BY BLOOD - Two Brothers On A Wyoming Elk Hunt
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2022
- Growing up in the cornfields of Iowa hunting together, to now living in different states out west, Chris Neville and Josh reunite on a backcountry archery elk hunt in Wyoming. Watch as the two brothers go for broke, pushing each other’s limits.
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We were working the same bulls. That was us that you ran in to both days and chatted with when you were back at the truck on your last day. Was glad to meet you guys. Hope your next trip to Wyoming ends in a punched tag.
Haha that’s crazy, small world! Yeah it was good chatting with you guys! Who knows, maybe we’ll see you down the road again. Good luck this year!
@@chrisneville9251 good luck to you as well. Hope to cross paths again. Take care, Chris🤙🏼
It was actually me you ran into.
Where were you
Great hunt! One extremely important note on the etiquette side of elk hunting: After a solid shot like that For the sake of the sport and the elk, it is ethical to punch your tag....Especially after a solid shot like that. I have heard and I have personally came across several dead bull elk that were not harvest and just left to rot because the hunter could not find the bull, just like what we saw in the video.
Over here in my big hunting group/circle we have this happen almost every season...when this happens the shooter punches the tag.
As for GoHunt, being a big platform and a great organization, thousands of hunters look up to you guys for guidance In all different aspects of the hunting world. One of the biggest things that gets overlooked is the etiquette part of hunting.
I know it is a big disappointment to lose the tracks but we have to be ambassadors of the sport with such a huge influx of new hunters over the past 10 years and set a good example with our moral compass for the generations to come as well as the future bull elk we can hunt!👍🏽
You are so virtuous.
@@JAdame24 Not claiming to be that at all.
That was very well put and in a informative and constructive manner. I agree 100% I am an older man and did not really grow up in a hunting environment but that bit of hunting etiquette is something I do remember since I was a kid.
Well put Paul! He should have punched his tag... show some class please.
Apparently these two learned nothing from seeing the other dead bull. Perhaps if you had been taught hunting morals instead of self-taught you'd have a different outlook.
Don't get me wrong, it's cool you two taught yourselves, but know this isn't all about you, it is more about being ambassadors of the privilege especially when you post videos about it.
Absolutely not notching my tag in that situation. They exhausted every effort, as I would. You do you, but don't claim superiority.
There is something about running on fumes and hunting as hard as humanly possible that is satisfying. You guys left it all out there, and from were I sit you couldn’t have done anything better. Great show and I hope yall keep the great content coming. Thank yall.
Thanks for dropping a comment! Couldn't agree more, and we're stoked to hear you are enjoying the content.
I can relate to Josh very well in his situation. lows, highs and trying to recover the elk anyway possible. keep showing the hunt how it transpires, way better than hunting videos with all success. you frame hunting how it really is. it's hard, it tests your skills and in the end if all goes right success happens. great film, guys.
The moment captured of Josh at full draw while Chris was calling, the sun glaring through the trees while the snow melted and was dripping. Hearing the elk bugling, was probably one of the best captures in the elk hunting video realm I've seen. Thank you for sharing this experience and giving the reality of bow hunting elk!
That's awesome to hear, thanks for checking out the video!
That feeling when you can no longer track it and you have to give up is one of the worst feeling no matter what animal you're hunting. Good video showing the ups and downs.
It's a tough reality, there's no doubt about it.
Appreciate you checking out the video!
Watching this with my two little boys gave me chills, I hope this story is a reality for them one day. Awesome film GOHUNT does it again
That's awesome, thanks for watching!
I admire how hard you two worked at this hunt.
One important note for all hunters: some states require that once you draw blood on an animal that counts toward your tag/quota (whether you retrieve the animal or not). It's very important to know the rules where you are hunting.
Good video. Happy hunting. Keep looking up.
Which states?
Thank you for sharing you and your brothers Elk. There is nothing worst then to lose a animal hunting. It will beat you up every chance it gets. Thank you both for being truthful about your hunt, I know alot of people that wouldn't
God's Blessings to you both on your adventures
“God’s blessings”…..pfff, you’re living in a fantasy world. Probably around the same time that the guy shot the arrow in this film, someone else in the USA died from either being shot, from cancer, or from a drug overdose……but god’s blessing for these guys when they go out on their adventures!
