I love that Emet sees how sad we are at them leaving again and appeals to our curiosity and love of adventure to keep us happy and going forward. “The future you fought for is not the past we loved.” Now he has given up on the past and is encouraging us to keep that spirit of a better future and not dwell on losing them. He has adopted the thinking the Scions had when we first confronted him and he has now become a scion, to me, and I really would like for him to come back to continue that evolution.
I don't think you should view him as a Scion per say. As Hythlodaeus said when speaking of Azem. "Whenever our friend calls for help, Emet always comes to their aid". You don't need to be a Scion for wanting to help one of your dearest friends.
I for one was glad to see him come as an ally. I was overjoyed when the two of them came out of the light. I was like "I knew it!" I was glad to see him as a villain in shadow ringers and as an ally in end walkers.
13:40 When I reached this part, something about what Emet-Selch said in this part awakened a long line of thought in my head. Something I didn't even think about until this moment here. It had me pondering for the past year and a half thinking what I'm even doing with my 9-6 job, and I'm honestly quite dissatisfied. I then came to the conclusion that I should just explore the world more, seek bigger horizons. Meet new people. Find something worth living for. Roam the Earth and see what I can find for myself. Though I may be hundreds of miles away from home now, I think I may have finally found true happiness in my life. Thanks, Emet-Selch. Your last words made me go on my own Dawntrail.
God. I'm actually angry that I wasn't given a dialogue option here with Emet-Selch (Hades)! I wanted to Sora him with a huge tackle-hug, calling out his name while crying and saying "Emet-Selch! I've missed you, you Tsundere bastard!"
** WARNING: Spoiler Comment for Shadowbringers & Endwalker Content ** Lmao. I love that Azem, Hythlodaeus, and Venat basically exist to torment Emet-Selch with their antics, tomfoolery, and mischief (very much in the same way our character interacts with and sometimes annoys our Scion companions). But I also love that as much as Emet-Selch groans and complains, he always puts up with it. Why? Well, it's partly because it's amusing and entertaining, to say the least, but two, because I'm fairly certain these were the only actual friends Emet-Selch ever had. Or at least, the only people who could put up with Emet-Selch. For all Emet-Selch's posturing and moaning, I love how you can non-verbally see that Emet-Selch genuinely cares very deeply and often thinks about and worries about his friends. Not only that, he takes his role as "Emet-Selch," ruler of the Aethereal Sea (the Underworld) very seriously. He takes pride in it, his work, and his friends. As Hythlodaeus and Venat said in Elpis, it's because he cares deeply that he scolds and reticules them. It's because he worries (aside from the "Azem's" and Hythlodaeus, there was probably none that cared more deeply not only for his people, but for all the creations on the star and the star itself). He's very much "the parent" to the three, trying to teach them, look out for them, and wants the best for them. However, he doesn't coddle or spoil. He's very serious, direct, and to the point. But that's just part of his charms. He can be kind and sympathetic when need be, but he's trying to build you up to be stronger. But just as much as the other three needed Emet-Selch to keep them in line, Emet-Selch also needed them. Yes, he's very abrasive and prickly on the outside. But he's always been there for Azem, Hythlodaeus, and Venat whenever they needed him. He's never failed to assist them when they needed it. ...Is it then any wonder why Emet-Selch carried Azem's crystal with him on travels in memory of his friend? Why he despaired so greatly that he created a phantom Amaurot so that he could spend his time in it reminiscing of those halcyon days? Or why he poured more aether into creating a more complete and intelligent phantom Hythlodaeus for our character to interact with? And is it any wonder why throughout the entire Shadowbringers expansion, Emet-Selch went out of his way numerous times and tried desperately to revive the memories/soul/aether of his friend Azem that he saw in us, the Warrior of Light/Warrior of Darkness? Every time our character was overly sad in-game, Emet-Selch always cracked and helped us out or offered sage advice. I know in Endwalker in Ultima Thule, Emet-Selch longs for his rest and says that he wants to be no part of a reunion should they all meet again in a new world/new life. However, if there was ONE character in this entire game (FFXIV) that I wish with all my heart we could revive and bring into the Scions as a companion, it would be Emet-Selch (Hades). It's almost downright criminal that we don't get more time with him accounting for how well his character was written and portrayed. FFXIV's Emet-Selch (Hades) is probably one of the most well-written and thought-out characters in any RPG. And I also love that it showcases that real-world people who aren't extroverted, aren't overly friendly or sociable, and who don't frequently use humor, and who are more serious and direct can still be phenomenal individuals whom you want around. Literally the definition of, "yes he's a witty sarcastic asshole, but I love him!" S-Tier all-around. #FFXIV #FinalFantasy14 #Endwalker #EmetSelch #Hades #ReneZagger #NaokiYoshida
Can't help but disagree in the strongest possible terms. Emet-Selch is a good character BECAUSE his story was finite, and his role in the MSQ limited. The character already had two encores; any more would jump the shark, because it would undermine the character and explored themes.
