Optimus Vs Optimus: GAMER EDITION, Highmoon Showdown
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2024
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Fun fact: GE Optimus was originally intended as just a one-off release to celebrate the High Moon game, but was later expanded into a full line, which probably explains the toy's higher quality compared to other GE toys.
That would also explain why the gamer edition line feels so short sighted considering there is really only one game series with it's own designs
@heavenlyderpfowl1180 there are others, but they used them in legacy with origins from other appearances.
For example, Nova prime could technically be considered a Devastation character, and Tidal Wave was only ever a Titan in the Armada video game.
It's also why he's got such bizarre plastic and clearly missing pieces. Him, Bumblebee and Barricade were all made on the budget of one Voyager...
Funny since the og deluxe had the same story.
Huh. That explains a lot now ngl.
never thought i'd hear perspective say he likes a highmoon transformers design
WFC game Optimus just works.
Others get the wrong kind of chonk like Bumblebee and Ratchet, or it's just half and half bullshit like the FOC Combaticons and Megatron.
I think the only three High Moon designs that actually look good are WFC Optimus, Warpath, and Shockwave. Also Bombshell because nothing can ruin Bombshell.
In the sage words of those guys from the Road of El Dorado, “both. Both are good.”
A *Gamer Edition* figure that Perspective doesn’t utterly hate and despise, but just mildly dislikes? That’s good for the *Gamer Edition* line I guess
Fun fact a lot of the old war for Cybertron toys weapons were unused concept weapons for the game
Legacy core cheetor: you can’t hide from me forever
I actually like to imagine that if Ben Tennyson have a Cybertronian transformation in the Omnitrix, it would be this design but green in colour
Tennyson Prime? It does have a ring to it.
Wouldn't it be closer to primus if the Omnitrix takes the best?
@@pat1r1ck nah. Primus is different. He’s a God. Optimus is like the peak of a Cybertronian
@@AmericaChavez17 true that he's a god, but he's by technicality a Cybertronian or no? Since it's implied he's the planet Cybertron in certain Medias.
@@pat1r1ck I mean Ben doesn’t transform into Gods of aliens. Like a human transformation exists but the alien doesn’t transform into Jesus Christ, they will just transform into a real life equivalent of Batman
I love that old deluxe, I found mine in a street market for $5 with only the gun missing. 16 year old me was very lucky that day
No one:
Perspective end: GamEr eDiTioN-
Yeah he sucks
@@angusmcnay5449Your time would be better spent on someone or something you actually enjoy. Let people enjoy something without feeling the need to hate.
Your life would be happier that way
@@aya-7001 eh I think he was referring to the gamer edition Optimus rather than Perspective end
@@mosasaurus2211 if you see that guy's other comments you would realise he's actually talking about perspective
It's Orion Banner and Optimus Hulk!
3 views in 7 seconds perspective fell off.
"Megatron has fallen!" Ahh comment 😭😭 /lh
@@TruelyGumdrop I STARSCREA-
0 likes in 1 seconds imagine-7011 fell off
Perspective fell off SO long ago
@@angusmcnay5449what do you mean
Honey wake up, a new perspective end video is out!
The QC goblin got you hard.
His arm falling off got so bad I went and bought my first thing of floor polish to handle it
“gAmEr eDiTiOn” is becoming my new favorite catchphrase.
LETS GO FINALLY HE FINDS IT
It had a 2nd production run. Still only 1/3 in the case though.
@@DiggitySlice oh neat. I got it from like the first or second shipment sent to Hasbro pulse, so super early.
Unrelated but I'm kinda ehh on the DNA upgrade kit. I paid like 10 bucks off and got the preorder bonus axe, and still sont feel like I got quite as much value as I wouldve liked. The gapfillers are nice and the axe is great but just about everything else has some sort of issues with it. The gun handle is really loose, the arm holdy bit doesnt really attach well and forces the front of the truck up enough to annihilate the bumper paint, the thingy wheels kinda get in the way of the waist swivel motion, and the taillights dont really attach quite well, as well as feeling just a little too pudgy.
0:28 “a fist with wheels attached” -some producer of FoC.
Epic, this is a good comparison.
