Joe Frazier Documentary - The Legend of Smokin' Joe

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  • A look back at the life and career of Smokin' Joe Frazier, from his childhood of poverty in South Carolina to becoming the world heavyweight boxing champion. Included are bouts from his legendary rivalry with Muhammad Ali.
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  • @deduderi5795
    @deduderi5795 Před 5 měsíci +46

    Won the 1964 Olympic Gold despite having a broken thumb
    Fought through two knockdowns to beat Oscar Bonavena, and then beat him again
    Went through hell in 1971 and 1975 to achieve the two greatest efforts in boxing history
    Severely outmatched, showed tremendous heart in rising from 5 crushing knockdowns at the hands of one of (if not the) the heaviest punchers in history, then wore contacts for the rematch because his eyesight was shot
    Did all this while suffering from diabetes, low blood pressure, and being half-blind for most of his career...truly a great, great man

    • @nervosadustbolt9642
      @nervosadustbolt9642 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Don't forget that old Farm injury that hampered mobility in one of his Arms. ( I think it was his left ) I can't remember exactly.. I apologize. Regardless, Frazier was one TOUGH, Son of a Gun.

    • @sharonjoan9997
      @sharonjoan9997 Před 5 dny

      So much respect for this man. His family must’ve been so so proud

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před dnem

      ​@@nervosadustbolt9642
      Yes, I think it was his left arm, which gave him a 'natural', permanent left hook.

  • @gilly-5687
    @gilly-5687 Před 5 měsíci +39

    Reading about this man changed my life, he taught me that discipline, willpower and sheer dogged determination are necessary for success in many facets of life not just boxing. He's the reason I got my life on track.

    • @Number1DriversSeat
      @Number1DriversSeat Před 4 měsíci +1

      Which books about him did you read?

    • @clevelandwilliams5922
      @clevelandwilliams5922 Před 4 měsíci +2

      True measure of overcoming adversity & challenge. He moved mountains because of that courage he displayed in & out of the ring.

    • @sharonjoan9997
      @sharonjoan9997 Před 5 dny

      Such an admirable man. We need these men to give the young men inspiration

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan77 Před 5 měsíci +38

    My son, who never saw Frazier fight, played a video boxing game. He described Frazier as 'that guy that never stops.'

    • @clevelandwilliams5922
      @clevelandwilliams5922 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Overpower Joe Frazier to beat him and Foreman had that in abundance, to why he was successful in beating him. Fraziers defence he was in no physical condition or endurance to fight Foreman. The Frazier of 1st Bonavena & Manuel Ramos fight fought Foreman it would’ve been a different outcome.

    • @viberunners5118
      @viberunners5118 Před 2 měsíci

      😂 accurate

    • @CC-ff7ft
      @CC-ff7ft Před 9 dny

      ​@@clevelandwilliams5922I doubt it, sure Frazier got dropped by Bonavena & barley won the fight. Frazier is just all wrong for Foreman, he's made for Foremans style.

  • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
    @g.sergiusfidenas6650 Před 5 měsíci +46

    Don't know how Ali ate that hook clean and got up, unreal toughness. Smokin Joe was a legend for sure, love the guy.

    • @stand.6008
      @stand.6008 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Ali could take a punch...maybe better than any heavyweight during his era and most other eras.

    • @cycletouringoz5760
      @cycletouringoz5760 Před 5 měsíci +7

      As Ron Lyle said about Ali in the documetary “Facing Ali”
      “Man was no joke, Man could fight”

    • @FB-nw8pp
      @FB-nw8pp Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@stand.6008What about George Chuvalo? Who never has been knocked down for 93 matches, including fights with Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, and George Foreman.

    • @andypicken7848
      @andypicken7848 Před 4 měsíci

      sergiusfidenas6650
      Its got to be genetic, like you alluded to most fihhters would be sparko

    • @HOSTILEMGTOW
      @HOSTILEMGTOW Před 4 měsíci

      ​​​@@stand.6008
      When Jose Ribalta fought Mike Tyson, he took about 1000 hydrogen bomb punches from Tyson, and ate them all as if they were fingerfood entrees LOL.

  • @seniordavidmanderson9232
    @seniordavidmanderson9232 Před 5 měsíci +35

    Smokin' Joe, fought in some of the most exciting, important and memorable boxing matches in history. The stuff of legends.

