Sealed subwoofer box design for home theater
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- čas přidán 29. 12. 2020
- In this video I'm going to show you how to design a sealed subwoofer box using an Excel spreadsheet. It's super easy. Also, we are going to use that information and build an active subwoofer using Dayton Audio parts.
The excel spreadsheet and the project plans can be found here : audiojudgement.com/how-to-des...
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Love your speaker-channel for it's straightforwardness and the high density of howto and needtoknow information.
Keep it up. All the Best for 2023.
In my experience of using plate amplifiers. Some leak & some don't and for that I don't trust any of them! So I do exactly what Dayton Audio said. Completely separate the subwoofer from the plate amp. When I make these small enclosures I'm usually using. A subwoofer & 2 passive radiators & it has to be air tight for proper tuning. So avoid the folly & just believe that they all leak. Then design around that information & the success rate will increase. 👍🏾
Great video! If anything, this is a problem to be aware of. I really learn a lot from all your effort and hard work. 👍
I haven't seen anyone put 1 or 2 PR in these. I'm sure its been done somewhere. I
your videos are very good. Keep it up man. It is REALLY appreciated since you make all these complicated parameters easy to understand.
Another great project, this is my fav channel for DIY speaker building. I am looking forward to more projects. Thanks for the efforts.
Thank you Marius for this video. Big fan of yours. Happy Holidays....!
salute your assessment about home subwoofer, before I didn't see like this comprehensive information. that's why I subscribe your channel.
Hi! thanks for you videos. they are really well made and clear. Can you make a video on how to ''design'' bracing inside an enclosure. Like how much is enough, or not enough or too much. what are the rule and etc.. thanks!
The back of the amplifier is removable by unscrewing the screws on outside of amp. It’s sealed with a felt gasket like material. Check to see if screws are tight or try adding a better gasket.
Put a piece of blue painters tape over the power and phase switches, this worked for me with that plate amp (which is WELL known to leak in that spot).
Hey all your videos are just wonderful !!!! Can you do one on H frame subwoofer please ?? For example, with a 15" or 18" high QTS driver, how to determine optimum size of h frame, optimum front and rear cavity depth, and some basic design principles will be great !!! Your simple explanation makes it even more wonderful for learning
Sir you've just had yourself another subscriber! Quality content! Can you please make a video on T/S measurements for compression drivers? I wanna make some midrange horns using hornresp, but I couldn't find any proper measurement method for CD's. Very appreciated.
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What i always do to seal up leaks is put tape or little balls of paper towels. In this case id put tape on the exterior of the phase switch. Its no big deal for me at least maybe because im ghetto 😂
Hello Sir. I tried to measure the ts paras as you explained. Problem is , I think Iam doing everything right, but during caliberation, the clipping error is showing up every time. Altering the input levels do no change. Could it be sound card issue, as mine is a cheaper chinese thing. Could not understand what the problem is.
hei.. felicitari pentru toata munca depusa si mare multumita pentru infirmatii!
te-ai gandit sa construiesti un sistem surround, poate atmos?
un 2021 plin de succes!
It would be great if you could make an index of all the titles on your excel sheet. I m not understanding what Vb, Ql, Fb etc. mean. Thanks
First off, great video, this is super helpful! So I've got my driver and amp plate picked out and am now in the design process for the box, and one thing I'd really like to do instead of painting or veneering my box is do an epoxy resin pour design on the outside. I've watched some videos of people making countertops out of MDF then doing epoxy pours to mimic a marble finish and it comes out looking pretty incredible; I think that would look awesome as a speaker box design. The thing with epoxy is that it's much thicker, heavier, and denser than regular paint or veneer and I was wondering what effect that may have on the sound of the box? I'm guessing if dampening material mimics a larger box then so would an epoxy coat around the outside since it would be harder for sound to escape the box with that extra layer. Was wondering if you have any thoughts on what effects that may have or how I may need to adjust the design of the box to account for the extra thickness/density of the box? Keep up the great videos, subscribed and waiting for more!
Btw going with a very similar driver, Dayton Audio RSS265HF-4 10" Reference HF. Slightly different amp as I'd like to be able to access a little more of the driver's capabilities without shelling out for Dayton's 500w; getting the Bash 300S Digital.
The layer of epoxy on the outside will do nothing for the internal volume. Placing dampening material inside the box, increases the perceived volume because the sound waves inside will behave differently. But dampening material has low density (if you squeeze it, you reduce it to something that barely occupies space), the physical internal volume is almost the same. So, for example if you put something solid inside, you decrease the internal volume. So, if you put epoxy on the exterior, you might increase the rigidity if the box and might not need bracing, but the internal volume (either physical or perceived) is the same.
@@AudioJudgement thanks, good to know. Glad I won't have to make any adjustments to the volume
Can someone help me in idea l box dimensions for a sealed Box for Peerless STW 350
Also anyone can give me cad file to give my CNc fellow with brasing
I read some theory that sealed enclosures should have a small leak so internal and external pressures can equalise over time.
