What's the Best Skyfire Second Impact: Bigger Is Better
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2023
- In today's video I barely mention how big I think Skyfire should be.
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"He's legends scaled."
Wow, I didn't expect him to be small.
"So, he's the size of a modern voyager."
Ah, I forgot we're dealing in Skyfire, the first Biggest Boy.
Indeed. Though to be fair that's because he's the OSKO, the original IF one was much Smaller, because they were trying to be Truer to him being the scale legends figure, even if it meant he was out of Scale if he was compared to other legends figures.
I feel like that was very confusingly worded from me.
Not if I buy him for my chug, making him a generic voyager 🌚
I honestly want him to film himself transforming a figure with a good transformation for the first time just to see him talk to himself like a crazy person
That could be fun, I should do that more often.
At this point I think the world is just trolling perspective at how these “moments” keep happen
Yeah the universe likes to mess with me.
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up Siege Skyfire coming with his Valkyrie armor. I know toy accuracy isn’t something you usually get excited for but when you can have it without compromising the show accuracy at all I think it’s worth bringing up. Honestly, I think the Siege figure is one of my favorite Transformers of all time. You can just feel the love for the character in every aspect of the toy.
I never go into accessories in What's the best. I don't really see any accessories as imperative to achieving the best status.
I think this may be the first WTB that technically has multiple choices for "the best", since it depends on what you what direction you take your collection in
The first WTB jetfire ties between the siege and fanstoys in the same sort of way
Except now I realize that was wrong. The FT doesn't have the right to hold the Siege's Jock.
Yeah this is the first time I think it's really been where the top 3 are all close enough and have such a Spread in role, that even though there is a best one, there is nothing wrong with picking the one that fits your collection most.
It is pretty great that a mainline figure is scoring so high; I was fortunate enough to get my Jet/Skyfire from my local toy collector's convention for high Leader price as opposed to full retail Commander price, and added a third-party antenna headpiece for "super mode."
And it's cool that in a Competition with figures this good, that a Legends figure can still find the way to be the best one.
That thumbnail got me giggling for solid 5 mins and now my cheeks and jaw are stuck and hurting.
I'm glad someone really appreciated all the work I went to for that.
He’s only Skyfire if you take any notice of the cartoon, in the comics, which are obviously the one true way of Primus, he’s Jetfire, which is why there’s a the slash between the names ;)
I will annihilate the Comic Scum.
@@PerspectiveEnd you can try, you will fail #rumbleisredfrenzyisbluemiragecan’tturninvisiblehecreatesmirages
Watching this made me realise how badly I need to track down the Siege one. With my collection being Generations, or anything that fits with them, and that figure is a must and yet I still don’t him. One day I will
They just rereleased him, try Entertainment Earth or Bigbadtoystore.
He was recently rereleased, and there's the OSKO one coming down the pipe too.
I definitely saw the Fanstoys face in the Magic Square figure. I remember having to double check when I first saw it to make sure I wasn't looking at the wrong figure.
It's weird and I don't know why it happened. I almost wonder if the face was the one thing they hadn't finalized yet, so to compete with NA they just rushed it out the door with the other figure's head.
Seeing the head of the Maketoys one being exposed on the underside of the jet reminds me of a spy camera.
I mean kind of, but like the Dorkiest version of that possible.
I like the fact your headcanon for jetfire is the armada one, glad to know it's not just me and a few others in that area (I mean I do call skyfire jetfire sometimes but not vice versa (like squares and rectangles))
I mean who else would it be?
@@PerspectiveEnd good point, I was probably thinking about ROTF jetfire when I wrote that, but now I'm re-realizing how little (in terms of popularity overall) he is
Excellent video. I'm really wanting the magic square version.
It's really fun, I think you'd enjoy it.
Thank you so much I needed to know which jetfire I should get
There are several good options here, so which are you leaning toward?
@@PerspectiveEnd won’t lie I’m think the MP
Buster Skywing does have heels. You have to rotate them down. You have them flat. Also in jet mode his toe area rotates and sits flush and his heels become a landing gear
I've tried rotating them, No matter what Orientation I put them in, he never feels stable.
20 whole minutes of PerspectiveEnd, today is a good day.
It's not quite 20 minutes, but if you round then yes.
The fact that the Magic Square version is as good as it is is probably related to the fact that its roughly the size of a Voyager. Although I don’t have any Magic Square figures but from what I could gather they are notorious for making overcomplicated Legends figures trying to make legend sized MP’s
I really depends from the side of the community. Lots of people think the slightly less complicated than a bayverse studio series figure transformation at this scale is fun, but you also have the side that think legends scale figures should be simpler desk toys that can be QUICKLY transformed.