    • @Liam_Barlowe
      @Liam_Barlowe Před 5 měsíci +13

      Frazier hurts every time he thinks of Ali. His hostility still rages within. It's a consuming, ugly bitterness he has carried for decades, the result of the hurtful things Ali has said. He insulted his intelligence, his character and his lack of black pride. Ali called Frazier ugly and ignorant and, most disturbingly, an Uncle Tom. Frazier, the son of South Carolina sharecroppers, was deeply wounded by Ali's ridicule which was accepted as socio-political fact and isolated Frazier from the black community.
      Ali somehow succeeded in making a fight between two African - American men a matter of black and white. Throughout the black community, he was an object of derision and scorn because of the way Ali treated him, it was cruel. The hatred grew intensely within Frazier. He was unable to compete with Ali's eloquence, but he had a left hook that could do the talking for him. Frazier, with loating in his heart and thunder in his Everlast gloves, punished Ali for the things he said.
      Notice after Ali vs Frazier 1 fight announcers said Frazier was feeling sic in his corner and he just wanted to go back to dressing room. That's because Joe couldn't slow his heart and nervous system back down to a resting state. Joe already had history of high blood pressure and diabetes, he spent nearly two weeks in the hospital for exhaustion, blood pressure, diabetes and kidney problems..
      BUT BUT when he was in his 40s Joe was out dancing and singing in the clubs while Ali couldn't talk and his tremors were getting worse. Younger folks haven't a clue what Ali actually did to Joe, let me explain by saying it's exactly like today's Hollywood liberal cancel culture. Frazier hated that Louisville Lip and before fight he got on his knees and prayed to God that he could make Ali perish.
      Personally i have to admit, everytime Frazier smacked Ali i cheered, We All Cheered, MILLIONS CHEERED
      "We locked up three times. He won two, and I won one. But look at him now. I think I won all three." -- Joe Frazier

  • @Petey-Mops
    @Petey-Mops Před 4 měsíci +7

    I met him once when I was a courier in Philly. He held the elevator for me, shook my hand and was really gracious. Dressed in all white from fedora to shoes. The city should've saved his gym as a historic landmark. Hated seeing him live off of canned food at the end of his life.

  • @CraicDealer
    @CraicDealer Před 5 měsíci +48

    Joe will always be my favourite heavyweight

    • @davidbolen8982
      @davidbolen8982 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Epitome of Philly badassness and grit. True guts wiping out true talent. Every. Time.

    • @FB-nw8pp
      @FB-nw8pp Před 4 měsíci +3

      My favorite too!

    • @ronwelch6548
      @ronwelch6548 Před 4 měsíci

      He's always been my favorite ever.2nd is Iron Mike.

    • @nervosadustbolt9642
      @nervosadustbolt9642 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Me too!!! Me too!!! Hell, he is my favorite fighter of ALL time of ANY Weight Class.

    • @excentrik5725
      @excentrik5725 Před měsícem +1

      He is my favorite, too! He was a much better person than Ali

  • @slaphead8835
    @slaphead8835 Před 5 měsíci +82

    Joe Frazier is one of the best examples of hard work, determination, courage and resolve. He’ll always be remembered for defeating the much more gifted Muhammad Ali because on that special night he was just not going to lose! Great documentary Rich.

    • @Manny-nm8dh
      @Manny-nm8dh Před 5 měsíci +18

      It's hard to say, but he was a better person than Ali through and through.

    • @kuwaitisnotadeployment1373
      @kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Yeah Frazier was made from the mold they used to make role models. They truly don't make them like him anymore. What a great man who was treated so unfairly to and by the public

    • @kelliejohnson3050
      @kelliejohnson3050 Před 5 měsíci +10

      I admire Ali- But if i had a wish to have lunch with Ali or Frazier i would go with Joe..​@Manny-nm8dh

    • @kelliejohnson3050
      @kelliejohnson3050 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Joe would have beat any Heavyweight in the World on that night!

    • @danielE.muhammad7622
      @danielE.muhammad7622 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Thanks for the documentary of Joe Frazier

  • @OldSchoolStrength
    @OldSchoolStrength Před 5 měsíci +16

    Joes first fight against Jimmy Ellis is one scary showing of how dangerous frazier could be.. The Venom in his left hooks is bone chilling to watch.. Eddie Futch did a fantastic job with Frazier..
    👊🔥

  • @reubenrodriguez5581
    @reubenrodriguez5581 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Frazier and Ali's Rivalry will never be topped honestly, thanks to their bouts they both became the greatest heavyweights in their division and sparked a boom period in boxing history. Heck you can't mention one of these guys without saying the other, that's how synonymous their bouts truly were. Joe is one of THE all time greats, a true legend that will never be forgotten. RIP Joe

  • @philiplangerman7375
    @philiplangerman7375 Před 5 měsíci +16

    Thank you for another great job Rich . Your boxing documentaries are some of the best content on CZcams .

  • @MrT-ev4dq
    @MrT-ev4dq Před 5 měsíci +11

    What more can I say that hasn't already been said.
    Great man great fighter. RIP Smokin Joe 🙏

  • @johngannone7462
    @johngannone7462 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Another awesome episode. Frazier doesn't get the credit he deserves as a top heavyweight. Tremendous heart, technique and the one of the best hooks ever.

