A lot of figures in there. I'm also glad they went for the allies sprue with the Celtiberians and Italic hoplites. A lot of manufacturers neglect those. The notes saying who packed the box were a pleasant surprise the first time I ordered from Warlord, also a complementary sprue thrown in never hurts. Not all of their miniatures or the price points are the best in my opinion, but certainly great value for the plastic sprues they do for Epic. It will be interesting to see if other manufacturers follow suit. The Wargames Atlantic samurai 10mm sprues might be a sign of things to come.
I never determine a box sets usefulness and value solely by cost and number of models. I think if you can actually play a real normal sized game with the contents of a box set, then the hobby value increases. Not all companies add a complete game in their sets. I actually recommend to some people in the past not to buy certain starter sets when beginning a new game from certain companies because they don't have what you need to play a complete game. For this set I think people should save and invest in it. You won't get this kind of cost and play value in the future. :)
That is a lot of figures. As for the cost - that is down to the individual imo. If you want to buy "Hannibal" and can afford to, then go ahead and enjoy building, painting and gaming with the figures.
Good honest appraisal, Dom. To address the point that everyone is talking about... £240...anyone who is complaining about that, head to your 'pile of shame' add up how much it cost you, if you need to, add in all the miniatures you own that haven't seen a table for over a year...got to £240 yet? For stuff you haven't even painted or don't use you may well have a lot more money spent than this box. I'm sorry, but people who buy thirty, forty, fifty quids worth of minis just to add them to a large queue of unpainted figures have no grounds to complain about the cost of this. If you, like me, are gaming on a budget, you can, if you want to get into the Second Punic War, stop buying stuff and save up for it. While you are doing that, go scratchbuilding terrain for the 3000 new minis you'll be fielding soon. You can put together good quality terrain pieces out of rubbish and stuff you can forage for on building sites, amongst trees, at carpet shops...it's amazing what people throw away. So no bloody excuses! Sorry, this has turned into a mini rant, but some people piss me off.
Warlord has put together an amazing box full of stuff here. The price seems fair for what is included, and seems a far better deal than many of GW’s current offerings.
Superb. I got the Hannibal Carthaginian set without the Romans. Bought two small boxes of Romans and the variety in the sets allows me to build two forces. Bought a few more Celt sprues off eBay and making a decent Gaul force and may add to it down the line.
£ 240 sounds a lot but you get a lot for your buck thanks for showing what's inside so people can decide if they want to buy or not......Maybe you can catch a deal on e bay in the future.
Seems great value to me. I was asked at the club if I was going to added it to my games. I will, but think it will be next year as I have Epic ACW and thanks to Stu the Epic Pike and Shotte to paint up first. Plus attacking my 15mm WW2 stash over the next few months :)
This box is worth every penny or eurocent in my case and they shipped it free to continental Europe in my case Germany. I opened it and closed it immediately cause the shock…
Your right mate it is great value. Totally agree with you about the rule book but theyre not the only ones providing just 1 book. Im not a nay sayer with regards to Warlord but i do worry about the cost of their metals and the affect that is gaving on the industry as a whole. Also purchasing mini ranges and then re packing them with fewer models at a higher cost is just a con. At least Wargames Factory costed their plastics at the right value. That said Warlords own plastics are very good in both sculpting and value.
@BootsontheTable this is very true mate something to do with supply from indonesia. However, compare Warlords £17 for 8 minis to Perry £9 for 6 minis, and that doesn't make sense to me even with the increase in metal prices. At one time, Wagames Foundry seemed to set the price within the industry with packs from £12 to £16 pounds for 6 to 8 minis, which I thought were expensive but now seem a more reasonable price. I think the prices for plastics are reasonable but are creeping up and generally good products, and I am happy to buy them. The metals are nice, but I think they are becoming overpriced. Yes, everything is going up sadly, but I'm not sure their price for metals reflect the market, which seems strange. If i can get them 3rd party, then I'll happily buy them but not direct from Warlord. Their army sets are good value, and the Hannibal stuff you have reviewed is by far the best epic product so far. So, like I say, I'm not really a nay sayer, and I don't really compare them to GW, although there are some similarities. My concern is what might their business model mean for historical wargaming in the future, and if the industry follows their lead, are we going to lose the choice we currently have, and is it going to mean that as prices go up more and more people will squeezed out of the hobby. I think overall Warlords approach has been a good thing for the hobby it could have unfortunate consequences.
