A TYRANID PLANET KILLER? LEVIATHAN'S MYSTERIOUS WEAPON!
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2023
- Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're discussing a new mysterious sighting amongst Hive Fleet Leviathan... How the Tyranids could have a new and even more monstrous weapon yet to be revealed...
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The fact that the Tyranids have been able to construct such a thing is worrying, if they have managed to construct it in another galaxy then what else is coming?
Tiamat's mysterious structure reminds me quite a bit of how the Zerg turned Kerrigan into the Queen of Blades.
Could be a Tyranid Ark Mechanicus. A portable bio-forgeworld
Or a norn craft/ planet devoured and bio-forge all in one
I think it’s just a huge planet sized organism
To what end tho? The tyranids are nothing if not efficient with how they expend their bio-mass. Every unit they deploy returns to the acid pools once its objective has been captured
They are Tyranid resort facilities. All work and no play has been hurting Tyranid morale
Perhaps in order to control the vast forces that the Tyranids are bringing into the galaxy the hive mind needs an upgrade. This could be the heart of their command and control that will better co-ordinate the actions of the tendrils.
I suspect the Tyranids are starting to settle into the galaxy as long term residents instead of simply grazing. The Hive Mind is building forms that will enable the long term harvesting of warp energy and other occupational necessities to build new fleets to expand into other galaxies
I wonder if it isn't something to counter one of their weaknesses in space. They're slow, as they aren't Warp capable. The idea of this thing being able to drag the hive fleets through the Warp is horrifying. SOMEWHAT less awful is if this thing exists to support space combat, which is where the hive fleets are their most vulnerable.
My take is that after being interfered with by the psychic awakening caused by the great rift which ruined their plan to raze Baal, the Tyranid decided that they need something to disrupt Chaos incursions even more effectively.
@@minhducnguyen9276 I like the concept, but I don't know if that's the most terrifying thing from the standpoint of the Imperium.
@@LetholdusKaspyr Unless it can do many things at once. Much like the zoanthropes and maleceptors psychic powers can be used effectively against both imperial armors and deamons, I can't see why this thing can't zap ships out of the warp. There are cases of Orks using weird boyz to force imperial ships translate into real space. I don't see why the Tyranids can't do the same at a larger scale especially when they have already done that.
@@minhducnguyen9276 I think this is definitely an interesting idea, but I think/hope we would be getting reports of this vessel in the Kronos fleet if that were the case. That would honestly be way more interesting to me as well - sometimes I get a little tired of Leviathan being the central focus seemingly to the exclusion of all of others. I use to rationalize this as GW leaving other fleets open for players to create their own story, but after so long it starts to feel like they are just nervous about giving the Tyranids more "screen time" since it is difficult to write novels from their perspective. Jormungandr and Tiamat deserve way more focus than they have gotten in the last decade!
Then along comes the Lion and his bodyguard the plot armour.
The giant planet killer could be GWs version of OM-1 from Starship Troopers 3.
The planet that was the giant bug brain.
A tyranid Unicron. That would be awesome
I love how easy you mentioned Unicron right in the moment my brain told me the same! I love that movie.
"It is a pity you autobots die so easly!"
With this build up, I hope we get the League of Voltan getting into the fray at last
LoV vs T would have some serious dwarf vs skaven vibes from classic.
@@mattfox2716 Aye, that would be awesome indeed. Skaven vs Dwarf narratives were always some of my favorite!
I have a feeling it could either be as you said a planet harvester or a giant bioforge, being able to build new hive ships within the galaxy. I have a feeling, the Imperium won’t have a choice, but to find common cause with the Necrons, and to awaken more tomb worlds. The Necrons realistically, are the only beings that have the capability to deal with the Tyranids. Chaos will also eventually have no choice but to focus their attention on the Tyranids, especially if they start closing warp rifts across the galaxy. Eventually, the races of the galaxy will have to focus all their might against the Tyranids, otherwise they are all doomed.
Tyranids: “how can we win a stalemate like octarius faster next time?… swallow planets whole?”
It's a portal to the other tyranid galaxies
it's the McGuffin that will eventually halt the Tyrranids progression allowing for a proper 10 more years of stalemate.
Painfully accurate.