  • @drummersagainstitk
    @drummersagainstitk Před 5 měsíci +12

    Thank You Rich! Smokin Joe exemplifies the sport of Boxing. He was a very dangerous man in the ring. A gentleman outside of it.

  • @tloustrats
    @tloustrats Před 5 měsíci +12

    9 consecutive title defenses between 1968 - 1973 in the golden age.
    Top 5 HW of all time with Big George & Muhammad
    We will always remember the trilogy with Muhammad as the greatest in sports history.
    Smokin Joe Rest in Peace 👍

    • @Cychopath99
      @Cychopath99 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Curiously, Frazier was allowed to keep his heavyweight title in the 2 years after his first fight with Ali in 1971, he only fought 2 tomato cans in Ron Stander and Terry Daniels, and the rule should be that the champion must fight the top contender every year, yet Frazier didn’t fight any legit top contenders for two years after Ali, until he was forced to fight Foreman in 1973, don’t know how Frazier was able to get away with that.

    • @tloustrats
      @tloustrats Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Cychopath99 I mean Ali in 1978 too fought an unknown boxer to defend his title. Ali was given many decisions unfairly in 1976 (Young + Norton III).
      Plus Frazier cleaned out the division the only missing contender was Foreman at that time. Frazier beat Quarry twice. Bonnavena twice. Bugner already. Ellis once. In 1972 the only possible serious contender was only George and it has been agreed the fight takes place the very begining of next year.

    • @alangrace8628
      @alangrace8628 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@Cychopath99 thank god someone else sees my flaws in frazers record... meanwhile Ali fought 8 times in the same period and was number one contender.. frazer turned down 3 million to fight Ali in a rematch and instead took 850 k to fight foreman !!??
      Also frazer wouldn't fight liston in late 60s and he never fought, lyle, Norton or shavers... all facts

    • @Cychopath99
      @Cychopath99 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@alangrace8628 you are 100 % right, after the First Ali fight, Frazier and his management was ducking Ali and everybody of significance for 2 years, Meanwhile Ali was cleaning up the division for him. Frazier didn’t even fight Bugner, his only other opponent of significance until he got blown away in 2 rounds by Foreman, and by that time, Bugner had already lost to Ali anyway

    • @alangrace8628
      @alangrace8628 Před 3 měsíci

      @Cychopath99 and many believe frazer lost the fight to bugner... Joe was a great fighter but he is overrated...just look at his resume.. I believe liston would have destroyed him in 68/69 if sonny had prepared properly

  • @whitehurstcomic
    @whitehurstcomic Před 5 měsíci +13

    I Know you like to focus on some of the lesser known fighters, which I love, but thanks for covering Smoking Joe. He definitely deserves the fight historian’s perspective. Joe was a man’s man and a fighter’s fighter. I hope you have a lot of young followers. They need to know.

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  Před 5 měsíci +5

      My pleasure, whitehurstcomic. Yes, it's a shame that the younger fans only know him from video games, if at all.

  • @MrCrystalcranium
    @MrCrystalcranium Před 5 měsíci +11

    When you look deep into Joe's life and talk with the people who knew him intimately, you'll find Joe found solace in the bottle. Even during his reign, he was a very heavy drinker. In the years before his death, Bob Foster, when asked what were his memories of Frazier as a fighter and a man replied "Man...that guy could drink". He advised Joe many times he needed to slow down or he was going to kill himself. The diabetes, hepatitis and the alcohol led to the liver cancer. To his last days, he drank from a pint of brandy spiked with cough drops. The image of him in his final years living in a room above the gym, all the money gone is so so very sad.

    • @TFB97
      @TFB97 Před 4 měsíci +2

      That explains a lot mate. I think Joe looked real out of shape vs Foreman in the first fight. Ali said he looked fat vs Foreman and I believe him. He just didnt look like the same fighter that battered Ali in 71. Maybe it was the drinking 🤔. Although I think George would have always beaten Joe.

  • @darryllonsdale
    @darryllonsdale Před 5 měsíci +8

    What can I say Rich.That is one massive effort on your behalf.Your hard work is much appreciated. This has to be the most comprehensive documentry that I have seen on Joe.Thank you.Enjoyed this immensely. 🤗👍🥊🇦🇺

  • @Tacitus117
    @Tacitus117 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I’ve been trying to find a good Joe Frazier documentary on CZcams forever I’m so happy you made one he was such a legend

  • @mrmoon1482
    @mrmoon1482 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Joe Frazier moulded his style on Henry Armstrong, both fantastic fighters,

    • @everettseay8505
      @everettseay8505 Před 4 měsíci

      Hammering Hanks style efficiently utilized by a Heavyweight! A most Remarkable and Unique Champion! Joe Frazier thanks for those fantastic and fabulous memories ❤️

  • @LetitGolazziter-uk9xi
    @LetitGolazziter-uk9xi Před 5 měsíci +18

    Marvin Hagler, and Joe Frazier are my favorite pugilist!!

