3 Keys To POOL CIRCULATION And RETURN JET Flow | Swim University
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- Good pool circulation and pool return jet flow is a crucial part of keeping your pool water clean and clear. And bad water circulation means your water can quickly become stagnant and grow algae. Luckily all it takes for good pool circulation is the right pool return jet placement and some simple pool filter maintenance.
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â° Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Pool Circulation and Pool Return Jet Flow
00:25 - How Does Pool Circulation Work?
01:06 - Position Your Pool Return Jets Properly
01:34 - How To Aim Your Pool Return Jets
02:22 - What If Return Jets Aren't Working Well?
02:41 - Keep Filter System Clean And Running
03:30 - How Long Should You Run Your Filter?
03:57 - Clean "Dead" Areas
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So I have an above ground pool and my skimmer is to the left of my return so do I still point my return jet towards the skimmer?
Can a pump to above ground pool be raised to the same height or just below the out flow to the pump
Love this! Makes so much sense!
Thx Matt!!!!! You're my go to when it come to taking care of my pool!!!! Much appreciated!!! keep up the great work!!!!
Fantastic info! I'm a new pool owner and this helped out a ton. Thank you!
Very nice video! Direct to the point! Thanks
Thank you!
Great video thanks!
Great explanation, thanks! đ
I just got my pool running in this video was very helpful
Love your videos, thank you so much
How do you know how strong the jet flows are supposed to be? The jet flow strength seems to be coming out as if you were to turn on a sink faucet halfway
New salt pool owner AND NEW SUBSCRIBER!!! Thank you! Thank you!! Awesome video: short and to the point!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks. New pool owner đ€đœ
Nice thanks for video
My pool is 30 years old. Its an 18x36 with 2 jets and a skimmer all on the same wall. It has a jet about 3 feet from both end walls. Which way should my jets be positioned? I cannot seem to get much of the debris into the skimmer. Thanks
If you have a cuda hooked up at a return ,would it burn the pump up if you took it out ,even if you had poor or no circulation during pump operation for two weeks prior to pulling the cuda ? My friend is trying blame me for the pump ,says it's my fault ,because I pulled the cuda out, but there was little or no circulation for over 2 weeks ?
Is it possible to turn one eyeball return into two with a Y adaptor or something?
I am brand new to owning a pool. I bought a house with one. It's an inground pool and it has 2 jets that keep the water moving and the drain in the bottom. There are also several places where there are these white tubes that extend and when I open a valve seem to be a sort of jet themselves. Do you know anything about these?
I have the inlet valve quite close to the skimmer in the deep end. When sweeping the muck gets blown back to the shallow end and it seems the current is just going from the inlet to the skimmer and is directed up to the surface. This is how the pool company have done it and it canât be right. Thereâs no circular current to enable the skimmer to work. I canât seem to move the direction of flow and scared to break something. Iâve got muck on the surface of the pool despite using a net and muck at the bottom all he time.
I've had my inground pool for 19 years. I never could figure out the Jet placements. This is the first video I've seen that easily helped! Thank You!
Glad it helped!
Me too
how much the cost of felter set including pump, thks
Do you have videos for 900 gallon pools ?
Do a video on pool covers like the pvc ones
Another great video! I have a 15 by 30 oval with one return and skimmer is only about 18 in away, should I face it down towards the skimmer or down away from the skimmer?
Away
Away to circulate if you point it towards the skimmer then you just blowing debris back to your pool and not into skimmer
Do you have a link/ recommendations for adjustable return jets nozzles? My pool only has non-adjustable return jets+ a fountain
Many jets that appear non-adjustable are just frozen in mid position. Even under close inspection mine appeared to be in fixation position straight ahead. One good knock with a rubber mallet and the pieces separated. Worth a try before you replace them - saved myself a bunch of cash
I have an older plaster pool with 1.25 inch return lines. Unfortunately, I cannot find directional return jets for 1.25 female fittings. Any suggestions?