Thank you for showing the not so great side of hunting. I believe it's very important to show for hunters and non hunter. Lots of struggle out there. Not all kill shots and high fives. Congrats on making memories guys!
Appreciate the support, glad you enjoyed the video!
Your results have become all to common on elk hunting videos. I had similar results and made the change to adult arrows (Ashby, Ranch Fairy arrows) and my results have improved dramatically. It’s been amazing to see an increase in harvest rates, and shorter blood trails. Good luck going forward.
I'm confused as to why the guy who shot and hit an elk is the one knocking an arrow everytime after that? Just curious
I live for that roller coaster that both of you went through.... My white tail hunting buddies always hate when I tell them about this one time out west this happened or that... They are the best white tail hunters I know but they don't want anything to do with the hard work that goes into the just the experience of it all...I started elk hunting in 2006 with a good friend and we pretty much just loaded the truck up and headed west to Colorado for a DIY elk hunt (before it was a thing) and it was the most amazing hunt for us to experience. We didn't even get our guns out of the cases and we could of headed home because of all the different wildlife that we encountered before our hunt started, and that's what hooked us on the opportunities and the unknown of hunting the western front. Congrats on getting on them elk and for not giving up, the challenges of an archer are unknown until they happen.
My three brothers and I had a very similar bow hunt in Wyoming last year. I basically relived our hunt as I watched yours. Didn't bring any meat home but had an incredible learning adventure with my brothers with all the highs, lows, blisters, and exhaustion that you guys had. Thanks for the video! Motivation for next time🙂
Chris and Josh it's great to see brothers growing up hunting and sharing the highs and the lows. I feel bad for Josh but things happen. You grow from your mistakes and it's a blessing to have a brother with you. People will always hold on to pain and disappointment. But you have your brother with and your Elk hunting in God's Great Outdoors you can hear Elk and see them. I Think you are Blessed Amen
Well done y’all. Thank you for sharing.
Appreciate it and thanks for watching!
Great hunt Boys. Thanks for keeping it real, and bringing us along.
Heck yeah, glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video guys! I was rooting you both. Reminds me of hunting with my brother. Very relatable! Awesome work.
Was a great video!! Was a great way to show the real ups and downs of bow hunting. Btw Remi your the man! I tell my daughter all the time I drop her at school you know this is where Remi went to high school lol. We watch your hunts together all the time. GoHUNT guys and solo hunter boys thanks for taking us along for the hunts!!
Scam!!!
Man, it seems 75% of the archery elk videos I watch someone shoots an elk and can't find it. I was mentioning this to the wife when watched elk 101 series. I never thought archers which I am one did this must damage. One thing CZcams etc has done has shined a light on just how much this happens. I enjoyed the video and not judging I'm just much more aware this happens way more than I thought and the more exposure to this" that's bow hunting" mindset concerns me for the future of elk hunting. Thanks for sharing this video it hit home as I miss hunting with my brother who passed away few years ago and we too found hunting together without growing up in hunting family.
Winter and predation are still king at killing elk. Always have been, always will.
It's not just archery.... Try looking at the hunters that shoot an animal 600+ yards with a 6.5 creedmore and then they can't find it, let a lone the tree or bush it was standing next to. It's all about knowing the limits of a shot opportunity and placement of proper equipment. But even then the unknown happens a small twig can cause the craziest of things that affect a bullet or arrow, or punching the trigger because your nerves are going crazy... The list goes on. But we all take it and bear that load because if you hunt long enough it will happen more than once as much as we hate that feeling, all we can do is do our part to keep that hit and not found number to a minimum.
@@briansteele1378 I agree which is why this additional shooting and not finding just adds additional deaths to the herds. Add in poaching etc and hunting becomes more threatened.