  • @dwiggles1
    @dwiggles1 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Joe Frazier was alway a personal hero of mine, that I did report on him for a speech class in college. It’s been years so my memory could be a little off…
    The story I came across on why he left home when he was 15, was this…
    It might be a friend or just a random kid from a share cropping family. But the other boy did something to up set a white man. I don’t remember what it was, in those days it could be anything. And the man started to get physical with the boy and started to beat him. Well Frazier who was very strong from work on his family’s farm, didn’t like this and intervened. Joe started to fight the man and ultimately knocked him out. In those days, a black boy knocking out a white man was pretty much a death sentence. For that reason, his family decided he should go.
    The story I heard on why his left hand was so strong, was this…
    His father in a farming accident hurt one of his arms (not sure which one), and it was either amputated of damaged permanently. The family needing to make money, Joe would go out and work with his dad who had 1 functioning arm. In helping his father on the farm, he had to be on the opposite side of his father to help him lift things. In doing this, he had to utilize his left arm more than his right. Which made his arm extra strong, giving him that insane left hook.

  • @Thelategreatjohnnybratton
    @Thelategreatjohnnybratton Před 5 měsíci +17

    If Tyson had the heart and character of Frazier he would he would have been an all time great HW instead of an all time great puncher
    Joe was a great man

    • @marymary83436
      @marymary83436 Před 5 měsíci +2

      So true because to me tyson did everything better than Frazier, but Frazier had a chin and was mentally stronger.

    • @darrenstopper1806
      @darrenstopper1806 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Agreed.tho to look at they’re styles might look similar I think that tyson was more a well oiled machine.I have to say tho I don’t think Tyson had a poor chin just didn’t have the heart especially later on.No one could ever question fraziers heart

    • @johnniethepom7545
      @johnniethepom7545 Před 4 měsíci

      ​​@@darrenstopper1806 I think in a computer simulated match between Ali and Tyson , Tyson would have won if he had the benefit of studying this fight . Cus D'Amato would have had all the answers Iron Mike needed to beat Ali .

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@marymary83436
      Smoking Joe got up six times against young George Foreman. Tyson never came close to doing that against anyone.

  • @johndavies2285
    @johndavies2285 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Wow...100+ minute from Rich on Joe Frazier..? Could me in!

  • @getsmart3701
    @getsmart3701 Před 5 měsíci +8

    YES...thank you Rich. Love me some Smokin'.

  • @michaelh.117
    @michaelh.117 Před 4 měsíci +2

    He was my first favorite fighter. Thank you, Rich.

  • @TFB97
    @TFB97 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Frazier vs Quarry 1 was an insane fight. Very underrated slugfest 👊🏻👌🏻

  • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
    @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw Před 5 měsíci +7

    One of the best hooks in the history of the sport.

  • @Ren_Brands
    @Ren_Brands Před 5 měsíci +2

    Frazier is one of my all time favourites. He was a great Boxer and even better Person.

  • @LetitGolazziter-uk9xi
    @LetitGolazziter-uk9xi Před 5 měsíci +6

    It boggles my mind that they have a statue of a make believe boxer in Philly, but let a true LEGEND, Mr. Frazier’s gym close.

    • @williamj6974
      @williamj6974 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Joe Frazier has a giant statue at the xfinity live at the sports stadiums, the rocky statue was a prop from rocky 3 left behind after the film wrapped the city had nothing to do with the rocky statue it moved around several times until they put it at the bottom of art museum stairs since tourist identified the stairs with Rocky I agree that his old gym should designated as a historic place

  • @rojai9673
    @rojai9673 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Best body punching heavyweight ever

    • @stevecvino
      @stevecvino Před 4 měsíci +1

      If you haven't please read Ghost of Manila. Love how the author Mark Kram talks about Frazier. He writes that Eddie Futch says after the Thrilla in Manila that it was the best body attack he'd ever seen a heavyweight deliver. Kram said, agreed, no words could describe the sound of the flamenco on Ali's body. The aural effect was horrendous.

  • @jessearias2863
    @jessearias2863 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Great job rich, you can't do enough on joe Frazier, such a great and interesting life 😊. I first learned about him because of wwf wersling when he was Mr T's trainer. Watched several different DOCS this is a great one. Thanks

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  Před 5 měsíci

      My pleasure, Jesse. I have a friend who only knows him from Wrestlemania & Starrcade as well.

