Shoeing Technique Half Hobble - RJF
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2020
- One of the methods I use on horses that are either unfamiliar with having their feet messed with, have had their feet shod and picked up, but don't like to have their feet touched, and need to be worked with, is a Half Hobble. By using a Half Hobble, this allows the horse to tire itself out and learn that standing still is the best option, rather than running around on 3 legs.
This is the method used for a front foot. I will post a video on how to deal with a difficult horse/mule for a hind foot, so stay tuned!
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I have found that if people know you can do this, they expect you to do it rather than spend the time training their horse. Taking up more of my time & energy. Not to mention they're made if the horse gets banged up. Yes, some will blow up. But all in all an excellent technique to know. Thank you for sharing. Have a blessed day.
There is a fine line. Most owners can't train them, and end up teaching bad habits. If I shoe them regular it makes them better for me next time. Still shoe this horse. Thanks for your comments. You have a blessed Day as well.
What an awesome skill set you have aquired over your lifetime!!! Thanks so much for taking time to share!
Thanks, glad you enjoy the videos
Your very skilled with awkward horses. Roping and calming them down without getting angry with them. I like the tool u use to alter and shape your shoes doesn't make a anvil ringing sound like a stall jack we use in the UK.. The moral of your shoeing is your breaking the horse to do as he's needed to and not letting him get away with the awkwardness of not wanting to be shod. Good methods and skill level top.
Allan Greenley, Thank-you, I appreciate your observation. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.
That’s like one of my horses , so it’s good to see someone else using the leg tie method 😊
I love it! Thanks
Thank you for the interesting video. I learn a little bit watching your videos and how well you work with the animals instead of medicating them. I have a good friend who is a dog groomer and she also doesn't believe in medicating the dog or even cats to do what she has to do. But there's so many that want to medicate a dog instead of working with them. Thank you for how well you work with them and making them to feel comfortable with you and not afraid of being trimmed or shoed.👍
Glenn Oliphint, Glad you enjoyed watching. Medicating seems to be the go
to solution these days. I learned Old School from my Dad years ago. Teaching them is the best solution. Thanks for the Comment.
I really like this farrier.
Thank you
Is there also a way to tie up the back hoof? My mare will tolerate trimming but when you get to shoeing, she’ll either hop on her front or shove her rear legs down when you’re working on the back. I am hoping a one leg hobble will do the trick for all four.
Dee, once you hop them on three legs, it takes the gas out of them and they have to figure it out. I stretch the back legs with a foot rope. I put the rope on and step behind them and keep their foot back till they quit kicking, then give them slack. If their ignorant it can get pretty western. You need them tied to a solid hitching post or to a trailer. I show the basics of this trimming rescue Eddie part three. Most of the time they are good on their back feet, or not as bad once they’ve spent a few minutes on three legs. I wouldn’t attempt these techniques unless your pretty experienced. Thanks for watching.
This guy is like the robo cop of farriers!! Every weapon on him at all times!!
ShayneDen, never thought of it like that. Wherever the horse ends up, I go back to work. No chasing a tool box or gathering it up after being scattered across the yard. Thanks for watching
I do the same thing. Sometimes the other side is necessary. ❤
Sometimes they need both sides. I might tie them for a bit then change sides. Then they are better to shoe. Thanks for watching. RJF
I have a off track mare who sometimes goes a bit wobbly when I pick and hold any foot up. Like she’s about to fall. Is this something she’s learnt because I quickly let her foot go?
Should I hold it even if it meant she fell?
I’d appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
Urban angel, I would try holding her foot up and let her do what she does. Hold it low, and even if you can’t hold it and she gets it, quickly pick it up again. Its when you (quit) that trains the horse. Once she relaxes let it go. It’s where you end up that counts. Once in a while you have to teach them a rope trick like this colt. Hope this helps. Thanks for the question.
When I saw what you were doing my first thought was you are sure going to get the fur baby crowd stirred up. Lol I wasn’t wrong. I used to shoe draft horses for a man I considered to be the best teamster I ever saw. He used this technique on his draft colts all the time and they were a treat to shoe. None of his horses were the least bit afraid of him but they respected him. When he said whoa everything came to a stop.
