Linux Mint should ditch Ubuntu and here's why
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2022
- I share my thoughts on why Linux Mint should use Debian GNU/Linux as its base distro.
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Linux Mint is a small team that doesn't pull in a lot of money. In a blog post they said they develop LMDE to "deliver the same user experience, and how much work would be involved, if Ubuntu was ever to disappear." Building on Ubuntu has more advantages than disadvantages I would guess. Snap support is removed in Mint. Ubuntu can use snaps until the cows come home but they won't be in Mint. Linux Mint 21 will have Ubuntu 22.04 LTS as it's base so it's a moot point for 2 more years. But LMDE has the Debain base and is fully Mint and LMDE 6 should be available shortly after Bookworm goes stable.
the crux of the argument here is that ubuntu, a company chris dislikes, serves to benefit from linux mint being a property of theirs. with multiple options, lmde is the option he recommends, but he dislikes that Canonical has linux mint under their relative control.
Mint should jump before they're pushed, move on entirely to LMDE.
I think they should go one further and just focus on the DE Cinnamon and its related apps - let maintainers package it for the different distros instead. That being said, they should do whatever motivates them.
I installed LMDE 5 on one of my machines a week ago and so far I'm happy with it. It does everything I want it to and it automatically detected and installed my network printer - first time that's happened.
I like Linux Mint. But I saw that Snap had become the core of Ubuntu. Snap has led to stuff not being maintained by Canonical. It's the outside vendors doing that. That causes system rot. Scary.
I jumped on to MX Linux because it is Debian based with no Ubuntu at all. MX Linux with XFCE works well and I have all sorts of software as I please.
I did a test run of LMDE 5. I like it. But I have MX Linux set "just right" and there is no real need to jump to LMDE.
I prefer LM Ubuntu but for deb I prefer MXL like you.
I've always used Ubuntu and to a lesser extent Debians, which for the most part have been great. A few years ago they replaced a few of the system apps with snaps and I realized I would very likely have to switch to something else eventually. Recently they replaced Firefox with a SNAP and removed the deb version - that was the final nail in the coffin. SNAP has become a closed source feature creep. If you like it then nothing wrong with that, it does the job!
So my requirements are something I can set and forget and I'm not too fond of the Arch model, however unlikely the chance that it may break. Debian Stable with flatpak is one option, but then you're getting old Mesa drivers or you have to use Testing or cherrypick packages.... Which becomes a Frankendebian. So the third option is Fedora, which I've been using for a few months now.
There are pros and cons of every distro, but I'll just lt a few of the reasons I chose Fedora
* New release roughly every 6 months, upgrading from one release to another is supposed to be fairly easy
* Always has the latest GNOME
* Their other spins such as Cinnamon and KDE are solid too. XFCE, i3 and Mate are a few of their other options too.
Anyway if you're an Ubuntu refugee and want to try something else that isn't stuck with older packages like Debian... give Fedora a go :) Otherwise, Debian is great - having older packages isn't the worst comprise.
I've always found that the Fedora update process worked really well, I'm predominantly a Cinnamon user. I tend to hold Fedora back a bit though (like update to 35 when the 36 beta comes out etc). Another option is Manjaro (Cinnamon), where I don't use the AUR at all, stick to LTS kernels only (which seem to be upgraded every 6 months or so) and are available through the Manjaro kernel manager, and I always do the major updates off the desktop (TTY through Ctl-Alt-F2/F3). I like LMDE and MX as well.
@@emjaycee I've always done a clean install with Fedora, but I think I'm going to try out the upgrade path :)
Another thing I like about the GNOME on Fedora is how I can remove a lot of the preinstalled packages like GNOME Photos, Maps, Rhythmbox etc. without any metapackage also being removed - this is a problem in Debian and to an extent Ubuntu.
Yea, I am sceptical to AUR since you don't know what you're getting. I either use distro repo packages or packages straight from the vendor. I've come to the understanding that RPM Fusion is pretty safe and Fedora use them for a few optional packages even.
LMDE looks very interesting indeed, but they will still lag behind on the kernel front sadly. This is not SO much of an issue as the Mesa drivers though.
