Thanks. If you have not seen these videos, they well capture the atmosphere of the Hershey when it was necessary public transport. Hershey Interurban Cuba czcams.com/play/PLLtOIHp49XNCgsUqNLNk_05XKii6e6HDj.html
the 6 is a really odd route. in an ideal world there would be a tram route running the entire length of moreland rd/normanby ave to provide an east-west connector service, not just that little stub on the 6, and then maybe the 6 could instead turn east down moreland rd and run to reservoir station via high st. but I doubt an extension like that will happen any time soon
There are already buses running east-west, the most popular is probably Bell St. Even so, my observations are that mostly only a handful of people ride it so building a tram line is not worth the cost. Also these days they are most unwilling to build tram lines where traffic also runs along the tracks.
Great video! Combinos have my heart, the best tram class in Melbourne - it's just my opinion guys, I know it's very unpopular 😀 As I understand it, driver is not required to open the right-hand side mirror, but should make use of it whenever necessary, correct? It makes sense considering the tram has limited ability to make movements other than the ones the tracks allow, I guess this feature is valuable when shunting and doing stuff like that.
Not the best tram. This type was poorly designed and soon alter entering service had to undergo strengthening as the equipment in the roof was too heavy for the superstructure. The design over the bogies is poor as four seats are lost over each one due to springs intruding into the passenger compartment. (CAF is the same). The passenger view out the front is very limited. I don’t know about now, but when a friend was at Malvern he told me that the bogies were forever being changed as the gears kept wearing out fast. One good thing about them for me is that the camera mounted on the little driver’s window gives a great view out the front. I believe that a major reason for the right side mirror is for use at tram stops which are on the right hand side of the tram. There may not have been any of these when you were in Melbourne.
@@tressteleg1 Even with all their faults I also like the Combinos. I think they are the best looking tram in Melbourne and sound great running beside the cemetery.
@barryneilsen6007 Outside may look OK but the forward passenger view is by far the worst, besides the end seat which seems wide enough for just 1.7 adults.
@@tressteleg1 I remember a few stops on the right hand side back then, first one to come up in the mind is on Spencer St after crossing Flinders. I enjoyed the single seat beside the bogies, knowing nobody would sit beside me 😀But I understand all the criticism, let's see if these trams will stay for ~ 40 yrs (roughly the average for trams in Melb) or the government will get rid of them earlier.
@@luizaugustoramos2520 There are many more right side platforms these days, and you will see quite a few in tomorrow’s video. As for the lifespan of these trams, as there are limited low floor trams in Melbourne, they will have to keep them going for quite a long time yet.
@@tressteleg1 I meant some smart radio based transmitter or similar to allow cars to get out of the way of trams. Yes I know trams have turn indicators !!!
In some places trams already bring up a right turn arrow to get rid of cars which may be turning right in front of a tram, or bring up a 7 second T light but these happen ONLY when the lights were going to change anyway. Trams nowhere in Melbourne cause red lights to go green.
The green button is the same as putting the left indicator on your car. If you make the left turn without indicating and somebody runs into you, you’re in trouble.
Some older trams, like this Z3 class, have never been fitted with automated announcements. Some drivers announce more important places, and of course stops requested by passengers.
@Detrabot Yes it was. But I was in Melbourne recently and had to redo the run from University to Moreland and this in a Z3. I was confusing the two. Destination signs and other things are not working on a lot of trams these days so lack of announcements would be no surprise. Whether this is because of poor maintenance or lack of spare parts, I don’t know.
@@tressteleg1 Recently, I went on a route 48 service on a c class, but the destination board/ announcements weren’t working. Another driver waiting for a shift change had seen that the PID and software system hadn’t even been turned on at all… 😂
@Detrabot I was in Melbourne January/February and plenty of trams were running around with printed destination boards because the electronics weren’t working. I was told this was lack of spare parts which apparently can be quite true. Whether your tram was defective or not, unless the new driver turned them on and they worked, they were probably broken. I do know that Gold Coast and Sydney trams are having problems with getting spare parts. In those cases it is Alstom to blame.
I thinkyou will like the video I am preparing for next Friday or the week after. It will be titled something like “Which trams are the Slowest - Sydney or Melbourne?“
Not my hands, just the hands of whoever the driver was. Could be tatts, weird watch, jewellery. I like to keep drivers anonymous in case somebody thinks they did something wrong, even if they did not.
Best regards from Hershey Cuba train fan living in Miami!!
Thanks. If you have not seen these videos, they well capture the atmosphere of the Hershey when it was necessary public transport.
Hershey Interurban Cuba
czcams.com/play/PLLtOIHp49XNCgsUqNLNk_05XKii6e6HDj.html
Well done buddy you bring back memories of Melbourne. Thank you
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the 6 is a really odd route. in an ideal world there would be a tram route running the entire length of moreland rd/normanby ave to provide an east-west connector service, not just that little stub on the 6, and then maybe the 6 could instead turn east down moreland rd and run to reservoir station via high st. but I doubt an extension like that will happen any time soon
There are already buses running east-west, the most popular is probably Bell St. Even so, my observations are that mostly only a handful of people ride it so building a tram line is not worth the cost. Also these days they are most unwilling to build tram lines where traffic also runs along the tracks.
