Profoto B10 Review | REAL WORLD SHOOT Behind the Scenes
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If you want an un-boxing video, or someone to tell you "specs" this is not your video. I am also not going to run through all the features of the light. What I AM going to do.. is take you along with a top fashion model here in Miami on a real shoot and show you exactly what these little Profoto B10's can do! So buckle up, and let's do it!
I am also going to give lots of photography tips, my setups and how I get some of the results that I do!
Also Maria (my model) is going with us to the desert (Nevada) at the end of the month for my workshop! If you are interested in attending this educational photography workshop, hit me up on IG and view my saved stories on this amazing trip! 11/30 - 12-5 (2018)
If you have questions about the lights, I am happy to help in the comments below. Any comments critiquing my work, my video, or any other BS will be deleted, and you will be banned from this channel. If you don’t like it.. move on ;-)
Thanks everyone!
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I don´t like videos where guys just sit and talk about the product for ten minutes. I wanna know how it works in real life. This is how you do it, great video!
Hey thanks man! I really appreciate that! Yeah, there are a lot of people who have channels only for reviews. The risk with that, is that they need content to talk about all the time, so chances are they are not using the stuff on-going for real shoots etc. Just basic overview etc. For me, I don't really do reviews.. so I am free to say it how it is lol.
Happy to see the B10's still crushing it in HSS! I had initial concerns about this and just noticed it handling 1/8000 on a bright day in this video. Thanks!
Great review! Was going for the B1's but gonna switch to the B10's. Thanks, and love your work!
I love all the guidance you give for the person your taking a photo of. Not many photographers have that skill still!
Awesomeness personified!!!
Yessir. Killin em as usual! Killer shots all day!
Thanks man!
Great video...have the B2 but have been contemplating about getting a couple of these as well.
finally you have them, hope you enjoyed playing with them, and as i see you have the OCF Magnum reflectors, great!!! all the best :)))
YES! LOL. Finally! Thank you so much! Yeah, that Magnum is great for sure!
Thanks for the super informative and useful hints. Bonus: how you direct the model into cool poses 🙌
Thanks so much. The direction is just based on a long time of doing it. I am launching an education site soon.. stay tuned!
Great review. Love my B10
Hey Zach Im in the market for 2 of these, would you say these are much better than continuous LED lights? I do a lot of Head Shots outside and do I really need 2 of these?
Eye & equipment candy! Awesome vid!
haha totally!!
Love the energy in your videos! Keep it up.
Thanks man! I appreciate that!
One of the best reviews of the B10 I've seen, excellent photos and a great video!!
Nice review. I had concerns about buying the B10 based on its power v. that of the B1x. And you mentioned in the comments about Profoto updating the B1x. I can see a pair of B10's being a nice companion to an updated B1x as a main light. Keep up the good work! Well presented!!!
Thanks. I had the same concern, and had the two B1X location kit. After comparing side by side with the B10.. the B1X kit was returned :-) I use them all the time to over power the sun, and they are amazing. No matter what the new B1 will be, it will be larger and heavier.. I think in many ways.. the B10 is the current flagship for Profoto. It's more powerful than you think. Next week I will be in the middle of the desert shooting bridal fashion. With... you guessed it ;-)
Awesome Travis, thank you!
Another very educational video thank's Travis.
Great review, the B10's look like a winner, now time to start saving lol
For sure! Be sure to watch the Las Vegas workshop video we did (posted yesterday) TONS of footage with them there!
This video is Fantastic!
Thanks man. It was a lot of work and time.
I just love your vids and learning techniques and settings! Thank you for a quality vid!👍👌
Thanks partner! Happy Thanksgiving!
