ONE PIECE D&D: MARINES #23 | "AERIAL ACE" | Tekking101, Lost Pause, 2Spooky & Briggs
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THE 23rd EPISODE OF One Piece Dungeons and Dragons MARINES!! featuring
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THERE IS A LONG DISCUSSION IN THIS EPISODE THAT MAY HAVE VERY SPLIT OPINIONS ON PLEASE BE NICE TO ME IN THE COMMENTS
Also end story at 1:54:29
by the end of this…….he might not have anchor arms
Long rest is perfectly legitimate. They are in an abandoned hospital and the Myth pirates don't have a really good communication network. No surveillance den den mushi or anything. They don't even have reference points to navigate the labyrinth since the layout is always changing. One wrong turn fucks up a route. It's up to chance whether they find the guys or not.
I think it was definitely fair for rustage to at least give them a chance to long rest since they did do preparation and the odds of it working while low shouldn't have been zero. And well in the worst case tpk i guess.
Dont be so hard on yourself Rustage, you did the right thing, the party was all out of resources and unless they find Giro and he is as strong as Kai said It would be a tpk, on the other hand doing long rest’s could takes away the dificulty so the solution should be:
1- Se if its possible to happen (do they know where the party is, are they well organized, is the party well hidden)
2- Let it up to chance with the possibility of things getting even worst to create a risk
3- Have consequences happen because they let time pass (Anchoor Arms geting captured and tortured)
4- Increse the dificulty, it isnt a reset for the party, now that you know that they are at full power, mabye the enimes are in groups, maybe they make defensive possitions or traps and the final battle is not only Tavrock; the party got stronger so so do the enimies
You did 1-3 so now the only thing left is (4) to make things dificult now for the full power party instead of the weakened one
It is fine. You at least gave them a chance to long rest after all their preparations. And to be fair to them, it was quite needed unless you had another way to help them restore hp/spells. I am just glad nobody got super upset or too confrontational/passive aggressive about it. Though I admit it’s probably never fun when all the players are debating with the DM (and can sort of feel like being ganged up on).
And now there is more of a timer with Anchor Arms and Mako now. Though it would result in more suffering for poor Anchor Arms, technically each long rest will get easier and easier since they will be killing more and more irreplaceable mythical zoans each day. Whether it be because fewer pirates can patrol, they are grouping up and covering less ground or even that some weaker ones might avoid the squad so as not to die.
Y'all really risked a TPK on a coin flip. William would be proud 🥲
I mean unless rustage was going to interfere with something like making Kai's uncle show up and support them, they were in for a TPK either way. I doubt they would've managed both scorpion guy and minotaur without a longrest
So… Gus most definitely tried to kill the crew by sending them to the labyrinth
I mean Rustage did straight up said that the moment Gus give them the assignment
True and it gives them more of a reason to get rid of Gus
@@PhuNguyen-ph6lx I meant like gus is working with tavrock because tavrok knew gus but not girio which is suspicions since they both share a base, but tavrock only knows one of them.
Consider jeppard worked with the Hito pirates, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say Gus wanted them to die or maybe works with the myth pirates to some extent.
Maybe he was the one who told Jiro that his father was there without informing him about the dangers.
@@mr.badaim9124 it also makes me wonder if jiro even arrived at the island at all as the crew hasn't seen hide or hair of him being there
Damn, the crew are gonna get major trauma if Anchor Arms dies because they insisted on long resting 😭😭😭
Florence 2.0
worth it
Let's hope he's like Cyril and lives.
Would it be better or worse if it was Kais grandpa who died?
@@wolfspider2034 If you mean if Kai's Grandpa(KG) died instead of Anchor Arm, then better in my opinion. KG is basically a shell of his former self and might be a mercy if he died. KG raveged a town and knowing the World Government, they would kill him for his fruit. They would execute him as "punishment". Also Kai would be effected, but he was content with thinking he was dead. Anchor Arms would effect everyone and one comment says everyone would feel guilty about leaving him to long rest.
Its a good thing shwabadi isn't here to be charmed by the wiles of little feather 2.0
Na this is big feather
@@silveraxolotl7153 what if big feather had an older sister?
@@ambz17 bigger feather
Out of context though, both Greyl and Little Feather are hot
He asked about her on X
That last bit was the most INTENSE moment I’ve ever experienced in this session!!!
Branch 101 Performance Review #23:
Kai: Use of military hand signs could use some work. Took the "Ghost Blaster" back from Hoover, before dropping it. His scream from seeing the banshee still rings in my ears. Introduced his "Mako's -javelin- Tsunami" technique against Grayl, a powerful ranged strike.
Belle: Took hold of the "Ghost Blaster" Kai dropped, utilizing it against Grayl.
Bradley Briggs: Absolutely TERRIFIED of ghosts. A bit too confident in his stealth inside the hospital. Introduced the "Sneaky Knee" technique against Grayl, kneeing her in the spine from behind. Performed the maneuver that lead Grayl to her own demise.
Yokan: Ain't afraid of no ghosts, destroyed the banshee. As a cat, has an inherent half-advantage against griffons.
