I salute every man on that submarine. You sacrificed yourselves so that others could live. You have my utmost respect, gratitude and appreciation for your service defending our nation. Thank you.
BZ! Another Crew on Eternal Patrol! Sailors, rest your oars. We have the watch. *s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
Anyone interested in the real story of the U.S.S. Grunion should read the Wikipedia article at least. There's much more to it than you would believe from this typical quicky local TV story. The U.S. Navy believes Grunion was lost due in part to defective torpedos. While attacking a Japanese cargo vessel in the Bering Sea off Kiska Island, three torpedoes failed to detonate and one made a "circular run" striking Grunion on the periscope support contributing to the loss of the ship and all hands. The story of defective torpedoes in the early years of WWII is one of the biggest scandals in the history of the U.S. Navy.
What an amazing story..Its really refreshing knowing that there are many who still think and truly care about our history as well as our hero's...Thanks for posting this story...
Anyone interested in the real story of the U.S.S. Grunion should read the Wikipedia article at least. There's much more to it than you would believe from this typical quicky local TV story. The U.S. Navy believes Grunion was lost due in part to defective torpedos. While attacking a Japanese cargo vessel in the Bering Sea off Kiska Island, three torpedoes failed to detonate and one made a "circular run" striking the Grunion in the periscope support but not detonating contributing to the loss of the ship and all hands. The story of defective torpedoes in the early years of WWII is one of the biggest scandals in the history of the U.S. Navy.
The Wikipedia article certainly doesn't describe a suicide mission so others may survive. I guess when the relatives are telling the story, there will always be bias. As you say, the early American torpedo issues and the indifference by the Bureau of Ordnance is just a staggering story in itself.
G'day Dale, I totally agree with you. Although well-known and publicised through dozens of military documentaries. The faulty, 'dud' US torpedoes issued at the first part of America's war against Japan, was a technological and administrative disgrace. Naturally, submarine captains and their immediate superiors reported the repeated failure of these torpedoes right from the beginning of submarine warfare in the North and South Pacific. The USN's Submarine high-command and the logistics command should have pounced on the problem immediately. Why this didn't happen is still, to this day, a matter of disagreement and controversy. Vice President Harry Truman's committee did outstanding work stamping out money wasting and corruption across all government departments and civilian contractors/suppliers, yet, I can find no records of the Truman Committee looking into these faulty torpedoes. (There are, to be fair, thousands of documents not available electronically and I am not able to travel to the US to follow this up). Some American historians/researchers should work on this topic because it cost untold numbers of American lives. I suppose the Navy did all they could and did come up with better ordinance for submarines but many think this took way too long. RIP to all those concerned. BH
Ahh yes the Mk 14 torpedo....plagued with issues with its firing pin, magnetic detonator and its running depth due to crappy testing practices. Many MK 10 torpedo's that the Sugar Boats (1918 Vintage S class sub) fired were used as despite being more primitive and had limited range...it was far more reliable. The Circular running problem was caused when the torps gyro got stuck. The BuOrd were in charge of Weapons development.
@@BillHalliwell And all that is gonna solve what problem we're gonna bring who up on charges. I don't understand why you want cause problems leave it lay .
For Shipmates gone but not Forgotten Stand down now good and faithful servants. Your long watch is over. We have the Conn now. Go rest high on that mountain brothers. Be at ease, Rest in Honored Peace. Go forth and war no more. God's Speed and God bless. Prayers for your families and friends. Prayers for those still on watch. Fair Winds and Following Seas Brothers. And one more time this old Doc whispers, Semper Fi........
The saddest part is torpedoes in the beginning of the war were pieces Shit. That sub fired a torpedo and it malfunctioned and it circled back towards the sub striking a support brace that was attached the periscope and lucky it failed to explode, the torpedoes was just one of many covered up lies on lots of equipment failure. Thank you for his service and all the men who served as well, Semper Fi
An amazing story and a tribute to the dedication and never ending quest to pay respect and tell the story of those who sacrificed themselves so others could live. Sadly very few of us today possess that quality of self sacrifice. Another tribute to the greatest American generation we have ever known. Thank you!