The classic holds up but is kinda brittle. The new one is bigger and beefier but is less quality then the old
Honestly some of his point is valid as hell, GE Optimus prime plastic feels weird but somehow holds well, GE terrible arms, and missed opportunity on engineering
But when he says old one has better articulation, and looks almost made me spit my food out, at that point you're just talking about your personal preference, not the figure itself
@@YakouHikoichiI can respect your opinion
i have 2 of the old deluxe WFC opimuses and only had one broke when my brother took it and pile drove it into the ground cause he was angry with me and it only broke one of his rear wheel assembly but, ive never felt it was brittle i still do not teat either of them with kid gloved and havent had any issues yet with it?
I think we can all agree There was one version of this prime that everyone likes. Johnnyflash Optimus prime
Agreed
The freakin’ prime voiced by a controversial edgy Bacon for being too mean against The Mainstream Ideology and soured the reputation of a Prime sequel fan film 10 years in the making just for being in it?
(And simps hard for fictional women so much that he hates any female Transformers that do not look like the ideal human women?)
No
7:45 He TRIED to kill me with a FORKLIFT!~
Epic video PerspectiveEnd!!! I agree that the original Generations Optimus Prime figure still holds up next to the Gamer Edition Prime. lol Keep on being amazing.
I have the WFC deluxe, and it’s the reason why I never got into the GE line. I loved how the kibble compressed around the design. In my opinion, the GE doesn’t feel complex looking. WFC designs are a good mix between Bay’s detail and G1’s proportions. The old one nails that vibe, the new one does not.
The GE one is definitely too simple looking, I feel you on that completely.
I think the only reason people like the tumbler is because of Hans Zimmer, the music accompanying that abomination of a vehicle was actually pretty badass.
The old one looks like one of those images where it looks normal on a single angle and every other angle is horrifically stretched to the next galaxy
I like how the day before this video came out the target I go to got like 15 of these
Did you pick one up?
Hi PerspectiveEnd, thanks for justifying my love for the original WfC Deluxe figure. I kept seeing the new Gamer Edition seemingly flaunted as so much better, bur I loved the OG version, and never picked up the new one.
My biggest issue with the old one is it should have been upscaled as a Voyager due to the complexity.
To this day, if I want a Cybertronion version of Optimus, this is my go to figure (sorry, I know you love Siege Prime, and while I will never call it a bad figure, to me it's not a Cybertron mode Prime, just a cabover earth truck with a few extra bits stuck on to try to be alien).
Anyway, thanks for the comparison video.
Nice review, and also today's my birthday
HBD!
you could probably super glue his arm
This is true, and a good Idea, but I shouldn't have to fix a non broken figure.
Is it just me or is this video also serving as a roast-a-mans
I had some moments like that, though I think that I was a bit too even handed for it to be truly like a Roast A Mans.
Well now we know how you feel about the tumbler
The old figure does indeed rock that hard. "Cybertronian" Optimus was one of the figures that got me into collecting back in 2010, and there are still only a small handful of deluxes to match it, let alone surpass it.
Good morning, Perspective End.
That WFC Deluxe hit me right in the nostalgia. I still have my original WFC Soundwave that my sister painted up to look better.
While I understand why you prefer the proportions of the old one, I must say that there is really no contest about accuracy between the two. The Og looks like WFC Prime but the SS is WFC Prime, he has all the right details, proportions, and with a dab of paint it looks almost identical to the in-game model
This is cathartic. Basically every other reviewer treats this thing like the second coming of Christ and I feel like I was the crazy one for thinking it was just the best of a very bad subline. The old one was, what, $15? Now we're expected to pay $35 for what feels like a downgraded, upscaled version, and no one seems to care.
Edit: The gap in the back of truck mode is such an insult I feel the need to mention it by name. The good news is you can fix it by paying _$40_ for an upgrade kit. That's what I want, $80 for a mediocre voyager.
Apparently the arm being absurdly loose is a common problem. I was equally as infuriated so I had to put some kiki on it.
Found out Kiki is just water based polyurethane so I got a lifetime supply with a temp tattoo kit(small bottles/needles for application) on Amazon. It really is a miracle fluid. I hate having to do it but these types of problems can really ruin the experience for me.
Yeah tons of people have now messaged me that they have that problem.
I have Kikis, as well, so I might try that, but I've seen people take even more drastic steps and had it not help, so It may not work for me.
I will never get enough of your lack of respect of the series line name, GAAAMMOOOR EDIIICHIOOON
Some people hate it. Many People Love it.