Damian: Utilized his "Web Grenade", denying Grayl a means of escape by covering the hole in the ceiling. Thunder gauntlets continue to pay dividends, tactics wise.
Choppa: Provided artillery support against Grayl (⌐■_■) Helped search the hospital for medkits, finding one :D Very good at crying sounds ;-;
Taiga Kibbleton: A bit *too* into being gripped by Grayl. Ingested suspect substances.
CASUALTY REPORT:
Yokan: Stab wound from Grayl's beak, rendered unconscious after lacerations from Grayl's talons, returned to fighting condition via a medkit applied by Bradley.
Damian: Lacerations from Grayl's talons, rendered unconscious by a stab wound from Grayl's beak, returned to fighting condition via Choppa rebooting his system.
Taiga Kibbleton: Lacerations from Grayl's talons, bruises from being gripped and thrown across the room. Slipped onto the ground in a mad rush, no lasting damage.
Raj: Lacerations from Grayl's talons, rendered unconscious via a stab wound from Grayl's beak, returned to fighting condition via a Damian "Sour Patch".
(Anchor Arms is still running the restaurant. Heather's scared of Grayl, can't blame her, elated to see Grayl dead. Raj is absolutely not scared of ghosts, or griffons. Very risky choice to get a full 8 hours of rest while in this labyrinth while there's an active search effort against them(and Anchor Arms is isolated, that might be a problem as well), but this crew has assembled an admirably sophisticated set of counter-measures, let's see how this pans out. Good news is the Myth Pirates are down a bird of prey commander, and also Happy Birthday, Tekking.)
[Hastily scrawled handwritten note]: Kai's grandfather missing, Anchor Arms MIA. Not good.
You should update Anchor Arms
This is so much effort and idk why i love this so much but its so good. WELL DONE!!!
Bradley missed an opportunity to call the move Lumbar Lamprey or something like that
I wonder if this man, the one writing the reports, has some kind of pressence erasing devil fruit... Or an omniscient one...
You should at some point write on anchor arms. He is an official member
As a DM myself, i say you made the best possible choice. The risks were made clear and the gamble was taken and very clear consequences will happen as a result either way. This was like a 1 in a Million circumstance that would never come up in any normal campaign, let alone a One Piece one
That being said, this episode was easily the best so far. An incredible fight where everyone contributed high damage and clutching a victory in a near no win scenario. These sorts of sessions are why i love DnD
No offense near close victory with two other bosses left over and no real proper heals or hit dice? What you expect the players to do on this overtuned situation? No offense but if the purpose of this "dungeon" was not meant to kill the players than it totally overtuned
its not actually 1 in a million, this happened in the first campaign in blue bloods territory and rustage convinced them to keep going (although the situation wasnt as dire in terms of hitdice)
Need a "I'm gonna cut this out" tally for not cutting something out 🤣
Nah he'd cut it out
I like to kind of imagine that Tavrok losing any of his crew is months/years of work/pirating wasted since he will need to hunt down that Mythical Zoan again. So every death on his crew hurts insanely much since each crewmate cannot just be casually replaced due to the rarity of Mythicals.
So the crew killing a Medusa, Cerberus, Cyclops, Centaur, Ghost/Banshee, Griffon and probably a basilisk(?) will take many years at the minimum to replace.
It’s even possible that with Grayl’s death, the Myth Pirates have lost a huge chunk of their overall power that will devastate Tavrok’s legion and probably severely the crew’s morale as they now know they are far from invincible even with insanely powerful zoans.
When you wanted to surpass Kaido with Mythical Zoans but get ganked by low ranking marines in the Paradise side of the Grand Line. (They don't even have Haki)
Most of this is actually due to him. His fruit naturally cuts people off from each other, including allies. The weaknesses of his crewmembers were told to them by Heather. Branch 101 is hiding out in a place he made sure was abandoned. They can't track people in the labyrinth due to the devil fruit changing the layout. And to top it off, a lot of his crew follow him out of fear. With Grayl neutralized, they might see the writing on the wall and help the marines. And not just them, but the island people as well. The sky is open for them now
I just want to say, I think the long rest was a good thing for multiple reasons, especially because of the end story that happened now because of the wait. Also they needed it because they were dying due to the players taking on every possible combat encounter and getting unlucky in a few.
Ngl, if Anchorarms dies because of this… I don’t really care, rather that than the campaign just ending.
There was no way the crew could’ve won otherwise
@@foxolocation3853absolutely agree. I'm gonna be sad cuz I like him but it's better than a tpk
Im glad that rustage kept the discussion in. Its a good discussion and i can see it from both sides
dont worry, its 100% legitimate Long rest has consequences
and the d100 was fair,
My view on the Long Rest situation is basically this: Rustage sees the entire area as a dungeon, but he actually designed it as if it were a kingdom.