One thought that sticks in my mind is "Planet Eater". Something large enough to engulf a planet like an amoeba, smother and absorb any resistance with a wall of adaptive biomass, and spit out whatever's left before Exterminatus can be delivered.
The idea that the CHAOS gods haven't turned their attention to the bugs 100%. Is just nuts to me.
Girly Boy should just throw the Angel of Destruction at the bugs
Going off the title I thought shouldn't that be a planet eater?
My suspicion is that it's actually going to be a weakness. The Imperium provably cannot stop this threat, and so GW is going to give the Tyrannids an achiles' heel with some form of mega synapse creature that, if slain, will cause whole tendrils to be cut off from the hive mind.
I think it's a command and control node. A way for the hivemind to nullify the emperor's power, like an amplifier for the shadow in the warp, the opposite of the astronomicon
“That’s no moon, it’s a Tyranid bio ship!”
“It’s too big to be a bio ship!”
An Adeptus Astartes Librarian and Captain… probably.
Guilliman is going to have to postpone his planned offensive into the Pariah Nexus to deal with Leviathan. Even if the Lion can forestwalk across the rift, he can’t take a legion with him.
A thought: what would happen if the Tyranids devoured a lot of Blackstone and wanted to grow something special with it…?
He took twelve people with him at one point in the awful book that introduced that power. That's enough to be a major factor, if he picks some of the setting's most powerful people to go with him.
Nah he's gonna have to hurry it up if anything he needs to push the imperium out of its encirclement
Who says he can't take a legion with him?
@@DougieMonster31
His book. He can only take around a dozen people physically close to him when he uses his power.
@@danielbob2628
12 people isn’t a legion.
Man, a video on unicron would be epic.
I think it's some kind of mechanical combat system to defend the feeding hive fleet.
Personally I think it will be a ‘command’ vessel for the Leviathan tendril. It wouldn’t shock me if it contained a tyranid Primarch power equivalent.
I can honestly see this saga ending in a show down between either the Lion or Guilliman and the Tyranid Primarch equivalent.
I really don't want it to be a "planet eater" honestly. In the same sort of way that a true Dyson Sphere is actually less materially efficient than a Dyson swarm, it would be really dumb to have a planet sized bioship dedicated to just swallowing planets whole. Completely off the wall theory that is more of a desperate wish than anything else: It's a bio-equivalent to a tesseract vault, but instead of just restraining and leeching from a Ctan, the Tyranids are trying to figure out a way to wholly digest and incorporate a Ctan into the swarm. I really want to see more xenos on xenos interactions - and I think it would give fantastic narrative opportunities to see potentially new dynasties suddenly emerging to prominence on a new front not because of the Silent King mobilizing them - but rather because they are terrified at the idea of a Ctan re-emerging as something worse than they were even during the War in Heven.
I painfully crave something more unique than the big bad eaty thing became more big more bad and more eaty. And I say this as someone who's favorite faction is the Tyranids! Simply making this a planet killing biovessel would just be too much ork flavoring.
I think its the hive mind or a tyranid primarch in the making
New Tyranid rule.
Don't land on Ork planets. Eat them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Perhaps it is an 'egg'. When a certain level of success in bio-mass accumulation occurs, they form an egg that births another Hive fleet in order to take advantage of the resources they can consume without direct competition.
My first thought was that it was a or THE psykic being that controls them, like the Overmind or a cerebrate(mini-overminds, that have freewill, but are obedient) for the Zerg.
Perhaps a setup for some epic story to diminish the tyranid threat once and for all (only for a new "overmind" to show up later, when things were getting too easy for the Imperium.
I'd be glad to hear if you agree, or disagree. If you disagree, feel free to tell my why I'm wrong.
I agree, I think it make more sense that super-weapons since, Tyranids are already super-weapons...
Turns out its the Rock, with the entire Dark Angel legion with a steel chair breaching the immaterium coming to exterminate the Imperiums bug problem!
Now I’m imagining it eating a planet like a giant cookie or burger.
Whenever I hear "Planet Killer" I keep thinking of Abbadon's old flagship.
When you said you had new info from a new white dwarf I thought this would be more than theory crafting about 2 year old info lol.
