Gram Parsons talks about the first time he heard "Wild Horses" in an interview from March, 1973. "The first time I heard it was the night after Altamont".
Keith tells of the original inspiration for the song. His son Marlon was born to Keith and Anita Pallenberg in August 1969 and there was talk about going on tour shortly after he was born. Keith was so enamoured with his first son he did not want to leave and he insisted that "wild horses couldn't drag him away" from his son to go on tour. Keith immediately recognised a great song title and wrote the music, the melody and the refrain ...then brought it to Mick to flesh out the verses. Mick changed the lyric to be about a love affair sadly breaking up, with the depth of the love persisting beyond the relationship and one of their greatest songs ever written came into being from a very real emotional reaction Keith had about his son. I love stories like this that tell where the inspiration for a great song can come from.
Gram and the rest of the Burritos took Wild Horses to another level. Gram gave the it an authenticity, an emotional treatment that Jagger couldn't get remotely close to achieving, and as with his blues, he does "impressions" of country to varying degrees of success.He is far better when he gives up the idea of authenticity altogether, and turns to a ludicrous, humorous take on the country genre like he did on "The Girl With The Faraway Eyes." Gram delivered straight from the soul. "Hot Burrito # 1" is all you need to hear to realize how absolutely unique Parsons was. A talent that is in the feeling, way beyond words. What he contributed to "Exile" is something only the participants know. But he did contribute that's for sure on making that album which, to my mind, is the greatest achievement in a recording studio ever produced by a rock and roll band!
@@ArmandoMPR Jagger shows no authenticity here. He's not from Texas or Alabama, yet he's singing with a southern drawl. He's ACTING. Using an actor's voice, as he did so many times throughout his career. In fact, I'd say that the brilliance, the players and the arrangements on so many of their best songs were responsible for raising the inspiration level and quality of Jagger's vocals so as to be a vital "piece" of the final product. Listen to "Let It Loose", a song with so much intensity that it doesn't permit you to consider Jagger as doing anything but giving a straight passionate vocal delivery that the song demands. In those moments I consider him a great singer, but mostly, no. I don't think most listeners consider him a great singer. Gram Parsons could sing the most trivial sounding melody and lyrics and most would say, "Man, what a voice!"
The controversy will continue ad infinitum, I'm sure. Gram's performance of Wild Horses with the Burritos and Leon Russell is a beauty; sweet, soulful, and absolutely indelible. We lost a lot when Gram Parsons checked out early.
Its actually in the movie GIMME SHELTER, the Stones recorded Wild Horses in Mussel Shoals earlier then went to play Altamonte , the free show to end the 1969 tour. So obviuosly it was written and recorded before Gram heard it, itbwas mostly Keith Richards song, he had the music and the chorus lyrics, Mick wrote the verses.
The verse lyrics and phrasing though are least half of the soul of the song. Richards himself said, this song is the best example of the stones 50 50 jagger richards magic. rolling stones are their very best
So Gram says he didn’t write it, producer Jimmy Miller says the stones wrote it, and the stones themselves said they wrote it… and yet somehow gram still wrote it lmao.
You may not know the back story. Gram may not have been dissing him. The Stones were TAX EXILES from England at that point. Literally on the run with whatever cash they had in hand. Wanted men. A lot more badass than you think. (Not the trustfunders Gram was- though I love him).Its why they had to hide in France and put their money in Switzerland shortly after and record the masterpeice "Exile On Mainstreet". True Rebels.
I read at one point years ago that either Mick said wild horses couldn't drag me away or Marianne faithful said that when one of the two was sick.. probably was her..
Marianne was in hospital. And this happened before the Stones/Keith linked with Gram. I'm certain that Mick said it to Marianne when she was (drug-induced) ill 68/69
If the initial recordings of WH were laid down at Muscle Shoals in late 69 (which they were as documented in Gimme Shelter), how could Gram have helped write it, or write it entirely, at Nellecote in 71? Keith was a country music fan for years before meeting and hanging out with Gram. I'm sure Gram influenced Keith - that's what playing together and bouncing ideas off each other does. It happens all the time in every musical genre, to all musicians. But all that said, the song is a masterpiece and obviously stands the test of time.