I've never heard of such things. Even if you make a perfectly air tight sealed box, the speaker itself has some amount of leakage (very low), but in time, I'm sure it solves the pressure equalization you mention. Obvious air leaks, like in this video, are bad because they are noisy.
Wow..you put a lot of effort into that box just to find out the amplifier is a blow through design! What a bummer! Great video though. Really enjoy your channel.
Can you use the bass boost to improve the F3?
Yes you can, but that might introduce distortion.
Hi do you think that you could make some bookshelf speaker Whith about 100wrms/speaker and a studio quality With a maximal flat response also in low frequency
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Have you had any problem with the amp overheating being enclosed like that? Great video and spreadsheet - thanks
The amp does have the radiator fins to the exterior. So, there should be no problem with overheating.
@@AudioJudgement I guess I missed the point -I thought you were enclosing the entire amp including the heat sink
@@BillWrightOttawa No, the amp is in the same position. Just placing an additional panel inside the box to separate the chamber of the woofer from the chamber of the amp.
Hello Sir
Can i 71 hz fs subwoofer use with 60 hz tunned enclosure
Does it performs better
It depends. It can be better, yes. But a speaker with Fs of 71 Hz doesn't sound like a subwoofer to me.
@@AudioJudgement thank you sir
Hello Sir,
You showed in the video that by putting Qtc=0.707 we will get maximum flat response in a sealed box.
How to get maximum flat response in a ported box?
Can we apply the Qtc rule here?
Yes, there are certain alignments for bass reflex boxes as well, one of which is the Butterworth response which has the maximally flat curve. Maybe for another video
super video. meriti mai multa apreciere pe platforma asta de kko. app de unde ai luat furnirul? online sau la vre-un magazin?
L-am luat de pe audio alchemy. Le dai mail ca nu au magazin online implementat.
Felicitari pentru canal si site. Sunt pasionat de diy audio si am descoperit de curand canalul tau si siteul pe care l-am lecturat cu placere.
Era interesant sa arati si niste masuratori ale raspunsului produsului final, anechoic si in camera, chiar si cu problema scurgerii de aer.
Poti sa imi spui de unde ai luat furnirul si ce esenta este? Multumesc.
Salutare! Furnirul l-am luat de pe Audio Alchemy acum ceva timp. E un site romanesc care arata cam invechit dar e de incredere. Se poate comanda pe mail. Furnirul este de palisandru si este cam scump. Am luat o data mai mult pentru niste boxe de podea si mi-a mai ramas. Este scump pentru ca este printe putinele esente care vine in latimi mari. Altfel, daca furnirul nu este cel putin la fel de lat ca panoul, trebuie imbinate mai multe bucati una langa alta. Sigur nu ma pricep sa fac asta si am preferat sa iau un furnir care sa necesite o singura bucata pentru fiecare parte a boxei. Pentru un subwoofer ca acesta, care nu e prea mare sigur gasesti si alte esente care sa fie la preturi decente si sa arate si bine.
@@AudioJudgement Multumesc frumos, nu stiam ca au si furnir, am luat niste difuzoare de la ei mai demult.
Hello Sir
Can we use two different subwoofer one is tunned with 60hz and another one is tunned at 70 hz
Does it gives better in one room
If you have 2 subwoofers you would use identical ones. One for left channel and one for right channel.
@@AudioJudgement sir but i have only one channel for subwoofer
@@AudioJudgement if subwoofer fs is 71 and another one is 61fs
And I want to use different enclosure
And can i both enclosure tunned with 60 hz
Please help me sir
Hello Sir. Good Evening. Sir, I want to ask that, does a Subwoofer box helps to increase the Bass output what the driver produces, like if wattage of driver is 30W, then does box makes it 40 or 50 ?
Different boxes may increase the acoustical output, but the electrical power handling will remain the same (with a few niche exceptions).
Hi Sir. I have seen in some music systems that the port and subwoofer are positioned at right angle faces. Does this make any difference ? I mean the faces on which port and the sub are same or different ?
@@swarajbiswas3056 That kind of decision is made usually to be space efficient. Probably there isn't any room on the front baffle for both the speaker and port. Also the port might be too long to be placed on the back panel etc
Bass output is not measured in watts, its measured in decibels. Input power is measured in watts. If we measured output power in watts the numbers would be very small - for 40 watts of input you get about 0.4 watts of output. But also, the ear doesn't hear sound energy linearly, so we need a logarithmic metric to measure the output. Hence we use decibels.
The efficiency of the system is what you want to look at. Typically 90 decibels for 1 watt at 1 metre.
Yes, generally ported speakers are more efficient than sealed boxes in the bass frequencies - by about 3dB.
@@FabianEason Lots of thanks Sir, for this precious knowledge. 🤝🤝
Learn everything about the products you intend to use prior to starting your project....
asking you to put the amp in another box ... Priceless 😂😂😂
It's very important to share your problems so we can avoid them.
Thank you.
Nothing worse than a leaky box.