What a great, but also very sad story, these guys as with so many in war gave their lives selflessly, we should be very honoured to salute these guys, hopefully to also steer us better away from conflict in the future. Thanks for sharing this....
There is a Japanese sub in 600 feet of water in Dutch Harbor that may have had something to do with the loss of this sub. Just a little more history for you.
When I was working out of Dutch, we had a chance to walk through many of the abandoned WW2 relics, fortified positions and underground forts. That was back in 89, but it was crazy how much stuff looked like it was just walked away from, left to rot and decay. There is a ton of WW2 history throughout the Aleutians, Dutch had so much stuff to go look at. It is too bad it is slowly being lost to the elements.
People should take time to read and honor these men that gave there lives to protect others . Not just US. Citizens but others that we try to protect and help. Just take some time to visit these memorials, don't just walk by,. It is your history of who and what we as a free Nation stand for. Thank God for those who have sacrificed so much. I am not saying we as a Nation are right. It's just that we do what we think is right at the time. That is left to history to determine. War is Hell . Just because a few elite people have a difference that they can not reconcile there citizens have to pay with there lives. All any human what ever race or nationality wants is to be left alone to live the way they want. Just look at your world right now! People are afraid to go anywhere, WHY? Because of all the hope over a virus that was manufactured.
Thank you for this moving report. I'm ex-ADF, a military historian and writer. From what I have learned about the effects of sudden, deep dives by submarines and then looking closely at the footage from the '52 Project' and other sources, I think I'm pretty much correct in saying that although the crew knew they were diving too fast and that this was a dire situation; this type of 'full-length implosion’ of the inner pressure structure means that those brave submariners perished in seconds with a minimum of suffering. Most experts say that this type of damage is one that crews may never even have had time to register. This may provide surviving relatives some form of solace, I truly hope it does. RIP. BH For the definitive answer to the USS Grunion mystery sinking see: www.navsource.org/archives/08/08216.htm
Unique story to be sure... Grunions sister ship, USS Grayback (SS-208) was also found by Lost 52... I had a brother on that boat... May they all RIP on 'eternal patrol.'
Guys this is supposed to be a story about a submarine that was lost and now found. And you guys are complaining pitch and weinen bellyache about a problem with a torpedo 75 years ago. No amount of complaining no amount of problem solving nor mount of anything Valley a can is going to solve any problems.
they knew what happened... there were japanese records of exactly how the battle went ffs. how does it help knowing exactly where the sub landed on the bottom?
I salute every man on that submarine. You sacrificed yourselves so that others could live. You have my utmost respect, gratitude and appreciation for your service defending our nation. Thank you.
How can you give a thumbs down for this video!? This is a fantastic story. I hold Sub Sailors in the highest regard.
To the silent service: brave crews who risked it all. for Victory
Thank.you. 1941- 1945.
BZ! Another Crew on Eternal Patrol! Sailors, rest your oars. We have the watch.
*s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
No greater friend. They saved so many at the sacrifice of their lives. Semper Fi.
Anyone interested in the real story of the U.S.S. Grunion should read the Wikipedia article at least. There's much more to it than you would believe from this typical quicky local TV story. The U.S. Navy believes Grunion was lost due in part to defective torpedos. While attacking a Japanese cargo vessel in the Bering Sea off Kiska Island, three torpedoes failed to detonate and one made a "circular run" striking Grunion on the periscope support contributing to the loss of the ship and all hands. The story of defective torpedoes in the early years of WWII is one of the biggest scandals in the history of the U.S. Navy.
The Grunion and her crew are what submariners call, On Eternal Patrol.
wow the reward you get for dying is eternal slave labor for the Navy ? despicable !
These are the stories that make me proud I was a USN sailor.
What an amazing story..Its really refreshing knowing that there are many who still think and truly care about our history as well as our hero's...Thanks for posting this story...
May God rest their souls and comfort the relatives of those who were lost protecting our freedom.