@@lucasoheyze4597 But he didn't hang with them extensively until he followed them to the South of France. Listen to his own words. He is saying the song was presented to him. "I heard it for the first time..." Not I helped write it, inspired it, or helped with it.
People have loved to accuse Mick and Keith of ripping off various different songs through the decades. It seems that cynics just can't accept that they are as brilliant as they truly are, so stories are made up to try to explain the magic of their genius. Their track record of writing hit songs is undeniable. You have to ask yourself if they can write like they do, why in the world would the need to steal from someone else? Well at least no one claimed that Brian Jones wrote it
+ Wild Horses was written several different ways in one of Gram's writing journals. In the liner notes to the 1993 Rolling Stones compilation album Jump Back, Jagger states, "I remember we sat around originally doing this with Gram Parsons, and I think his version came out slightly before ours." Gram had written many songs that he never followed up on since he always had money coming in from his very wealthy family. Did whatever he wanted playing with different musicians when he felt like it. Never needed or had to work for any money. Play with the guys writing music when it is fun but duck out when it is not so fun. Go to Harvard while it was fun or Jacksonville Boles prestigious high school and then duck out. Gram was a well known heavy partier was always having problems following through with any responsibilities or stick with his commitments his whole life and had come and gone with several bands and many musicians. A true creative artist. He influenced more than what he did. I grew up with several of his cousins, one was a childhood friend and we went to the same highschool and born in the same hospital as Gram. Their family owned a third of Florida's citrus at one time. Very wealthy family and some of the most giving and greatest people I ever met, but some of them had some serious alcohol problems probably because they never really had to worry about anything because they always had money. Both of his parents passed away at very young ages that I am sure made it hard without any true direction in his life. He was so talented but never could keep it together.
Wild Horses is actually kind of a rewrite . The way Jim Dickson (he played piano on this song) told it was , when the Stones showed up at Muscle Shoals they worked it up in the studio , with Keith originally hearing it as a song for his new son Marlon . Mick then changed the lyrics around to what we hear now .
Funny story, Keith Richards wife thought Gram was a bad influence on him and didn't want him to hang out with Gram for fear Gram would kill him. Gram was THE party animal.
Bit of a stretch. I dig Gram (so I’m not dissing him) but Gram was over staying his welcome in France and like is usually the case, the woman has to be the heavy to move folks out.
There it is right there, straight from the horses mouth. Now everybody can stfu about who and when Wild Horses was written. PS...I had always suspected that it was written by the Stones.
If you watch the gimme shelter concert it shows a bit of the stones cutting wild horses in muscle Shoals studios, and the beurito bros play a song live too, in fact,if you are into the hippy era you should love that movie, even though it was Rock and Rolls darkest day,if you dig the stones it's a must watch, the stones play absolutely brilliantly when they can, the angels kept disrupting shit 🙄
It would be very strange if the first time he heard it was after "the night the music died". It is a Kieth richard song that he brought to france. kieth himself says he wrote it just before the move to nelle cote. I don't think gram wrote it. But I'm positive he had some input because it is swell known that it was written when gram lived under Kieth's roof.
Not so. Gram did stay "under Keith's roof" at Nellcote but the song was already released by then. The song, along with "Brown Sugar" and "You Gotta Move", was first recorded at Muscle Shoals in Alabama two days before Altamont which was on December 6, 1969. It was released on "Sticky Fingers" in April 1971 before the Stones decamped to France in May '71 where the bulk of "Exile On Main Street" was recorded in the basement at Nellcote.
No, it wasn't. Gram said he heard it right after Altamont (December 1969) The Burritos then cut it and released it on Burrito Deluxe (April 1970) The Stones didn't end up in the South of France (with all the hangers-on) until the following year. This nonsense that Gram had anything to do with the writing of the song needs to stop. This video tells the story in his own words...He didn't write it.
@@patexx7091 Dude you worked with Jimmy Miller!? He moved to Massachusetts later in life and worked as a producer around New England. He even recorded small local bands I heard. Did you know him then? Im from MA and heard stories. Legend.