@@normankaster917 oh I'm sure this is the case I was just referencing what I watch which is archery stuff. I think we have to be careful the more we show this stuff on video and just call it part of hunting. This will be what anti hunters use when they come after us again and again. If shooting and not recovering just becomes part of what we call hunting then I believe it could backfire. I also want to say these are just my observations and beliefs. I'm not saying I'm right or judging others just throwing them out there for thought. I did enjoy the video and really like Go hunt.
@@davidgreer9567 I totally agree. A hunters job is to get as close as possible. My heart wouldn’t even be beating with excitement at extended distances.
Epic boys. Love the determination.
Good editing to show elk hunting difficulties and challenges. Way to push through guys!
I hunt with my brother every year… nothing better !!! 🏹🏹🏹
bowhunting is about the pursuit and you guys got after it and it showed...great film
Appreciate you taking the time to check it out!
love the branding rework for Gohunt, keep up the good work fellas, you all are setting the standard.
Much appreciated!
I swear I’ve used those same broadheads before on a deer (looked like rocket broadheads) and I didn’t recover the buck. It was the best shot I’d ever taken with a bow and got zero blood on a full pass-through shot. My only guess is all the blades broke upon impact. Made the switch to iron will single bevels this year and have 9 days in MT to get a bull killed. Great video! Keep it up!
You're going to love the IW SB's. I got two pass throughs on my bull last year with the 125s. First shot 27yds quartering to. Entry front shoulder and exited in front of opposite rear ham. Bull didnt even know he was shot, never found the arrow. And then 52yds in his bed dying. Hit him square in the center of his shoulder and still passed all the way through. Blows my mind that guys like these two still make the conscience decision to bow hunt elk with mechanicals. Incredible.
@@davidschmidt8075 yep I was scratching my head when I seen mechanicals too...
@@davidschmidt8075 Yup, same exact thing I thought myself. That was 100% broadhead failure. See how it was either total broken off or unscrewed from the outsert on the arrow. Even slightly quartering away, shot behind the shoulder, my guess is the broadhead blades hit a rib at an angle and followed the outside of the ribs, never entering the cavity. That didn't look like lung blood, just heavy muscle blood. If that bull is/was harvested later they'll find it lodged in there somewhere cause that bull lived. I've shot plenty of bulls with fixed blades, but that sound a mechanical broadhead hitting is much different, alot of energy being lost.
I’m sure not all mechanicals perform like they should and failures happen but if you execute a broadside shot and know you have more room behind the shoulder they can be very devastating. I understand wanting the confidence to penetrate just about anything but even fixed will fail depending on angle and the part of the shoulder. I have fixed and mechanical and my mechanical last year did the job very well on a “par” shot (my fault). Can’t help but think the cutting diameter helped me out. I know guys that get it done year after year on elk with mechanicals. Pass throughs and all. To each their own. I put blame on nothing but myself first. Maybe nerves caused a pulled shot or the angle wasn’t a good enough one. Maybe tried tucking it too much when there is plenty of room behind it to be lethal. Shouldn’t be trying to shoot through shoulders
Good job on making the change. I also use Iron Will and I've never lost an animal since. They absolutely destroy them on impact and die very quickly. Even when the shot is not perfect.
Im glad you have a brother you talk too and hunt with. Have not talked to my brother in 3 years and we live 2 miles apart.
Life is too short for regret. Mend the relationship.
Loved By blood. Awesome hunt, lots of action, it sucked you couldn’t find the bull but that’s ok you two worked your butts off.. y’all have a special bond. super cool
Stoked to hear you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
All that Kuiu gear looks sweet!
Awesome to be able to share the time with family . Great work with the camera.
Thank you, Anthony! We appreciate you watching.
Love to see it boys keep it up!
Heck yeah, thanks for checking out the video!
Great video! Let’s get some more i can’t stop watching these!!!
Right on, glad you're enjoying them!
@@GOHUNT What camera was used in the making of this film?
Good video....and killer area with lots of elk! For all the variables in archery hunting...I refuse to let my broadheads be one of them...hope you guys make the change.
If u punch a elk and get blood you punch your tag:) it's the right thing to do in my book.best of luck this year
I use an electric bear fence around our basecamp and pack a light one to field process.