Great video, not only covered the B10 it self but you're also talked about light quality with different modifiers. I'm interested about how portable the OCF magnum reflector is. How does it compare to the original magnum reflector? Is the light quality different?. Thanks
Yes, it is very portable.. and very different. You would not want to use the original magnum with the B10. It is not optimized for it. The link in my description to Profoto Academy, search that channel and they have an AMAZING video showing you this very thing! Defiantly stick with the OCF for the B1 / B10s
Wooohooooo another one
That was also a composition and posing workshop :)
haha Thanks my man! It was indeed ;-)
Great review! Very inspirational as always! BTW did you use the full mechanical shutter or can the electronic first curtain shutter be used wit the EOS R
Forgive me.. this part I am still learning. Red menu #6 was set to mode 1 in this shoot. However, I have to now disable it to get rid of the issue I spoke about in my other video. Meeting with another photographer in a few moments to see if it's the camera or the profoto remote as he does not seem to have the same problem (see my last video on this).
@travis hey where can I find the mono pod you’re using to hold the profoto b10? The short mono pod and the long one . Thanks !!!
great! as usual Master!
lol, thanks man! I appreciate that!
Hey Travis, first of all just wanted to say thank you so much for all the video reviews and congrats on the work.
I was wondering if you have shot with them in studio, through bigger modifiers with diffusion, or beauty dish with grid and sock, and how did it perform? I’m considering switching my lights to b10s but I do a lot of studio work. I mainly like the small footprint of them, but I’m never gonna be using a magnum reflector and I’d be shooting ISO 100 most the time, sometimes stopped down on my aprerture to f11.
Also, have you used them outdoors with bigger modifiers like parabolics or something like that?
Would love to hear your thoughts and thank you once more.
Thanks! Truth is, I have not. So, I can't say from any experience. I know was as able to get f/18 in Las Vegas (see my last video). Nice thing is constant power from AC power with the B10's. I would be surprised if they can't render f/11 up close with the bigger mods.
Wow what a phenomenal video!
As someone who owns 2 B1’s this is incredible information.
Can I ask you, do you prefer shooting with the EOS R or the 5D4?
Thanks!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that! I prefer the EOS R hands down. My former camera was the 1DX, and I use the R now for everything.
Really like the videos (found it after your eos r video) love how you interact with the audience in the comment. How did the batteries hold up during your shoot? You said at the end they showed half power, but how many shot did you take and where they more the full power outside or inside? I was looking to buy the B2 but now I’m not so sure.
Those shots aren’t my style at all but I appreciate how they showed the light, you just won yourself a new subscriber !!
Hey thanks so much! Yeah 880 shots. I'd say 33% were at or close to full power. The rest in the middle. Battery life is stunning. B2 will be discontinued soon. No one is buying that now.
Great review, Seen him walking to the light in order to know the power is appalling for a light so expensive. This b10 is a winner, I hope they fix this quickly. A solution will be to have not an iPhone app, but an Apple Watch one. The device has the power to run full applications.
Yeah, I should have mentioned that. Your right, knowing the power levels on the remote needs to happen! LOL.
@@travisharrisphotography a new remotes needs an af assist and power levels that reflect whats on the modifier. Funny thing is that if you dont use ttl, the canon remote works on sony cameras. thats shows how simple those things really are. it just sends a signal.
Great review, thank you!
I always enjoy your videos....lovely.
First comment. Thanks bud!
@@travisharrisphotography You're most welcome. I leave your videos like I just attended a class. You're really awesome.
Have you had any issues with the banding in low light dark images that a few reviewers are talking about. Was going to buy the Eos R this weekend but that issue is putting me off as a landscape shooter.
Zero. No issues. I have shot 12800 iso. I don't have any bands.
@@travisharrisphotography Thanks
Thanks brother
I have been going crazy with this for the past month
I am getting the B2 Now and a B10 Later
Glad I could help
It appears someone finally made an HSS unit you like as much as using Hi-Sync! Great review Travis, and I thought your Hi-Sync vid for Elinchrom was fantastic, this is even better. Hard to believe you are getting similar results with much less power than the ELB or Quadra 400 etc. With HSS it would seem you'd need the lights much closer at higher shutter speeds due to power loss from HSS. I have a Godox/ Flashpoint set up and find at higher shutter speeds I need to be much closer than how you had the lights positioned. Of course I was using either a 22" beauty dish or a 48" octabox. I'd like to hear more about max distance etc. Not sure if you covered it in the vid, if you did I must have missed it. All the best.