There’s long passageways with some hidden traps, sure, but rather than treasure rooms and enemy encounters, every door is its own self-contained city that, at best, very loosely communicates with the overarching police force on occaison. The Final Boss didn't even know we had entered the "dungeon" until he (very luckily) called to check in on Cerberus right after the party killed it and before they left. Had he happened to call a few minutes earlier or later, it could have genuinely been hours before he knew something was up. Then, when he did know about it, he didn’t send an alert to look out for them, no descriptors, no warnings, not even a "if you get any unusual customers, let me know" to the most popular rest stop in the labyrinth.
This implies one of two things: either he doesn’t care about the party, or he and his crew have great trouble regularly navigating the labryinth or even sending basic messages through. Plus, his crew mostly rules over their own specific little areas, and are free to go wherever they want and do as they please. Greyll apparently spends all of her time outside the "dungeon" entirely. There's an entire town here, with its own patrol, alert system, businesses, economy, and job system, seperate entirely from the Myth Pirates that they live under the banner of. And that is entirely separate from the restaurant, and that is entirety seperate from the library, and it's implied there are many other places like these scattered throughout the labyrinth.
No traditional enemies, no regular foes, no stalkers, regular stops for food, drink, and fun, recruitable party members, nothing about this area whatsoever says "dungeon." It's a kingdom, with a unique and interesting twist. And even if it’s an enemy kingdom, I can’t imagine a scenario where it would be impossible for a party to long rest whilst exploring one. Especially as the point of long resting in dungeons being bad isn’t because the evil Lich is hunting them down or whatever, it's that there are traps and monsters everywhere. In dungeons where that isn’t a constant worry, safe spaces are usually implemented even in modules. There are places to long rest in the Amber Temple. If you’re in a safe situation, there’s no reason it should automatically be illegal.
And we know for a fact that either the Myth Pirates do not care that the party is killing them, or they are very, very bad at navigating this place. It's fair.
And more than fair once the contingencies come in. Let's walk through this, once. After all of their prep, in order for the party to be discovered, the following MUST happen:
1. Someone must be aware the Greyll is in the town, and not where she is 90% of the time, outside.
2. Someone must register her leaving, and understand that this is not her going back to her favorite spot or to get something to eat, but rather because she knew where the intruders were and was going to fight them.
3. This same someone must wait an appropriate amount of time to be concerned about Greyll, which would likely be at least an hour, especially with the level of confidence in Greyll even Heather had.
4. This person must then use the (already established as terrible) communications network to check around the labyrinth and make sure she wasn’t hanging around somewhere else.
5. Finally, at long last, a team of search parties can be organized.
6. One of these parties must explore the town.
7. That same party must decide to explore the derelict, abandoned hospital, despite there being no reasonable explanation for why the intruders would specifically be there.
8. This same party would then encounter the sounds of the wailing ghosts, additional lighting, and other ambience that was set up by the intruders to make this area extremely unappealing. This party must decide to explore it anyway.
9. After entering the least-reasonable and least-comfortable place in the city, the party must spend an extended amount of time there, exploring every area and inspecting every room.
10. When the party reaches the location near the room the intruders are in, they would hear the recorded ghost crying in the area. This indicates that there cannot possibly be anyone near this specific area of the hospital, or else the ghost would have been "set off" and either be dead or screaming. The party must decide to ignore this and investigate this specific area anyway.
11. The party must find the false wall, choose to feel it up for some inexplicable reason, and discover that there is an invisible door here.
12. Upon opening the door, the intruder's traps, tricks, and alerts subtly give them enough time to leave the room through a hidden window so the party can investigate the room, conclude that nobody is here, and leave. To be found, something here has to somehow go wrong.
13. Even if ALL of that is managed, all in a row, it MUST be accomplished within eight hours, whilst the search party has no clue whatsoever that they are on a time limit.
I understand not wanting to ruin the game by allowing long rests in dungeons, but, man, at this point, not allowing one here almost feels like railroading.
I respect the decision, but I wanted to share my thoughts, especially with so many other commenters claiming that Rustage was being overly generous.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Agreed, but I will say that the communications network might not be that mad. Tavrok may just believe that nobody could survive all of his myth pirate members hunting them.
Either way, whoever is looking for the intruders would have to go through a hell of a lot to get to them.
Just wanted to say I actually enjoyed the long rest debate as both sides made good points and it wasn’t as if the players were being stupid, or trying to take advantage of Rustage. They knew the risks and as they said had multiple things, traps, secure location, a hidden room and escape plan in place. Not even including they fact they had no resources and Rustage did imply they had like 5 fights left before the end of this dungeon..Though 8 hours of prepping and scouting for enemies ones is really dangerous and they have other allies who aren’t hidden and in active risk that may die. They were screwed either way and based on their characters knowledge they made the best decision that would allow of their survival and Tavrocks death, despite it most likely dooming Gyro and Anchor Arms. Even Rustage himself had a “oh fuck” look on his face when he realised they had no hit dice left and little resources, so despite the risks they made their choice and will reap the boons and consequences of it. Peak D&D.
I personally like how Rustage is able to compromise the rule in a seemingly "fair" (in my opinion) way when the players express frustration in the current situation but doesn't totally cave into the players demands and makes them work for that long rest and make a somewhat reasonable argument as to why the long rest should be possible in the first place. It truly did seem like a suicide mission and I'm happy things didn't turn out to be a team wipe.
