Vintage Car Battery Charger Restoration
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2022
- Christie 12/6 volt battery charger is gone through and given a second chance at life.
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The light bulbs are used as a resistive load (current limiting component) in the internal circuits. Nice job on the 'ol Christie!
That thing is a work of art! Amazing cosmetic restoration. I didn’t know about the gasoline not touching the printing. As usual I learned something new from you.
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Wow that trick with the painting the wheels with not bothering to mask and just cleaning right away with gas is brilliant. I'll be stealing that.
It's pretty much the only method I use anymore. I do the same thing for decals on equipment. Just paint directly over them and wipe it clean while the paint still wet. You get a much nicer smoother edge versus a tape line.
Nice Restoration. The light bulbs act as fuses just like the old screw in glass fuses. They are much easier to see if they have blown.
The old glass household fuses didn't light up did they? To be honest I've never seen them in action as far as I can recall.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Your right old glass household fuses didn't light up. But did you know the thread on those fuses are the same thread as a conventional light bulb.
@@binnsbrian Yes I did, I found quite a few old screw in fuses at my Great Uncle's home in west-central Louisiana when we were clearing it out back in 2008. Although that home in particular did not use glass fuses. What happens if you screw in a light bulb instead of a fuse in those vintage panels? I know the biggest danger was idiots either mistakenly OR intentionally swapping in a larger amperage fuse when one blew to mitigate that pesky issue of over amperage.. Much easier to do for the average idiot in comparison to a more modern panel mounted breaker which requires disassembly of the panel and isn't as easy as screwing in a new fuse.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists They also used to insert a penny before putting in the bad fuse. That bypasses the fuse entirely. Extremely dangerous.
I've been an electrician since 1970. Back in the day when i had a fuse panel with a dead short on one of the circuits, I would screw a light bulb in the that circuit's fuse space. The short would act as a switch that caused the bulb to light up. I would then check the rest of that circuit. When the short was cleared the bulb goes out. Sometimes a short is hard to find on a dead circuit.
@@binnsbrian Thank you for the insight Brian. Also interesting to know you can use the vintage glass fuse receptacle as a test light in a pinch!
Two things that make this video great. Your talent for restoration and Gingers contribution as man's best friend.
Came out really nice.
You're right: they don't make new battery chargers with any quality.
In fact, I'd trust your old charger more than a brand new one.
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They don't makes things like they use to. Great job.
The Bulbs are Being Used as Resistors. Cool Old Charger.
nice job!!!! im about to tell my age here.... back in the day dad and i used to use regular leaded gas to clean wheel bearings carbs and the like... had one 1lb. Folgers used coffee can and 1/2 lb. coffee can used to clean all parts... now dad was a smoker... its a wounder we never blew ourselves up or burnt the house down !!!
That's great!
We used to put gasoline in a metal pump sprayer and spray wasps with it. One drop of gas hits a wasp and it's done. I still use gas to get rid of large underground yellow jacket nests.
Light bulbs were used like that to limit current and provide some short circuit protection back in the day.
Mr Carlson's lab might know. When he starts up an old device he uses his "current limited and variac supply" that has two light bulbs.
Makes sense
One of my greatest hopes is that some 16 year old sees this and wants to do the same thing.
Good video, educational, simple instruction and good clear video angles. You are a good teacher.
I really like ginger. You can see the intelligence & love for you in her reactions & in her eyes!
She reminds me a lot of a dog I used to have. His name was doobie dog. He's gone now. He was an amazing dog!
I had the first pick of the Litter with him. I spent a lot of time training him. He loved to play with his ball and would literally give his life for me!
He was an amazingly smart dog and could do just about anything you can dream up!👍
Very nice work on the bumping and painting.
Thank you very much!
Filament bulbs vary in resistance as the light up so are sometimes used to control or limit current. At low current they are low in resistance so don't have too much effect but as current rises they get hot, increase resistance and tend to reduce the through current.
I think they are also used as a cheap fuse
What a fantastic revival! Great work!
Fantastic job 👌 I believe the bulbs are being used as current limiters or as a troubleshooting aid.