Great unboxing all I can say is wow that a lot there I don't think it's a lot of money for what you get all things connected as most stuff costs more now days and it's should not take you long to do 😂😂😂
Speaking of compatible figs, in the rule book I noticed a photo of a command tent and table with commanders. I dont know where thats from but would be a good buy.
Roughly 8p a miniature. Not bad. My problem is that a box like this can be overwhelming. I always wonder how many people actually finish painting these boxes
thanks Dom, hope you are feeling better soon. I thought you did well to make it through the pcp yesterday. By the way is your anti Roman sentiment based on having read somewhere that they had unattractive hands?
Nice - my box is turning up tomorrow and I'm really excited to get going - I've already painted up a few sprues courtesy of the July WI giveaway and although quite a daunting task, I am looking forward to batch painting my way through the box. My aim is to get enough painted to play out some small scale games and build from there. Very interested in the scale comparison stuff - I think Magister Militum may be a good fit but would be great if you could confirm - the news that Cromarty Forge are going to do 13.5mm is very welcome as their figures are amazing! Oh, and get well soon!
good luck Kevin, its a big arsed box! I havent tried MM ancients to compare but their Napoleonics and Pike & Shotte seem to so I expect they would here too. I am interested in trying Irregular and Museum miniatures too for scale
I do not see what all the fuss is about price is reasonable for what you get a great way for people to get into the hobby with everything you need to start not to hard to paint nuff said not my cup of tea but more power to everyone who wants it have fun play toy soldiers thats my two penn'orth worth
great review, loved the way you exposed the facts here, one little thing, for the sake of my ears: lower the volume of the INTRO for my soul left my body the first 15 seconds
Hi Dom this is really annoying amazing box of figures and stuff. Yes we all know that gaming is getting more and more expensive but so is every other hobby out there, as you say you get what you pay for and to be honest this box is worth the outlay as you not only get 1 full army but 2 full armies so it's worth the investment, not sure if I will invest at the moment but maybe in the future. Thanks for showing us what you get thanks mate. Take care Terry
@@BootsontheTable yes I did get a cracking deal. I am both excited and a little nervous about starting them. I have painted flames of war 15mm before but these lines are a whole new experience.
I thinks it’s great value, but maybe too many models. I can’t see myself needing to add to my collection (apart from any future artillery pieces) ever again. If there were a smaller starter box, say just 2 small armies, I would have gotten that instead. I am truly daunted by the sheer size of this thing. I am currently just painting two 350pt armies so I can start playing, and paint up division by division from there. I’m even considering turning some of the allied models into wounded markers instead, I will need a bigger home to play a battle with everything in this box.
yeah its a little daunting I wont deny. Of course you can just get individual divisions - not as good value if building a larger army but can allow you to build more modestly
Theres smaller army and division boxes too so you can buy in at the level you want. Plus can go in with a friend too if it helps. They paint up pretty quick if you use various tricks
A lot of figures in there. I'm also glad they went for the allies sprue with the Celtiberians and Italic hoplites. A lot of manufacturers neglect those.
The notes saying who packed the box were a pleasant surprise the first time I ordered from Warlord, also a complementary sprue thrown in never hurts. Not all of their miniatures or the price points are the best in my opinion, but certainly great value for the plastic sprues they do for Epic.
It will be interesting to see if other manufacturers follow suit. The Wargames Atlantic samurai 10mm sprues might be a sign of things to come.
yeah i love the minor nations too. Very nice
That's one huge box! Loved the casualty markers.
yeah thats a nice touch
I never determine a box sets usefulness and value solely by cost and number of models. I think if you can actually play a real normal sized game with the contents of a box set, then the hobby value increases. Not all companies add a complete game in their sets. I actually recommend to some people in the past not to buy certain starter sets when beginning a new game from certain companies because they don't have what you need to play a complete game. For this set I think people should save and invest in it. You won't get this kind of cost and play value in the future. :)
well said mate
That is a lot of figures. As for the cost - that is down to the individual imo. If you want to buy "Hannibal" and can afford to, then go ahead and enjoy building, painting and gaming with the figures.