Throwing my purely musicological hat into the ring, I would argue that the song has very similar harmonies and musical structure to other GP songs such as Love Hurts, and to no other songs in the RS catalog that I can recall. To elaborate: often GP writes a song using a lovely set of unusual chord changes, with an extended bridge in the middle of the song for contrast. In comparison, I can't recall any Stones songs with a similar compositional approach of unusual chord changes and an extended bridge. Indeed, KR himself has said that he usually would write his songs by coming up with a catchy riff and then building from that, and there are no catchy riffs in Wild Horses, just beautiful melodies and harmonies which frankly sound more sophisticated than what KR is used to working with. Lyrically speaking, "wild horses couldn't drag me away" sounds more like what a country boy with a heart full of poetry would write rather than an economics student from London. But I'm no expert in the extensive RS back catalog, and am fully prepared for some RS scholar to shoot all of this down.
lol! Why would anybody shoot this down? The Stones had already dabbled in country music way before Sicky Fingers. Why would GP lie about this in an interview?
@@eightinches6094 I can't say why people lie, but there's no denying that they do it all the time.: -Keith Richards' own autobio is full of, shall we say, strategic misrememberings on various historical points. I'm only approaching this issue purely as a musicologist, and from the standpoint of style this song is a far, far better match for GP than it is to the RS.
@@markpx ....well I guess we can agree to disagree but I'm sticking with Gram's statement in the interview. He could've easily had said "yeah, I wrote it and gave it to the Stones and they loved it". PS....even if I were an economic student from London who had an admiration for CW music and was trying to write a CW song with a CW feeling, I could've come up with "wild horses couldn't drag me away".
@@eightinches6094 Sticking with what people say we run into all kinds of contradictions. Mick J's own brother said GP wrote the song, what about that? There were a lot of drugs going around, so we may never know for sure.
@@markpx ....Paul isn't dead, the Earth is round, we landed on the moon, Hitler shot himself and did not escape to Brazil, the Stones wrote Wild Horses, lol!
It is not uncommon, during a song writing recording developing mastering and finalising, for a song to move back and forth between song contributing members. ...So without knowing at what stage in the songs development Gram was reffering to it is impossible to derive any information from what he said. Ie he could have wrote it and passed it on to the stones who recorded it and passed it back OR the stones could have wrote it and passed it back gram OR they could have all wrote it together then the stones recorded it and passed the work in progress to Gram so that he could add his final contribution before it would finally be a finished piece.
Instrumentals4Sale Altamont was late 69. Stones first recorded it in 69 at muscle shoals. This interview was in 73. For God sake let it go man, keith and mick wrote it.
Sweet Virginia is a bastardisation of Little Old Wine Drinker Me basically a copy with a chord change making it a different tune leaving “thank you for your wine California” as a reference to the original. Payback perhaps for the way Dino treated the Stones on his show.
Hillman tell Gram that the Stones ripped him off for Wild Horses. Gram tells Chris that it's an honor to have a tune stolen by the Stones. And Hillman ought to know.
Thats interesting because Ive seen excerpts from Mick that said the song was written during a time that Keith and Gram and Him were hanging out. Also Micks brother said he didn't write it. There are EVEN youtube recordings of Keith and Gram playing a riff that sounds very much like WH's. I believe Gram wrote the music with Keith and then the Stones finished the lyrics and recorded it. Gram was a very generous soul who, probably, just let them take credit for it. Don't know why, but it sure sounds a lot like what Gram was doing at the time then what the Stones were doing
Wiki Wild Horses and read what it says. Mick said they were hanging out with Gram when the song was wrote. If that were true how could Gram have heard the song after Altimont???
Also the account gives of Mick sending him the tapes to do a steel guitar over it doesn't make sense. He didn't play pedal steel. Sneeky Pete Klienlow was his pedal steel player.
It's nice that he told the truth this time. I believe he claimed to have written it in other interviews. He tended to tell outrageous lies in many interviews, possibly because he was high at the time.
So he books the studio, producer, and competent musicians and then the whole thing melts down because of the “strange dust”. This is unfortunately why Graham could never make it, even if he had lived....substance use/abuse made him totally unreliable.
“The first time he heard it” doesn’t mean he didn’t write it. All that confirms is that he heard the stones recording of the song and was asked later to put an over dub on it… as if the stones couldn’t find anyone else lol. That was probably just a way to give him some credit/money for letting them claim his song.
I love the Stones but Gram’s version is my favourite. Wild horses by flying burrito brothers was my wedding song. RIP Gram
Gram's version is hauntingly beautiful.