Allan Lavallee, Ya they do get a bit wound up but they're not the ones under them. This technique gets their attention and they learn to stand still on three legs. My dad used this as far back as I can remember. It works. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
You are absolutely right about them not being under the horse. As well I have seen an awful lot of horses whose owners were real proud about teaching them to pick up their feet. What they forgot to teach them was to hold their feet up. There is quite a difference. The half hobble was taught to me in farrier college. I have also tied up a hind with good results.
@@allanlavallee7171 Quite often the owners teach them bad habits instead. I always say, it's not what you do!!! It's when you "stop" doing what you do that teaches the horse, good or bad.Timing is the key.
I'm your #1 fan. I've been binge watched all your videos today. I wished we had a farrier like u in central illinois. The farriers want us to drug horses than misbehave. I've had horses for forty years and all the farriers will do around here r kids broke horses. I so appreciate a man like u!!
Well thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed my stuff. I’m new to this video part of it, but it’s been fun doing them. Drugging them is what all the Farrier’s here want to do do. So you can only guess that I stay really busy and have never advertised for work. I sometimes have to turn work down. Dang you might be a whit out of my reach.😩Folks here wonder what they’ll do when I retire. Thanks for watching.
What do you expect, the farrier to breakin and handle your illmanered horse and get busted up and broken in the process, that reason and accountability stuff sure is hard stuff for some horse you owners to chew on, it's a hard and cold world when deflection and blaming others doesn't work anymore and get the horse shod
Love this one!
Me too!
How long of rope do you use? Is it necessary to wrap around the body two times?
20 feet, you don’t want to be close to the action, trust me. Wrapping it twice holds better and uses up the 20’ of rope.
For my horse the front feet are fine. He has trouble with his hind feet…. Any tricks for the hind legs.
ya, There's a video on it. I put A rope on the hind and pull the foot back till they quit fighting it and then give them slack when they give in. timing is everything.
What do you do for a horse that keeps laying down when you do this?
Either make them get up and move in a circle, or go shoe a horse while they lay there and then get them up and shoe them. Sometimes they get tired of laying down sulking and they get up and stand there calm on three legs. It can be different with each horse, you have to play it by ear.
How would you go about working with the hind legs? Such as when they pull the leg away. Can one also hobble back feet?? 😳
I use a small soft rope around the fetlock and step behind them and pull their leg back. They will pull and kick for a bit, as soon as they stop at at all I give them the slack. After 2 or three times then I pull them up and get to work. If their ignorant it can get pretty western and I wouldn’t recommend trying it without having a lot of experience. I have used a scotch hobble. I’ll probably get a video up on this in the future. Thanks for watching.
Good technique Rockin. What's the tool that you used to check if shod is align. Thank you
Are you asking about my clinching block? I hammer the nail while holding the clinching block by the end of the nail to tighten the shoe and start the clinch. I made that tool.
No, Rockin on 10:03 time of the video you are using a tool to check if the shoes is align or even. What's the name of the tool. Thank you
@@miltonaparicio8525, oh ya, that’s the Shoe Master horse shoe bender. That’s all I use anymore. I can bend the shoes any way I need. Square toed if need be. The Horse Shoe Store on the Webb. On CZcams under pocket anvil.
Wonder what other issues this would work for?
Lee Ann Ott, When you take a foot away they have to start thinking instead of reacting. Their ability to react is “hobbled”. They come to class quicker.
Lee Ann Ott. While on three legs you can desensitized them and they learn faster. Can work on hind leg issues etc.
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I think it's reasonable that horse owners be required a month prior to horse trimming to watch a horse training video on leg desensitization and hoof pickup and to spend 5 minutes each day picking up feet. You shouldn't be liable for injury lawsuits due to owners negligence.