Thanks for the B10 review definitely help make my decision.
Cant go wrong! It's incredible!
Love, Love, Love this video! Love it so much that I purchased the B10 Duo kit with two OCF magnum's. My question is how often do you use the your OCF Beauty Dish? Or do you find yourself not using it at all? Any into would be greatly appreciated.
Very informative video. Thank you! What was the widest angle lens that you used for the first shot with the building in the background and inside the hotel room? Looks a little wider than 24mm.
You are very, very welcome! Yes, it was a 16-35mm 2.8L. Settings on that shot were 1/200, f/10, ISO 100 manual white balance set to around 6400K
Thank you! I have the affordable 16-35mm 4.0L, however when I seen the sun flare by the building and you mentioned 2.8, it made me wonder how did you get the flare while being wide open. f/10 makes perfect sense now!
@@VIP_Phil Yes, I totally miss spoke in the video! LOL, I caught that too! I said 2.8.. and this was not correct. It was f/10
3:24 is my favorite shot you took when making this video.
What was the solution to that small white strip that was at the top in your other video. Great video!
Yes! Red menu, #6 LV mode set to disable. Problem solved. 👍
Great information Travis - well done - love watching other photographers and how they work. I'm really weak on posing as I'm a hybrid event shooter so it's all shoot and move with me. Your comments are interesting on the EOS-R as Its my choice along with the new Z6 - the reviews coming in on the Z6 for hybrid are really good - difficult decision still haven't decided yet - the kicker is no IBIS on the R.
Cool thanks man! Yeah, the R is excellent. If you already have Canon glass.. its a no brainier. If not, and your starting from scratch.. I still would pick it :-) Too much to type. IBIS is way over rated (for photo use) and I am not shooting video with this camera so I could not care any less about on sensor IBIS. BUT... IF that is important to you.. then, you need to wait for the next one, or go another direction. Colors from canon are king!
Had the same complaint about the knob. While out in hot sun and sweaty everything, adjusting was problematic. Maybe someone releases a different aftermarket knob. Other than that, these lights area incredible
Exactly!
Overall very nice pictures and video. For lightweight and portable its pretty awesome. I want to use bigger modifiers with some distance so I'm using the Flashpoint Xplor 1200 Extension head.
Thinking about adding a 600 pro for better recycle time. I'm hoping they come out with ELB1200 specs at half or 1/3 the cost.
Really enjoyed your video. Which light stand is that? It looks like it will fold compact enough to throw into a backpack.
Yes, this is the Manfrotto Nano stand. $60.
@@travisharrisphotography Thank you Travis! You're awesome, really appreciate your response.
@@MrGerardo1martinez Thanks bud. Anytime!
Travis can you tell us the difference in the weight you experienced between the Eos R and your 1dx ?
Do you still feel the weight on your lower back as a result of the weight of the lens
Just saw this comment.. Yeah, the weight difference is tremendous. The 1DX FEELS x10 times heavier. I try to avoid the 70-200 tho, even with the R. But, it is a lot better for sure.
Thanks for the review. I'll link the Video to our Profoto B10 group on FB.
Incredible! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the review and lesson!
You, are very welcome!
Good thing about removal umbrella grip is that you can buy 3rd party mounts. It’ll be a matter of time for Chinese manufacturers to make some that are useful
Thats true!
Hi man am big fan of your kindly let me knw Which stobe stand u used the which have a back light waiting cor your response
I now want this light to use at weddings. My question to you, since you also use Canon, is what to you use at wedding receptions? I have the 600ex rt flashes and I have a Photix Indra 500lc that uses the same canon RT system. It is great for receptions when I mix flashes and strobes. Do you use strobes at receptions? I really would like to be able to do that, but the cost of the A1 makes that a very difficult decision.
Yeah, so I used to have 4 600RT's and then sold them and bought the cheap manually only Godox 850's II. They are okay, and the lithium battery is nice. At less then $200.. LOL its a hell of a deal. I use three off camera at receptions. Works for me. No need for more costly units like the B10, or anything else.