Keith tells of the original inspiration for the song. His son Marlon was born to Keith and Anita Pallenberg in August 1969 and there was talk about going on tour shortly after he was born. Keith was so enamoured with his first son he did not want to leave and he insisted that "wild horses couldn't drag him away" from his son to go on tour.
Keith immediately recognised a great song title and wrote the music, the melody and the refrain ...then brought it to Mick to flesh out the verses.
Mick changed the lyric to be about a love affair sadly breaking up, with the depth of the love persisting beyond the relationship and one of their greatest songs ever written came into being from a very real emotional reaction Keith had about his son.
I love stories like this that tell where the inspiration for a great song can come from.
Gram and the rest of the Burritos took Wild Horses to another level. Gram gave the it an authenticity, an emotional treatment that Jagger couldn't get remotely close to achieving, and as with his blues, he does "impressions" of country to varying degrees of success.He is far better when he gives up the idea of authenticity altogether, and turns to a ludicrous, humorous take on the country genre like he did on "The Girl With The Faraway Eyes." Gram delivered straight from the soul. "Hot Burrito # 1" is all you need to hear to realize how absolutely unique Parsons was. A talent that is in the feeling, way beyond words. What he contributed to "Exile" is something only the participants know. But he did contribute that's for sure on making that album which, to my mind, is the greatest achievement in a recording studio ever produced by a rock and roll band!
Nah, the Stones’ version is better. Jagger sings it beautifully and with authenticity precisely because he isn’t making a voice.
@@ArmandoMPR Jagger shows no authenticity here. He's not from Texas or Alabama, yet he's singing with a southern drawl. He's ACTING. Using an actor's voice, as he did so many times throughout his career.
In fact, I'd say that the brilliance, the players and the arrangements on so many of their best songs were responsible for raising the inspiration level and quality of Jagger's vocals so as to be a vital "piece" of the final product. Listen to "Let It Loose", a song with so much intensity that it doesn't permit you to consider Jagger as doing anything but giving a straight passionate vocal delivery that the song demands. In those moments I consider him a great singer, but mostly, no. I don't think most listeners consider him a great singer. Gram Parsons could sing the most trivial sounding melody and lyrics and most would say, "Man, what a voice!"
@@ArmandoMPR that guy above needs help with both his musical taste and his hearing! Stone's wrote this and recorded the BEST VERSION.
@@lamper2he’s delusional.
The controversy will continue ad infinitum, I'm sure. Gram's performance of Wild Horses with the Burritos and Leon Russell is a beauty; sweet, soulful, and absolutely indelible. We lost a lot when Gram Parsons checked out early.
Why will it continue? He didn't even hint that he wrote/composed it. And yes, he did do a good version.
I just listened to his version--it's at least as good as and maybe better than the Stones--the slide adds a lot.
I like the version by the Sundays.
theres no 'controversy'. Only fucking idiots believe that he wrote it
Its actually in the movie GIMME SHELTER, the Stones recorded Wild Horses in Mussel Shoals earlier then went to play Altamonte , the free show to end the 1969 tour. So obviuosly it was written and recorded before Gram heard it, itbwas mostly Keith Richards song, he had the music and the chorus lyrics, Mick wrote the verses.
But they already knew each other for quite a while before that.
The verse lyrics and phrasing though are least half of the soul of the song. Richards himself said, this song is the best example of the stones 50 50 jagger richards magic. rolling stones are their very best
So Gram says he didn’t write it, producer Jimmy Miller says the stones wrote it, and the stones themselves said they wrote it… and yet somehow gram still wrote it lmao.
Gram wrote Wild Horses, but he forgot that he did.
And the vocal phrasing sounds like mick, parsons doesnt sing like that in any of his songs.
If you believe the pianist on Wild Horses, here’s the story.
m.czcams.com/video/N2gZyTNKikc/video.html
It was the strange dust.
The uncontrollable laughter when he said "take his suitcase of money to Switzerland" is a mood, and I'm in it right now.
Hear you.
You may not know the back story. Gram may not have been dissing him. The Stones were TAX EXILES from England at that point. Literally on the run with whatever cash they had in hand. Wanted men. A lot more badass than you think. (Not the trustfunders Gram was- though I love him).Its why they had to hide in France and put their money in Switzerland shortly after and record the masterpeice "Exile On Mainstreet". True Rebels.