@@johnhart7704 true mate. £200+ is a lot of money for one go, but really you get 2 complete armies out of it
Good honest appraisal, Dom. To address the point that everyone is talking about... £240...anyone who is complaining about that, head to your 'pile of shame' add up how much it cost you, if you need to, add in all the miniatures you own that haven't seen a table for over a year...got to £240 yet? For stuff you haven't even painted or don't use you may well have a lot more money spent than this box. I'm sorry, but people who buy thirty, forty, fifty quids worth of minis just to add them to a large queue of unpainted figures have no grounds to complain about the cost of this. If you, like me, are gaming on a budget, you can, if you want to get into the Second Punic War, stop buying stuff and save up for it. While you are doing that, go scratchbuilding terrain for the 3000 new minis you'll be fielding soon. You can put together good quality terrain pieces out of rubbish and stuff you can forage for on building sites, amongst trees, at carpet shops...it's amazing what people throw away. So no bloody excuses!
Sorry, this has turned into a mini rant, but some people piss me off.
@@davidbenton8775 so true
Warlord has put together an amazing box full of stuff here. The price seems fair for what is included, and seems a far better deal than many of GW’s current offerings.
agreed mate
Yeah with gw you get the start of an army ...
This is two full armies.
I wonder how many of the scenarios are playable with what is in this box.
Superb. I got the Hannibal Carthaginian set without the Romans. Bought two small boxes of Romans and the variety in the sets allows me to build two forces. Bought a few more Celt sprues off eBay and making a decent Gaul force and may add to it down the line.
thats a great way to do it too
£ 240 sounds a lot but you get a lot for your buck thanks for showing what's inside so people can decide if they
want to buy or not......Maybe you can catch a deal on e bay in the future.
agreed plus of course you can just buy smaller sets too
Seems great value to me. I was asked at the club if I was going to added it to my games. I will, but think it will be next year as I have Epic ACW and thanks to Stu the Epic Pike and Shotte to paint up first. Plus attacking my 15mm WW2 stash over the next few months :)
yes you have got your work cut out there mate!
This box is worth every penny or eurocent in my case and they shipped it free to continental Europe in my case Germany. I opened it and closed it immediately cause the shock…
yeah its value but then you realise you have to paint them!
Thanks Dom. Really enjoyed the unboxing. I’ve gone for the small box as £200 didn’t pass the wife’s credit control 😮
The small one is great, especially if you order from Wayland games
i think mine is now immune to it all!
agreed
Your right mate it is great value. Totally agree with you about the rule book but theyre not the only ones providing just 1 book. Im not a nay sayer with regards to Warlord but i do worry about the cost of their metals and the affect that is gaving on the industry as a whole. Also purchasing mini ranges and then re packing them with fewer models at a higher cost is just a con. At least Wargames Factory costed their plastics at the right value. That said Warlords own plastics are very good in both sculpting and value.
i wont defend Warlord but seems like most metal companies have been forced to raise their prices due to the cost of the metal
@BootsontheTable this is very true mate something to do with supply from indonesia. However, compare Warlords £17 for 8 minis to Perry £9 for 6 minis, and that doesn't make sense to me even with the increase in metal prices. At one time, Wagames Foundry seemed to set the price within the industry with packs from £12 to £16 pounds for 6 to 8 minis, which I thought were expensive but now seem a more reasonable price. I think the prices for plastics are reasonable but are creeping up and generally good products, and I am happy to buy them. The metals are nice, but I think they are becoming overpriced. Yes, everything is going up sadly, but I'm not sure their price for metals reflect the market, which seems strange. If i can get them 3rd party, then I'll happily buy them but not direct from Warlord. Their army sets are good value, and the Hannibal stuff you have reviewed is by far the best epic product so far. So, like I say, I'm not really a nay sayer, and I don't really compare them to GW, although there are some similarities. My concern is what might their business model mean for historical wargaming in the future, and if the industry follows their lead, are we going to lose the choice we currently have, and is it going to mean that as prices go up more and more people will squeezed out of the hobby. I think overall Warlords approach has been a good thing for the hobby it could have unfortunate consequences.
That's a big box! Thanks for the review, Dom. im sold on this. I definitely want this 😂
i am excited - just nervous about the amount of painting!
Mate, soon as you've got some finished, let's get a game in! ❤
@@mannyuk99 definitely
10:49 the amount of plastic😮
it's a monster....
Great unboxing all I can say is wow that a lot there I don't think it's a lot of money for what you get all things connected as most stuff costs more now days and it's should not take you long to do 😂😂😂
not sure that's true, its not a little daunting!