@@nado_x I hope your upgrade path process is as good as mine has always been :) Have to say though that I'm just not a Gnome fanboy, but each to their own :) Personally, I just find 'pure' Arch to be 'high maintenance', BUT, if you like everything to be the latest and greatest and you're prepared to do the work required, then go for it. The only Arch-based I would ever use as a DD would be Manjaro, but I follow 'my' safety rules for Manjaro - no AUR stuff, use an LTS kernel, and update through TTY. For me that has just made it a much more stable system. And less work lol. From my perspective, using RPM Fusion simply brings Fedora up to the sort of level of usability that you get with most other distros that aren't so 'libre' focused. RPM Fusion, for me, is an absolute necessity. LMDE and MX are fine for all of my requirements as well. Most people don't need the latest and greatest. I think Mint has a way of upgrading to a later kernel these days, not so sure about LMDE. I think Mint, Zorin, MX is where most Linux newbies should start when they're beginning their Linux journey though... most of the others require different levels of experience to manage.
@@emjaycee Thanks :)
Yea I don't want to use Arch mainly for the maintenance reason. I'm sure it's a fantastic distro and all, but I want something that I can install and forget.
DE like GNOME/KDE are a divisive topic, but thankfully we have both options on most popular distros! I try to give KDE/XFCE/Cinnamon a try at least once or twice a year to see where theyr're at. I used to use XFCE as my DD before moving to GNOME 2* on probably Ubuntu. Back then I didn't know they were even called deskop environments. Anyway, for me GNOME is something that I can use and not notice - it gets out of my way so I can use my computer. GNOME was rough around hte edges up until maybe 2-3 years ago and has steadily been getting better. The same can be said about KDE recently.
To be honest I would still recommend any new user to either use Ubuntu or Manjaro, even if it's not my cup of tea - they work just fine and most new users won't know what a SNAP or a Flatpak is.
@@nado_x I came across as a low level Windows use about 5 years ago... in other words, I was a mouse point and click person lol. I do know a few keyboard shortcuts these days... but nowhere near enough to use Gnome :) And, when I started, I had enough to learn about 'Linux' without having to learn heaps of new keyboard shortcuts as well :) Guess I'm just old and set in my ways :) I like Gnome the way Zorin does it... and Manjaro Gnome gives you nice set up options as well :) I love the look of KDE but it is really quite complex for a beginner. Xfce isn't bad but it looked a bit outdated. Cinnamon and Budgie seemed to sit about right with me as a DE. I'd use Deepin as well except that it seems to crash most distros that use it and I don't want to use the Deepin distro itself. Manjaro is super easy to set up, but for stability it comes with a few tricks, things newbies wouldn't know to do initially. I think Mint and Zorin are way easier to use than Ubuntu these days. Having to install libdvd-pkg and libdvdcss2 every time I wanted to use VLC seems crazy to me. But, if all you want to do is surf the net and send emails and write letters then I'm sure Ubuntu would still be fine :) Whatever works for each individual is fine by me :) Manjaro, Fedora, Mint and MX remain my preferred overall.
The only reason I don't use LMDE Mint is because it lacks PPAs. And I use many PPAs
That was the one thing that I came up with when trying to think what you'd lose by ditching Ubuntu and going LMDE, and PPA support was the only thing that came to mind.
I haven't used a PPA since Flatpak happened, so I think I'd be a candidate for LMDE.
100% Agree. I recently decided to move away from Manjaro due to issues (audio,video, etc.) caused by the rolling release nature of Arch based systems. I gravitated to a Debian based system for its stability and reluctance to upgrade software until fully tested and such. I went with LMDE 5 as I started with Linux Mint back in the day and it felt like a good fit. I honestly forget it's not the Ubuntu based version at times. They should seriously consider making it the main project, it's that good.
Agreed
I suspect Linux Mint hasn’t and probably won’t ditch Ubuntu any time soon because the vast majority of their users are on the Ubuntu version and there isn’t a smooth transition/ upgrade path to LMDE.
I tried LMDE 3 and LMDE 4, but there were some issues that kept me from using them on a daily basis. So, I stuck with the Ubuntu based version of Linux Mint. LMDE 5, however, is almost there and I have been using it for the last couple of weeks more than any other OS. I really like LMDE 5, but there are two things I use in Linux Mint and found to be missing in LMDE: (1) the kernel manager (in the update manager) and (2) support for PPAs. I understand that PPAs is an Ubuntu thing, but there is a way to get them to work on Debian. I know some people don't like PPAs, just like some people don't like the Arch AUR, but sometimes versions of software I want to install are not otherwise available without building from the source code. This is especially pertinent considering the length of time some packages sit in the Debian repository before being updated to new versions. FOSS is about freedom of choice, and PPAs gives us one more choice.