Makes sense
In car audio it helps limit restoration or that's what I was told.
Your right Joe. Google says "A 12V lamp is used as a simple current limiter. As the current increases, the filament heats up and increases resistance thereby limiting the current. When the current is low, the filament is cold and at a quite low resistance so it will allow the max charger volts to be applied to the battery to fully charge it."
Looks great. Rather than just blowing the dust from the charger to other things in the space, and possibly breathing it in, vacuuming while agitating with a brush could’ve eliminated most of that dust. And then finish by blowing out whatever remained, while directing it toward the vac hose in the hopes some would be captured.
Project Farm found Rust-Oleum gloss enamel to be the toughest paint when tested alongside quite a few other spray paints.
I detected a bit of red paint on your arm hair and perhaps your nasal passages, and while a respirator is often advised, a well-placed gentle breeze of a weak fan works wonders.
It also works to redirect welding fumes, some errant sparks, and mosquitoes.
Kerosene is my go-to for damage-free cleaning but stale gas still comes in handy.
Large heat-shrink tubing would've worked on those leads as well. Love your videos.
New to your channel. You and Mustie1 would have a field day repairing older equipment together
So cool, love those vintage automotive tools, incredible job on the restoration of the charger.
I really enjoy watching you figure out things and make them work. I like to do the same type of thing. It is amazing how well built the older stuff is as compared to a lot of the new. Guys many times compliment me on my broad knowledge of various things but when I watch you I always learn something new........that's a compliment, bud. That charger turned out a lot better than I thought it would when I first tuned into your upload. I'm not done watching but wonder where your faithful companion is today. Oh, I just saw Ginger.! That's a great dog.
Thanks Tom. -Moe
I've seen the insides of the newer Napa battery chargers that are tall & on wheels and the transformers are absolutely tiny their just a bit bigger than the transformers in a battery charger you carry. These older charger's transformers are often double or more in size.
Beautiful job 👍. Ginger sure likes you and I'm always impressed with how smart she is, a real keeper.
That turned out great. Well done. Now I gotta find one to do myself.
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Lovely work dude. You're always so humble. "That's about as good as it's gonna get" he says after making it look factory fresh 👍
GINGER IS THE MAN!
I've got one of these, only difference is the lettering on the front. Got to refurb it now I'm motivated. Thanks
Right on
Nice work man! Looks amazing!
Great job, Moe! That thing looks GREAT!!! And you multiplied it's value!
The rectifier in that unit is a Selenium rectifier. If you ever see a "thick yellowish" smoke come out of the unit get the heck away immediately. A Selenium rectifier that is overloaded or shorts out can produce Phosgene Gas. (Deadly poison gas. Used in WW1).
Wait for area to vent out well before going back in. I saw some fail in the early B&W TV sets and industrial equipment. Nasty.
Nice job on the restoration.
Good to know.
They would stink really bad on old televisions. The flybacks would go out on rainy days in television shops. Snap Snap Smap loud sound
I have that exact same charger. The shop I worked at back in the early 80's threw it in the trash when they bought new chargers. I dug it out and took it home and it still works to this day, except the timer no longer works, but I put the alarm on my cell phone so no problem. Not as pretty as yours though.
That's awesome!
Fantastic job I love restoring stuff and seeing people do the same thanks for sharing
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Love your dog !!! So intelligent!! I got one too it is a germain pintcher !! He looks at me on everything I do !!
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That's a nice charger. Those old ones work so much better than the new digital ones.
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You did a great restoration job on that battery charger. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Cheers
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Nice refurbish Red . Inspiration for others to look after oldies but goodies. I do the same it’s amazing what some people put out . I picked up heavy duty Milwaukee 9 Amp drill . Ryobi belt sander . Bicycles . etc. 👍
Hi Moe, I really enjoyed watching that, start to finish. It looks amazing (and it works)!!!! Words don't do your restoration justice. Thanks for sharing. Beautiful Vintage Charger!
Thanks Carl. I was excited to pick this up and even more so now that it looks so nice.
It's always amazing what a little bit of new paint and some elbow grease can do. It looks amazing!