@@TheUndyingCrystal It would be hilarious if Hyth and Emet's voice actors did a let's play someday, not as themselves (that is, not playing their characters in game, but playing their characters WATCHING the game), but as if they were watching the WoL through his/her adventures and having a running commentary about the whole thing, lol
I love how Emet-Selch's voice sounds more like the Emet we know from ShB. Just a touch more theatrical and his eyes look a little more lazy, since this is him in his most present form. I finished this quest today and couldn't stop crying.
I cried many times in this game, most of them in Endwalker. This moment I had literal tears running down my face and that other moment with the slow walk to avoid spoilers. I am a 6'6 son of a coal miner, I grew up on a council estate and I cry tears of Joy and sorrow all the time in this game lol. Currently playing through from scratch on a 2nd account after a break of around 7 months and I know I will continue to cry my eyes out at this incredible masterpiece of a game they call Final Fantasy XIV.
Emet: Ugh, must I be manhandled by this brute of a woman? Hythlodaeus: Heh heh heh. You don’t seem to be struggling too hard to escape this… ahem… unseemly display. Emet: I suppose after all these millennia I’m finally resigned to my fate… ugh… you win… Azem…
that final speech of emit was legendary still kicking ass in the afterlife and call us out for being shortsighted and ignorant while giving us a hint of what is to come, 100/10
10:33 Feeling a spark of hope after nothing but despair for so long, I know that feeling. It hurts so much, but it is a good pain, all of your emotions rushing out in a flood of relief.
I wanted so much for my WoL to have a chuckle at Hythlodaeus and Hades' exchange after expressing the want for a reunion... and just give a gentle smile to them both.
I’ve got to this part recently and damn did I fan boy out when I heard Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus, and then teared up when my friends came back, I can’t wait to finish Endwalker
I was really hoping we'd resurrect them for a fight but we had already used them in a previous one :( I get the last trial having to be done with other players and not the NPC's but still
I like how Emet cheers us up at the end. This will be the closing to one story but there are so many more adventures out there for us, this is a new begining. >:Y then he had to ruin it by rubbing it in that he's been through all the next future expansion areas. I hope for the New World it's not just Aztecs but that they take inspiration from all Native American tribes.
This means that hopefully he becomes our narrator when we visit areas he has been to going forward. Though, Count Fortemps being the narrator for Heavensward was the best to me.
Why do i feel like we will also go to afterlife in some future expansion. I know it is a normal saying to say we will meet in next life but this is fantasy. They can make us go to next life but by not being dead.
@@lumbridgegoblin not really the warrior of light and company were in physical bodies going across a small part of the aetherial sea. All we got to see were echoes of a few of the souls there. The only time we got to directly interact with anyone in the sea was Minfillia when Hydealyn pulled the warriors aether/soul to her at the mother crystal since at that point her physical body was already gone. So technically we haven't yet (though there's enough hints that we haven't seen the last of at least Hythlodaeus).