Im glad yall put so much time in looking for that animal. Seems like guy's dont look as long and hard as they should. I get only having a small amount of time off work and all, but we owe it to the animal to look hard.
Great film. Definitely worth the watch!
Great video! Archery elk is tough, but you guys put in the effort! Didn't kill but I would consider it a success.
Absolutely, there's always something to take away from any hunt. Appreciate you checking out the video!
Great video and story guys! Wish you had better luck, but that is hunting.
Appreciate you checking out the video!
Never leave elk to find elk....I am guilty of breaking that rule many times
After I saw the pic of the broadhead you were using--it told me all I need to know. I don’t care what the rules in each state say--a fixed 3 or 4 blade broadhead will always outperform expandable ones.
This was awesome fellas.
Love to hear that! Thanks for watching, Sam.
that trailhead you were at is always packed with horses. Pretty good area but the backcountry traffic is absolutely insane in there.
Great hunt! Lots of action
You got that right! Thanks for checking it out.
Pro move at the end with the beers in the truck.
Pro move is right, haha! Thanks for watching!
Great video, guys!
Thanks so much!
Nice video, not sure if i would have kept hunting after wounding one. I wonder if the result would have been different with a good fixed blade broadhead.
Beautiful video. Thats why I shoot fixed blade though.
maaaate that first shot should’ve never been shot! love the video but just by looking at that shot nothing was right about it? better luck next time, this one was a learning curve!
Oh man, I feel your pain. I missed a Colorado bull 3 times with a rifle last October. At least it is on camera, so I can relive it over and over. I still can't figure out how it happened, lol. Better luck next time.
Great vid! 🏆👊🤓
Appreciate it!
Enjoyed the cross country hunting 😎 thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, we appreciate you watching!
Shoot heavy arrows and single bevel broad heads. I shoot 60 lbs and my arrows are 690 grains and I shoot a 250 grain cutthroat broadhead single bevel, they caused nothing but devastation.
I only shoot 50 lbs and my fixed blade broadheads are 100 grain and the elk get destroyed.
Nothing like hunting with a brother
Hard to beat that's for sure!
Awesome!
Thanx
What's the better of the two tents I'm really curious about the kuiu
The video has a bit of everything. The highs and lows and the gruelling work required to chase elk. You boys were too tired to appreciate how much action you had but I bet you do now that it’s behind you.
Bowhunting is hard and if it was easy we wouldn’t love it as much.
Agreed! Thanks for giving the video a watch.
Man you guys were on alot of elk, seems like a lot of hang ups, or maybe just public land skiddish elk...fun but appeared super frustrating
This is one of my favorite videos! Way to grind it out!
Pumped to hear that and appreciate you checking it out!
How can I get one of Neville’s hats? Want that circle gohunt leather patch but don’t see it on the go hunt store.
What kuiu down jacket was that and how did it perform?
I'd love to hear your thoughts and compassion between the stone glacier ult and the kuiu summit star tents
The smaller kuiu is really light and stays pretty warm during nights (did great for spring turkey in Colorado which has really cold nights and it snowed twice). The other one is nice too but the poles can be super hard to get in at times and my cousin hates his but I like them both. If you're hiking many miles I'd say to keep it as light as possible.
Which kuiu jacket was it?
What made you decide to not punch the tag without knowing the bull was dead or not?
What kuiu puffy was that? How did it perform?
You guys or anyone you know ever follow an elk call and it happens to be another group? I would love to see some of those videos. A behind the scenes kinda videos.
It happened in this video, another hunter bugled these guys in
@@torowy I must have missed that part, my work gets in the way sometimes, lol. I must re-watch the video.
Any more thoughts on what might’ve happened with Josh’s shot on the bull? I know you mentioned it was a little forward, could this mean it hit scapula and didn’t penetrate very far then the arrow fell out?
So I’ve done a lot of thinking about this. Here all the things to consider. 1. The bull was quartering away. 2. It was an uphill shot, so the angle of the arrow was going up. 3. The shot placement was tight to the shoulder, which is a little bit far forward especially on a quartering away shot.