You can use a1 on camera on ttl with diffuser and trigger a b10 (pointed into the ceiling) in manual grp d. This way you controll "ambient" with b10 and have ttl on your a1 as ypu move from one situation to another.
@@nordfilmcompany yes, many creative ways to mix lights for sure! For me, I dont use TTL at all at weddings (or anything else, except to target a test shot with the Profoto remote, and then switch to manual). The truth is... that the cheap godox lights are nice at weddings for fill, and dance floor stuff. I LOVE the A1's but, I would need 4 of them.. and this is just too much for me, and a good example where the value of the light starts to get very small. The B10 however, is a much different story.. but, there is no way I would want to put the type of wear and tear on the flash tube at a wedding reception. For me, that would be a terrible waste of a primary light. The cheaper off camera flashes are better for that. Just my humble opinion, and I shoot a lot of weddings :-)
I agree I'll just stick with what I am using for now. I also just learned you can't use two A1s as masters on two different cameras without one master firing the other. I always share my off-camera lights with my second shooters.
@@jaayres20 Yeah, I would stick with the "nice" lights for the "nice" portraits. The whole idea with a B10, or B1X is that you can bring the studio along with you, and use the OCF mods. THIS is where this shines like I did in my video. For weddings.. they are great for the styled shots for sure, you can whip out that OCF magnum, or beauty dish.. and get some nice results. But, not at the reception. This (to me) would be such a waste of wear and tear. Get some cheap V850's like I did with lithium batteries, put 4 of them around the room and only roll with a remote on camera. Smaller, lighter, and way better results with everything being directional. I ditched the on camera flash awhile ago.. so much better once you setup flash zones at the reception. If someone comes up to you and says "can you take my picture" you say.. "SURE! stand right here..." and you place them where you know your OCF will work well :-) You can split the dance floor with your assistants, and take turns on different channels. etc..
Travis are you using the OCF Magnum reflector for maximum output.
Yes, check out my last video in Las Vegas. This is all we used for 5 days.
Great video, what light stand are you using for the kicker light ? Look so compact, I’m also curious about the little round feet on it.
Manfrotto Nano stand I think
@@markshirley01 Correct. I bought some "dog" tennis balls and cut a slit into them for the feet. Just helps with the backpack (not to rip it up) and is nice on expensive floors to protect them.
subbed man.. you should do more of this
I have some other videos you can check out.. Thanks man! I'm going to Nevada with that model at the end of the month for a workshop in the desert.. that will be a cool video for sure!
im in the same position... went from single b1x to location kit...left for Mr Olympia 2018 on 9/12, same day as b10 announcment... picked up single b10 last week and thinking i need the location kit.... but i dont want to return (b/c i can't the b1x location kit)...... in studio i use a d2 so yeah, lovely $10k+ in profoto gear
I said fuck it and bought the 2 pack. I like using them more than the b1. They are so small and light. Much more convenient to use.
The B1x will be redesigned soon.. it will match that of the new B10's interface etc.. ;-)
@@travisharrisphotography at this point I just want a 1000ws b1. i have 3 b1s, a d1, a d2, and 2 b10s already. I wouldnt mind a lighter updated b1 but I need something different now.
@@RayValdezPhotography LOL, thats a lot of gear. Maybe see if you can do more with less. I have found as time goes on.. I want less and less gear for my work. I agree, a 1000ws B1 would be great. But, I can pretty much do anything with the B10's and they are far more portable, and this offers more creative options. I sat down, and was honest with myself. I asked.. "Do I REALLY need X, y, & Z"? The truth is I can make do just fine, and work a little smarter in the field etc. It's pretty liberating for sure! Stay tuned for my next video.. next week I am teaching workshop in Las Vegas / Desert! Only B10's :-) Going to be incredible!
@@travisharrisphotography i do a lot of special light set ups with gels also I am kinda lazy so i like to leave stuff in the studio and have some stuff for travel in the home. all the Bs and Ds stay in the studio now and the b10s and 1 b1 for travel.