10 more years of FFXIV means about 4 more expansion packs, I think. Of them, we have: -Othard's Northern Ice -The New World (please don't colonize) -Meracydia -The Southern Isles -Restoring the 13th/Void -Establishing travel between shards -Exploring other shards -Visiting the Aetherial/Afterlife -Struggles within the Eorzea Alliance and Garlemald's restoration -You can consider the travel between shards to be akin to the quest for Tempering - a likely multiple expansion effort of research and discovery, that in the end creates a vital tool for the penultimate storyline. -You can consider we will be visiting 2 main places each expansion (Gyr Abania & Othard, the First & Bozja/Werlyt, Ilsybard & Space), with strong hints to the New World and the Void for the next expansion. -After that, I imagine Meracydia, the Isles, and North Othard - possibly tying into some of the other shards. And ending with a struggle as various elements come to a head, that ends with something like visiting the Aetherial Sea/Afterlife. -There is also room for expanding on past or dropped story as well - from the War of the Magi (Amdapor, Mhach, & Nym), to Bozja, Ivalice, Ronka, and the shadows of civilizations on Ultima Thule...
There isn't really a typical afterlife in FF lore. Souls go to the eatherial sea when the host body dies and there it waits to be reincarnated again IIRC. And also adding an afterlife, especially if they allow ''adventurers'' to visit it would be terrible. Warcraft did that and it essentially made every character death at that point totally meaningless. Some things should just best left untouched.
Lalas are scary as hell. That thing the Roegadyn is tanking and still is only half it's size? Yeah...the lalafel not even as tall as the Roe's knee is taking those hits just as well. That, is, TERRIFYING. Just how strong and dense those popotos are is unheard of.
So seeing lots of photos from Fanfest which have gold statues and the special boss trial during the event is gold too. All of it made me remember 14:02 so I suspect 7.0 is going to have the New World as one of the locations.
This moment was the weirdest moment of all, sad being horrofied of the future and gaining new hoep at the same time endwalker was a fairytale, that went from destructing to consuming darkness and blooming to the door of new hope.
The true identities of the Twelve... check Fabled golden cities of the new world... (Dawntrail)... check I love how the devs went... okay, so our current story is ending... let us have our best written character give our players a preview of what is to come.
@@trial_with_an_error9687 the ruins beneath the waters of the bounty ...... (the MSQ part what startet as a treasure hunt and ended with the zero/Golbez Story) .... check So then will be remaining the treasure island blow the frozen waters of orthards north, Meracydia, and the rest of the reflections. .... way to go guys ^^
No. From my understanding whoever held the title of Azem after Venat (which is who our soul is sundered from) was pretty much Hades' (The title holder of Emet-Selch that we know) best friend. Hades is the one that made the memory crystal of that Azem and imbued it with that Azem's unique ability to summon allies to the field of battle, behind the convocation's back.
It's also implied that he was the only one who knew something was wrong the whole time. He knew that Azem could be the only one to undo the damage that Metieon caused and that the WoL was Azem's soul.
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I love that Emet sees how sad we are at them leaving again and appeals to our curiosity and love of adventure to keep us happy and going forward. “The future you fought for is not the past we loved.” Now he has given up on the past and is encouraging us to keep that spirit of a better future and not dwell on losing them. He has adopted the thinking the Scions had when we first confronted him and he has now become a scion, to me, and I really would like for him to come back to continue that evolution.
I don't think you should view him as a Scion per say. As Hythlodaeus said when speaking of Azem. "Whenever our friend calls for help, Emet always comes to their aid". You don't need to be a Scion for wanting to help one of your dearest friends.
I for one was glad to see him come as an ally. I was overjoyed when the two of them came out of the light. I was like "I knew it!" I was glad to see him as a villain in shadow ringers and as an ally in end walkers.
We’ll see him again not as he is now but an entirely different form, since reincarnation is a thing, we’ll be annoying his incarnate
13:40
When I reached this part, something about what Emet-Selch said in this part awakened a long line of thought in my head. Something I didn't even think about until this moment here.
It had me pondering for the past year and a half thinking what I'm even doing with my 9-6 job, and I'm honestly quite dissatisfied.
I then came to the conclusion that I should just explore the world more, seek bigger horizons. Meet new people. Find something worth living for. Roam the Earth and see what I can find for myself.
Though I may be hundreds of miles away from home now, I think I may have finally found true happiness in my life. Thanks, Emet-Selch. Your last words made me go on my own Dawntrail.
i love the way emet selch sounds like he's a high school teacher giving an end of the school year speech
Hythlodaeus... Most kind and selfless man. That's my hero in this game.