Moon sized spore mine !!!
I’m now imagining the 40k end times. Both the new tyranid planet killer and Vashtorr’s Wyrmwood hang in the skies above Terra, all 3 battling for the fate of the galaxy
A Tyranid unicorn would be scary as hell lol loving the call back to the 80s but yeah watching this video made me think about the Tyranids in general in the 40k universe they are meant to be this massive threat who knows how many galaxies they have actually conquered have game's workshop written themselves into a dead end so this planet killer Tyranid bioform I don't think is a planet killer as like we would think but perhaps like you said a planet harvester maybe rather than risking load's of biomass trying to take a heavily defended world maybe this is their answer to that to just overwhelm a planet with one super large Tyranid creature which would make sense plus it could also be a double edge sword having all that biomass in one place if it was too be defeated then that would be a massive blow to the Tyranid force's which could be game's workshop answer to How to write a way in the lore how the Tyranids could be beaten back once and for all great video really interesting cheers for the upload
Imagine if the Tyranids could make an organism so big it could eat a planet whole lol
You got the touch. You got the power! Its a unicron
aaaaah yes good ol Rodimus Prime, the most hated transformer in the history of its publication.
When you finished your coffee and croissant did you put the white dwarf back on the shelf 😂😂😂😂
Tyranid bigfoot confirmed
Kind of reminds me a flood gravemind from halo. Destroy it and maybe a large amount of nids lose access to hivemind.
indeed makes no sense to be a food storage, nor a beacon... but I don't think is a doomsday weapon either ... the Tyranids don't need such a weapon since you do not want to destroy what you plan to use as feeding ground, also speeding up the feeding would not work either since, well a big ship will itself become a target for "Exterminatus" weapons... No. I think we just witnessed leviathan's master, the controlling unit for the entire leviathan hive fleet and the hub connecting all its tendrils to the overall hive-mind...
I'm hoping this is the wolf time, and russ comes back!
Arblus look, its Unicron!
Maybe it could be a birthing ship with the norn queen. Birthing new creatures and bioships
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS... 🤔🤨
Thinking about it logically the food storage is the better option... sure the vast majority of the tyranids would be asleep during the intergalactic voyage but some are still going to have to be awake to plot the travels... to note any lone stars in the void that could be worth harvesting... to make sure the vast majority of the fleet doesnt stray from the path from any kind of hazard that may change their trajectory etc... those that are still awake are going to need a shit tonne of food because that trip is going to take them millions of years... also while they are in suspended animation that doesnt mean they dont need a limited amount of sustinence to maintain viablity to be woken at the end of the voyage... and finally when they tyranids got to where they were going they wouldnt know if it would be hostile straight away so they would want a food reserve to kick off the invasion and produce enough troops to gain a foothold...
The Zerg and Tyranids are basically the same thing. If they follow the way zerg works it could be a hive mind "expansion node." Assuming they put more thought into it than that, it could be a ship birthing facility. Big ships need big wombs after all. If it is a giant bioforge then they could bring in trillions from one that size. It would park in orbit serve as a defense station while launching billions of bioforms on the planet for as long as it takes.
As a fan of Starcraft and an individual who played A LOT of Starcraft in his late teens and early 2000's, Starcraft ripped off Game Workshop's ideas. End of story... Terran = Space Marines, Zerg = Nids, Protoss = Eldar..
@@Hmongboi228and games workshop lifted a lot of it from starship troopers, and dune amongst other sources. As they say imitation is the purest form of flattery.
Starcraft was developed as a 40k game. It wasn't until it was in the middle of development that GW cancelled the operation and Blizzard changed a few things around. @@Hmongboi228
We need someone to play Stan Bush while an Imperial Saint obliterates a whole Hive Fleet attacking a planet with the Light of the Emperor overwhelming the Tyranid Hive Mind
A planet killer doesn't seem viable to the nids honestly. But the concept of a Major Synapse Organism to have multiple functions would be more terrifying. Devour a planet in one gulp. Deploy the hive fleets more effectively and overwhelm the Imperial Navy. I'm thinkin Necron World Engine vibes......but Nid mode.