I also have Debian with the Xfce desktop as my primary distro. (I installed it with the non-free network installer to avoid some of the cruft in the CD/DVD version.) I would also consider LMDE 5 a viable alternative, with one caveat--it hasn't been clear to me that the Mint developers provide an LMDE n to LMDE n+1 script, at least in a timely fashion. Also, I prefer Xfce as a DE, but that is secondary since I could install it. Cheers from Wisconsin!
Hello a fellow cheesehead here who also uses Debian I use both the Mate desktop and XFCE. If mint switches to Debian as a base and puts out a Mate desktop I will give it a try. I have used Debian for 22 years and love it.
CZcams is growing every day and I watch so much on it. I keep finding new channels to watch. It has replaced TV. I do not feel it is dying at all. Not sure where you getting that from except from your own personal experience.
Indeed, Mint should work on fully switching to Debian. I have nothing against Ubuntu or Canonical but Ubuntu changed in a direction which I am not comfortable with. I don't like it how they push Snap, I don't like it how they make the apt command install a Snap.
Thanks for mentioning SuSE at the end. Using it privately and at work since 1996 myself. Cheers!
Miss your videos Chris! Glad to see a new one!
I agree 100%! Since LMDE 4 came out, I think the LM Team should be focused 100% on Debian vs Ubuntu. LMDE has been pretty much rock-solid. From the Ubuntu side of things.... I'm just tired of Ubuntu/Canonical dissing their user-base over and over again. Like you said Chris.... This has been happening for some time now (for years). And... These issues with Ubuntu trickle down to LM to deal with. I trust the LM Team. They seem very invested with their user-base and listen to what they want/need. I remember a time when LM's goal was to take Ubuntu and make it a better desktop experience. But these days.... LM's goal is to make Ubuntu behave! From the Debian side of things... Debian is just more stable than Ubuntu. That's been very true since Ubuntu 16.04. IMO... Ubuntu has started to treat their own distro like a rolling-release beta (more or less like what Microsoft was done with Windows 10/11). That's a bad plan to follow. Pre 16.04, Ubuntu spend way more time testing before releasing. Debian's Development/Testing Procedures are more sound. With Debian maintaining a great distro base, LM can spin their magic on creating an excellent desktop experience without much trouble.
A few things should be taken into consideration here. I'm neither pro/anti Canonical, but I don't view what they're doing as a diss towards their user base.
Those of us who know what DEBs, Flatpaks and SNAPs are - we are a small percentage of their user base and not necessarily their target group. Most of their users have no idea what these are and just want to click install and be able to run their apps. You can ask Alan Pope / popey who worked at Canonical up until last year. SNAPS are part of their longer term strategy and with their store they can curate them for quality. It's not for me, but this is what they're doing.
As far as stability of Ubuntu vs Debian I would say it's a double edge. They have historically based Ubuntu releases off of Debian's Unstable development branch. This way they receive much more recent software, whereas Debian in many cases have typically remained on the version that the last major Debian release shipped with. The most recent Debian shipped with GNOME 38 and will only receive security and point updates. They will be on GNOME 38 until sometime next year, at which point the GNOME team will have released version 44 or 45 depending on when the next major version if Debian is released. The GNOME team just released 42 on the 23rd of March this year, so Debian is already quite far behind in that regard. They will also be stuck with the same Linux kernel and Mesa graphics drivers will be older.
That being said, we are free to choose any Linux distro we like. Even if you decide to use GNOME on another distro, it's very likely you will benefit from work that Canonical does upstream on the various parts of GNOME - they work directly with that project and its team. It's worth noting that Cinnamon, XFCE, Pantheon (ElementaryOS) and Budgie are all built using various parts of the GNOME stack - such as Mutter and GTK.
I may not be 100% correct on all of this so correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I see it to the best of my knowledge. Lastly, I understand the frustration as I also have been a long time Ubuntu user that hasn't been too pleased with SNAPS. In my case I just switched to Fedora recently, which has worked out well so far. I will still recommend Ubuntu and it's variants to new users since it is easy to use and many don't know or care about how they package applications.
@@nado_x I'm an old Network/System Admin. Have been for the past 25+ years. My whole view on Linux (in general) is "Stability" and any thing that can comprise it. Ubuntu was on my list of usable distros for servers and desktops until version 16.04 came to be. It was at this time when LMDE was born. Why? Because Canonical change the direction of Ubuntu, how is was being developed and started the reduction of its developers. 16.04 hit the ground (not running) and fell on its face! Bugs galore! Future versions suffered the same. Since 16.04, I could not trust Ubuntu to be a stable distro on the 1st releases. Any problems cost time and money. This does not work well in a business environment. The Linux Mint Team saw the writing on the wall and have planned accordingly with LMDE. SNAPS are just one of the latest things that have made Ubuntu unstable and a security risk. There are dozens of Canonical Decisions that have shot Ubuntu in the foot over the past decade. My views are tempered by time. And IMO..... It will not be much longer before Canonical finally "Microsoft's" the heck out of Ubuntu and Ubuntu will finally lose that "foot".