God. I'm actually angry that I wasn't given a dialogue option here with Emet-Selch (Hades)! I wanted to Sora him with a huge tackle-hug, calling out his name while crying and saying "Emet-Selch! I've missed you, you Tsundere bastard!"
** WARNING: Spoiler Comment for Shadowbringers & Endwalker Content **
Lmao. I love that Azem, Hythlodaeus, and Venat basically exist to torment Emet-Selch with their antics, tomfoolery, and mischief (very much in the same way our character interacts with and sometimes annoys our Scion companions). But I also love that as much as Emet-Selch groans and complains, he always puts up with it. Why? Well, it's partly because it's amusing and entertaining, to say the least, but two, because I'm fairly certain these were the only actual friends Emet-Selch ever had. Or at least, the only people who could put up with Emet-Selch.
For all Emet-Selch's posturing and moaning, I love how you can non-verbally see that Emet-Selch genuinely cares very deeply and often thinks about and worries about his friends. Not only that, he takes his role as "Emet-Selch," ruler of the Aethereal Sea (the Underworld) very seriously. He takes pride in it, his work, and his friends. As Hythlodaeus and Venat said in Elpis, it's because he cares deeply that he scolds and reticules them. It's because he worries (aside from the "Azem's" and Hythlodaeus, there was probably none that cared more deeply not only for his people, but for all the creations on the star and the star itself). He's very much "the parent" to the three, trying to teach them, look out for them, and wants the best for them. However, he doesn't coddle or spoil. He's very serious, direct, and to the point. But that's just part of his charms. He can be kind and sympathetic when need be, but he's trying to build you up to be stronger. But just as much as the other three needed Emet-Selch to keep them in line, Emet-Selch also needed them. Yes, he's very abrasive and prickly on the outside. But he's always been there for Azem, Hythlodaeus, and Venat whenever they needed him. He's never failed to assist them when they needed it. ...Is it then any wonder why Emet-Selch carried Azem's crystal with him on travels in memory of his friend? Why he despaired so greatly that he created a phantom Amaurot so that he could spend his time in it reminiscing of those halcyon days? Or why he poured more aether into creating a more complete and intelligent phantom Hythlodaeus for our character to interact with? And is it any wonder why throughout the entire Shadowbringers expansion, Emet-Selch went out of his way numerous times and tried desperately to revive the memories/soul/aether of his friend Azem that he saw in us, the Warrior of Light/Warrior of Darkness? Every time our character was overly sad in-game, Emet-Selch always cracked and helped us out or offered sage advice.
I know in Endwalker in Ultima Thule, Emet-Selch longs for his rest and says that he wants to be no part of a reunion should they all meet again in a new world/new life. However, if there was ONE character in this entire game (FFXIV) that I wish with all my heart we could revive and bring into the Scions as a companion, it would be Emet-Selch (Hades). It's almost downright criminal that we don't get more time with him accounting for how well his character was written and portrayed. FFXIV's Emet-Selch (Hades) is probably one of the most well-written and thought-out characters in any RPG. And I also love that it showcases that real-world people who aren't extroverted, aren't overly friendly or sociable, and who don't frequently use humor, and who are more serious and direct can still be phenomenal individuals whom you want around. Literally the definition of, "yes he's a witty sarcastic asshole, but I love him!" S-Tier all-around.
#FFXIV #FinalFantasy14 #Endwalker #EmetSelch #Hades #ReneZagger #NaokiYoshida
great write up my thoughts exactly
Can't help but disagree in the strongest possible terms. Emet-Selch is a good character BECAUSE his story was finite, and his role in the MSQ limited. The character already had two encores; any more would jump the shark, because it would undermine the character and explored themes.
@@eacaraxe and i cant help but disagree in the strongest terms with your disagreement
@DarkKeybladeMaster23 I can't help but agree, in the strongest possible terms, with your disagreement.... that is to say, I emphatically concur.
Yeah, I miss him.
Emet Statler and Hythlowaldorf offering their review of the whole story never fails to entertain.