Also, I would say the only overcomplicated MS figure is for sure their megatron
Here's the thing I think a lot of the time MP figures are over Complicated. They think they need to do more to achieve more, so a smaller figure, even a regular legends scale one can achieve what an MP can, if it goes for complex enough, while still being not too complex.
THAT NAME, wasnt used in cyberverse even though ITS THE SAME CHARACTER. the name is JETFIRE, adding on to this after I made the point. The name skyfire was used because of copyright or something BACK IN THE 80'S
I am aware that it was used for those reasons? What does it matter, it was the name used.
And Jetfire was a Completely Distinct dude. We cant allow hasbro to get lazy and mash the names into each other, because it's cheaper for them from a Copyright perspective.
@@PerspectiveEnd in cuberverse and siege he was called jetfire. the name of skyfire most likely hasnt been trademarked for years
Your Siege Skyfire is absolutely yellowing. The white was always kind of dull, but I can still yellowing at a glance, and that motherfucker is yellowing in a few spots. The shoulders and the flanks of the torso where the shoulders connect have that distinct “not quite bone white” that belays yellowing. There’s probably a couple other spots like that, but it’s hard to tell with the figure moving and CZcams being CZcams.
There are a not-insignificant number of figures from the WFC trilogy that NEED a package refresh on the simple fact that stuff released between 2018 and 2020 were made in a bad factory with bad plastic that actively rots when exposed to *air* (this is why most of these figures yellowed, despite not being removed from their boxes or being stored in low/no light)
I mean I remember it always looking dirty in places.
I mean I still here tales of new figures yellowing.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah, that is the figure yellowing in the box. like what happened to so many Netflix Megatrons (turning Bronze) and Shattered Glass Starscreams.
man, you don't ever forget the primordial terror of opening a box for the first time and releasing a severely discolored Netflix Soundwave.
Never realized how cool and stylized the Maketoys Jetfire looks to me, I might pick one up one of these days
It does look very cool, I just wish it was more fun to handle.
Thanks for your perspective! I'm a Magic Square fan despite the common criticisms of their choices in design and plastic (the use of nylon and their transformation scheme engineering facilitate each other), but Newage's EX (toy-inspired) decos are really pretty, especially their Jetfire!
Glad to give it to you. And honestly I love most of their transformations. The interesting thing about this Skyfire, is that the plastic doesn't really factor in. It requires none of the Gumminess of the nylon to work properly.
@@PerspectiveEnd I love their transformations too, and nylon feels pretty good (to me). I ended up having to offload most of my MS stuff, so I'll live vicariously through others' reviews, haha
Hello again, I’m here after watching several of your whats the best and I’m so happy to have “character development” I’m finding myself very much enjoying your content. Congratulations, you’ve earned my admiration and opinion validation. I’m so happy to see that there is figures you genuinely enjoy and love. And also you dislike bomburst so here’s a gold star (I hate that thing) and whilst I like blitzwing, that’s only because I almost never transform him and I didn’t pay for him. I fucking hate the jet and it’s never gone into that mode and never will. You really have shown what you said in our previous conversation. again, good job
I predicted this video back in the masterpiece skyfire review, surely I get a trophy now
You did yes. And I wanted to get it out Immediately after that, but Reveals go in the way.
I think it's fair to say masterpiece is back, and I hope it stays back masterpiece was my favourite action figure line ever
I hope they stay back now.
Jetfire was leader of the autobots in Europe for a while due to an inverse of the Jetfire debacle in the US where Diaclone already licensed distribution of the "Convoy" figure, so Hasbro didn't want to give a competing company free advertising. Thus, until they worked out a deal to regain distribution rights, Jetfire was leader of the Autobots.
In unrelated news, MS-02EX, the "fixed" version of Light of Peace is shipping from their site and seems to have some pretty major upgrades for the $10 price increase. More robust looking plastic (need to confirm this though), better painted matrix, and the addition of his Jetpack to take a steaming dump on MP-44 even more by having a bunch of accessories and still not costing an arm and a leg.
In actually related news... the oversized KO's about the same size as fans Toys... is it even that much bigger than the regular siege? On the Show Z store, I'm seeing comments saying that Siege was about 12 inches and the KO will be 13-14. Not exactly a huge jump in scale...
That is actually a Facet of the Story I forgot.
I'm holding off on buying that right now because I don't know how much better it will be, and what will I do with the old one if it really is a LOT better.