7:57 now I’m curious about Perspective’s beef with the tumbler
The Batmobile is supposed to be a Sleek Awesome car, that you'd want to drive because it's just that cool. Who want's to drive that ugly lumpen thing down the road? Especially since it's like twice as wide as an actual car.
@@PerspectiveEnd fair enough, what’s your opinion on the Snyder Batmobile?
I was pretty late to collecting and only managed to get that old WFC OP mold, sporting the Nemesis color, as part of a Japanese 2-pack.
The DNA design kit for gamer edition improves the visual hands. Its worth the pick up
Ehh, I'm not sure that this is Good enough that it earns an Upgrade kit, it's decent but spending more money on it just may make it live up to it's value less.
@@PerspectiveEnd fair. To me it works. But can understand if it's not for you
The rear smokestacks on the original rotate in vehicle mode, too, so that you don’t see the gaps and it fits/slots better into the thighs
"These are the legs of a librarian."
To be fair, Optimus was one when he was Orion Pax.
2:28 Why must we suffer as you have suffered?!
3:18 Have you watched "Martha Speaks"?
Hyperventilate!
I have the ✨gamer edition✨ Megatron and I put tape around the arm connector peg so it stays on the arm, so that's a possible fix for the falling arms if you don't mind the loss of the gun arm stuff (as you most likely don't), so I hope you enjoy that fix, got the idea from jobbythehong's megatank review (3P BBM Megatron)
I've not tried that for this guy personally, but someone else did tell me they tried with him, and it still didn't fix the problem.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Yeah the gun arm gimmick was cool but now my primes arm can't even stay on
See I wouldn't even go that far. It's not cool, and it makes the arm not able to stay on, so it's all bad.
The og high moon was my second ever transformer after siege hound, he's an incredible figure and i haven't transformed him in a while though, ill have to do that
Like: Given!
The only issue i have with GAMER EDITION prime is his arm keeps falling off when you move it
To be fair that's a REALLY ANNOYING issue.
@@PerspectiveEnd i guess you can put glue or something into the arm port to make it stay on better, but I'm not trying it
I really wish they just took the old figure and upscaled it, fix a few issues on it and then rerelease it.
And people still would have complained
I have both and definitely enjoy aspects of each figure doesn’t help my original wfc primes arms are loose but I got it for a steal from a friend of mine. What do you think of gamer Megatron? Idk if you’re planning a review for him it gets a lot of hate but for some reason I enjoy him (minus the knees lmao) amazing vid as always perspective!
I had the same problem with the arm, and joint tightener never worked, so I heavily recommend putting masking tape on his arm peg.
That's not a bad idea. Or just gluing it down.
Hey, you don't owe anyone an apology. You're doing great.
this is gonna be interesting
Dammit, now you’ve made me desire the 2010 Deluxe. Hopefully I can find one at TFCon Toronto.
If you find one I expect that you will love it.
Gamer edition optimus built like a gears of war character
I like the 90s super hero proportions on the new figure.
D'ya plan on looking at Sandstorm? (the triple changer not the kingdom Scorponok repaint)
I always hated all the high moon designs but I have many international friends who asked me if I want their planet x grimlock because for some reason they bought two I don't know what to do now. Should i accept the offer or not
My GE arm falls off constantly, even after applying a ton of clear nailpolish. I also have a problem with one of the feet popping off every time you try to go from alt mode to robot mode. I ended up filing down the tab that holds that foot locked in so i can move it without it popping off. Then I ended up buying the upgrade kit for it, and it is a lot better...still not perfect, but it is definitely better.
Interesting. I don't think I've ever had the feet pop off my self. I didn't even know that was possible.
And sorry to hear about your arm, but it is basically what I expect these limbs to do.
It is a good enough figure that I think an Upgrade kit is warranted.
@@PerspectiveEnd the upgrade kit also came with two axes, and covers for the feet and a few gap fillers...it fixed every problem and complaint I had. I fixed the foot popping off by removing a bit of the friction point that holds a joint on the leg. Wish I could post pictures here. I still love the figure... It's just the one that I've had the most trouble with...
My Rankings of ᵍᵃᵐᵉʳ ᵉᵈᶦᵗᶦᵒⁿ so far
7) Barricade
- for obvious reasons
6) Bumblebee
- sub par and has QC issues
5) Cliffjumper
- bee with less issues
4) Sideswipe
- Let them cook
3) Megatron
- needed to many modifications to make passable (loose arm, knee tabs, etc.)