With all that information gathered and what we found for blood, I believe the arrow went above the front of the lungs (due to the forward shot placement and upward angle of the arrow) and entered the pocket behind the shoulder and just below the spine. It’s what some consider “no man’s land” because there’s no vitals to be hit there.
As many know, on quartering away animals the farther forward the shot placement the better chance of missing vitals. Plus you have to add in the upward angle of the arrow which essentially is going away from the vitals too, making me believe it was not a fatal shot.
@@chrisneville9251 that’s a tough situation and I think you guys put in a great effort looking for the bull. What was up with the bull you found? Someone cut off the front shoulder?
So... seeing as no-one else appears willing to address the elephant in the woods. Does one's tag allow one to shoot arrows into elk until one is able to recover an animal or does the tag allow one animal to be shot whether it is recovered or not?
Hey David, thanks for reaching out and genuinely we do appreciate the feedback. These situations are unfortunately the reality of hunting and we believe they should be discussed with the potential to learn and grow, rather than avoiding them all together.
Legally a hunter is only required to notch their tag when they have successfully killed and have found the animal. If the animal is not found, as was the case here, the decision to keep hunting is personal, based on the assessment of the situation and the hunters own personal choice. From all the evidence that Chris and Josh gathered from their three days of searching for that bull, they believed the hit was not fatal and the bull was still alive. Therefore they continued to hunt based on their assessment. In the end, it is ultimately up to the hunter to make the decision to continue to hunt or not.
@@GOHUNT thanks for the explanation.
Way to stick with it fellas, no bears?
If you listen to the shot the sound of it you hear it crack You know it aint that shoulder
Here in AK you draw blood you punch your tag
Is that not the case in Wyoming?
Anyone now what gear they use?
Wow. Interesting hunt to say the least. What was the deal with the dead elk? Someone took the back straps…front quarters…left the rest? Strange.
The bull was actually fully processed. All quarters, backstraps, and tenderloins. Just the antlers were left there. My guess is since it was a gut shot, they probably didn’t find it right away so getting all the meat off quickly was priority to keep from spoiling. Then they probably come back later to get the head.
Kinda looked like the elk he shot.. Someone else grabbed the meat before it was too late ?!?
where in Wyoming are they hunting? Is it the Wyoming Range or The Wind River Range?
Never leave elk to find elk
So the bull that they found at 14:10 wasn't theirs? just one poached by someone else
That was not their bull.
What broad head were you using?
They look like the grim reapers pro series
So many of these videos end up with a lost elk during archery season it's really heartbreaking that so many elk get shot and are not recovered. I truly believe if you draw blood on an elk you tag out whether you retrieve that animal or not if you're going to archery hunt you need to practice for a year before you shoot at an animal. These videos really makes archery hunters look bad.
So did the broadhead snap off inside the elk?
Yeah the broadhead broke off in the bull.
@@chrisneville9251 Awesome hunt guys, and I'm sorry that you didn't kill an elk. I do have a question that a few others have stated. Is there a reason why you used mechanicals for elk instead of a good fixed blade broadhead? Was it because they are easier to tune?
GoHunt we need some clarification as to the rules and regulations of wounding an animal, never finding it, and actively hunting another bull. Can you address this in an article with rules and regs concerning this for each western state? I think this might clear up some questions people have here in the comments. Thanks.
Hey Josh, thanks for reaching out and genuinely we do appreciate the feedback. We knew that when we released this film there likely would be some discontent and resulting discussion. Truthfully, we welcome both. These situations are unfortunately the reality of hunting and we believe they should be discussed with the potential to learn and grow, rather than avoiding them all together.
Legally a hunter is only required to notch their tag when they have successfully killed and have found the animal. If the animal is not found, as was the case here, the decision to keep hunting is personal based on the assessment of the situation and the hunters own personal choice.