Anyone interested in the real story of the U.S.S. Grunion should read the Wikipedia article at least. There's much more to it than you would believe from this typical quicky local TV story. The U.S. Navy believes Grunion was lost due in part to defective torpedos. While attacking a Japanese cargo vessel in the Bering Sea off Kiska Island, three torpedoes failed to detonate and one made a "circular run" striking the Grunion in the periscope support but not detonating contributing to the loss of the ship and all hands. The story of defective torpedoes in the early years of WWII is one of the biggest scandals in the history of the U.S. Navy.
The Wikipedia article certainly doesn't describe a suicide mission so others may survive. I guess when the relatives are telling the story, there will always be bias. As you say, the early American torpedo issues and the indifference by the Bureau of Ordnance is just a staggering story in itself.
G'day Dale, I totally agree with you. Although well-known and publicised through dozens of military documentaries. The faulty, 'dud' US torpedoes issued at the first part of America's war against Japan, was a technological and administrative disgrace.
Naturally, submarine captains and their immediate superiors reported the repeated failure of these torpedoes right from the beginning of submarine warfare in the North and South Pacific. The USN's Submarine high-command and the logistics command should have pounced on the problem immediately. Why this didn't happen is still, to this day, a matter of disagreement and controversy.
Vice President Harry Truman's committee did outstanding work stamping out money wasting and corruption across all government departments and civilian contractors/suppliers, yet, I can find no records of the Truman Committee looking into these faulty torpedoes. (There are, to be fair, thousands of documents not available electronically and I am not able to travel to the US to follow this up).
Some American historians/researchers should work on this topic because it cost untold numbers of American lives. I suppose the Navy did all they could and did come up with better ordinance for submarines but many think this took way too long. RIP to all those concerned. BH
Ahh yes the Mk 14 torpedo....plagued with issues with its firing pin, magnetic detonator and its running depth due to crappy testing practices. Many MK 10 torpedo's that the Sugar Boats (1918 Vintage S class sub) fired were used as despite being more primitive and had limited range...it was far more reliable. The Circular running problem was caused when the torps gyro got stuck. The BuOrd were in charge of Weapons development.
@Jyral Nadreth They initially tested exactly one under ideal conditions. It worked so they went into production.
@@BillHalliwell And all that is gonna solve what problem we're gonna bring who up on charges. I don't understand why you want cause problems leave it lay .
RIP all those brave submariners.
Thank you so very much for all those who gave so unselfishly
For Shipmates gone but not Forgotten
Stand down now good and faithful servants. Your long watch is over. We have the Conn now. Go rest high on that mountain brothers. Be at ease, Rest in Honored Peace. Go forth and war no more. God's Speed and God bless. Prayers for your families and friends. Prayers for those still on watch. Fair Winds and Following Seas Brothers.
And one more time this old Doc whispers,
Semper Fi........
I have an uncle I never knew on eternal patrol. First-generation American.
Rip.3id 466 armor/3/4cav.
Disappeared around 70 years ago. Poor guys who went down into the cold dark water far from home. The world looks to be bigger than i thought.
Cheers an much respect and thanks to these 52 men who fought bravely as warriors for our America. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
R.I.P. to the crew of the Grunion!! Your sacrifice has not been in vain to save many lives!!
Fair winds and Following Seas shipmates.
The saddest part is torpedoes in the beginning of the war were pieces Shit. That sub fired a torpedo and it malfunctioned and it circled back towards the sub striking a support brace that was attached the periscope and lucky it failed to explode, the torpedoes was just one of many covered up lies on lots of equipment failure. Thank you for his service and all the men who served as well, Semper Fi
An amazing story and a tribute to the dedication and never ending quest to pay respect and tell the story of those who sacrificed themselves so others could live. Sadly very few of us today possess that quality of self sacrifice. Another tribute to the greatest American generation we have ever known. Thank you!
What a great, but also very sad story, these guys as with so many in war gave their lives selflessly, we should be very honoured to salute these guys, hopefully to also steer us better away from conflict in the future. Thanks for sharing this....
There is a Japanese sub in 600 feet of water in Dutch Harbor that may have had something to do with the loss of this sub. Just a little more history for you.