"Some motorists" want to avoid hitting all the cars parked along the street!
That is the intention of most drivers..
A fairly easy run. Thanks for posting.
Sunday afternoon, from memory.
Ah that would make a difference.@@tressteleg1
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Gresy video
Interesting ride. Thanks tressteleg1💚👍
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Great video! Combinos have my heart, the best tram class in Melbourne - it's just my opinion guys, I know it's very unpopular 😀
As I understand it, driver is not required to open the right-hand side mirror, but should make use of it whenever necessary, correct? It makes sense considering the tram has limited ability to make movements other than the ones the tracks allow, I guess this feature is valuable when shunting and doing stuff like that.
Not the best tram. This type was poorly designed and soon alter entering service had to undergo strengthening as the equipment in the roof was too heavy for the superstructure. The design over the bogies is poor as four seats are lost over each one due to springs intruding into the passenger compartment. (CAF is the same). The passenger view out the front is very limited. I don’t know about now, but when a friend was at Malvern he told me that the bogies were forever being changed as the gears kept wearing out fast. One good thing about them for me is that the camera mounted on the little driver’s window gives a great view out the front. I believe that a major reason for the right side mirror is for use at tram stops which are on the right hand side of the tram. There may not have been any of these when you were in Melbourne.
@@tressteleg1 Even with all their faults I also like the Combinos. I think they are the best looking tram in Melbourne and sound great running beside the cemetery.
@barryneilsen6007 Outside may look OK but the forward passenger view is by far the worst, besides the end seat which seems wide enough for just 1.7 adults.
@@tressteleg1 I remember a few stops on the right hand side back then, first one to come up in the mind is on Spencer St after crossing Flinders. I enjoyed the single seat beside the bogies, knowing nobody would sit beside me 😀But I understand all the criticism, let's see if these trams will stay for ~ 40 yrs (roughly the average for trams in Melb) or the government will get rid of them earlier.
@@luizaugustoramos2520 There are many more right side platforms these days, and you will see quite a few in tomorrow’s video. As for the lifespan of these trams, as there are limited low floor trams in Melbourne, they will have to keep them going for quite a long time yet.
How fast it can go? ... Im guessing like 80 km/h
In the past, downhill they went close to that but since around 1990 have, like all Melbourne trams, been governed to under 65 km/h.
Do trams/driver have ability to activate right hand turn signal for vehicles (eg, Moreland rd/Nicholson st)?. This reduces tram delays.
Of course they do! The first trams with flashing lights were the Z1 class in 1975.
@@tressteleg1 I meant some smart radio based transmitter or similar to allow cars to get out of the way of trams. Yes I know trams have turn indicators !!!
In some places trams already bring up a right turn arrow to get rid of cars which may be turning right in front of a tram, or bring up a 7 second T light but these happen ONLY when the lights were going to change anyway. Trams nowhere in Melbourne cause red lights to go green.
1:27 what if you don't press the green button??will it stop
The green button is the same as putting the left indicator on your car. If you make the left turn without indicating and somebody runs into you, you’re in trouble.
How come the announcements weren't working?
Some older trams, like this Z3 class, have never been fitted with automated announcements. Some drivers announce more important places, and of course stops requested by passengers.
@@tressteleg1wasn’t this video filmed on a combino?
@Detrabot Yes it was. But I was in Melbourne recently and had to redo the run from University to Moreland and this in a Z3. I was confusing the two.
Destination signs and other things are not working on a lot of trams these days so lack of announcements would be no surprise. Whether this is because of poor maintenance or lack of spare parts, I don’t know.
@@tressteleg1 Recently, I went on a route 48 service on a c class, but the destination board/ announcements weren’t working. Another driver waiting for a shift change had seen that the PID and software system hadn’t even been turned on at all… 😂
@Detrabot I was in Melbourne January/February and plenty of trams were running around with printed destination boards because the electronics weren’t working. I was told this was lack of spare parts which apparently can be quite true. Whether your tram was defective or not, unless the new driver turned them on and they worked, they were probably broken. I do know that Gold Coast and Sydney trams are having problems with getting spare parts. In those cases it is Alstom to blame.
Honestly tram traffic light priority is poor. To much time wasted just waiting for the lights such as at princes street and elgin street
I thinkyou will like the video I am preparing for next Friday or the week after. It will be titled something like “Which trams are the Slowest - Sydney or Melbourne?“
so you blacked out your hands when Paramedic passed. must have TATTS hey, nobody can ID you/ LOL
Not my hands, just the hands of whoever the driver was. Could be tatts, weird watch, jewellery. I like to keep drivers anonymous in case somebody thinks they did something wrong, even if they did not.
@tressteleg1 all good, was meant as tongue & cheek.
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