Yeah I'm not sure how much bigger it will be. Usually those OSKO sizes are tentative before the figure is released.
@@PerspectiveEnd Perhaps if you got in contact with MS, they might be willing to work out an exchange/deal if you tell them you're a reviewer?
Skyfire: Was I a good boy?
PerspectiveEnd: You were the best.
I've been waiting for such a video for a long time with a comparison of at least most of the figures of Skyfire. The comparison is quite fair, as are the conclusions.
I am pleased with this trend, as a result of which we got quite good figures. Hopefully, there will be no fewer of them in the future.
Maybe someday Skyfire will return to some media in his true image and with his real name. Maybe someone will notice the growth of his popularity in order to bring him back at least somewhere. Although it is not much to believe, but hope dies last.
Happy to have finally provided the video you needed.
I do think I covered all the ones that had any hope of being the best.
PE you have the same Skyfire and Jetfire philosophy as do I, they are 2 different characters. I just produced a Lego Skyfire and a Lego Jetfire video with some stop motion at the beginning.
I honestly don't know why other people refuse to accept this take. I wouldn't even call it a take, it's the obvious truth of the matter. They are 2 different people and it doesn't matter what Hasbro Intended, the result is the result.
Some Fanstoys figures apparently have a sticker that says they have a 30/100 qc. Fanstoys Rouge had a sticker in Jobbythehong's review
That's just the "Inspected by" thats the weird one the Cult leaves on because that's just what you do with FT stuff.
May I crucify your combiner wars skyfire?
I swear I didn't start a cult
That doesn't sound like a Very opposite of me thing to do.
@@PerspectiveEnd I have a grudge against him, this is personal
I always blame Harmony Gold for the issue but then years later he's now freed from this curse.
Skyfire/Jetfire has been like gone for decades, until Siege came and his masterpiece version, loving him!
The Tf classics line in 2006 brought back Jetfire.
Indeed, it's nice to see Harmony Gold being forced to go home without their ball.
Wow I just watched the first Skyfire video a few days ago and now we get this? I am blessed. I don't have a Skyfire (I'm not super into him) but the Newage and Magic Square ones look pretty great.
Skyfire has always been one of my Favorites.
And you never saw the first video before now?
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah I guess I never got around to watching it or maybe it was before I subscribed. I have remedied that mistake!
Hi, KO Upscale Siege owner here. While I can't speak on the quality relative to the official cause I don't own it, I can verifiably recommend him, particularly if you like a giant jetfire. He has a light up feature in the eyes but I haven't got the batteries for it, he is also very good quality despite being a KO, some of the tolerances are super tight though.
He also comes with a display stand for jetmode, the base of which can attach to the bottom of the jet and complete it if you're in for that.
The KO Siege is basically titan class sized figure at somewhere between leader and commander price, I'd personally recommend him.
Great video. I only got 3 Skyfires, the Titanium War Within version, the cheap, no articulations Walgreens version and the Siege, which is awesome but way too busy with details.
Crap, I forgot the Titanium one exists.
I wouldn't call the Siege one too busy on the details?
@@PerspectiveEnd Well, it is, but it is also in line with the rest of the WFC "aesthetic" so thats that. Either way i like it, though the masterpiece and third party versions kick its ass.
Im thinking about getting the Shattered Glass Magic square one. I like that he's voyager sized. A bit steep on the price though.
Yeah, that's the problem with 3P Legends, they are fantastic, but it feels like you are buying a MUCH larger figure.
The toys are the backbone of this franchise, so toy naming schemes take priority for me.
I disagree on both counts.
The Backbone of the franchise is the Media. Without that no one would care about the toys.
Look at the Gobots, bad show came out first, no one cared, Transformers had a far better show, and people love it to this day, despite G1 toys being more primitive in a lot of instances than Gobots.
I interpret the Siege's paint on the legs, etc. as heatshielding. Commander Sky Lynx has it, too, in a similar color, with similar placement. The vast majority of it is under them in vehicle mode, and what isn't ends up right where you'd expect the re-entry overheating to be. The Duocon shuttle team repaint also has that same paint, but they're covered in it, I believe with flavor text about it being a protective coating.
I have MakeToys' Laser Prime trailer & Quantron. I liked them, but couldn't afford their/ 3rd party prices. RtS G2 Prime needed his trailer, & I managed to get Quantron for about what Legacy Menasor costs (think it was at least $100 off). Quantron's a little small, compared to Menasor, but then I remember Grimlock hastily built them out of junk from Unicron, so it can be excused a bit.