When I was working out of Dutch, we had a chance to walk through many of the abandoned WW2 relics, fortified positions and underground forts. That was back in 89, but it was crazy how much stuff looked like it was just walked away from, left to rot and decay. There is a ton of WW2 history throughout the Aleutians, Dutch had so much stuff to go look at. It is too bad it is slowly being lost to the elements.
No harder job in war than a submariner.
People should take time to read and honor these men that gave there lives to protect others . Not just US. Citizens but others that we try to protect and help. Just take some time to visit these memorials, don't just walk by,. It is your history of who and what we as a free Nation stand for. Thank God for those who have sacrificed so much. I am not saying we as a Nation are right. It's just that we do what we think is right at the time. That is left to history to determine. War is Hell . Just because a few elite people have a difference that they can not reconcile there citizens have to pay with there lives. All any human what ever race or nationality wants is to be left alone to live the way they want. Just look at your world right now! People are afraid to go anywhere, WHY? Because of all the hope over a virus that was manufactured.
True heroes. Fantastic.
Tough to see the aft torpedo compartment collapsed like that. The Lost 52 Project is doing great work. Big thanks to them.
Heroes. Their family rescued them.
And by the way they're real and they're spectacular!
Thank you for this moving report. I'm ex-ADF, a military historian and writer. From what I have learned about the effects of sudden, deep dives by submarines and then looking closely at the footage from the '52 Project' and other sources, I think I'm pretty much correct in saying that although the crew knew they were diving too fast and that this was a dire situation; this type of 'full-length implosion’ of the inner pressure structure means that those brave submariners perished in seconds with a minimum of suffering. Most experts say that this type of damage is one that crews may never even have had time to register. This may provide surviving relatives some form of solace, I truly hope it does. RIP. BH
For the definitive answer to the USS Grunion mystery sinking see: www.navsource.org/archives/08/08216.htm
Unique story to be sure... Grunions sister ship, USS Grayback (SS-208) was also found by Lost 52... I had a brother on that boat... May they all RIP on 'eternal patrol.'
Thanks for posting. Americans owe a lot to that generation.
The USS Grunion and many other USN submarines were fighting with faulty torpedos. One of these caused her demise. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grunion
They did exactly what Captain Evans and the USS Johnston did for Taffy 3....I hope the Grunnion crew were decorated appropriately for their actions
"Of all the branches of men in the forces there is none which shows more devotion and faces grimmer perils than the submariners." Winston Churchill.
Fair winds and following seas.
Looks like it took too much damage to level out in a crash dive. Still, glad another lost ship was found.
He looks just like his grandad
World wars history in past is a good lesson for all of us today! War=loss
They have come home.
Heroes, all of them.
Land of the free, because of the Brave! For those in peril on the sea. Thank you!
Never knew how close the war was to Alaska...
"Fair winds and following seas.
Job well done sailors, rest your oars."
Fallen but not forgotten
How come that's never been reported before
There was never any mention of this on the history of ww2 and it's really is something that should of been included
They held the line by themselves.
Out of the missing 52, how many are still lost...
What is the fire constantly roaring in the background, looks like propane?
I just love that Fake look on the bubble headed news fluzzy!
Guys this is supposed to be a story about a submarine that was lost and now found. And you guys are complaining pitch and weinen bellyache about a problem with a torpedo 75 years ago. No amount of complaining no amount of problem solving nor mount of anything Valley a can is going to solve any problems.
During WW2 many such tragedies took place on both sides , they are dead , God rest their souls , we are alive and we must move on and get over .
Leave it down there and respect the grave.
Under maritime law it is consider a war grave and should not be disturbed.
There was no mystery. They knew the sub was sunk during the battle.
All that story and the actual depth isn’t mentioned.
There is no closure. Such a misused word.
Wow after 80 years the Navy is still getting free labor out of them for 'patrol'? give these men a break !
When 13 years old in poor innerr city shoe shine boy snock into the b
they knew what happened... there were japanese records of exactly how the battle went ffs.
how does it help knowing exactly where the sub landed on the bottom?
The families of those who died now know exactly where their loved ones' grave is. It's called "closure".
@@philperry4699 thought closure was knowing how they died... it's more than a lot of people got.