Your saying you have 1 1/4" threaded return lines, most are 1 1/2"?, or is it smooth pipe cut off at the wall?
I have the leaf catcher attached to one of the inlet water valve. Is this a good idea
As long doesnât cause too much pressure drop the lead catcher is great. Need to empty it regularly to maintain good flow thru. It keeps debris out of the pump basket and filter which is a big time saver (and extends filter life). I put a filter sock in mine and cartridge filter is grateful
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New Subscriber. Thanks for the video. So all the jets are return jets, they all have the same function? What are the jets on your diagram you have listed as stop jets? Thanks, Robin
Hello. Iâm just asking out of curiosity but whatâs the difference between a pool return jet and a pool stop jet on the picture?
I'm way overthinking this, but I'm thinking of building a small pool to swim laps attached to a tether. Probably about 7' x 10', so I'm sure one return jet would be enough. Would it make the most sense to put the skimmer and return on the same wall and point the return away from the skimmer? Would that create enough circulation? Thanks for the videos.
Yes otherwise return would push water into* the skimmer. Kind of common sense
Hello. What is the best pump hp on a 16" sand filter tank? Thanks
Get rid of the sand filter and get a heyward cartridge with 1.5hp motor if you find one
Is scrubbing the dead areas necessary if you have a pool cleaner (barracuda). I only do behind the ladder and the bottom of the pool floor.
As long as something is cleaning the dead areas - either you or the barracuda - then you're good to go. Just make sure it's getting into the common areas we mentioned.
In pool vacuums also have dead zones where they donât reach. Especially around steps and at farthest length of hose. There are the first areas where algae will grow. I still brush weekly and can see fine dust in certain random areas. Getting this suspended back into the water column makes it easier for the filter to remove. Also a good time to add clarifier every few weeks.
Plus itâs great exercise in the sunshine!
Does the pump and filter must be at the pool level or can you position the filter and pump on a higher ground above the pool level?
Itâs always best to have the filter mounted a little higher than the pool surface. When the pool is below water level when you service the pump water will flow downhill with gravity and drain the pool. And because side leaks are more common it will drain from there as well
Water return - in-floor cleaners (popups) vs standard wall water return: Is it better to have the wall water return off so full pressure is sent to the in-floor cleaners?
If the pool came with floor cleaner and side return, use them all. Thatâs why they were installed. To work together. Not pick and choose
why is dirt shooting out of return jet when filter first turned on? I have a sand filter with a side mounted push/pull valve. I do back wash regularly and keep the pool chemically balanced.
Could there be broken parts inside the filter?
Thatâs my problem too.
Broken grid
Yep. Broken grid inside filter.
What you do is get a hammer and put a big hole in it. Then take it and throw it in the trash and buy a heyward cartridge and be done.
Can I put the solar cover on my pool to warm the water while I get the pipes open and get it ready?. It's mild green very little algae as of now
sorry no response, what did you find out?
Solar covers may add 2 degrees on a hot day. Literally waste of money
Your video is very interesting!!! But I have a some question for you because I need some information for my swimming pool.
Can you explain me:
- How do you decide which SAND FILTER, PUMP, PVC PIPES is better for swimming pool?
- What mathematical formulas did you use to dimension it?
- Can you help me because I need to renovate my pool and I need to understand if my sand filter, pumpb and pvc pipes are will be good?
Thank you!
Sand filter sucks. Get a cartridge.
Ok what position do you put the Return valves. Thereâs one valve the main line comes in from the bottom and scammer. You could turn one line off or the other or put in a middle for both where do you put it. And amount of time to run filter. And speed on A variable speed pump.