Are you talking about the Off White he's painted in?
The Heck is Quantron?
Yes, the ugly off-white paint on Siege Skyfire's legs, etc. I always assumed it was heatshielding, & Sky Lynx having it, as literal heatshielding, just confirmed it for me.
You didn't know MakeToys made a Computron?
Not trying to be that person but do you happen to have or plan on doing a review for TF generations battalion jetfire? I plan on getting it an amazon but IDK if i should get it.
a few questions
Do you prefer Skyfire or Jetfire?
Do you like Skyfire as a scientist like g1 or being 2nd in command of the autobots like armada?
I didn't even know that thing existed. Is that thing just an Authentics figure?
I prefer Skyfire.
I like him being a Scientist.
"Have no fear, Skyfire is here!"
huh, this might be what I hoped for when I wanted to hear PE's reflection on prototype / final product reactions to MP Skyfire
Oh yeah? How is that?
@@PerspectiveEnd recently (2 weeks ago) left the below comment on the Fanstoys Phoenix review:
Kat: "So uhm... how did this vid age with the proper release of the masterpiece?"
PE: "Poorly honestly. The Actual MP makes me go "What coolaid was I drinking when I reviewed this."
Kat: "@PerspectiveEnd can we get some retrospective of you analyzing changes between the prototype images and in-hand shots of MP Skyfire?"
It's the fire of the sky, skyfire.
Was a con but now a bot, skyfire.
Had several legal troubles, Skyyyyyyfire.
I'm not picking up the tune you are clearly trying to imply.
honestly didnt even realize there were this many skyfire figures idk why
always thought the poor guy had like 2 toys ever
And there were still 3 missing from this video.
@@PerspectiveEnd I need a damn skyfire
Hey perspective did you ever make a video explaining the grading process for these wtb videos
I did yes.
czcams.com/video/G5Nnxu9FW2w/video.html&ab_channel=PerspectiveEnd
Do you think Siege Thundercracker fits well enough with Blitzwing and Triggerhappy or should I stick with Needlenose for now?
After Blitzwing was exiled, two blue Decepticon jets followed him. They had doubted the Decepticon cause for a long time, but snaped when Blitzwing was exiled for fighting off the Quintessons with the help of the Autobots.
And that's the Blue Blitz trio.
Legacy Leader Sandstorm is probably like Legacy Blitzwing and Siege Astrotrain, it's Leader price because of triple changer engineering. That's how I know he's the G1 version.
I saw mainline ROTB Airazor today.
Gorgeous.
Welp.
Time to wait for a year.
The new stuff is double the price without a huge discount.
Elita is still horribly distributed (with no signs of discount no less), and I haven't seen Skullgrin's price go low enough. Also Armada Starscream's completely absent from retail.
Should I buy 86 Perceptor or Siege Astrotrain first?
86 Perceptor is 23 bucks and Siege Astrotrain is 32 bucks.
Thundercracker as a character not so much. Thundercracker is the dude on the Decepticon side who doesn't like the violence, and thinks it's all gone too far, so Triggerhappy and Blitzwing would not be his friends.
Unless we are talking Post, getting kicked out of the Decepticons for working with the Autobots to stop the quintessons Blitzwing.
Wait where did you see that?
I think you would be pretty happy with either Atrotrain or Perceptor if you got them for a good price, and both of those are good prices. Flip a coin I guess.
Maketoys Cross Dimensions lines is such a tragedy man, I loved their Optimus and Megatron molds and was so excited for their Shockwave and any other figures they would put it. It’s been several years since those days and I’m sure the line as been abandoned😪
I mean Maketoys is just struggling to survive right now.
I can only assume they put all their stock into their Masterpiece line and in the end it just wasn’t competing with the top players, such a shame, I enjoyed a lot of their stuff, from chug to masterpiece
Random question, but are there and bay former designs you like. For me I think blackout is a pretty good design tied with the last knight barricade.
I like TLK Barricade. That's just about the only one I actually like.
I have the sg siege skyfire and it’s a really good diffuse I love the transformation and it’s pretty accurate to the the classic interpersonal of the character, the jet looks pretty good to, i was really looking forward to the ko oversized siege jetfjre but when I saw the mp I thought myself to save money to buy a ko mp skyfire, fanstoys is really cool to but it’s to pricy for me and imo I prefer the head and face in ft than the mp because the mo head seems kinda creepy and off for me I mean it’s accurate but not for me, and also about make toys, what happened to them? Haven’t heard from them for a while but their figures seem really cool
I'm pretty sure Maketoys has either Gone Under, or they only do rereleases now and not make ne products any more.