    • @jessearias2863
      @jessearias2863 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@RichtheFightHistorian after that the cameo in Rocky 🥊 then al burns tines classic fight shows on ESPN

  • @thikimngavo8341
    @thikimngavo8341 Před 4 měsíci +2

    小学生の時、担任の先生がボクシング好きで このビッグファイトのTVを 授業中に皆に見せてくれました。白黒テレビでしたが 眩しいライトと 漆黒の汗に光る肌の2人のファイトに感動して夢見る思いでした。
    この時のフレイジャー選手は最高に輝いてました。

  • @v2vroth
    @v2vroth Před 5 měsíci +3

    My favorite heavyweight champ , great video thanks Rich🥊🥊

  • @JoseDiaz-yl9sh
    @JoseDiaz-yl9sh Před 5 měsíci +9

    Joe Frazier the nicest left hook I've ever seen

  • @a-bovea-ve-rage
    @a-bovea-ve-rage Před 5 měsíci +4

    You've out done yourself today Rich I didn't expect two videos especially one being about a legend.Your amazing man

  • @stand.6008
    @stand.6008 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I was a little kid when Joe Frazier was about past his prime. I personally think Frazier was never the same after the first Ali fight. It took a big chunk out of his prime years. After the 3rd Ali fight, he was finished as a serious contender. I did love his fighting spirit. It's a shame that Frazier hated Ali for all of those years, but I totally understand. Ali was not nice to his opponents and knew how to hit (not literally) their nerves.

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ali crossed the line. He called Frazier a gorilla, and people laughed. Howard Cosell called a football player a 'monkey' on MNF, and was excoriated.
      Ridiculous double standard.

    • @marcus.g.4273
      @marcus.g.4273 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@TheBatugan77 shaddup 🤡

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před dnem

      ​@@marcus.g.4273
      Shovit.

  • @brittlyle3523
    @brittlyle3523 Před 4 měsíci +1

    There will never be a greater era of heavyweights. Any of these warriors would beat todays so-called champs. They fought toe-to-toe, blow for blow with very little clenching. Thanks for another great presentation, Rich. You are a Boxing CHAMP in your own right, as your videos will live on as a tribute to the greatest fighters of all time!!!

  • @TheBatugan77
    @TheBatugan77 Před 5 měsíci +3

    My favorite fighter, all time, bar none. Looking forward to watching this Rich. Thanks in advance.

  • @marleywills2160
    @marleywills2160 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Incredible man. Huge heart. Talent, hard work, determination. He grew up working class the hard way, never played victim when life dealt him a shitty card, he still fought through it, it only made him stronger. and those who knew him said he was a really nice man.
    We can all admire a humble man that came from nothing
    Plus he gave Ali his first loss. Ali knew Joe would take him to deep waters. Machine. R.i.p the real Rocky.

  • @nervosadustbolt9642
    @nervosadustbolt9642 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My favorite fighter of ALL time.!! Thank you, so much!!

  • @shovelhead56
    @shovelhead56 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm 67, Joe Frazier is the Boxer I admire most. Huge Heart and Integrity. Great Expose Rich🤙

  • @ClassA8006
    @ClassA8006 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Wow, time flys. I was 7yrs old in 1971, little girl. My dad was head of the house & he watched sports, including boxing therefore we watched as a family. We had a big , black & white tv. The Wide World of Sports came on. Mom & I support Fraizer, we didn't like Ali talking so bad abt him. Dad & my brothers support Ali. Years later I learned Frazier & Ali were friends outside the ring. Both of them were Champions!

  • @jackson76724
    @jackson76724 Před 25 dny +1

    The more I learn about Joe the more I admire him. A real champion of the people.

  • @EMosby615
    @EMosby615 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Frazier was tough as nails. Gave Ali all he could handle. But Big George was just a little too much for em but still went out like a man. RIP to one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

  • @JohnDoyle72
    @JohnDoyle72 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Brings a tear to my eye just considering what a great, magnificent champion and man Joe Frazier was. Just when you think it cannot get any better Rich The Fight Historian produces this. Thank you.

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words, GEGBoxing. Yes, Frazier was one helluva champion.

  • @goricaj1
    @goricaj1 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Best heavyweight fight of all time,two undefeated heavyweights and Smoking Joe got him!!!

  • @robertdudley-rx8qo
    @robertdudley-rx8qo Před 4 měsíci +1

    this is prolly one of my favorite 1hr:45min:48sec of my life and have watched this several times. i enjoyed this long format docu. very much, ty rich.

  • @Open1
    @Open1 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Love me some Smokin Joe, Amazing Rich

  • @garrison6863
    @garrison6863 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The combination that Quarry hit Frazier with at the 1:30 mark was a beauty. What a fight that was.