@@jonspoonamore3721 I was about to say "you may be right about" that, but I'm not sure how much value desktop Linux really brings to Canonical compared to Kubernetes and their cloud offerings to enterprise. Without seeing their financial reports it would be guessing from my end. I consider both SNAPS and Flatpaks to be incomplete at this point, so we may see a very different story in a few years. I don't really mind one way or the other... So many downstream products still benefit from the work done by GNOME and the contributions Canonical employees have made to them.
When the time comes for me to upgrade my server I will most likely migrate to either Debian. I also need to look into CentOS stream as well, checkout how long each major version receives security updates, package availability etc. It all really boils down to what type of user one is.
Both Cinnamon and XFCE are good alternatives for older hardware or those who want to stick to the traditional desktop paradigm.
@@nado_x My server choices (these days) are Debian, RedHat and Slackware. As for desktops... IMO.... The one thing Microsoft got right was the desktop. I'm not much on desktop eye-candy or fancy features. When it comes down to it, I've got work to do and no time to be fooling around. The "Start Button" desktop is the most popular desktop layout. Most Linux desktop GUI's emulate it. I'm old school. I like a basic Windows 2000 GUI layout. Slackware has a motto that I've taken to heart.... K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid).
@@jonspoonamore3721 yea I still use Windows as my main OS, but I don't think I will be moving to Windows 11 when the time comes for me to upgrade. I think it will either be Debian or Fedora, we'll see though.
You get to a point where you just want something that works. That's totally how I feel, but I'm not a fan of Microsoft suddenly releasing a new Windows that you have to pay for when they pretty much said Windows 10 would be the last Windows release you buy. Or ot may have been the press that said this.
Either way, most of Microsoft Office can be used via their web versions now, so my need for Windows has been reduced drastically.
After 2025, when Microsoft ends support for windows 10, I'm not going to windows ever again, I'll go with Linux Mint XFCE & I'm sure linux will be far far more great in 2025 than windows and everything will work out-of-the box. Shame on Microsoft.
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Surprised Linux Mint hasn't ditched Ubuntu yet and just stick with LMDE. Maybe it'll happen soon, who knows. I'm thankful for Ubuntu myself, but with everything going on, I hoped onto Fedora 35 Gnome myself and loving it.
Debian sucks. The packages in the stable version are stale.
@@CoasterMan13Official i rly don't care about that lol i love the stability I don't mind having a slightly lower version of libre office or VLC player at the end in most cases the differences will be negligible.
@@cyonnz if you want security vulnerabilities, use Debian.
I have LMDE 5 on two machines. It works very well for me.
they should go to fedora.
I agree. It would take a lot less effort to base Linux Mint directly on Debian, because Debian doesn't have snaps. I recommended LMDE to my school.
I’ve never heard of this channel, it was a suggestion from the algorithm. So I guess it still kinda works 🤔
Bookmarked your channel. And yes, it has been a while.
I haven't had reason to move off of the Ubuntu version of Mint yet, but if ever I need to reinstall, I'll go with LMDE.
Thanks for the video but something to consider... I've had issues installing LMDE 5 on some computers but have had no issues installing Linux Mint on the same computers.
I'm trying to watch a lot less youtube, but its still something I'll put on in the background when I do other things
@chris Eventually, Canonical is going to want to run shoulder-to-shoulder with Microsoft and then surpass them. It just seems logical, rational and sensible that to accomplish such a goal, Canonical is going to need some quantity of proprietary, back-office structure.
that's true, but also removes the appeal of using gnu/linux to a wide majority of ubuntu's current user base, making most people have little to no reason to make the switch. theyre not marketing to the home user, they're targeting the server end of things.
@@ViewerEm Ok... Fair enough.
Hi Chris i dont watch a lot on youtube anymore, i watch more on peertube and there own website.
LMDE would also make them ship old software, but the obvious solution to that would be maintaining a stable and a testing version of mint.
I would be afraid they wouldn't have the man power to keep a separate repo updated. It feels like they barely keep Cinnamon going.