So what have you decided to get for your MP Scale Skyfire?
@@PerspectiveEnd I’ll just wait for the ko of mp skyfire,the fanstoys looks really good but way to fucking pricy,ko siege is goood to but I already have the sg so I’ll wait for a ko of mp skyfire
Make toys is probably one of my favourite companies, their aesthetic is probably one of my favourite. And that optimus prime and megaton is just 👌🏻
I hear their Prime is better, and I love their Megatron. This things transformation s Cancer.
When I got the siege skyfire and saw the name Jetfire on the box I took my sharpe and crossed it out and then wrote skyfire next to it
You did the lords work that day.
looks like that IDW Skyfire the Iron Factory figure was trying to be accurate to was based on the 2006 Classics Jetfire
Indeed I believe it was, so in a Weird way I did cover the 06 figure in this.
Any plans on doing a core class catch up? They’re the only figures I collect so I’d love to hear your thoughts on the new ones.
I do plan to do them soon hopefully.
The legacy blaster actually has some toe down it's just really tight and it might damage the plastic
What is this about legacy Blaster? Did I mention him in the video?
See, I just love how we live in a sort of renaissance of good Skyfire figures to the point where you have a perfect one regardless of what collection you're going for. Are you a Masterpiece collector? Then get the Masterpiece Skyfire! Are you a CHUG collector? The Siege Commander Class Skyfire is for you! Are you a Legends collector? Then get yourself the Magic Square Skyfire!
Also, side note, I'm glad Masterpiece Skyfire found that nice middle ground of being extremely cartoon accurate without having an over-engineered transformation to get to it (MP-44 Optimus/ MP-36 Megatron) or having gimped plastic quality (MP-47 Hound).
It just feels like the cartoon accurate style of the newer masterpieces but with the simple yet effective transformations of the older masterpiece figures.
And you aren't Short Changed on a one of those. They are all fantastic.
Yeah, I'm thrilled that the MP Skyfire didn't wind up a mess.
He is the New MP Style of Supreme accuracy above all else done right.
Early IDW Skyfire was based on Classics Jetfire, so in a roundabout way, Iron Factory SF is based on THAT figure
So in a Roundabout way I did cover the classics figure.
The whole Jetfire/Skyfire shennanegens explained Here: czcams.com/video/2shdsYMFTH4/video.html&ab_channel=RodimusPrimal
I am aware of the whole Harmony Gold Saga.
Did you know buster sky wing's heels form the back landing gear and i think it looks cooler in the movie Jetfire deco. And good news, maketoys is making a comeback with highbrow
I can't say that I KNEW that, but I did theorize it, despite the fact that seemed really Improvised.
I hope they can stick the landing.
oh yeah, I have the KO version of the commander. he's huge but that comes at the cost of him not being able to be held by other figures. kinda wish I had the wrist sword and that the helmet had the antenas tho.
too big for the headmasters as well. althought the shoulders have added tabs so it doesn't detach when you move the arms.
What do you mean he's too big for headmasters?
@@PerspectiveEnd the spaces meantt for headmasters are also oversized and as such tthey fitt loosely and look small.
Oh like the cockpit and backpack.
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah. also the handles on the bottom are too big for anyone to hold.
to make up for it there was a stand included that can plug on the bottom in jet mode and act as a gap filler. quite alot of value for 100 bucks.
Seeing it from all angles in this also showed me how gappy the torso sides are on the FT too, especially around the arm.
While a solid back is admirable, it is a bit of a pointless sacrifice if an angle more statistically likely to be on display looks that barely held together.
Loving my NewAge, but as a Ride-or-die Skyfire fan, will likely look into getting the MS too, probably on reissue, as none of my trusted shops have it in stock thus far. And not checking TfSource. They are usually the FT of shops, highest priced, but fine to window shop if you're wanting an idea what's in the works with better studios.
Which figure are you talking about with the Gappyness?
@@PerspectiveEnd Fanstoys.
The underarm to chestular region.
Umm I have the Ironfactory one…
Your missing a lot actually
The one I got came with his blaster, 3 different pairs of hands and a cool head sculpt based off the helmet he wore in the Stormbringer comics.
While yes it’s everything else is iffy I love it because it’s a cheap and affordable Jetfire based off a design from IDW with decent possability
Oh this absolutely came with all that stuff, but if you notice I didn't talk about the Accessories for any of the figures. Accessories is not a Category that I ever consider in What's the Best.