Miss him.
incredible, missed very very much, ¡♥️😎♥️¡
I love Gram Parsons version of this beautiful song
There it is folks
They get the money, he writes the song, I guess I will write the song.
@@rogerfournier3284 bollocks
I read at one point years ago that either Mick said wild horses couldn't drag me away or Marianne faithful said that when one of the two was sick.. probably was her..
Marianne was in hospital. And this happened before the Stones/Keith linked with Gram. I'm certain that Mick said it to Marianne when she was (drug-induced) ill 68/69
Awesome Piece of history and music style thank you for sharing
I prefer Gram’s version of Wild Horses over the Stones. He seems like such an easy going guy! Great talent!
Everyone was high.
If the initial recordings of WH were laid down at Muscle Shoals in late 69 (which they were as documented in Gimme Shelter), how could Gram have helped write it, or write it entirely, at Nellecote in 71? Keith was a country music fan for years before meeting and hanging out with Gram. I'm sure Gram influenced Keith - that's what playing together and bouncing ideas off each other does. It happens all the time in every musical genre, to all musicians. But all that said, the song is a masterpiece and obviously stands the test of time.
Your dates are confused, Gram met the Stones before that.
Doesn't matter, Gram himself talks about when he first heard the song... He obviously didn't write it.
@@lucasoheyze4597 But he didn't hang with them extensively until he followed them to the South of France. Listen to his own words. He is saying the song was presented to him. "I heard it for the first time..." Not I helped write it, inspired it, or helped with it.
Bullshit. Mick was jealous of Gram and Keith. Facts
@@mckshrmptn what's this gossip about MP~J..... Have to do with milking ducks?🤔
People have loved to accuse Mick and Keith of ripping off various different songs through the decades. It seems that cynics just can't accept that they are as brilliant as they truly are, so stories are made up to try to explain the magic of their genius.
Their track record of writing hit songs is undeniable. You have to ask yourself if they can write like they do, why in the world would the need to steal from someone else?
Well at least no one claimed that Brian Jones wrote it
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Wild Horses was written several different ways in one of Gram's writing journals. In the liner notes to the 1993 Rolling Stones compilation album Jump Back, Jagger states, "I remember we sat around originally doing this with Gram Parsons, and I think his version came out slightly before ours." Gram had written many songs that he never followed up on since he always had money coming in from his very wealthy family. Did whatever he wanted playing with different musicians when he felt like it. Never needed or had to work for any money. Play with the guys writing music when it is fun but duck out when it is not so fun. Go to Harvard while it was fun or Jacksonville Boles prestigious high school and then duck out. Gram was a well known heavy partier was always having problems following through with any responsibilities or stick with his commitments his whole life and had come and gone with several bands and many musicians. A true creative artist. He influenced more than what he did. I grew up with several of his cousins, one was a childhood friend and we went to the same highschool and born in the same hospital as Gram. Their family owned a third of Florida's citrus at one time. Very wealthy family and some of the most giving and greatest people I ever met, but some of them had some serious alcohol problems probably because they never really had to worry about anything because they always had money. Both of his parents passed away at very young ages that I am sure made it hard without any true direction in his life. He was so talented but never could keep it together.
Wild Horses is actually kind of a rewrite . The way Jim Dickson (he played piano on this song) told it was , when the Stones showed up at Muscle Shoals they worked it up in the studio , with Keith originally hearing it as a song for his new son Marlon . Mick then changed the lyrics around to what we hear now .
So who do you reckon actually wrote it ? I’m lost here
Keith or gram?
@Mountain Chief Yes,Walter B.Memphis.
Funny story, Keith Richards wife thought Gram was a bad influence on him and didn't want him to hang out with Gram for fear Gram would kill him. Gram was THE party animal.
Anita Pallenburg kicked Gram and his gf out of Nellcote.
Bit of a stretch. I dig Gram (so I’m not dissing him) but Gram was over staying his welcome in France and like is usually the case, the woman has to be the heavy to move folks out.
You can hear he's high on this interview; classic smacked out drawl...
There it is right there, straight from the horses mouth. Now everybody can stfu about who and when Wild Horses was written. PS...I had always suspected that it was written by the Stones.