Rustage, you really should stop doubting yourself, you're an incredible DM. The Dnd campaigns you have run on this channel are the best and the most entertaining I've ever seen. They're not just dnd series, they're unparalleled pieces of media. (You olso said thet i should insult you everytime i praise you but insulting you feels like a mortal sin to me so I'll pass)
I'd be stoked if there was a twist, where Heather turns out to be the captain of the Myth Pirates, and she's pulling a Captain Kuro on the party.
For those who don’t understand, the only reason Rustage made a point about the long rest is that he very clearly didn’t want to establish that they could just long rest whenever they wished, because that would remove all the stakes. So he was trying to make it clear that this was pretty much a onetime thing and would be basically impossible for them to do under any other circumstances.
Unless rustage threw them at another place with plenty of places to hide, the blue blood saga is a great example as it was enemy territory but the place was so expansive that the devils luck pirates could’ve long rested
Oh wait they did? Isnt that when the Louis and the Italian dude got into a fight in the end story? So fucking badass.@@Xeno-The-Wanderer
"You are arrogant" - Louis Le Cloque
Yeah and the players communicated that too, they had a lot of their side giving them the ability to pull this off and said they wouldn't normally do this as well. It was a well-played and justified response from both parties.
I would also say that with how the dungeon has been going so far, it isn't the easiest place the balance, encounterwise. Making most fights against single, important, homebrew opponents, while thematic, also makes those combats extremely swingy and thus difficult to predict and balance.
Putting a group of enemies against the party gives multiple smaller hp bars, multiple smaller damage numbers that stack up and due to the many rolls the damage will lean more towards the average with less deviation. The increased action economy means the fight stays dynamic and it also means that the further into the fight you get, the more opponents get defeated and thus the average damage per round coming from the opponents decreases over time, meaning big unpredictable damage swings at the end of the fight are very unlikely. It makes it easier to predict how much resources will be used and thus how many encounters the group can theoretically take.
Putting a single enemy against the party however comes with challenges, mostly because we want the singular enemy to feel just as impactful as a group of enemies. So its given much more hp and damage, both seemingly at the level of hp and damage that that group of enemies would have. They are given special reactions or legendary actions so the fights feel as dynamic as they do against groups. But that's where stuff gets tricky, because the high damage of the enemy as opposed to multiple smaller damage amounts from a group means that big swings are, much swingier, especially when they critically hit (as that would be like if all the enemies in the group crit). The high hp means that the damage doesn't decrease over time, because the single opponent can deal just as much damage at full hp as at 1 hp. And wanting to increase action economy often means the opponent is given ways of making their main attack outside of their turn as well, which doesn't feel as impactful but doubles to quadruples the potential damage output. So now we have an encounter that is inherently hard to balance and even harder to predict, with an average damage amount that looks okay on the surface but with such a massive standard deviation that with a few bad rolls, it does the damage equivalent of 4 other encounters, or almost nothing at all.
I respect rustage deeply for his DMing and, as far as I know due to the 2 one piece dnd's, making encounters of mostly 1 big bad guy with maybe some lackeys is his favorite style of encounter building. But it does come with these massive swing risks, which was especially noticable with the damage numbers of opponents like Arzen and Blue-Blood, and it lends itself better to the 1-2 encounters per long rest style compared to in a dungeon crawl environment with an expected 6-8 encounters.
Loved reading your analysis @@TheLegoLord100
I REALLY enjoyed the End Story. I really wish that was apart of every episode. BIG PROPS!
I think this situation might have been a bit of a miscalculation on rustages part on how little resources they had left. No hit dice or spells and they would have to fight at the very least the scorpion guy and tavrok. So it was either risk dying in their sleep or walk into the final boss with 6 health a piece. I think rustage made the right decision to let them roll to see if they would succeed in resting aswell. It just reminds me of the blue blood final boss run where they were fighting commander after commander and then had to fight blue blood with basically no heals. The difference is the DLP had navy support, lots of npcs and they were higher level. But its okay no dm is perfect and i think the situation was handled well and i think rustage is a great dm
I don't think this was a miscalculation. This was a suicide mission from the start and this entire campaign has been on the harder end of encounters in general because he knows that the players have a lot of experience in handling tough situations because of the first campaign. It's also pretty tough because early on, the players were rolling super badly (against Medusa and Cerberus guys) so they were in a disadvantageous position, even in this super hard campaign. I agree with the rest of your points and yes, rustage is a goated dm :)
@@NexIsLazy the only things I'd say to that is 1, usually dms aren't trying to kill the players they want them to have fun, and 2 when everyone said they had no hit die or spells rustage looked shocked
@@zillionfurball1451thing is, the players WERE warned about the difficulty, but decided to go on the suicide missions because of their personal connections
@@samuelcox9656however rustage did make a good point on they can’t do it all the time. But to completely hammer it in for like 15 minutes even tho the players have accepted they’re kinda screwed either way was a bit much
This is Spoiler territory, warning y’all now.