See? I told you that Estinien would overpay for the Lassi! HOHOHOHOHOH
@@TheUndyingCrystal It would be hilarious if Hyth and Emet's voice actors did a let's play someday, not as themselves (that is, not playing their characters in game, but playing their characters WATCHING the game), but as if they were watching the WoL through his/her adventures and having a running commentary about the whole thing, lol
After Emet-Selch's poem at the end of his Tales from the Shadows entry "Ere Our Shadows Fall" his dialogue in this scene broke me lol
I love how Emet-Selch's voice sounds more like the Emet we know from ShB. Just a touch more theatrical and his eyes look a little more lazy, since this is him in his most present form. I finished this quest today and couldn't stop crying.
Everytime i watch this cutscene i keep tearing up!
Me too 😄
Same, even three months later I come back to it when I need a good cry.
I Dano how many months it’s been for me maybe almost a year. And I’m trying not to.
I cried many times in this game, most of them in Endwalker. This moment I had literal tears running down my face and that other moment with the slow walk to avoid spoilers. I am a 6'6 son of a coal miner, I grew up on a council estate and I cry tears of Joy and sorrow all the time in this game lol. Currently playing through from scratch on a 2nd account after a break of around 7 months and I know I will continue to cry my eyes out at this incredible masterpiece of a game they call Final Fantasy XIV.
Emets smile at the end was the last nail to my coffin of sorrow. I bawled like a child. bruh
I like to think Venat gave them both a big warm hug to where Emet Selch uncharacteristicly said "oh alright I admit it. I missed you too"
"Only a little. Don't get happy about it."
Emet: Ugh, must I be manhandled by this brute of a woman?
Hythlodaeus: Heh heh heh. You don’t seem to be struggling too hard to escape this… ahem… unseemly display.
Emet: I suppose after all these millennia I’m finally resigned to my fate… ugh… you win… Azem…
Too bad Venat is just completely gone.
I just love how sassy Emet is "wtf do you mean I HAVE to help"
that final speech of emit was legendary still kicking ass in the afterlife and call us out for being shortsighted and ignorant while giving us a hint of what is to come, 100/10
Its insane the amount of details that went into in a 16 minutes voiced story cutscene to justify Matchmaking
Damn when that music kicks in, every single fucking time 😭😭😭
The mood whiplash was intense.
I can't take a lalafel seriously.
Since arriving to Ultima Thule the feelings never end ,i woke up the neighbors with the excitement when this happened
10:33 Feeling a spark of hope after nothing but despair for so long, I know that feeling. It hurts so much, but it is a good pain, all of your emotions rushing out in a flood of relief.
I wanted so much for my WoL to have a chuckle at Hythlodaeus and Hades' exchange after expressing the want for a reunion... and just give a gentle smile to them both.
Meteion and Hermes' love is the most beautiful and precious thing this game has given us
I like how he went from not seeing us as truly alive to seeing us as the future of his people, or at least the descendants of them.
I’ve got to this part recently and damn did I fan boy out when I heard Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus, and then teared up when my friends came back, I can’t wait to finish Endwalker
I've never been so happy to see Emet-Selch :D
I was really hoping we'd resurrect them for a fight but we had already used them in a previous one :( I get the last trial having to be done with other players and not the NPC's but still
I like how Emet cheers us up at the end. This will be the closing to one story but there are so many more adventures out there for us, this is a new begining. >:Y then he had to ruin it by rubbing it in that he's been through all the next future expansion areas. I hope for the New World it's not just Aztecs but that they take inspiration from all Native American tribes.
This means that hopefully he becomes our narrator when we visit areas he has been to going forward.
Though, Count Fortemps being the narrator for Heavensward was the best to me.
@@Nempo13 sadly it would be played by another person if Count Fortemps was given a new role. His voice actor passed away during covid I believe :
Emet mother effing Selch is the best ff14 character ever, or ever will be.
He's the GOAT! Not only do I think he's the best character of FFXIV, but also the best character in all media that I know of.
This shit makes me cry no matter how many times I watch it
Why do i feel like we will also go to afterlife in some future expansion. I know it is a normal saying to say we will meet in next life but this is fantasy. They can make us go to next life but by not being dead.
didnt we already do that in this xpac tho? we have to go through it before visiting Venat i think
@@lumbridgegoblin not really the warrior of light and company were in physical bodies going across a small part of the aetherial sea. All we got to see were echoes of a few of the souls there. The only time we got to directly interact with anyone in the sea was Minfillia when Hydealyn pulled the warriors aether/soul to her at the mother crystal since at that point her physical body was already gone. So technically we haven't yet (though there's enough hints that we haven't seen the last of at least Hythlodaeus).