  • @mmttomb3
    @mmttomb3 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Another EXCELLENT doc.
    Let me tell you when Frazier got smokin, that hook was quick and had tremendous snap.
    They talk about Mt Rushmore chins. But when it comes to a Mt Rushmore of will and determination, Joe as well as Ali, would definitely be carved in.
    Reliving that 1rst fight, you realize how brutal it was. Both fighters lost a couple year off that fight.
    Personal observation. I know that knock down of Ali was a good shot, but that shot at the 49:02 almost broke Ali's neck. Even Joe thought he would fall.
    Dream match-up, Frazier vs Marciano. What a fight that wouldn't have been. Id go with Frazier. Just too big.

  • @TFB97
    @TFB97 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Joe still doesnt get the credit he deserves. No one beat Ali more convincingly. The first fight he was unbeatable.

  • @geraldfriend256
    @geraldfriend256 Před 5 měsíci +2

    LFG fans of Rich’s channel and scholars of the sweet science. Joe Frazier time.

  • @benjohnston3369
    @benjohnston3369 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Rich, I'm sure people say this all the time, but thank you for documenting the history of both the titans and lesser known competitors in the sport. For someone like me who boxes for exercise, I love learning about the sport and your editing, footage, and narration make it great!

  • @holy_braille
    @holy_braille Před 4 měsíci +1

    Another banger from Mr. Rich! I really enjoy these long form videos. Impeccable research and footage. You’re the man, Mr. Rich. Thank you.

  • @Steve-xm2ie
    @Steve-xm2ie Před 2 měsíci +1

    Always liked and respected Joe Frazier. He was a class act, he always gave 100%. In conducting himself as a gentleman. He also have one of the most underrated left hooks in the history of boxing. He was small for a heavyweight and that eventually caught up with him. He had tremendous heart like all great champions. And just a great guy. And he totally lived the hardships of being a black American of his time. You are a great man Joe. And a great former champion. God bless you sir!

  • @racoobi
    @racoobi Před 4 měsíci

    Best intro to a boxing documentary I have ever seen. That first 60 seconds makes Joe look like one of the greatest, which he was!

  • @Osman-mj5rf
    @Osman-mj5rf Před 4 měsíci +3

    I had the pleasure to meet Mr fraser in Liverpool great boxer.

  • @user-dk4se9ys2n
    @user-dk4se9ys2n Před 4 měsíci +1

    All these years,I don't think many people realize in the 11th round,Ali was playing like he was staggering and hurt,but he was joking or playing around with Frazier at the time. If you watch closely in the 11th round.

  • @FB-nw8pp
    @FB-nw8pp Před 5 měsíci +3

    Joe Louis the referee, In Joe Fraziers second fight With Jerry Quarry. That's crazy, He was a boxing legend.

  • @bradleylim993
    @bradleylim993 Před 5 měsíci +6

    The most determined boxer in history besides Hagler

    • @Thelategreatjohnnybratton
      @Thelategreatjohnnybratton Před 5 měsíci

      Wow, that’s a big big statement and it disrespects guys like Robinson, Benny Leonard, Henry Armstrong and many many more.

    • @bradleylim993
      @bradleylim993 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@Thelategreatjohnnybrattonthere are some great contenders like Moore fighting for 10 years before he got his title shot or Armstrong swallowing blood in the Lou Ambers fight. But personally, i just look up to Frazier the most and how he kept getting back up in the foreman fights or the terrible toll he took with Ali.

    • @Thelategreatjohnnybratton
      @Thelategreatjohnnybratton Před 5 měsíci

      @@bradleylim993 Moore fought for over 15 years before he got a shot at the title. He was a MW in the late 1930’s. Second best LH ever behind Ezzard Charles

  • @jimhattery4348
    @jimhattery4348 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thanks, Rich!

  • @bearxbunny1835
    @bearxbunny1835 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I could watch Smokin' Joe Frazier hit the speed bag all day!!! He was just different, he will always be in my top 5

  • @bennyadler5882
    @bennyadler5882 Před 5 měsíci +2

    If you look closely at Cloverlay sponsoring group photo, I believe you can see Joe Hand Sr, early investor, friend , sometimes sparring partner and quality fight promoter.

  • @user-uf1cj4yy2k
    @user-uf1cj4yy2k Před 5 měsíci +2

    thanks for this video joe was great & beast

  • @bajaborracho9139
    @bajaborracho9139 Před 8 dny +1

    When joe died i was the first to say up goes frazier😊🙏❤️

  • @lawonbarrett3039
    @lawonbarrett3039 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Oba Carr from Detroit would be a good documentary. In the mid to late 90's gave all three welterweight champs good fights despite losing to Delahoya, Trinidad, and Ike Quartey.