If you watch the gimme shelter concert it shows a bit of the stones cutting wild horses in muscle Shoals studios, and the beurito bros play a song live too, in fact,if you are into the hippy era you should love that movie, even though it was Rock and Rolls darkest day,if you dig the stones it's a must watch, the stones play absolutely brilliantly when they can, the angels kept disrupting shit 🙄
as i recall , the flying burrito version with gram singing came out before sticky fingers (i could be mistaken). credited to jaggar/richard.
That also happened with Marvin Gaye and Satisfaction I believe
@Mountain Chief Otis! My mistake! I was listening to sitting on the dock of the bay earlier 😅
@Mountain Chief you too friend 👍
so they said bout "dead flowers" and others....and that can be the best definition of what Nellcote really was..
I guess this interview from Grams own mouth, settles the argument over who wrote Wild Horses. Case closed.
Gram was noted to be a storyteller, so no. His sister said that Gram never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Some strange dust
yeah, wonder what that was lolol
@@Apollo_Blaze it was to get the reindeers off
It would be very strange if the first time he heard it was after "the night the music died". It is a Kieth richard song that he brought to france. kieth himself says he wrote it just before the move to nelle cote.
I don't think gram wrote it. But I'm positive he had some input because it is swell known that it was written when gram lived under Kieth's roof.
Not so. Gram did stay "under Keith's roof" at Nellcote but the song was already released by then. The song, along with "Brown Sugar" and "You Gotta Move", was first recorded at Muscle Shoals in Alabama two days before Altamont which was on December 6, 1969. It was released on "Sticky Fingers" in April 1971 before the Stones decamped to France in May '71 where the bulk of "Exile On Main Street" was recorded in the basement at Nellcote.
No, it wasn't. Gram said he heard it right after Altamont (December 1969) The Burritos then cut it and released it on Burrito Deluxe (April 1970) The Stones didn't end up in the South of France (with all the hangers-on) until the following year. This nonsense that Gram had anything to do with the writing of the song needs to stop. This video tells the story in his own words...He didn't write it.
@@patexx7091 Dude you worked with Jimmy Miller!? He moved to Massachusetts later in life and worked as a producer around New England. He even recorded small local bands I heard. Did you know him then? Im from MA and heard stories. Legend.
@@patexx7091 Beautifull desaster!
Where was this interview, with whom?
The interviewer is Michael Bate apparently on Gram's tour bus in March 1973.
The whole interview is here: czcams.com/video/PBBnsedC9Jg/video.html
Throwing my purely musicological hat into the ring, I would argue that the song has very similar harmonies and musical structure to other GP songs such as Love Hurts, and to no other songs in the RS catalog that I can recall.
To elaborate: often GP writes a song using a lovely set of unusual chord changes, with an extended bridge in the middle of the song for contrast.
In comparison, I can't recall any Stones songs with a similar compositional approach of unusual chord changes and an extended bridge. Indeed, KR himself has said that he usually would write his songs by coming up with a catchy riff and then building from that, and there are no catchy riffs in Wild Horses, just beautiful melodies and harmonies which frankly sound more sophisticated than what KR is used to working with.
Lyrically speaking, "wild horses couldn't drag me away" sounds more like what a country boy with a heart full of poetry would write rather than an economics student from London.
But I'm no expert in the extensive RS back catalog, and am fully prepared for some RS scholar to shoot all of this down.
lol! Why would anybody shoot this down? The Stones had already dabbled in country music way before Sicky Fingers. Why would GP lie about this in an interview?
@@eightinches6094 I can't say why people lie, but there's no denying that they do it all the time.: -Keith Richards' own autobio is full of, shall we say, strategic misrememberings on various historical points. I'm only approaching this issue purely as a musicologist, and from the standpoint of style this song is a far, far better match for GP than it is to the RS.
@@markpx ....well I guess we can agree to disagree but I'm sticking with Gram's statement in the interview. He could've easily had said "yeah, I wrote it and gave it to the Stones and they loved it". PS....even if I were an economic student from London who had an admiration for CW music and was trying to write a CW song with a CW feeling, I could've come up with "wild horses couldn't drag me away".