Ravenguard vanguard spotting the enemy
What it is is 24.99 paperback and 30.99 hardcover
Danny Fortuna is the gatekeeper
He will have already reinforced the whole sector already with what he had and will be well on the way with more stuff to strengthen the sector
Random question for someone who’s new to this, are grey knights or inquisitors more powerful?
Its like dead space its the hungering moon.
It could be a Mega hive... it births hive ships.... probably has a massive Shadow of the warp aura...and a Death Star Psychic blast....
That's no moon!
Its the hive mind.
Games workshop needs a way for the imperium to win.
So borg queen the tyranids.
Sadly, yeah, seems the most likely.
Imperium my Renegade 4th Legion grand company is helping with the bug problem if you see us can you just look away lol
Raven guard reported, Unicron nids..... ARISE CORAX PRIME
erm.. what is that 1st art displayed? Not-Roboutte with a flaming sword? Are Mars just making Emperor's Swords off the manufacturing line now? lol
Light our darkest hour.
For the most part i love where 40k is. I want the Primaries to return , i want to see some things updated/ made better. But! i want to see things be worse, i want to see something like the great crusade but where they are losing it.
I'll take 2nd🤷🏾♂️😅
Maybe it's the equivalent to an orc rock
The brother moon rises...
It's the home planet of Leviathan hive fleet.
the giant hive ship is probably just lazy writing. an unimaginative writer will always resort to "make it bigger" when trying to up the stakes.
otherwise i like to think that its a anti chaos weapon. something to push back demons, which is a real problem for them now.
Why does everyone keep saying Tragian Valoris beat the Norn Emissary 1 on 1. The Emissary killed a dozen Custodies simply getting to Valoris ... at the very least it's 1 on 13, that's not counting anyone else who died.
Maybe it’s a control brain that it is laviathin
What if it’s the Hive Mind itself?
Or is it a way for them to place donimates over the other hives and assimilate them as well like the one already cannabalistic one forget its name or a weapon to take out terra once and for all just hope it doesn't have sycic abilities as well
The reason I say other hives is because they all seem different so I don't think there a singular hive mind and don't fight unless they have to
That’s no moon it’s a space station!
Perhaps some sort of folded up blanket that covers a whole planet and sucked it dry 😂
the norn emissary introduction was terrible, theyre set up as these super dangerous monsters but theres three of them, which immediately makes them less dangerous than a singular creature....and then all three fail to achieve their objectives, and die in the process. theyre not exactly terror inspiring are they?
I've been interested in hive fleet #teimat, have my nids painted in a splinter fleet. And was wondering where they were. So east side? What space marines are close to them? Can you please do a vid on them. I wish to flesh out my lore on my nids / new marines. Thanks.
Bah weep granah weep ninnibon
I am going to say it's the core of the hive mind the. Original/ primary brain for the whole race.
Only heretics mention the name Rodimus in such a way...
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I don’t think it is a planet killer
Your idea is close but it may be missing a very vital mark.
Tyranids are weak when feeding.
Yes.
And this is a solution to that weakness… more specifically that weakness in a very specific circumstance.
When they make it to Terra, do you think that will be a average feeding point?
No. It has beyond billions of people, beyond dozens of levels of surfaces, and still the entire imperium there on call.
When it gets there this ship will be vital to strip Terra of life.
It is a planet killer, a very costly one… but ‘A’ in ‘a planet killer’ only applies to 1 planet in mind of it’s creation.
Am I the only person who gets audio issues from the channel only ?
Rodimus Prime was an abomination and you know it!😂
That's no moon.
Bioship builder
the imperium is losing for the last 10.000 years lol . nothing new
Nids got the idea from Ork roks but they made it planet sized - tin foil hat theory
Its a brain bug
#unicronifex
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Maybe its a hivemind?
Maybe it births new bio ships? We haven't seen how they're actually made?
So far it looks like all nid ships can give birth in response to near by ships being destroyed. The hive mind orders it to spawn a new ship. However it takes time for the new ship to be combat ready and takes the original out of commission for a time . But it is possible that this new thing does make ships but more quick and no loss of combat strength
Tyranids can make ships on site as long as they have the materials. I don't see why would they need something bigger to build ships. Unless they want a dedicated shipyard to build faster.
Another lazy writing from Gw.