Hello, I was the guy in the twitch chat who said before the roll towards the end about if anyone wanted to blame anyone: Blame commodore Gus.
I just wanted to say, this was a genuinely fun time. It made sense from both sides on why a long rest would be insane and possible. That d100 scale roll was an interesting idea.
Gus is the new Snow now. The fella that the entire fanbase can gang up on and hate. And who will not be leaving this campaign alive.
100% agreed. If they make it out of this mess alive and find out that Jiro isn't even here, that mushroom is getting his cap chopped off fs
To be fair, he did straight up told them, It's a suicide mission.
Honestly Rustage's DnD campaign is the ONLY DnD I listen to. I like Rustage being fair to the players. Not make it too hard nor too easy on them regarding the enemies.
His bosses are almost always overturned and especially his dungeon runs. Outside of that I agree
ANCHOR ARMS
rustage knows about dimension 20.... I love this channel. I love dnd.
Rustage never change your the best dm in town
Gorosei approved
the get back for kuma is coming
@@zekegameing4956 Nuh uh
U should train more. U the weakest link Saturn
The roll of outcomes + the fact that long resting left Anchor Arms vulnerable is the exact way to balance long resting in the middle of a dungeon. If the party is at such low health that they can't reasonably expect to survive the next boss encounter, they have no incentive to go through with that encounter. That's fine if they have a way to retreat and return later (either after finding safe ground to long rest in or grinding lesser encounters for xp in order to level up), but if they have no option to retreat, granting them an avenue to long rest that leads to unforeseen negative consequences that aren't just "well you die anyway" is the only satisfying way to handle it.
Man devil luck still following them even after the campaign
I think rustage handled the discussion very well. Not wanting to let the players dictate the game but also wanting to be decently fair. I think the players were right to need to long rest because yes it is a dungeon but they had no ways to heal whatsoever and if they couldnt find enough heals to go into battle at the one place that would have some (the hospital they're staying in) there would be no point to go into multiple hard fights with 10 health each and no spells, they would just die. So they really had no choice, it was either hoing into a battle with a commander with low health and no spells and then tavrok afterwards it wouldve been literally impossible for them to survive unless rustage had a deus ex machina where they find some fountain in the labyrinth that brings them to full but the players had no guarantee that would happen. Also think about it from the characters perspective. Luffy couldnt be sent off of onigashima and go right back uo without healing even though there was a raid on an emperor happening. Even though anything could happen while he was gone he had to heal up or there would be no point in going back up since he was so hurt. But all in all i think rustage made the right decision in the end
It cant just be me who wished rustage had the map on screen the same as noble does for his pokemon d&d? It helps me visualise exactly whats going on lol
Bradley just casually doing a Falcon Knee
Stats tracker for this episode. (the crit fail number are minus off the total)
Kai 11+ KOs 11 crit 7 crit fail 576 damage 294 damage tank 7 in healing 50/66 in accuracy 11/32 evasion. Total: 953
Yokan 17+ KOs 14 crit 6 crit fail 861 damage 464 damage tank 15 in healing 106/168 in accuracy 24/50 in evasion. Total: 1,495
Bradley 24+ KOs 18 crit 7 crit fail 928 damage 179 damage tank 98 in healing 55/71 in accuracy 16/31 in evasion. Total: 1,311
Damian 13+ KOs 8 crit 7 crit fail 758 damage 327 damage tank 95 in healing 79/106 in accuracy 19/39 in evasion. Total:1,292
Taiga 7 KOs 8 crit 6 crit fail 295 damage 350 damage tank 21 in healing 41/82 in accuracy 12/32 in evasion. Total:728
Belle 4 KOs 4 crit 4 crit fail 305 damage 124 damage tank 20/35 in accuracy 2/6 in evasion Total: 455
Heather 2 crit fail 6 damage 17 damage tank 60 in healing 2/7 in accuracy and 1/1 in evasion. Total 84
Anchor Arms 1 KO’s 1 crit 22 damage 47 damage tank 5/11 in accuracy 0/4 in evasion. Total:76
1.Yokan 2. Bradley 3.Damian 4. Kai 5. Taiga 6. Belle 7. Heather 8. Anchor arms .
Belle having more damage than Taiga is crazyyy lmao
I'm just going to reiterate points I made in a reply to criticism on rustage's decision in the community post and the players' mindset.
I think his point of view made perfect sense. They were in enemy territory, and a lot can happen in 8 whole hours. The enemy wouldn't just sit back and do nothing while 8 entire hours passed, Taverok would either prepare quite a bit, thus increasing the difficulty of upcoming fights, or end up finding them. Sleeping in enemy territory is incredibly risky no matter how you spin it, no sane person actively invading would do this.
On the other hand, the dungeon is very unique, I mean it even has a town in it. But I think the point still remains that it's literally enemy territory and sleeping here is just asking to get ambushed.