What type of stands?
Nic Job Travis :)
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
Thanks for this
images look great, exposure is fine. a high fashion look.
7:24 fantastic !!!!
Thanks so much Ralfy!
nice video. No love for a color meter? Sekonic has a new one that is fantastic.
Hey Martin! Lol, yeah no love I'm afraid. What I first started I used meters. Now, I just dial it in by eye and is so much faster. Time is everything in the field with clients. The less I have to fumble with the better.
Very good video. Would have loved to see Maria more close up and less negative space. But, it's your shoot with your creativity. Thank you.
Hey Tom! Yeah for sure. Every shoot has a different goal. For beauty shots and close ups I use a totally different setup. For this shoot it was all about legs, heels, and sexy vibes. This also was a better test for the lighting system as it required full body lighting.
Gotcha on that. Thank you
What do you think the difference is between a silver BD and a magnum.
Light spread, and power. The BD will give you a wider spread.. but at a lower power. It also gives you more options if you dont need the power (sock, and cap). The Magnum, is the big gun that kills the sun when needed, yet still looks amazing. Different tools for different situations really.
@@travisharrisphotography i had googled it before you answered . it seems like a popular question. I am not much of a fan of hard light but I do like the pics I have seen on here and elsewhere so I am considering getting a magnum and trying it out very soon. I am getting tired of soft light but people look so good sooc with it.
@@RayValdezPhotography Yeah, the Magnum is pretty soft. You would be surprised. Take a look at some of the links in my description to Profoto Academy. They show you all of this in detail. I cant tell the difference in shadow sharpness back to back from the BD, vs. the Magnum.. ;-)
Hi travis, how are you!
I know, anyone ask for my opinion, but for my taste the majority of the pictures are over expose!
It's the style you wanted?
I think it's just the video. On my display they look fine. Sometimes this happens with premiere pro. Just pretend they are a few click under exposed lol. ☺️
You don’t need flash w such bright location bc sun bouncing off buildings. I agree they looked over exposed
@@jholid6y Lol, don't need flash?? I'm not a natural light photographer. This is a review for a lighting system.
Travis Harris Photography you should have shot at darker location, sunset or indoors?
@@jholid6y no, the point was to show how powerful the lights are. To fight the sun.
15:01 - You should try an EXPODISC
How did you like these strobes compared to the Godox system?
Haha. I used to have one of those in my bag. They are cool. I like just doing it with the shift. I have got it to a point where I like it and it's faster. I think godox is a great budget light. But this b10 and the whole profoto ocf line is just sick and on a whole other level.
By the way Travis, I purchased the 30L Mindshift case.
I wish I could afford those B10's .
Haha. Don't! Save your money. There are so many great options out there. Godox makes some nice stuff for the money!
B10 IS AWESOME.....But you know wants refreshing about your style?..You use the whole frame from corner to corner. Theirs a Sony cult on CZcams right now where there guy goes to different locations just to blowout the background. lol Silly 1.4 BOKEH craziness. In the subject is standing dead center. Its hilarious Travis. Nice work!
Hey thanks so much! LOL, I think I might know who your talking about.. Yeah, for me I just focus a lot on the subject and what I want to showcase the most. For this shoot, it was ALL about sexy legs, and high contrast. We had so much fun, and was SO excited to make a video like the one I myself wanted to see when I too was looking at the B10's and wanted REAL world results. What I can't stand is alllllll the "review" channels. They are what the brands send products too, and it's so sad.
I get what you're saying. I attended a Joe McNally workshop and he shoots so much commercial bwork and rarely was he ever wide open with his lenses. Most of the time he was around 5.6.
CZcams and IG photographers just do the same wide open shots with pretty much the orange and teal look.
@@hagarthehorrible1391 Love Joe, at one time he was my #1 go to guy :-) He is the one who got me into the Quadra's and Elinchrom for the past 8 years LOL. Joe will tell you himself, that settings, f-stops, etc.. all of that makes no difference. All of this is just a set of tools to do a job, and to bring a vision to life. The shots that I take, I think about before I take them. I want a specific results that I myself favor (there is no right or wrong), and go and make it happen. Videos like the one I made, are great for others who may have a similar style and want to see all this put to action in the field. Hope it helps!