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Nice job! What a find! Agree, much nicer and more robust than modern stand up chargers. The light bulbs might be like a dim bulb tester intended to limit current to a battery that's either really dead, or with a shorted cell, or shorted diode in the charger, depending on where they're wired in the circuit. The test of that would be if the bulbs are wired in series in the circuit.
I was thinking the same thing about the internal bulbs
Make sense
@@sixtyfiveford Most likely as current limiting fuses.
Lovely old bit of kit that's going to live on as a perfectly usable battery charger. Great to see the VW being used as the work horse that it was designed to be too.
Hey thanks. Yeah the VW is a small work pony.
Awesome job. I have used non abrasive hand cleaner to remove grease from surfaces. Great seeing the VW still going strong. Thanks for the information.
Awesome, I'll have to try that.
I've repaired a few of those chargers over the years. I like the way they use the solenoid to cut power to the negative cable unless it's connected to a battery. Some chargers use a solenoid as reverse connection protection. The selenium rectifier plates tend to break down over time. I just build a new one using a few stud diodes and an aluminum plate. Great video.
Awesome.
Ya I didn't know what kind of diodes those were but wondered if something more modern would have better efficiencies less voltage drop
@@james10739 They are very old school selenium rectofiers. The running forward volt drop is about 1 V in practice. Modern silicons can drop anything from 0.6 V to 1 V depending on the current flow. So no great efficiencies here. When seleniums fail you will know about it. The smell is pretty awful. I generally replace them with a centre holed silicon bridge rectifier package with four connectors on the top. If you buy a pack you can get them for the eqivalent of 2 to 3 dollars each or even less.
@@r8118830 The problem with those is if you leave them on the battery and it gets charged they will end up over charging and can boil your battery dry. The selenium rectifiers don't do that.
Dale in Canada 🇨🇦
@@james10739 for a application like this no difference really. and it will not really benefit from newer silicon rectifiers. only difference would be waste heat and saftey.
Wow, what an amazing find. Rattle-can resto is top shelf. A electrician friend of mine introduced me to that rubber splicing tape some 20 odd years ago and I've been using it ever since. Thanks for the movie and give Ginger a hug for me.
Yeah I had an electrician friend pull that stuff out and my draw dropped. He gave me the rest of a roll and I've been buying it / using it ever since.
The light bulbs are a simple form of current limiting . I use a dim bulb tester on old radios and TV's Same principle as the battery charger. Liked. All my best.
Thanks for the info. That makes sense.
@@sixtyfiveford Very welcome.
I love that charger. When I was a younger those car chargers was very popular. I miss those, The new electronic ones, are garage. To clean decals, I use The Original GOJO Hand Cleaner. Great video.
Great find, love the old chargers! Great video, always learning something new!
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Beautiful and beautifully done!
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You do such amazing work. Nice job restoring that piece of history. Jayman...
Thanks Jayman. -Moe
Ginger is so adorable 🥰
Amazing job on the charger, when you take a step back it looks brand new! Nice work man 😎
Thanks a bunch!
Nicely done. I've got an old charger I'm thinking of refurbishing. This video will certainly help.
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Awsome find, great job! Thanks for sharing, Derek
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. I have a couple of old chargers. An old Matco and a Fox. Eventually I repaired the Matco with the rectifier from the Fox. I threw the rest of the Fox charger in a box in the shed. Years later I'm cleaning out the shed and wanted to test the Fox charger components. They looked REALLY bad. Tested good 😊. I built a new box, replaced the push buttons with a rotary switch and added 4-70A diodes. They're better than any new ones for sure.
Awesome
those bulbs are used as probably resistors as they didn't have anything like that back then or nothing as efficient as we do now but still the impressive piece of machinery considering it still works out it's age . They make stuff like that anymore not nowadays. Here's another thought he could be used as a current limiting device I could be wrong.
Nice job , I love the old stuff it is built to last and be serviced if necessary . Imagine all the batteries this charger has already charged in its life and now it going to charge even more for years to come .
This thing has seen several lifetimes of work.
That was a great find!!!
excellent tutorial.