  • @alpha_trooper8187
    @alpha_trooper8187 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Dont stop punching till smoke comes out of those gloves. A great quote and great documentary Rich. I love Joe but that bitterness he carried with him was such an unfortunate thing.
    Do you think that same bitterness held for Ali outside the ring is what lead him to never recapturing the title or was it simply a matter of decline that made Frazier never win that crown for a second time?

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  Před 5 měsíci +5

      Thanks, alpha trooper. I think Frazier's fighting style limited his longevity more than anything else.

    • @xavierjuno4572
      @xavierjuno4572 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@RichtheFightHistorian Ya as seen with Tyson and Patterson, the peakaboo style of fighting only works for so long

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the amazing video Rich ❤

  • @carlstark6857
    @carlstark6857 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Very underrated smokin joe true great for me 👍

  • @robertdudley-rx8qo
    @robertdudley-rx8qo Před 4 měsíci

    this is one of my favorite shows on earth. thank you very much for what you do rich, i appreciate you.

  • @M.P.R.76-ch8rn
    @M.P.R.76-ch8rn Před 5 měsíci +2

    Any extra footage of Smokin Joe Is appreciated 🥊💯

  • @OldSchoolStrength
    @OldSchoolStrength Před 5 měsíci +2

    Cant wait for you to cover The Hilton Brothers mate 👍

  • @GTSpeac
    @GTSpeac Před 5 měsíci +2

    Nice! - Smokin' Joes episode was overdue

  • @davidbolen8982
    @davidbolen8982 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Joe Frazier and Roberto Duran: The two you want with you in a back alley street fight. Beat Ali 3 out of 3 times. Legend of legends. RIP Joe, we love you.

    • @marymary83436
      @marymary83436 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ali beat him 2out of three times

    • @andiargana8487
      @andiargana8487 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@marymary83436nah ali didnt beat him in the third fight joes trainer did stop him for coming in the last round and ali literally told angelo dundee to cut his gloves of in last round but joes trainer stop the fight first

    • @winningwithwarriors9914
      @winningwithwarriors9914 Před 5 měsíci

      ​​@@andiargana8487 You're explanination means what you are trying to deny. Ali beat Frazier in the third bout.

    • @Cychopath99
      @Cychopath99 Před 5 měsíci

      @@andiargana8487 that was revisionist nonsense 1000%, Ali just won his most dominating round against Frazier ever in that 14th round, had Frazier staggering backwards at the end, sure Ali was tired after such gruelling fight, but he’s still in much better shape than Frazier, he was ready to finish Frazier off in the 15th, mercifully, Eddie Fitch saved Frazier from an even worst ending.

  • @jiji1946
    @jiji1946 Před 2 měsíci +1

    thank you Rich for this informative piece..... and the extended fight footage. heavyweight contests in that era were such wars, and it's not surprising to see how f*cked up those boxers were in later life, with the exception of George Forman. brutal, I but can't help but be impressed....

  • @joearnold5836
    @joearnold5836 Před 21 dnem +1

    Frazier is my favorite heavyweight! Not only his style (Smokin'!) but above all his heart. You can just tell this is an awesome dude. The fact he did all he did for Ali only to call him every horrible insult imaginable (his kids were even bullied, and he received death threats) and never once did he bring up everything he did for him, and that tells you all you need to know about the man. Lastly, I have to give a shoutout to his trainer and the clip at 23:54. I feel for this guy when he answers the reporter about everyone thinking their entitled to *his* money that he earned the hard way. As if he should be ashamed to have made some dough. People are pathetic. "And I'm not givin' up nothin'." Hell yea bro, nor should you have too.

  • @Thelategreatjohnnybratton
    @Thelategreatjohnnybratton Před 5 měsíci +3

    If the Bonavena fight was scored on points instead of rounds like it was then in NYC, Oscar gets the decision

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před 5 měsíci +2

      True maybe. But if the first Ali Frazier fight is scored that way, Frazier wins by a bigger margin. I had rounds 11 & 15 as 10-8 each for Smoking Joe. Ali won no rounds 10-8 imho.

    • @winningwithwarriors9914
      @winningwithwarriors9914 Před 5 měsíci

      What are you talking about? Rounds or points the result would be the same.

    • @Thelategreatjohnnybratton
      @Thelategreatjohnnybratton Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@TheBatugan77 I was just pointing out the rounds system of scoring is not fair. Of course NY now uses the 10 point must. And losing to Oscar would not have been the end of Joes career. In those days unlike the Mayweather era, a loss was shrugged off and on to
      The next fight. The history of boxing, aside from the great Robinson and a few others,is filled with guys that lose a few times and go on to a title and all time greatness. Moore, Charles, Louis, Conn, Zale,La Motta and many more lost fights. It’s different now. For some reason if you don’t win every fight, in spite of winning against washed up and inferior opponents, it’s thought of as a catastrophe.
      End of my conversation
      Have a great weekend

    • @tloustrats
      @tloustrats Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@TheBatugan77 Same I had 8 rounds Frazier 5 Ali 2 even but on points 145-140

  • @ivansalazar5448
    @ivansalazar5448 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I am still in disbelief as to how Frazier got smoked twice, so easily, by George Foreman...