2) Starscream
- clears the horrifically low bar to be a good figure
1) Optimus
- clearly the budget went into this guy
I don't know how I'd feel about the Starscream, but that's pretty close to how I'd rank things my self.
My GE Optimus’s arm doesn’t fall off. My deluxe from back in the day came to pieces out of the box
babe wake up perspective just posted
I had said to a buddy of mine that if GE Prime had been the old deluxe upscaled to voyager and just retooling his chest for the matrix gimmick. A lot of the gaps and other issues would have been dealt with.
Now watching this video and the legacy beachcomber one, you should totally do a 86 Commander vs POTP Leader. That'd be fun ah
That's an interesting thought. I should consider that.
I have the old figure and love it. Only problem with it was a QC issue of one of the shoulders being incorrectly assembled. (I wanted it more for the figure then anything so I had to file it otherwise it did not transform)
When I first got my gamer edition prime, I was convinced I got a knockoff in an official box because of the rough quality. Otherwise I love it
Yeah it don't feel like it's the right quality to be official.
If GE gets a leader class, it'll have the production cost of a core class
Honestly if I get this I'm just going to glue the arm into place.
I always liked the idea of their arms turning into weapons. The whole point of cybertronians is that they can transform their bodies and change it however they want so it just makes sense that they would do the same for weapons. Why would transforming giants need to carry weapons when they can just turn part of their bodies into them anyway? Unless it's a special weapon like the starsaber from Prime then it would just be more logical to have gun arms and things.
Remember?
Still, my holy grail
Why do you have the record voice at super fast?. I have to change the setting to .75x slower just to heard and understand what you are saying?.
🎵Prime’s milkshake brings all the bots to the yard🎵
Im so happy somebody stops glazing Gamer Edition Prime, that thing makes me look like an athelete
You can add a layer of top coat or super glue to the gun arm post or hole, to make it thicker and not fall off. I did that for 86 kup
I've got both of these as well, and the only thing the new one does better, is scale with the rest of my collection.
So basically if they had just upscaled the old one then it would have been better.
@@PerspectiveEnd pretty much
It has a pretty good butterfly joint if you extend the shoulder out for transformation. I don't know why you didn't use it
the old deluxe should've been a voyager. Balloon up the size a bit, add in the axe and boom
This is how I treat it: Gamer Edition WFC Optimus is obviously better and far superior, with an opening chest, bigger axe, gun arm switching gimmick, better transformation, and bigger size. However, I didn't bother getting him despite finding him in person, because the older Generations figure still holds up. He may not have the articulation, but he still has the bulk, especially in vehicle mode, and the gun he comes with has that cool folding gimmick which, when added to his truck mode, makes it look like an armored personnel carrier. So, if you don't have the old one, get the new one. If you have the old one, you can lay off the new one and save the money for Legacy United Silverbolt.
I would not say that the new figure has the Better Transformation at all. The old figure is more unique, and more interesting on that front.
And having a couple better accessories does not sell the figure, especially when the gun for the old one was already good on accessories.
But I do agree that the new one is still good.
Fun fact did you know the old figures smoke stacks swivel?
Gamer edition is the biggest afterthought imo
Honestly kinda I’m tempted, my local has a bunch of them in stock marked down to 20. But on the other side I’m not mad into it. I did see a fantastic custom that turned it into a cybertronian Altmode for Optimus primal. It fit really well.
Wow I haven’t been on ur channel since the War for Cybertron Kingdom Line
With the amount of Optimus Prime,s that are being released now, you should try redoing the WOTB Optimus prime.
Ah, it’s been a while since a good old PE review, although I guess you could say this is a combination of that and a ‘which is best’ like the deathsaurus review
I wonder if this was designed by the same person who did the 86 ultra magnus as just like him, he is a WIDE boi
I will absolutely agree that I just like original more, he just looks like he has both style and rizz
GE is the original with all the personality and rizz sucked out.
To be fair that still leaves behind a good figure, but just one that's less.
I hope you have a windblade review coming
Honestly my thoughts on the GE version is more fateful in many ways
It's more robust and more accurate to the game model and cutscene model.
My only gripes with it is that the axe needs to be painted a bit more and painted the right color. The ion blaster needs to ba a bit bigger and more secure along with his arm
And he needs to get those blinkers on the back of his alt mode like he does in the game and the engine on the back like the old figure had because thats game accurate too
I don't think I would say that it feels more robust....