Crikey Dom. If that was mine I would take about a year painting them up, or more. Looks awesome though. 👍
i can't deny its a bit daunting!
Speaking of compatible figs, in the rule book I noticed a photo of a command tent and table with commanders. I dont know where thats from but would be a good buy.
@@marksfishfrenzy good spot
Roughly 8p a miniature. Not bad.
My problem is that a box like this can be overwhelming. I always wonder how many people actually finish painting these boxes
agreed - i think you need to be a little clever about it and work your way through things stage by stage - but its a lot of plastic!
That's a huge box Dom plenty to keep.you going
i wont be bored ;)
thanks Dom, hope you are feeling better soon. I thought you did well to make it through the pcp yesterday. By the way is your anti Roman sentiment based on having read somewhere that they had unattractive hands?
lol - i think i overshared there....
Nice - my box is turning up tomorrow and I'm really excited to get going - I've already painted up a few sprues courtesy of the July WI giveaway and although quite a daunting task, I am looking forward to batch painting my way through the box. My aim is to get enough painted to play out some small scale games and build from there. Very interested in the scale comparison stuff - I think Magister Militum may be a good fit but would be great if you could confirm - the news that Cromarty Forge are going to do 13.5mm is very welcome as their figures are amazing! Oh, and get well soon!
good luck Kevin, its a big arsed box! I havent tried MM ancients to compare but their Napoleonics and Pike & Shotte seem to so I expect they would here too. I am interested in trying Irregular and Museum miniatures too for scale
I do not see what all the fuss is about price is reasonable for what you get a great way for people to get into the hobby with everything you need to start not to hard to paint nuff said not my cup of tea but more power to everyone who wants it have fun play toy soldiers thats my two penn'orth worth
agreed mate
great review, loved the way you exposed the facts here, one little thing, for the sake of my ears: lower the volume of the INTRO for my soul left my body the first 15 seconds
Sorry about that
买这一套的价格还可以接受，但是涂色要的时间人工就好无比巨大了。
yes it certainly is
Great video, this is soo tempting! Get well soon Dom!
Thanks a ton!
Value is great, full game if you want it to be. That's sod all of a warhammer force.
agreed
Hi Dom this is really annoying amazing box of figures and stuff. Yes we all know that gaming is getting more and more expensive but so is every other hobby out there, as you say you get what you pay for and to be honest this box is worth the outlay as you not only get 1 full army but 2 full armies so it's worth the investment, not sure if I will invest at the moment but maybe in the future. Thanks for showing us what you get thanks mate. Take care Terry
agreed Terry
Thank you , Dom .
🐺Loupis Canis .
You bet
What scale are these?
13.5mm or old school 15mm depending on your view
@@BootsontheTable, ok, thanks. If these were 20mm (1/72) I would definitely get these.
I did not use b&s but I got mine for 185.
that was a heck of a deal - but yes definitely shop around
@@BootsontheTable yes I did get a cracking deal. I am both excited and a little nervous about starting them. I have painted flames of war 15mm before but these lines are a whole new experience.
Where did you get those
@@Oren-vv5vz
The store is called overlord games. In the UK.
I hope you'll do a video of the Scipio game in action as no-one has done that yet.
i'll certainly look into it
I thinks it’s great value, but maybe too many models. I can’t see myself needing to add to my collection (apart from any future artillery pieces) ever again.
If there were a smaller starter box, say just 2 small armies, I would have gotten that instead. I am truly daunted by the sheer size of this thing.
I am currently just painting two 350pt armies so I can start playing, and paint up division by division from there.
I’m even considering turning some of the allied models into wounded markers instead, I will need a bigger home to play a battle with everything in this box.
yeah its a little daunting I wont deny. Of course you can just get individual divisions - not as good value if building a larger army but can allow you to build more modestly
Wow plenty of figures to paint. A lot for your money. I will not be buying a box as I only do 28mm figs. Thanks for sharing 😊
its certainly a lot of figures
For what you get it's great value- but do you get too much? That's a LOT of stuff to paint!
Theres smaller army and division boxes too so you can buy in at the level you want. Plus can go in with a friend too if it helps. They paint up pretty quick if you use various tricks
@@martinradcliffe4798 it’s a litter daunting but of course there are smaller box sets too
@@marksfishfrenzy completely agree
@@marksfishfrenzy True, true...