Put skimmer wide open and main drain half way open
8 hours plus no less then that
Speed depends on your pressure I usually run it over 2000 + but if you can get the skimmer sucking and return flowing fine on less speed than go for it
â I have an inground swimming pool and right now have debris on the pool floor around the main drain in the deep endâŠ..would that restrict the water flow coming from the pump into the return lines into the pool? Iâm in the process of cleaning our poolâŠâŠseems like once I prime the pump the water flow is going fast then it tends to slow down some over time
You have a clean and not old filter? And yes itâs not great for debris to sit on the drain. But it shouldnât ever cause a difference you could see unless itâs a bucket, toy, etc
Also. Your pump is priming at higher rpm to get going, hence the word prime, then slows to whatever rpm it is set to. Since you have a variable speed
Just got my pool finished I also had pop-up cleaning heads everytime I pull kicks into cleaning mode I get lots of air coming out of cleaning heads is that normal? Pool company tells me that it is because I have an ozonator connected to my system that pushes air .
Well there ya go
Just opened my pool today and after putting everything back together, when I turn on the motor, water is not being sucked in and my filter is not getting any pressure. I took off the lid made sure everything was good, place it back on, and clamped the filter shut. Turned on the motor once again but nothing. :(
We have a troubleshooting guide here that may help: www.swimuniversity.com/pool-pump-not-working/ You may need to prime your pump.
you should take of the lid to the pump and fill it with water then fire it back up. its called forced priming. if that doesnt work put a hose and let water urn into it for a few minutes.
Your pump lost its prime. Just put a hose (or dump a bucket of water) into the pump basket until it overflows. Tighten the lid and fire up the pump. Matt have to repeat a second time. Very common when pump is dormant for long periods and tiny air leak lets water slowly siphon back into pool
I have a 28 ft above ground pool. I think it's 12,000 gallons. Not that the size has much to do with my question. I just realized on my return hose, right before the fitting that connects the hose to the jet, on the outside of the pool is a valve. It appears to be an air valve. It has a cap on it. If you move the cap just a little it allows air to mix with the return water and bubbles come out the jet.
So the air doesn't go through the system. What is that for? And is it helpful or harmful to use? I've tried to find out but everything that comes up online refers to fixing an air leak. This isn't an air leak, it's designed to allow air in right before its shot into the jet.
I have the same thing as you. I have a venturi tube in my pipe leading to my return jets in my pool. Not sure what that is for. Just saw it was leaky. Not sure if I could replace with a pieve of regular PVC or replace the venturi. Have you found anything in regards to that?
@@edgar916911 Nope. Mine doesn't leak though. I can remove the cap and it still doesn't leak. But unfortunately no I haven't figured of what it's all about.
Thatâs for spa features like a hot tub itâs just for bubbles
So I have a Question. I have an Inground pool that is 18 ft Wide and 36 ft in Length. Depth is from 3 ft to 8.5 ft deep. It only has 1 skimmer and 2 returns. Is this enough for this pool.
It depends on how much debris you get, if you keep it running all the time and if your pump and filter aren't kicking things back into your water. If things are running smoothly, you're fine!
@@SwimUniversity thanks for the response. I cannot get this pool to clear from Algae. Iâve shocked it multiple times this past week. Added chlorine by the gallons. Cleaned and bought new filters. Iâm at a loss. Iâve tried algaecide, vacuumed and keep the skimmers cleaned. Had my water tested and it still wonât disappear. All I can say is HELP
@@CyncalKaos Throw in some floc out
great videos, i've watched most of them already. I have a 4 yr old Hayward de filter. when I recirculate the pressure back to the pool is great. When I backwash and then filter, pressure is good for about 15 min, then it begins to slow. my filter cartridge was cleaned this past weekend. I can't figure out the issue. Everyone i speak w/ says clean the cartridge........IT'S CLEAN!!!!
I have a Hayward de filter also and I have this same problem did you figure it out yet
Maybe you feed too much de powder or maybe thatâs the normal pressure if you want more you need a stronger pump
Or just open up the filter and clean it manually
If you just backwashing it then you will need to open it up and wash the grids or fingers
7+ years in the pool business
My Pool Installer tells me I don't need main drains. They use on a skimmer (at one end) and two return jets (opposite end) for a 7m x 4.2m x 1.3m rectangular fiberglass pool. I feel they are doing as little as they can (including a small filter and pump) to make more money. Does that sound right?