Imo the big issue is that in DnD running into a fight with as limited resources as they had is literaly suicide, even by DnD standards it was getting excesive, literaly no hit dice left, no abilities left, no spells left, low on cures, low on health
yeah, i can see both sides easily, on the one hand, i wouldn't want to even attempt a long rest if i was one of the characters unless i was extremely beat up an exhausted in that situation, which i can imagine the characters would be exhausted/tired at that point even besides the wounds, on the other, with good enough preparation, it would be very unlikely to be discovered, to the point i personally would have made the chance of just getting the long rest 1-15 or 1-20 just due to how much they prepared, specifically the false walls for the door and window, although with the roll made would have made no difference, plus, with the guy who found them, chances are he might have ended up just not noticing the wall, since it wasn't really specified which side of the hallway he had his arm against, plus depending on how the false wall was set up (say they basically just changed how the door/doorway looked), it might have worked just like the walls anyway
Both sides are fair as the crew was on a brink of a tpk and needed this time to recover a bit but the enemy will of course respond to that as well. They got extremely lucky with the dice roll that just one guy showed up.
Rustage’s point that a lot can happen in 8 hours and they can’t do that all the time are valid points, but I think the players understand that because they’ve been in this situation before with Blue Blood.
They have no hp, no hit dice, no spells, no nothing. If they end up running into anyone, especially if they end up running into tavrok, it is a guaranteed tpk no questions.
The only option they have really is long rest. They could maybe find their way back out but that also runs the risk of running into somebody, and the labyrinth being confusing. They also said they would make the proper preparations, making it very, very hard for anyone except the smartest people to figure out where they were.
Glad you left the discussion in. The d100 was fair same with the consequences in the after story. So much happens in 8 hrs. Dont be too hard on yourself Rustage. You're a good dm.
Also any opportunity to practice that aussie accent is a win.
Character Scoreboard from the official wiki tracker:
The crew:
Kai: 16* kills & 4 KO's; hit 51/67 attacks (4 crits & 4 crit fails) and dealt 541+? damage + 12 friendly fire; evaded/blocked 11/32 attacks, took 297 damage and got KO'd 4 times; healed 14 HP; 8 crits and 7 crit fails
Belle: 3 kills & 1KO; hit 23/38 attacks (1 crit & 1 crit fail) and dealt 290 damage; evaded/blocked 2/7 attacks, took 137 damage and got KO'd 3 times; 3 crits and 2 crit fails
Damian: 21* kills & 12* KO's; hit 66/86 attacks (9 crits & 2 crit fails) and dealt 687 damage (38 friendly fire); evaded/blocked 21/41 attacks, took 301 damage and got KO'd 4 times; healed 60HP and generated 8 tempHP; 9 crits and 5 crit fails (1 double)
Choppa: 1 kill; hit 14/22 attacks (2 crit fails (1 double)] and dealt 98 damage +6 friendly fire; evaded/blocked 0/1 attacks, took 11 damage and got destroyed once; healed 33HP; 1 crit & 2 crit fails (1 double)
Yokan: 18* kills & 8 KO's; hit 104/159 attacks (9 crits & 7 crit fails) and dealt 839 damage +13 friendly fire; evaded/blocked 23/51 attacks, ki dodged 1 attack, deflected 2 projectiles for 12 damage, took 426+? damage and got KO'd 8 times; healed ~23HP; 16 crits and 10 crit fails
Bradley: 52* kills & 13* KO's; hit 55/73 attacks (9 crits & 1 crit fail) and dealt 917 damage; evaded/blocked 11/25 attacks, uncanny dodged 3 attacks, took 188 damage and got KO'd 4 times; healed 97HP; 15 crits and 6 crit fails
Taiga: 4 kills & 1 KO; hit 44/90 attacks (6 crits & 6 crit fails) and dealt 304+? damage + 8 friendly fire damage; evaded/blocked 12/36 attacks, took 369 damage and got KO'd 9 times; healed 21HP; 8 crits and 7 crit fails
Allied NPC's :
Heather: hit 5/14 attacks (1 crit fail) and dealt 6 damage; granted 9 bardic inspirations; evaded/blocked 0/1 attacks, took 17 damage and got KO'd 0 times; healed 51HP; 2 crit fails
Anchorarms: 2 kills; hit 3/7 attacks and dealt 22 damage; evaded/blocked 0/3 attacks, took 47 damage and got KO'd 1 time; 1 crit and 0 crit fails
Raj: 1 kill & 0 KO's; hit 3/5 attacks (1 crit fail) and dealt 27 damage; evaded/blocked 1/2 attacks, protected an ally 1 time, took 61 damage and got KO'd 1 time; 1 crit and 1 crit fail
Hoover: hit 0/0 attacks and dealt 0 damage; evaded/blocked 0/0 attacks, took 0 damage and hasn't been KO'd yet
Lt. Commander Powdered: 1 kill & 0 KO's; hit 2/5 attacks and dealt 18 damage; evaded/blocked 2/3 attacks, took 26 damage and hasn't been KO'd yet; 0 crits and 0 crit fails
Bosses/enemies of note:
Greil - killed by Bradley (through her crit fail): 2 KO's; hit 8/10 attacks (1 crit fail) and dealt 179 damage + 27 to herself; evaded/blocked 11/34 attacks and took 297 damage; 1 crit fail
Ghost girl - killed by Yokan: hit 0/1 attacks and dealt 0 damage; evaded/blocked 2/7 attacks and took 40 damage
Bosses/enemies of note defeated:
Kai:
- killed 4 Limbed Larry & Alter
- KO'd Bob the Demolitionist
Belle:
- killed Club, Alter & Dave
- KO'd Demure
Damian:
- KO'd Little Fella & Big Fella