I made one of those rattle can shakers. Used it today, in fact. A wonderful invention.
Awesome
It was a wonderful restoration beautiful
Great job. Looks great
Sweet job, 👍🏼👍🏼! Love finding any old American made tech then bringing it forward for todays use, especially hand tools. Can’t beat it! Funny, I caught a glimpse of that winged gas can on the shelf and it reminded me of Aerosmiths “get your wings” album cover. Very cool eye candy✌🏼
Hey thanks. It's fun just to have these around to look at.
Wow! Amazing transformation!
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Awesome job, looks fantastic.
Thank you very much!
Nice renovation!
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Very nicely done for sure!
Nice find ! Cleaned up great👍
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Wow…how you made that face and tag look almost new was amazing. Again, always learning something when watching your videos.
Thanks. It was a fun project
Way too nice for my shop! Good job.
Too nice for mine..
Great refurb bud.
That turned out brilliant ! Great video
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Good tips. Enjoy seeing old, practical and well made machines restored and put back into service. That charger should last the rest of your, your kid’s and your grandchildren’s lifetime. Only other thing you might have done is, lube the fan bearings with light machine oil. By the way, the big diode is likely a germanium diode.
Hey thanks. It should kick around until gas cars are a vintage creature.
The light bulb is a current limiter indicator when its glowing bright there alot of current flowing but when its dims its about done so you know to turn it off.
That looks amazing! I'm jealous, old school battery chargers are amazing. Great job, I'm glad Ginger approved lol
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
That was satisfying.
Good tip about petrol not hurting print, I didn't know that.
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Cool. Love the show. Thanks.
Thanks Mark. -Moe
For cleaning painted surfaces Sprayway glass cleaner works great.
Very Nice. I'm sure the founder of Christie Electric is probably looking on with a big grin. Great Dog too!
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NICE REPAIR !!!!!!!!!
i like your paint shaker.
This is old school.It's basically a light bulb charger
I got my 3 inch pipe plug from Amazon. Looking forward to finishing my paint mixer!
They don't make stuff that good anymore. That thing is solid & made to charge batteries!👍🇺🇸
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Nicely done, enjoying your video. You're the master of spray paint! It is also a genius idea to use gasoline as cleaning solution!
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Awesome result 👏
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That plate thing is a selenium rectifier, a type of metal rectifier, invented in 1933. The big gray tube is a resistor. Replace the capacitor on the meter they dry out over time.
Nice work, good match on white paint.
Thanks, it took a few attempts to match it.
@@sixtyfiveford I though it would.
Now that is a cool project !
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Great job!
Nice work. Ginger is so cool. (I miss my late dog.)
Looks amazing. As always great work.
Thanks Man!
Huh! Gotta admit, I thought it was a little lame for a project at first, but I was wrong! That turned out real nice and it shows he quality that we used to be able to get. Good job man!
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man, i love this channel.
Hey thanks, you're awesome
I have an old 6V /12V charger with 2 and 6 amp options that I repainted. It seems no the ammeter is getting finicky and won't work.
I opened the case and cleaned the terminals good but haven't tested it out yet.
A block of wood or similar under the lid would save paint on your hand, and leave paint on the bottom edge. nice job .
Absolutely
Love that old machine. There's just something special about that stuff. Like a steam locomotive, it's almost got a soul!
I totally agree!
Man, she looks sweet! Charger looks good, too! HAHA
I have a couple of 1970's era benchtop chargers that need a resto. One is an orange Shumacher, the other is an aqua colored K-Mart unit. You have rekindled my interest in making them shine again. Nice work!
Awesome
Nice accessory for your garage.
It sure is!
Came out very nice.
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there is a certain charm to masking over tattered decals before repaint. i do it to all my resto bicycles.
Wow cool, built like a tank. Luckily you grabbed it, with scrap prices being so high things like this week become rarer and rarer. Looks great!
Hey thanks. I swear some guys would scrap a good tool set just to make 50 cents.
Nice painting tip
Vintage indeed. Pre-zip code. Quite impressive clean up. Seems to me the one our shop had in '62 had more controls / settings so yours pre-dates it.
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