@@REDGTA It wouldn't be that big a repo. Most stuff would come from Debian. It would be more or less the same thing as now with Ubuntu and Debian.
If your hatchback was an automatic - being 13 years old - there's a fair chance you'd need a new gearbox now or soon - around £4,000. They're bigger, heavier, more expensive and need more maintenance. So, they just cost more. Bloody great otherwise.
Manual gear change gives the driver more control . . . and greater involvement in the process of driving.
I am also going to switch to Debian base distro because of the same reason as you mention on the video in which I find the company to be sneaky and not honest with their users and I think that where people who become aware of this will start to switch as well and I don't blame them because when a company is becoming sneaky AKA evil I will not support it if I have a choice or if there is something I could do about it which is switch to another distro sure it might not be easy and it might be a pain in the butt to setup and configure things the way you had with Ubuntu base distro for me it was or is still Linux Mint with XFCE but once that all done and if the distro works and it has the applications I want and they work then SWEET sign me up LOL another issue I have with Ubuntu is that they are having security issues with their repositories because they are focusing on snaps which if fine but they are not focusing on repositories where they should because that is important aspect of the distro so I just hope people become aware of this issues Ubuntu is making :)
You have not heard of LMDE - Linux Mint Debian Edition?? I have been using it, and it is awesome.
I would use LMDE if it got as much, if not more support than the Ubuntu version. Debian 11 released in August of 2021, MX Linux released MX 21 based on Debian 11 in October of 2021, two months later, but LMDE 5 didn't release until March 2022. I know that Debian is meant to be stable, and I know most Debian users don't care to upgrade their system most of the time, but if it's going to be 6+ months until LMDE is updated when a new Debian release comes out, I'd rather just use vanilla Debian or a different Debian-based Distro.
I'm currently switching from Windows to Linux, specifically because of the always-online, bloated, and spyware-filled mess that is modern Windows. I've used Win7 up until now, but my new hardware simply isn't supported. As such, I'm finally switching over to Linux (I will also be keeping my old Win7 in a VM for gaming, but will port what I can over to Linux with time).
As far as distros go, I narrowed them down to 3 contenders: Mint, Manjaro, and Garuda. I like Mint's stability, I like the look of Manjaro, and I like how Garuda is specifically built with gaming in mind. Hence, I'm trying to get as much information as I can about all of them and make an informed choice once I know more.
This video specifically reminded me that Mint does, indeed, have a Debian version. Given that I dislike Ubuntu for many of the reasons outlined here, I decided to change the ISO I've prepared for imminent installation to the Elsie (Debian) version. I was even thinking of Debian as a distro choice a few days ago, as it has a stellar reputation for being rock-solid and reliable - something I very much appreciate as someone who stuck with WinXP SP2 up until 5 years ago - but it seems to be a poor choice for a gaming daily driver, especially since I want a UX experience somewhat resembling Windows.
All the best from Transylvania.
LMDE is great but SpiralLinux Cinnamon - Debian+Cinnamon is also great.
I still watch CZcams...
Just not as much as before because I work.
I've seen a lacking of single player fps games in the open source community
yes it is true youtube has been slow
CZcams is still my primary source of media. Channels come and go.
I have run the latest standard Mint version and also LMDE. I find the Debian version is quicker and rock stable,it is just as good if not better than the Ubuntu based version. I used to love Ubuntu but over the years it has gone down hill and no longer worthy of the hype it receives. Mint on the other hand may be boring in it's stability but it is good looking,easy to use and rock solid.Mint in my mind is superior to Ubuntu.The Mint team listen to their users which is great and they create some very good tools as well as a good distro.
Agreed.
Ubuntu just doesn't work anymore
in all honesty, from how ive heard the community talk about mint, i'd been assuming it already did. very strange
I agree and I do think it will happen. LMDE6 is a near perfect clone of Mint now, so time to ditch Ubuntu. Debian is the perfect foundation and shares the same values as the Mint team.
I am seeing less content from the creators I like. They seem to be making things to sell more and more. I know CZcams is miserly and a half when it comes to paying creators.
linux mint will have to find a way to rebuild mintstick, xfat utils is no longer in the repositories for ubuntu and are gonna be removed in debian 12
I use Ubuntu, but I don't like Snap. Very simple, I don't use it, instead I use AppImage and Flatpak. But I'm still in ubuntu and all good. It's like having a woman, you don't like some things about her, but that's not why you're going to change her, because you'd spend your life changing women.