I'd say it has better than Decent Poseablity.
1) It's actually Thrilling 30 Jetfire. Anyway, I had this once. I think he was okay, but I really hate the hollow forearms. For his transformation, the part I hated the most was pulling the plane midsection to form his chest. That part required flexing of plastic in the axle. His wings, chest, and shoulders were clipped into place with weak connectors, making them easy to come undone.
2) Maketoys, if I am not mistaken, it is actually meant to be Sky Shadow, they just retooled it to be Jetfire. If that is truly the case, then it is definitely not a good idea to just retool a figure to another figure then just call it a day.
3) Gosh, I loathe Iron Factory designs with a passion. Look, I respect that you like them. But I saw their original Ultra Magnus and Fallen Megatronus, I really hate their design.
4) I own Siege, still in the box. I swear, he is yellowing but very slowly.
Yeah I was getting confused because of the CW Seekers.
2 I do not believe that to be the case. This is designed to Integrate with their Optimus, which Skyshadow wouldn't do. Like this fully Disassembles for that purpose.
I can get that, but a few points. Ultra Magnus is not supposed to look Like Ultra Magnus, but Maximus Ambus, which it almost perfectly pulls off. And then their version of Megatronus, looks just like the Dream Wave one. Those are actually two of their least Stylized figures.
How can you tell if he's still in his closed face box?
I'm guessing I am far from the first person to say it, but Jetfire is the name for the Macross-based, faction-switching scientist in the Marvel, Dreamwave & IDW comics.
Jetfire is the name of the guy from the UT. Skyfire is the name of the Faction Swapping guy.
And now we're going to read the story of Little Purple Hood. Once upon a time there was a toothless young scag everyone called Little Purple Hood because they wore a sun faded, Grimace themed hoodie. One day their mother assigned the important task of taking Titanium Jetfire to their sick grandmother who lived in a shack by a pound down in the projects. Midway into their journey Little Purple Hood was ambushed by a gang of rabid coyotes who stabbed her and absconded with Titanium Jetfire. The end.
Your mind is unsound my friend.
But I did forget Titanium Skyfire exists yes.
thank u I alwalys thought that skyfire and jetfire were the same person
Yeah they were supposed to have the same name, but they never wound up being that way. Skyfire was always called Skyfire, and Jetfire was always called Jetfire, so when it came down to actual Reality they were only ever separate guys.
Maketoys jetfire has his heels become landing geer :)
They are like stuck out to the side for me.
ROTF Jetfire has the markings of a Shattered Glass Skyfire. The only thing retained from G1 Skyfire was the fact he went from evil Decepticon to good Autobot.
What do you mean he has the Markings.
@@PerspectiveEnd the fact that stuff like the colour, alt mode, accent, design, and size are the exact opposite of G1 Jetfire *insert the clip from the ROTF roast.*
Would I be able to do a what's the best on the hasbro pulse shattered glass line unless you have one planned I figured I would ask for your permission before making it.
Feel free to do a What's the Best on what ever you want. I don't have a Copyright.
I want the toy version of the Newage, I am a supporter of the Jetfire (because that was the toy name) visor, so it looks good to me.
The "It was the Toy's Name" argument drives me actually crazy on every character it's utilized with.
Especially Rumble.
Yeah, but the toy Jetfire is a different guy from the cartoon Skyfire.
Not too bad for a what's the best and yeah I was shocked that #1 was the magic square one was but still was best for all.
Yeah, most people expected the MP to win, but I'd been pretty sure for the longest time that I knew which it would be, and it turned out how I expected.
I just love how in the first wtb skyfire you had that long comparison About the siege and the fanstoys and now you just didn't even care and just craped on the fanstoys(not like you were wrong)
Yeah, I don't know what I was smoking in the original video. I have no idea how I thought it was even close. Like the FT isn't terrible, but it's Ugly, Inaccurate, Over Priced, and the Transformation just isn't as good, plus the altmode messes up the nosecone, in not only being stepped in the front but all it's angles are wrong.
Did you know that Jetfire was almost called Fireball? Thankfully they changed it.
I did not. That's weird.
@@PerspectiveEnd the name was later used for two other guys.
I know I’m going to hate this for not being able to afford any of them due to my barely better than broke status. Then again, Jetfire/Skyfire was never really my favorite bot, so I don’t mind not being able to buy one too much. Also, since you made your opinion on TfP’s designs clear I wanted to ask about just the one I am confident you haven’t mentioned yet. What did you think of TfP’s design of Shockwave. As someone who considers it one of the best designs of my favorite transformer, I always like getting different opinions from people.