Barb, That might work in a perfect world, some horses get used to the owner picking up their feet but come apart when a farrier approaches them. This horse had been to a trainer to get started and supposedly worked with his feet. Most would put a shot in them. I don’t. This business is full risk. The horse picks up fear and reacts to it. If a farrier is afraid he’s in the wrong business. This horse was good the next time. I do wish people would spend more time with them but even after watching a video they would end up not doing it right. It’s not just knowing why, what, when, and how to do it!!! But when to STOP doing it. Timing the release is the key. I’ve had people work with their feet and teach them how to pull away really good. Bad habits are even harder to overcome. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@RockinJFarrier Thanks for the reply & I understand. I hate seeing horse owners put you in so much risk.
@@barbwellman6686 , well thanks, I’ve been hurt a few times and at my age I think about it a little more often. People ask when I’m going to retire. The only thing close to retiring is the new set of radials on my truck.🤠
Cowboy shoein at its finest!
Thank you sir.
do you not hot shoe
Williecosgrove, No, I don’t hot shoe. It is technically Hot fitting. The shoes are cold when nailed on. I will make special shoes occasionally. My forge is home in my shop. 99.9 % can be done, and done faster, without it. The shoe bender I use is amazing.
OH my God. Demand that The owners lift their legs since they are small. Lift and clean/check the hoofs EVERYDAY and it becomes a routine. Even my dogs can do it. - "Lift !"
Laura Lauren, Not all colts get that much attention. That’s the way a lot of them are, but the world is not a perfect place. So for the colts sake I work with them. When they’re 3 they sometimes act like teenagers and need a little lesson. I charge extra and they are usually good the next time. Thanks for being one of the conscientious owners. Thanks for watching.
@@RockinJFarrier Well this one had shoes so i assume it gets ridden. It was to Long ago as well. We Train our foals The basic things. Then we Never have to be Heavy with them for The rest of their lives.
Poor You. My Farrier wouldnt take on such illbehaved Grown up Horses. The owners have to do their work first. Take care now. Who Will provide for You if you get injured?
@@lauralauren6432 Ya, most Farriers don't do this kind, or the vet comes with a shot. Years ago these kind were my bread and butter when I Started shoeing. My Dad taught me how to deal with the ignorant ones while growing up and they all had shoes when he was done. It's a mind set I guess. The getting hurt part is more concerning now that I'm up in years. Had some of that. Thanks
@@lauralauren6432 not everybody rears, raises and rides the same horses for a dozen plus years, there are horses out there that need a home and also come with bad habits.
Completely abusive. Not a learning experience. Shame.
I still shoe this horse and he stands perfect. Getting kicked and stepped on is the real abuse. It works.
some people don’t understand that it is not abuse it is better to let them fight there self and not you because a horseshoer back hurts enough shoe and calm one then have too fight with one
Animal cruelty
Have you ever tried to pick up the foot of a 1000 lb. colt? Then put a shoe on it. Not getting a nail end ripped through your leg or hand. The horse has to learn to stand on three legs. Part of the learning process.
@@RockinJFarrier yes i have and this is old bullshit and animal cruelty
@@bigerman8288 I think you should look up the definition of animal cruelty.
DBR Bigerman, Just the name of your channel speaks volumes. I’ll watch for your video showing your technique.
@@RockinJFarrier I wouldnt hold your breath for that video if i were you..From a guy who has been down the road with this for over 38 years and shod more than my share of rank ones,i think i would throw up some kind of disclaimer on this video,advising the aspiring Farrier to refrain from this practice,on clients animals,until further experienced..In todays society,it is too much of a liability issue,even if you could convince the owner of the need..Ill give em the option to have the horse worked with by someone competent,or pay me the cost of doing it,at a later time,when its not as crucial to get em trimmed or shod,,,,If that is not an option,i demand they have a vet sedate them..If none of the latter,i refuse to work with them..If its your own,or for someone other,who gives permission,then thats a different matter,but id still get that permission,in writing,if it were me..Too damn many Bleeding heart sue happy sons a bitches out there any more,who wont give a rats ass,if their Ill mannered precious Baby takes you out of business....Its your call though..