Who are you referring to?
Best
What are those balls on the bottom of the tripod and monopod?
Dog tennis balls from amazon. Protects the pod, and the floor. Also is more visible so someone sees the stand. Also protects the backpack from sharp edges.
great video and explanation but you dont show the pictures of how it looks like...could you please
Hey Louis! Thanks so much! Not sure I understand what you mean? What photos?
@@travisharrisphotography man what I mean to say is that you explain very well everything but while you are explaining you do not show the pictures.
@@LCAIANDCRYPTO Thanks so much. I just am confused on what you mean? I show all the images that I shoot, while I am shooting them. So, I dont know why you are saying I dont show the photos?
A very informative video. But the video light is terrible in places.
Thanks. Yeah, the quality of the video really is not something we care about. Frankly I think it looks great. Too many people get caught up in the small details. This video is not about video, it's about the profoto lights and what our thoughts are. Weather I shot this with a nice camera, my phone, or a go pro it just does not matter. Hopefully that makes sense.
Put a diffuser.
nah, dont need it.. Everything came out great. There is a time and place for that, and it all depends on the "look" you are going for. When I work with hard sun, the last thing I want is "soft" light from a box. I want hard light ;-)
Was that a misfire at 11:08 ?
Nope. Zero. The video does that sometimes.. the frame rate vs. the flash speed.
Thanks for reply. I enjoy your videos.
One advantage the B1X has is that it can support big mods like a XL Umbrella, whereas the B10 is probably too small/light to hold up larger mods.
The advantage in my testing is that the b1x had a wider spread, which in theory will help fill out larger boxes. The link below to profoto academy will illustrate this comparison wayyyyy better than anyone else. However the b10 Handels well even with the big mods.
Also, I use the xl umbrella at weddings. No worries at all with the b10. Solid as a rock.
@@travisharrisphotography Crazy! I've put the XL Umbrella on my B2 head and I didn't feel confident it could hold it without putting too much stress on the B2 head.
@@roblloyd_ Yeah, with the B10 its different. The mount is not apart of the head this time.. its a non issue.
Travis Harris Photography hi, i use the glass dome on my b1 for larger modifiers(6’ or bigger). I wonder does it brother b10 can do the same thing? It seems like no one is talking about. Appreciate your video.
Starting shoot with the B10 near the pool is itching for a gust of wind to blow it into the pool,sand bag me thinks
LOL, I talk about this in the video.. keep watching. In this case, there was zero wind. This is always the first thing on my mind.
The f*ck happened to Jorge helping you
He is no longer on my team. He got too big, and is a rock star now. ⭐😊😎
Nice try.
You talk too fast and too much sorry!
model was trash.
wow man, really? I feel so sorry for you dude. I hope whatever life challenge you are going through turns around. God bless you my man.
To my experience profoto lights are very faulty and expensive.The quality of the light system is worse than the cheapest light system.
Ya know, I might just agree with you. Having used them now for close to 2 years, I am thinking of rolling with Godox now. We will see.. :-)
I am not convince when videographer don’t know how to set exposure on his video. Man, everything is too white!!! You are just overconfident with a lot of expensive equipment, but this video sucks. Wached for 7 mins of video, horrible.
Lol, well I guess the other 37,000 people who watched it think it's okay. Maybe your problem is that your being too critical of something that makes no difference. The quality of the video is not what I'm paid for and have made a living at for over 10 years. It's the photos. I would have been happy with a cell phone video, the point is the information and message. Be smart, look at the bigger picture here and adjust your way of thinking and you will get more out it. If you disagree, then just find someone else to shit on 👌
shot you made at 21.11 sends what seems shadow if shoot with soft box would that happen great photos the photos you showed us did you use photo shop oh well it straight out of the camera lovely model as well she looks beautiful I'd love to all of your courses but I live in the UK a bit too far keep up the good work