For something that size, that's not the end of the world. But a properly sized pump and filter with main drains would definitely make keeping it clean so much easier for you.
Itâs a fiberglass pool. Not a lot have main drain
I have a pool that has an old pump motor, and old filter sand system. After a few hours of it running strong, it then starts to barely blow any water out of the filter into the pool. I replaced the pump and the sand, after a few hours it does the same thing. I backwash, rinse and put it back to normal operation. It will work for a few hours and then barely have any circulation again. To note the motor never cuts off on the new pump, all skimmer baskets including the pump skimmer basket is clean and doesnât have any leaks or air bubbles. I have a very slight leak from the multi valve port ring to lock it into place but I didnât think that would be my issue. Anyone have any thoughts?
You have a restriction in the return line before the filter. Itâs restricting flow to the pump. You can snake it with a plastic line to break it up
Throw the sand filter in the garbage and get a heyward cartridge
I have a question, I have a round above ground pool and Iâm not getting good circulation in the center of the pool. I have the return jet pointed downwards but itâs still not circulating the center of the pool. Everything is flowing properly not sure if I need to position the return jets at a different angle
I had that issues point the return nozzle to the right or left to circulate in around motion
@@magdiel123456 pointed to the right or left away from the skimmer?
Either direction but make sure they both are pointing in the same direction you want to make a swirl effect
@@lenasjw67 point away from skimmer to create a circular flow so debris circles pool and runs into skimmer
Why point into the skimmer? That would make no sense. Come on guys. Use the grey matter.
Can you help me understand why dirt is coming out of my return jet when first turning the filter pump on. Itâs like I vacuum up all the algae n dirt and it comes right back in the pool. I have an above ground pool with a sand filter.
You have a crack or hole in a pipe underground. Common sense.
Or your filter is garbage. Get a cartridge and replace it yearly depending on size and brand. Donât skimp. Clean it often as needed. Takes 10 minutes
Didn't understand. I have two nozzles on one side.of the pool and two at the stairs on one end. The single skimmer is on the opposite side of the two nozzles. How should the four be pointed?
Make them point so as to create a whirlpool effect, all in the same direction, slightly downward. When jets are pointed too high they bubble and ripple the surface which makes it hard to see when vacuuming.
@@Lughnerson If you point the nozzles at an angle towards the surface you get wonderful (counter) clockwise circulation of debris directly into the skimmer. Considering that vacuum for just 20 minutes a week but you run the pump for 3,500 minutes a week itâs a complete non-issue. Alternately you can just turn the pump off for vacuuming and back on immediately afterwards. Having zero debris on the surface is great when you are in the pool. And being able to visualize the whirlpool effect from outside the pool is very reassuring. The deep to shallow circulation is accomplished via the main drain (or in-pool suction cleaner). No debris on pool bottom or surface and complete circulation. The pool is so clear it looks empty
Iâm so confused. Literally every article/video Iâve seen says to point jet AWAY from skimmer. So, my return jet is right next to my skimmer. I only have one and I keep it pointed down and away. Should I move it the other direction?
How many return jets? You want to create a circulation process to where the water can make itâs way to the skimmer. Think of it as a clock and picture your skimmer on a certain number on a clock. My skimmer is at â7 o clockâ and my jets circulate clockwise from â10, 1, 3, 4, 5 o clockâ
@@jres9692 I only have one. I have it pointed down and away from the skimmer
@@k8tallison250 that is the correct way. Aim away from skimmer to create a whirl pool
This video says the opposite. One jet, towards the skimmer and down. Multiple jets away from skimmer and down.
@@systolic7483 that's what I'm questioning. Everything I've seen/read says one jet, point AWAY
So I am battling with creating a good flow for the pool surface
I aim my 4 jets at a slight UPWARDS angle in a counter clockwise pattern. You can clearly see the surface water make a circular course and head directly for the skimmer. As a result the surface has zero floating debris. The deep / shallow circulation is fine because the in-pool vacuum removes the cooler surface from the pool bottom and the jets return it at the warmer surface. Your main drain can do the same thing but less efficiently because it is stationary
how many returns typically needed for a residential pool?