- RP KO'd The Librarian, 2 Eyed Ted & Bob the Demolitionist
-killed Malady, Dave, Snez and 1 Kylos dog
Yokan:
- KO'd 2 Eyed Ted, The Librarian & Fibs/Kane Kibbleton
- RP KO'd Little Fella & Bob the Demolitionist
-killed The Tastiest Elephant, 1 Kylos clone, Gotz & The Ghost Girl
Bradley:
- KO'd Zeal, Guy & Cpt. Spooks
- killed Diamond, Slugger, Captain "...", The Sea Serpent (ep15), Celsius, Betsy & Greyl (through her crit fail)
Taiga:
- KO'd Spade
- killed Hugh Mann
Ancorarms:
- killed Kylos
Paige the wolf:
- KO'd Cpt. Bailey/Kane Kibbleton
Joy:
- killed Hoop
- KO'd Rordon Gamsey
- incapacitated Taiga
Kip:
- put Hoops, Ron McDon, The Monarch & Damian to sleep
This series is damn near berserk levels of dark with these consequences lmao
I think the long rest discussion makes a lot of sense. I am definitely happy it was left in. Both sides made really good points and it really is less of an argument and more of a discussion of info we have had throughour this whole arc. The characters and the audience came into this knowing and understanding that the Myth Pirates were for sure going to be very strong and despicable opponents and Gus literally bet on them losing before, its obvious he has sent them on another suicide mission. The players also have valid arguments too it would be fruitless going into a fight with Tavrock or any of his other commanders with this low amount of health and lack of class based actions. This makes sense story wise the crew is under lots of stress in their situation and similar to the Kasperov situation in One Piece DnD with this type of gauntlet the npcs being in danger because they are in enemy territory gives their circumstances more realism. As a dnd player and sometimes DM this is how I love dnd being played, group made decisions and a good discussion that allows creativity to be used in the world. Love me some One Piece DnD can't wait for next episode!
Also wishing the best for my goat Anchor Arms 🙏
Rustage writes torture as well as Abercrombie.
Is that a strange hill high reference?
Please, do not critise Rustage over the long rest. Thank you.
Well, there’s a difference between hate and criticism.
Though, most of what will be said is definitely not falling on the criticism spectrum
I'll criticize him if he stops his mewing streak
It’s his table he do what he must
I find this stupid it's Rustage's Table his rules are the rules people are acting like house rules don't exist.
This has to be one of the toughest situations that they have been in! This dungeon was very tough with a lot of the team going down and nearly dying, not to mention that they are almost out of resources, so I can understand why they are so desperate that they need to do a long rest, but I can understand Rustage's point of view especially since he is the Dungeon Master, since he knows the consequences for doing a long rest in a dungeon. There were two other situations similar to this in the OG One Piece D&D. In the Rain arc, after the Devil's Luck Pirates defeated Arzen, they were running out of resources and where heavily damaged, however William's Brother Trevor was kidnapped, they had the option either to short rest or long rest, it was a desperate time and Trevor's life was on the line, but they ultimately short rested. The other situation was in the Blue Blood arc, where the Devil's Luck Pirates entered Emperor Blue Blood territory, however the crew got separated and had to fight Blue Blood's Commanders and they were also running out of resources. If in either of those situations they choose to long rest, Trevor probably would have died in the Rain arc and the some of the Devil's Luck Crew could have died and they were lucky that the Marines were there to provide them with some Medical Kits and to defeat the other Commander otherwise, I think most of if not the whole crew could have died against Blue Blood. In this scenario, they were lucky to find some medical kits, but this is so bad that there isn't much they can do. I doubt they can call for backup because Bailey is in the West Blue, so she's too far away to help them in time and there's no way Gus is sending reinforcements because he's expecting for the crew to die here, since he basically sent them on a suicide mission. Their only hope is to find Jiro, however due this place being a Labyrinth, there no way of knowing where Jiro is, so they could risk fighting another enemy to find him or running into the other commander that remains. They could fight the Captain and hope that Jiro defeated the other Commander and saves them, but they might die before he can make it. Desperate Times call for Desperate Measures, so they had to take the long rest.They got really lucky here, this could have been Game Over if Luck wasn't on their side. However, if they defeat the single guy and get the long rest, there still will be consequences, it's either Jiro dies or Anchors Arms and Kai's grandfather dies if not all three, long rests in the dungeon runs the risks of your team and your allies dying since it gives the enemy maybe enough to find you and your allies. At the end of day Rustage did warn the team about the risks of long resting in a dungeon and they took the chance to keep the campaign going, they know what the stakes are, so what ever happens, just happens, lets enjoy One Piece D&D Marines and hope they make it all the way to the end.