It is not a Bad design for shockwave, though a little strange for that Particular version as he is one of the most agro looking but one of the least agro characterizations.
@@PerspectiveEnd I personally like that it shows just who that Shockwave is: a scientist who WILL beat the shit out of almost anybody who disturbs his research. I can think of it like a cobra, for example. An extremely effective intimidation display to avoid unneccesary confrontation, and the lethality to quickly end that confrontation (besides a few exceptions).
Brother asked a very good question
What was the question.
@@PerspectiveEnd "what's the best skyfire" Also, it's a Zakir naik reference
Man, i love jetfire
As do I clearly.
I think a rule of thumb for ol jetfire: fauxform or have no waist. Not both
Exactly, it should not be both.
That 3rd one looks like RID Gigatron and Siege Jetfire had a baby.
What third one? The Siege one? Because it's both the third one I talked about and the one that took third place.
@@PerspectiveEnd make toys buster Skylink, he looks like Gigatron and Skyfire had a son who stole Deathsaurus' helmet
Where was the Classics figure? I heard it’s pretty cool. Now that I think about it, I’m aware the What’s the Best isn’t the most comprehensive list, but I would’ve liked to see this figure here.
That's like the one I don't have. Well that and the G1. And I'm sure it was cool back in the day, but based on reviews I've seen, it'd probably be the worst one by modern sensibilities.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, isn’t T30 Jetfire’s alt mode going for an F-22 crossed with an F-14 feel because of the Macross Valkyrie and G1 toy being based on an F-14?
As far as I know it's just an F14.
You've probably had this suggestion about 1000 time but you could do a what's the best transformers tv shows and or what's the best transformers movies although with the movies I feel like ik the rankings
Actually I cant say that I have. Maybe one time before but it doesn't stand out in my head. Id need to think up a criteria for that but I might try.
It's Thrilling 30's/Generations Skyfire. There was never a Combiner Wars Skyfire. The CW Leader Class Seekers used that mold. Jeebus. 😂
I guess you are Technically correct about that, I was getting confused because of the CW Seekers.
@@PerspectiveEnd sorry for busting your balls but I just had to for shitting on ER Cliffjumper..... j/k. Or was i?
i'd actually love to hear your opinion over the papercraft skyfire (only the macross valkyrie design unfortunately), because for something you print and make yourself, i think its SHOCKINGLY good
Where is this Paper Craft Skyfire? I would love to look into it.
@@PerspectiveEnd should be the first result if you directly google "papercraft jetfire" used to be on a website called paperrobots1999 but the website got taken down a while back unfortunately
@@PerspectiveEnd CZcams keeps deleting my reply. It should be the first (or first three) result that pops up if you directly google "papercraft jetfire". It used to be on a website called paperrobots1999 but got shut down unfortunately
Is the iron factory oversized version worth it for 24 dollars?
I really want the siege one so much but it really hard to find in my country (I live in Thailand)
It’s hard for just about everyone to find. Distribution is fucked, making figures rarer than they really ought to be, and therefore much more expensive than they really ought to be.
The Oversized KO of that may prove a bit easier when it finally drops.
Been a while since I used my main channel, damn.
What's new- HOLY SWEET CONOLY
What made you stop using this particular channel?
@@PerspectiveEnd Because I created a new channel and wanted to spend time on it
Hello I am 2nd channel
I want all of these figures
I don't want them, because I have them. :)
@@PerspectiveEnd I know but I’ve never had a jetfire
For the longest time, I thought the real name of skyfire from G1, was jetfire. I know it’s embarrassing
It's understandable honestly.
@@PerspectiveEnd I guess.
Well, I have been busy with college/univeristy and currently looking for a job. So, I have not been paying attention to the communities...
I see. That will soak up your time yes.
Now we wait for what's the best omega supreme.
I am keeping the IDW Magic Square Voyager-sized as my main Skyfire. If I get a chug, it´ll be when Legacy does the Armada Jetfire. And you just know it´ll happen.
So you have the OSKO too, or do you have the original IF figure?
@@PerspectiveEnd The one I have is Voyager-class sized, and it´s the one with cool cannon gimmicks and based on IDW Stormbringer design.
this is a real bingler here
Bingler you say?
I finally got my siege skyfire so i can finally stoo dreaming about losing it
What you mean dreaming about losing it? How would having it prevents that? Wouldn't it just increase the dreams?
Hope to pick up Siege Jetfire soon
Didn't they say they were re-releasing it soon?