For a 12-15,000 gallon pool 4 return jets are usually adequate for good circulation. Any pool designer will do some serious math to determine flow rate, pump size, pipe diameters, skimmer, drain lines jet nozzle openings in addition to number of return jets. The drainage capacity needs to equal the pump output - harder to fix after itâs built. Best to leave it to the professionals
Most builders guess so pools can be wildly off from neighbor to neighbor
Well the brushing part, i brush my pool every 2 days
No need unless you have no circulation or under hp pump or crap filter.
I have a cartridge filter pool, also I have never had a pool before. But this thing is expensive AF!!! I can't vac the dead algae from the pool because it blows right back in! I have tried to wash the filter to no avail. I have a strainer basket net(panty hose for skimmer basket) on the return jet and on the skimmer basket. It seems like I am going to need a new $100+ filter for every 1/4 of the pool I vacuum. This blows balls!!
Mechanical filtration alone is NOT a cure for algae. You need to kill the algae chemically and then filter it out. Algae doesnât grow in a pool with proper chemical balance. There are plenty of âclean to greenâ videos the show the steps. This particular video is geared for optimizing a non-problem pool. Your pool circulation might be just fine - get the pool clear and then get it balanced. The circulation part isnât hard or complicated. Best of luck
@@drdrew3 that's the thing, I have had it "clear" and everything dropped to the bottom but I can't vac it out because 4 swipes with the vac and the cartridge filter is full and blowing out algae. I maintained a balanced ph and chlorine for a while and then all of a sudden I can't hold either. I'm scratching my head on what to do and my buddies are telling me to drain it, clean it and start over. I have shocked, like power shocked-double or more the amount for the size, it so many times and the chlorine is still less than 1ppm.
I'm starting to think the 20-30min drive to the lake would be worth it.
@@joshsmith7692 If it's that bad, vacuum on waste. Put the dead algae out on the ground.
Itâs a you problem. Not the pool.
@@themotherfdude8891 oh thanks! That solved all the issues
What about the main drains!
What about them
I always wanted to know why in pool field they call the water supply the ' return' while every engineering system it's called a supply... Hvac, plumbing, fire protection,
The other side is called âsuction side.â
Any water line, above 0 psi is a return....0 psi is at atmospheric pressure.... but...before the pump...the pressure is below that...and so it becomes the supply.
It's simply "Before and after the pump".
Plumbers/HVAC/Firemen work AFTER the pump... to them, it is a supply.... BUT! to the pump operator....well... he's the man, isn't he!
In Pools... it's water being RETURNED to the pool after pumping and filtration..... It's a closed circuit. OK?..."The water is returning to the pool..."
Weâve always just said suction side and pressure side - never had any confusion.
What PSI should my pump be registering as normal ?
Remove debris from skimmer baskets and pump basket, then backwash. Whatever number you see on your pressure gauge after back washing is your starting pressure. Should be anywhere in the range from 10-20psi
Once you determine the baseline pressure of your system make a note of it. When you reach 10 psi above the baseline itâs time to clean the filter media
I have 3 jets in the pool, 1 at the deep end and 2 at the shallow end, the deep end jet has strong flow while the other 2 are weak. Is
this normal or should all the jets have pretty much equal flow?
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The deep end may be the first jet in the return line so it has the most pressure. As long as they are all working and pointing the proper direction the circulation is fine.
Most jets can accommodate different size exit openings. A set of plastic washers often comes with the jets to fix your problem. You can balance the flow by decreasing the diameter of the exit hole on the most powerful jet. If you lost the washers pool stores have them. You can use PVC cement if not a perfect fit for your nozzles
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Hi! I have pool color that I want to add for a gender reveal. How can I make the added color come out of the waterfalls of my pool?
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Add oil based paint right to the skimmer!
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