@@GOHUNT Thank you for clarifying and it is good to see this kind of instance represented. Often we see hunters on video hang up their hat for the season rather than continue on with their hunt. There were a few other people with this question and it may be good to address this situation with an article or open discussion for guys who haven't hunted the West yet. I hope the other guys see this thread. I know you wouldn't have released this video if it was unlawful and I know having watched these brothers before they are good guys and keep things professional. One of the best attributes about you all that I like is you always follow up with comments, therefore, continue to provide the great customer service. This was certainly a hard situation and I am sure the thought still haunts hunters who have gone through this kind of experience.
You guys did not explain the bull that you found very well. Was it a different bull? It didn't look all that different.
Yeah it was a different bull. The bull that Josh shot at was a six point on both sides. You can see it at the 13:41 mark. Whereas the dead bull we found was a 5 point on both sides.
@@chrisneville9251 thanks for the clarification
Man thus had to be a hard video to make. Keep it real.
💯 but always worth it.
Don't use expandable broadhead to take elk, you'll only piss 😤 them off.
I am surprised Josh kept hunting after he clearly shot a bull. Ethics, surprising how many hunters don't have them.
Elk are tough animals. If you didn’t find him then he is most likely still alive. Especially a shoulder hit.
@@sebastianstewart6218 Do you have information/data to back up your opinion? I agree elk are tough but I think it is most likely it died a slow painful death. Not many things can live after an arrow went through them.
@@joshcc1974 the arrow didn't go through him. Go back and rewatch. I've had rifle bullets not penetrate a shoulder blade. Elk have been harvested years later with broadheads still in them from a previous hunter. The likelihood that the elk survived is probably pretty good. I would have continued to hunt the same area for that reason but that's me. If it's legal to still pursue other elk after an extensive search and reasonable deduction that the elk is not dead then why not? At the end of the day the odds are still extremely stacked against him shooting another one with his bow, statistically speaking. Let alone notching both of their tags but in the end they still walked away loinless so your point is moot anyway. That's just my 2¢
Hunt without the bugle
"We've seen a lot of elk asses."
Seems funny that go hunt would put out a film with inexperienced elk hunters.
Go back where you seen the blood and slowly track
Sounds shot a tree!
That's what I first thought too
Awesome vid man ! Would love if you could check out some of my no scope action. 😃 Keep up the hunts !
Next time you'll remember to take your pack off before shooting...
Such a typical archery elk hunt... Prepare, travel, work your ass off, get that one opportunity and for whatever reason.... panic, rushing, nerves you don't make the perfect shot. Wounded bull and tired dejected hunters in the end.
Shouldn’t the tag be ripped up if blood was drawn? I know you looked hard but more than likely, that elk is dead. I feel that this is the moral thing to do.
No man. They need more content for more clicks. 😂
Sorry but I do not know the rules and do not know how many tags each have but if Josh knows he wounded an elk early in the video...... then why is he still actively hunting? I would think his tag is gone because has not confirmed his elk hit was not a kill.
Hey Alex, thanks for reaching out and genuinely we do appreciate the feedback. We knew that when we released this film there likely would be some discontent and resulting discussion. Truthfully, we welcome both. These situations are unfortunately the reality of hunting and we believe they should be discussed with the potential to learn and grow, rather than avoiding them all together.
Legally a hunter is only required to notch their tag when they have successfully killed and have found the animal. If the animal is not found, as was the case here, the decision to keep hunting is personal based on the assessment of the situation and the hunters own personal choice. From all the evidence that Chris and Josh gathered from their three days of searching for that bull, they believed the hit was not fatal and therefore continued to hunt based on their assessment of the situation.
@@GOHUNT Thanks for the reply and clarification. I do not know the rules so thought I would ask. No worries here. :)
This is why I don't like archery for elk. Happens too often in my opinion.
Just listened to the big hunt guys podcast and all I have to say is I'm leaving a hater comment.
Praise Jesus
That comment was for a different video lol. It sure didn't go with the whole mood of this hunt lol. Sorry boys...next time!
Since when did it become ok to put a fatal shot on an elk and not punch your tag even though you couldn’t find it? Asking for a dude on CZcams.
So you wounded an elk, didn’t retrieve it, and kept hunting for another? Why didn’t you just punch your tag and call it a lose instead of trying to kill two? Kind of unethical.