@@PerspectiveEndIt is actually slated for a rerelease under the Void Rivals banner and it’s said to include Darak and Solila figures too from what I’ve heard
At least the fanstoys one has chromed and light piped eyes so that’s something
It does have that, and that is cool, it's just too bad that's not more common.
1:26 I thought that mold was from Thrilling 30. Did Hasbro rerelease it in Combiner Wars? Or am I totally off base here?
You are correct, they retooled it to make a set of Seekers in CW and I got confused by that.
@@PerspectiveEnd that’s kinda cool. I’ve seen those Seekers and I’m ashamed to say I never noticed they were retools. It’s pretty clear in retrospect too.
T30 Skyfire is a good mold to make Seekers outta. For the time, anyway. I’m happier with the Siege version. I also own some ERs, but they’re disappointing. I hate how Hasbro basically upscaled the classics figure, yet completely failed to make it feel truly modern. How could they not have engineered a waist swivel or wrist rotation? You’d think Hasbro would want their follow ups to the glorious Siege Tetrajet Seekers to be as good, if not better. They shoulda made a new mold entirely.
Could you fucking imagine if they used the Classics Jetfire mold as a basis for Siege’s iteration? Wow. That woulda been crap beyond crap. I own Classics Jetfire and I hate it now. It was the first Jetfire I’d ever owned. I was just excited to have him. I didn’t care about articulation or accuracy or anything way back then. My tastes have been refined to the point I can no longer stomach the figure. I regret wasting money on Toyhax decals for it. Thought if the deco was better, I’d like it more. All I did was pretty up a turd some.
I do like the head sculpt and helmet though. I’m glad Hasbro imported that little play feature to Siege, more or less. The alt-mode is a fine generic scifi plane, I feel, but a miserable Jetfire.
On an aside. I think it would be rad to get a Titan sized Jetfire so he could scale better with CHUG. You an me share the same opinion when it comes to how huge he’s supposed to be.
You mentioned an upscaled Siege Jetfire was being made? I’ll bet that’ll be frigging gigantic!
Mmm I wonder if you could call the combinerwars Skyfire, Jetfire considering it is based far more on the toy than the actual Skyfire from G1, you with the alt mode and head clearly designed to have the visor on
I mean it was called Jeftire in the comic.
I always hate when people complain about Skyfire and Starscream not having waist swivels. 1: its not G1 accurate 2: it breaks the sculpt 3: they pose just fine without the waist swivel.
Well I mean I'm actually one of those guys. While I support there being at least 1 version of Each that doesn't have it for supreme accuracy, I do think that most probably should have it.
And honestly like the DS version of Starscream's waist cut isn't even bad at all.
Surprised a lot of these didn't have a walker mode.
I think most of them actually do. I just didn't bring it up because I don't see the point.
Is Ms Skyfire taller or shorter compared to Siege Optimus. I'm thinking of getting him
He is just Barely taller than Optimus.
His name is Jetfire. He's called Skyfire in the cartoon because of trademark/legal probelms but his name has always been Jetfire. The Jetfire from Mini-Con Trilogy has nothing to do with anymore than Armada Optimus Prime has to do with the OG Optimus Prime. So unless you're going to insist we call the original Optimus Prime "Convoy" because Armada Optimus Prime exists - you're just being silly.
And what does that have to do with anything. So what if that's what he was called for what ever reason. I know a guy who has the wrong name because the Nurse didn't know how to spell what she was told.
The fact of the matter is that for what ever reason that is his name. It's Skyfire.
And no you are being silly. You are giving a character a name that's not theirs's just because it's what Hasbro intended but never did, meanwhile it's a name directly associated with a character who that name 100% belonged to.
TIL that PerspectiveEnd is unaware that the Marvel comic exists.
The Marvel Comics don't coouuuuUUUNT!!!
0:45-0:52 I get what you're saying, the way I see it this: if it's going for the Robotech look (which I think is what the UT Jetfires were going for anyway), it's Jetfire. If it's going for the cartoon, it's lame😁. Jokes aside, I firmly agree with you on the opinion "face masks will always be cooler", and is how I display my seige Jetfire.
To be fair yes face masks are cooler, but I'm not looking for my Giant Science Boi to be maximum cool.
"It's a shame Maketoys never found their audience because they didn't do G1"
You would've hit a revelation there, if only one of your criteria for ranking it wasn't how G1 it is.
It's the Format of this show what can I say. I'm trying to find a specific thing with it.
I still appreciate what they do with their stylization, it's just not what this show is trying to locate.