10 more years of FFXIV means about 4 more expansion packs, I think. Of them, we have:
-Othard's Northern Ice
-The New World (please don't colonize)
-Meracydia
-The Southern Isles
-Restoring the 13th/Void
-Establishing travel between shards
-Exploring other shards
-Visiting the Aetherial/Afterlife
-Struggles within the Eorzea Alliance and Garlemald's restoration
-You can consider the travel between shards to be akin to the quest for Tempering - a likely multiple expansion effort of research and discovery, that in the end creates a vital tool for the penultimate storyline.
-You can consider we will be visiting 2 main places each expansion (Gyr Abania & Othard, the First & Bozja/Werlyt, Ilsybard & Space), with strong hints to the New World and the Void for the next expansion.
-After that, I imagine Meracydia, the Isles, and North Othard - possibly tying into some of the other shards. And ending with a struggle as various elements come to a head, that ends with something like visiting the Aetherial Sea/Afterlife.
-There is also room for expanding on past or dropped story as well - from the War of the Magi (Amdapor, Mhach, & Nym), to Bozja, Ivalice, Ronka, and the shadows of civilizations on Ultima Thule...
There isn't really a typical afterlife in FF lore. Souls go to the eatherial sea when the host body dies and there it waits to be reincarnated again IIRC. And also adding an afterlife, especially if they allow ''adventurers'' to visit it would be terrible. Warcraft did that and it essentially made every character death at that point totally meaningless. Some things should just best left untouched.
Going into the afterlife while not being dead…otherwise known as “shadowlands-ing” it 😅
anyone know the name of the music at the start? i just heard it in the 6.3 msq and it immediately brought me back to this. absolute chills.
Heroes Forge Ahead?
I love these scenes, just cant take lalas seriously haha
Lalas are scary as hell. That thing the Roegadyn is tanking and still is only half it's size? Yeah...the lalafel not even as tall as the Roe's knee is taking those hits just as well. That, is, TERRIFYING. Just how strong and dense those popotos are is unheard of.
So seeing lots of photos from Fanfest which have gold statues and the special boss trial during the event is gold too. All of it made me remember 14:02 so I suspect 7.0 is going to have the New World as one of the locations.
And you are indeed correct as 7.0 just got revealed. FINAL FANTASY XIV: DAWNTRAIL.
Thank you for the time stamp! I knew I heard this before when I reached the final cutscene for Post Endwalker!
This moment was the weirdest moment of all, sad being horrofied of the future and gaining new hoep at the same time endwalker was a fairytale, that went from destructing to consuming darkness and blooming to the door of new hope.
12:52 this comment makes me wish the conclusion of the next group of expansions is that you turn to rejoin shards for some reason. XD
If God YoshiP allows it, we shall strive for a future that can be both past and future. Perhaps two reflections. 😉
13:43 I found you
Can't catch me !
The true identities of the Twelve... check
Fabled golden cities of the new world... (Dawntrail)... check
I love how the devs went... okay, so our current story is ending... let us have our best written character give our players a preview of what is to come.
Which means 8.0 will be Meracydia
@@trial_with_an_error9687 the ruins beneath the waters of the bounty ...... (the MSQ part what startet as a treasure hunt and ended with the zero/Golbez Story) .... check
So then will be remaining the treasure island blow the frozen waters of orthards north, Meracydia, and the rest of the reflections. .... way to go guys ^^
Did emet just admit has was azem?
No. From my understanding whoever held the title of Azem after Venat (which is who our soul is sundered from) was pretty much Hades' (The title holder of Emet-Selch that we know) best friend. Hades is the one that made the memory crystal of that Azem and imbued it with that Azem's unique ability to summon allies to the field of battle, behind the convocation's back.
No, he just meant that he expected Azem to do all the things he mentioned.
No, but since he made Azem's memory crystal, he was technically the bearer for a time
It's also implied that he was the only one who knew something was wrong the whole time. He knew that Azem could be the only one to undo the damage that Metieon caused and that the WoL was Azem's soul.