I was so excited for the GE toys. I get that the art style just like animated isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but those are those are the two series that got me into transformers, I remember waking up at 4 in the morning to watch animated with my dad before he left for work when I was 5 I believe.
I also remember playing wfc out in the living room with both my parents watching, it was so fun.
So imagine my excitement when I hear legacy is going to have animated figures and that SS is going to do one of my fav primes and my all time fav Megatron, I was ecstatic and this was right after kingdom had left me soured and I had fallen out of transformers.
First prowl, like the toy got be hopefully and excited for animated bee and prime, then they get revealed and I die in side.
Oh and my rage when I saw the GE toy photos, uh my rage was palpable. The plastic looked so cheap in the photos, bumblebee was all wrong, don’t even get me started on barcaied. I know SS start from alt to robot but for these that was a mistake, most people don’t care about these alt bricks and primarily like the robots, so going and screwing up their bot modes for things I’m never going to display already had me upset. But I held hope since Megatron wasn’t revealed so hopefully they’re taking more time with him to make him better.
Then reveal, okay I just want to bash my head into the designers face. Just how did you screw Meg’s up like that, primarily what the hell is that on his back, like I know the shoulder spike on the arm isn’t the right size but that just doesn’t matter, where’s his big decepticon logo that the old deluxe had. Why is his head look like it’s been hit on both sides with a hammer. I went and left a bunch of comments in a blind rage on the hasbro video showing him off asking how they managed to screw it up.
Oh and starscream while I do think he’s the best out of all of them, that’s not saying much taking into account his chest. Like they had to make his chest that big for transfomation, I do not buy that, the old deluxe didn’t do that, and like I know the designer is good, he made the beast wars inferno which is amazing.
This just was very disappointing with all these things, I know with how poor GE has done that hasbro upper jerks will take that as a lack of fan interest rather then because of them screwing it up.
Sorry for the rant, it’s honestly made me get less figures as I’m more particular now, I’m thinking about ordering legacy beach comber as g2 beachcomber was my first toy, I found it in a bin at value village. And thinking about legacy silverbolt and tiger hawk.
When you get 86 prime can you do wtb optimus prime 2.0?
I've had this low grade desire for that old figure for a long time and just didn't pull the trigger. so when the new one came out I thought oh here's one that will scratch that itch... And it just did not.
It seems like most of the new releases in the past 2 yrs, have cheaper and squishier plastic. I have never seen the game, so I do like this figure a lot. And the issue you're having with the arm coming off, I'm not having. In fact it's a struggle to get mine off at all
Wow. I've not heard of anyone having that issue yet. Most people have been telling me their's arms fall off just about as easy.
Ah yes, persoective end, the king of bad QC
I don't think I get bad QC abnormally frequently. It might just be that I'm willing to point it out more, though I don't think I do.
Optimus Prime has gotten a lot of love when it comes to toys recently.
The Haslab, the rover, Missing Link, Animated Optimus, he's even about to become a Target truck.
What's on your wishlist for Optimus toys?
"... But that name deserves all the disrespect in the universe"
But it's my ears that end up suffering each time you say it that way...
Apologies, I'll try to say it less often in the future.
Perspective will really just get on here, annoy us on purpose, then LIE about being sorry.
My guy, every comment of yours is just flogging Perspective without actual criticism, just bold claims and unnecessary insults. If this isn't bait, I think your time is better spent on something you actually ENJOY doing.
You wrote to in the description
Not Two
Found the original at a goodwill. I frickin hate him. Takes me 20 minutes to transform, tolerances are screwed, he can barely stand, and the bumblebee from the same line is taller than him!
So when's the Bumblebee comparison? (even tho we all know the clear winner)
Glad to see a figure I really liked covered the day before my birthday! Can’t wait for tomorrow because I get to spend it with my girlfriend! She is amazing and I am so glad I met her. So glad I met her!
Absolutely love the new version! Hated how small the older version was and absolutely hated he has no heel so he easily falls over every god damn time something slightly bumps into him.
Stop d ning God=Lord Jesus Christ or He will d n you to hell on judgement day. That is if you don't stop saying it.
Yeah the voyagers are obviously where the whole budget went, but the arms should’ve been designed better, for Optimus and Megatron (yes, him too) I just put a light coat of nail polish in the arm ports to fix them. Also, Starecream is really good once you get past the BIG legs