  • @stevecvino
    @stevecvino Před 4 měsíci +1

    That was a sledgehammer from Quarry that hit Joe at 10:31. Frazier was a beast!

  • @4speedpony
    @4speedpony Před 2 měsíci +2

    I really like 'ol Frazier, he never got the big kudos he deserved and rightfully earned, you da man Fraiz! ;-)

  • @outie-dg8jh
    @outie-dg8jh Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for this one Rich 🎉💢🔥💥✌️💯

  • @tomscerbo1588
    @tomscerbo1588 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Frazier& Marciano would have been barn burner!🥊😯

  • @grbbbc
    @grbbbc Před 5 měsíci +1

    All salute Rich the Fight Historian the undisputed King of boxing channels on CZcams no easy feat.

  • @FB-nw8pp
    @FB-nw8pp Před 4 měsíci +2

    Joe Frazier is my favorite boxer. Very hard working.

  • @BrainDamageComedy
    @BrainDamageComedy Před 4 měsíci +1

    nice work as usual Rich, thanks!

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp Před 5 měsíci +3

    Rich is back at it uploading the best historical boxing content on here as always. Hands down please. Hope you and family are well brother.

  • @thesenate5913
    @thesenate5913 Před 19 hodinami

    Ali described a fighter that would give him hell
    “Someone that has no style and just a bull, who will keep coming after you”
    He was describing Rocky Marciano in think, but this fit Joe better because Joe was the first one to beat him while NEVER backing down and always rushing forward.
    RIP to the legend

  • @emokellen
    @emokellen Před 5 měsíci

    Bravo, Rich! Another masterpiece. You are still winning on all of my score cards. The best of CZcams all the way!

  • @davidsandall
    @davidsandall Před 4 měsíci +2

    Missing the "Down goes Frazier!.." call from Frazier vs Foreman 1. One of the most iconic calls in history of sports.

  • @bennyadler5882
    @bennyadler5882 Před 5 měsíci +3

    More Ali vs Frazier 1 trivia, a young Jerry Perrencio was the fight promoter, same guy who later innovated successful Spanish language network Univision .

  • @michaelzygouras531
    @michaelzygouras531 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The only boxing t-shirt i printed myself says
    " smokin' ",
    Joe's picture underneath.

  • @towers950
    @towers950 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wonderful documentary Rich ! Lots of research and hard work involved much appreciated buddy.

  • @paulhaig2467
    @paulhaig2467 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My dream fights at there prime , Frazier vs Tyson and the winner fights Marciano , Epic vid Rich.

  • @stevet9938
    @stevet9938 Před 4 měsíci

    Great content Rich, thank you. RIP Smokin Joe

  • @TomMendoladrums
    @TomMendoladrums Před 5 měsíci +2

    Brought me to tears.

  • @Truth_above_everything
    @Truth_above_everything Před 5 měsíci +3

    smokin joe my favourite heavyweight after kenny norton!

  • @alinewesser8806
    @alinewesser8806 Před 4 měsíci

    Best channel on youtube...thank you so much bro.

  • @Sean-o9r
    @Sean-o9r Před 7 dny

    Interesting personal story.
    In 1972 at ten years old.
    I ran away from home i lived in Victoria BC Canada.
    My father caught up to me Spokane Washington.
    My father and I had a rare disagreement.
    I was a stubborn kid my father called the Philadelphia gym and finally convinced them his stubborn son was headed to Philadelphia
    I was hitch hicking and the family that picked me up convinced me my family would be worried about me and kindly had me call my father.
    This family stayed with me in Spokane Washington until my father arrived and took me home.
    My father wasn't mad at me but extremely worried about me.
    I realised what i had done . How extremely selfish my actions where.
    My relationship with my father was extremely close, he recently passed,
    I was blessed to have such a great father and mother.
    Of Smokin Joe Frazier called my father to make sure I was found safe and sound.
    My father put me on phone with Mr Frazier.
    Mr Frazier with kindness explained that my actions worried many people.
    He was gentle and kind with me.
    Then I met his son briefly when ge demolished Wille DeWitt of Canada.
    I ened my boxing at 17 years old.
    Cheers

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  Před 7 dny

      Cool story, my condolences on losing your father. You met Marvis or Bert Cooper? Cooper knocked out Dewitt.

  • @Sean-o9r
    @Sean-o9r Před 7 dny +1

    Favorite boxer of all time