@@eightinches6094 Sticking with what people say we run into all kinds of contradictions. Mick J's own brother said GP wrote the song, what about that? There were a lot of drugs going around, so we may never know for sure.
@@markpx ....Paul isn't dead, the Earth is round, we landed on the moon, Hitler shot himself and did not escape to Brazil, the Stones wrote Wild Horses, lol!
It is not uncommon, during a song writing recording developing mastering and finalising, for a song to move back and forth between song contributing members. ...So without knowing at what stage in the songs development Gram was reffering to it is impossible to derive any information from what he said. Ie he could have wrote it and passed it on to the stones who recorded it and passed it back OR the stones could have wrote it and passed it back gram OR they could have all wrote it together then the stones recorded it and passed the work in progress to Gram so that he could add his final contribution before it would finally be a finished piece.
Instrumentals4Sale Altamont was late 69. Stones first recorded it in 69 at muscle shoals. This interview was in 73. For God sake let it go man, keith and mick wrote it.
@@Canibal_Animal Right?
Yeah I think you always know when you have written a song …….its an emotional journey ….sure it may grow and change …….but you know
Nice try.
I never thought Wild Horses was written by Gram Parsons but Sweet Virginia? Yeh
Sweet Virginia is a bastardisation of Little Old Wine Drinker Me basically a copy with a chord change making it a different tune leaving “thank you for your wine California” as a reference to the original. Payback perhaps for the way Dino treated the Stones on his show.
@@alexbowman7582 Bastardisation could be better, all musics are about that.
Grams version is nowhere near as good as the Stones original. But he was a great musician! R.I.P.
Hillman tell Gram that the Stones ripped him off for Wild Horses. Gram tells Chris that it's an honor to have a tune stolen by the Stones. And Hillman ought to know.
Just because you say it doesn't make it so.
Chris Hillman was with Gram, more than Keef was.
@@patexx7091 Gram was high; he couldn't remember.
Townes
Lol zandt? He Could've written it but he didn't
Thats interesting because Ive seen excerpts from Mick that said the song was written during a time that Keith and Gram and Him were hanging out. Also Micks brother said he didn't write it. There are EVEN youtube recordings of Keith and Gram playing a riff that sounds very much like WH's. I believe Gram wrote the music with Keith and then the Stones finished the lyrics and recorded it. Gram was a very generous soul who, probably, just let them take credit for it. Don't know why, but it sure sounds a lot like what Gram was doing at the time then what the Stones were doing
I would be interested to know which sources you're referring to.
Wiki Wild Horses and read what it says. Mick said they were hanging out with Gram when the song was wrote. If that were true how could Gram have heard the song after Altimont???
Wiki Wild Horses. See what Mick said!
Gram on rhythm!!!
Also the account gives of Mick sending him the tapes to do a steel guitar over it doesn't make sense. He didn't play pedal steel. Sneeky Pete Klienlow was his pedal steel player.
It's nice that he told the truth this time. I believe he claimed to have written it in other interviews. He tended to tell outrageous lies in many interviews, possibly because he was high at the time.
Don't do drugs kids. Just say no.
If they didn’t all get stoned we could have an even better version of Wild Horses. Not that there is anything wrong with the one we know😏
Keith was on hard drugs at Neilcote, listen Exile, he was less productive when he stopped all, paradox?
More for me.
Well they definitely are known for taking all credit when not all credit is do
So he books the studio, producer, and competent musicians and then the whole thing melts down because of the “strange dust”. This is unfortunately why Graham could never make it, even if he had lived....substance use/abuse made him totally unreliable.
Not Graham it's Gram
Gram wrote Wild Horses, but the Stones stole it from them and recorded a much better version. Period. Lol
From him. Sorry
Grahm wrote it.
"They ripped off his song" "Come on man, Gram Parson is the man!"
“The first time he heard it” doesn’t mean he didn’t write it. All that confirms is that he heard the stones recording of the song and was asked later to put an over dub on it… as if the stones couldn’t find anyone else lol. That was probably just a way to give him some credit/money for letting them claim his song.
It’s not that important
I Think IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.Not a very cool statement Just my opinion, Walter B.Memphis.
Another example of a mediocre talent dying and suddenly becoming a genius because of it.
Keith does not agree with you. Read his book. Neither do a raft of other musicians and fans.