I say all the ubuntu-based distros should throw all their hands up in the air and "just" fork Debian lmao (that would be WILD). LMDE sounds awesome but it also seems like a 2 steps forward 1 step back sort of decision simply because of the advantages ubuntu provides to make the entire experience as painless as it is. So I guess it really is their SHTF option and I think they'd rather put up with the issues Canonical is sending them downstream until it either becomes impossible to deliver the LM experience or until Ubuntu implodes.
Laughs in Linux MX
I've been using linux mint for quite a while and not as much as you guys but for some 6 to 7 years, after looking alot and thinking about the corporate directions that canonical has been making, i've been thinking seriously to go to a debian based distro, the lack of the libs from canonical servers, and ppa will hurt me, but i can live with that, i've been thinking on going to LMDE 5 just as chris has said, but some sys admins linux users that i've talked about said the problems of SystemD, about privacy, about bloated useless stuff, so i thought yeah systemD is the same as ubuntu but as a daemon for administrating the system so i thought nah, maybe this shit has telemetry, has all kinds of bullshit inside, im gonna look for alternative as the sysadmins warned be about and come to know about Devuan and MX Linux, a month ago i bought 2 ssds for my machine, here in brazil is expensive as zuck and has alot of taxes and greed so hardware is expensive here, so i bought mine from aliexpress, maybe will take a full month waiting to arrive, i will try MX Linux in my machine, if i could say the only other thing that made this decision for me was the SystemD, if Linux Mint LMDE was using another init system than systemD i would probably pick it up, like S6, OpenRC or maybe the old SysV
Linux Mint should move away from Ubuntu and stick with LMDE. Since the release of Debian 11, I've seen more stability but lack in environment updates. Should Debian become a rolling base, perhaps?
Also, on the subject of CZcams, creators are moving away from the platform in favour of Twitch and Odysee. I prefer to watch live streams, in particular the news channels, but do enjoy creators who present informative content. CZcams for me is my first source for 'how-to' videos when you have a 'how do I fix/do...?'
Nice to see you. I love Ubuntu.
I AGREE 100%... They don't need that political - corporate crap these companies are trying to do to them.. and worse!!! Besides- I've run LMDE5 and IT"S BETTER than the regular mint by far-- works the same- does the same- and does it ALL without all the big corporate interference.. and the stability is BETTER.
Mint is a great gateway to Linux desktop from Windows. However, Ubuntu is currently the engine powering Mint so, like it not, you're using Ubuntu. Try embracing Ubuntu with GNOME. The DashToPanel extension can give you a Mint style lower panel experience while still enjoying the power of GNOME. As a web developer, I find Ubuntu to be a dependable platform for getting the job done. I'm mystified by the attitude of some to Ubuntu. Snap is optional - you still have a choice and it serves a purpose. Free, easy to install, reliable and bombs Windows out of the water. What more do you want?
That said, a good video. I respect the man and the points being made.
Ubuntu has more updates then a Deb base. I have used LM for years for my PC. But if I'm going to go to a deb distro for my PC, I'm going to MX Linux full-time.
Deb stable, testing or unstable?
Yes Mint should ditch Ubuntu. LMDE is far better and rolling.
If Mint moves off of Ubuntu, I'll move off of Mint. Mint Cinnamon is awesome, and I've used it as my primary environment for the past ten years or so. While there are many great features, one of the major ones is the ubiquity of packages and tutorials that target Ubuntu. If that benefit isn't there, I'd probably be better off with Arch and Cinnamon.
25 years of Linux, including most of the major distros.
5:00 to skip the awesome intro, and get to the opinion
Not everyone has your short attention span. When a content creator goes to so much effort to make an interesting video, I think it's very rude and self-entitled when people like you recommend that others skip bits of it. It must be an "age thing", because in my day the way that you learned stuff was to just sit and listen to someone else talking.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Haha... I don't think that poster was meaning to be rude, but with somewhat tongue in cheek acknowledging that the stream of consciousness introductions are part of the Chris Ware channel brand and mystique :)
@@GarrisIiari And there's the generational difference - you look for brands, I simply want intelligent dialogue and content. I'm happy to sit and listen to what he has to say (along with many other Linux-focused creators), even though I don't necessarily agree with all of it. We were given two ears and one mouth for a reason.
Ubuntu doesn't suck.
But SNAP suck big time. If you want big and long update like windows, that's the path to go.
You need a haircut bro, lockdown is over
I think his hair looks rather handsome and suits him but you have the right to your option but I for one love the curls LOVE IT LOL :)