Not gonna lie Rustage they're lucky to have you as a DM cause 90% of DMs aren't gonna give them the chance. The d100 was a good call to make your players happy and if your players are happy then you are doing your job as a DM.
Love how things rolled, tekking peaking his mic was hilarious xD, and excellent way to show consequences of the long rest fairly so far.
This was the best consequences-based episode. There needs to be a danger element to every decision made. The long rest in this episode was more than fair, it shows the consequences of the players’ plans. The other way they could have done it was to have people take turns on night watch. Rustage cares enough about his players that he doesn’t want them to just get slaughtered, but they also need to be aware of the repercussions of their actions. Actions equal reactions which bring on unexpected consequences. Thanks Rustage
I guess you could say that Long Rest had Rustage "Stressed Out"
(I love that song by you btw)
Anchor arms ⚓️ Good job soldier 🫡
Gotta love one piece dnd
no matter what it always is fire
Thumbnail is fire! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nah, the thumbnail is flier
I’m loving this series
In this episode of One Piece D&D Marines:
- Happy 23rd birthday Tekking!
- The squad officially does more ghost hunting than all the TV shows putt together.
- 13:56 I have no words, I just think this was hilarious.
- Yokan solidifies herself as the child killer of the campaign.
- Kai finally decides to fight from range, completing his transformation into the Usopp of the squad.
- Damian low-key saves the entire squad by channeling his inner Spiderman.
- Yokan finally gets the chance to be a badass after getting the type advantage... still goes down anyway.
- Taiga gets doused with a bunch a expired chemicals after being used as a projectile again... I am sure this wont be important later.
- Kai almost gets thwarted by not being a smoker.
- "Leave no man behind" said some soldier "lol" said the squad, "lmao" even.
- Rustage hates long rest confirmed!
- You can take the Devil's Luck Pirates out of the players, but you cant take the Devil's Luck out of players. (that D100 almost gave me anxiety)
- Damian's robot hand prosthetic stonks 📈
I was screaming at the camera to not long rest because they somehow forgot about Kai’s grandad and Anchor Arms but I think this was perfectly ruled. There are risks involved in this long rest but it is one of the few dungeons where a long rest is possible
Kai told them to run if they took too long coming back
@@commonviewer2488 true but I don’t have hope that Anchor arms and Kai’s grandpa are gonna safely navigate their way out of the maze. Although I guess there’s a chance that everyone will be distracted trying to find the main party and ignore them
I don't know why anyone would criticize Rustage over the long rest. There's a bunch of ways to handle short rests abd long rests, and when players want to do a multi-day dungeon (in-game time) or they have the spells/tools/supplies/skills/opportunity to take a long rest in a risky area, I handle it in a similar way to Rustage. Rests can be interrupted, and you generally need minimally 6 hours of sleep and 2 hours of light activity so you can do watches and such (unless you are an elf or warforged or some other exception). They tried to long rest, Rustage rolled for a possible interruption, and the hostile npcs continue acting during that time. That is literally how its supposed to be ran. Good on Rustage for being reasonable and making use of the resting mechanics in the proper way.
Bradley literally just foot stolled the bird literally it's smash bros😊
I love how the guy who made a labyrinth to get people lost is asking where are your friends in my labyrinth
Rustage is on of the best DM an story telling
The discuss reminds me of a campaign I’m running right now where a party with 3 people need short rests often, but they’re literally in the middle of storming their base like this, except it’s like a mansion. And I tell them if the short rest in that hour shit is gonna go down because it is just a house they’re in.
Also the amount of time Rustage talked about the weird viles on the table that Taiga crashed into and seeped into his body has me very curious
…possible green blood or some form that gives taiga a random devil fruit?
@@Xeno-The-Wandereri was actually thinking diluted blue blood. We know he was fucking ANCIENT and had many an offspring, so eventually the red would override the blue after some amount of time.
@@Xeno-The-WandererThat a possibility.
I was kinda surprised how well Rustage managed that long rest situation
I mean I would let players do that, but that is a matter of taste IMO and Rustage managed to both get a compromise AND save a feeling of enemy territory. Cheers to him, idk if Brennan could do that actually
The first few minutes was just errors and we love it.
This was so good, absolutely on the edge of my seat for the last roll
Rustage is actually the best DM I have ever seen in my whole life no joke I’ve watched other DND podcasts they’re funny but not as funny as one piece D&D or one piece DND marines In my opinion Rustage is great at making a story that’s funny and serious at the same time and that’s very impressive. Don’t talk shit about my favorite DM. Even if it is himself.
More One Piece DnD! HYPE!!
damn. he even tried to warn them without spoilers. My man Anchor Arms gotta live up to his namesake
not gonna lie i wasen't expecting damian to become spooderman but he really did in this episode
The devils luck lives on with this one
Rustage, let me just tell you that I've been watching OP D&D, OP D&D Marines, Isekai D&D, AND Pokèmon D&D since their creation and have rarely fallen behind. I've been watching Critical Role Campaign 3 since it started and am currently around 9 episodes behind. You are a great DM and player, never compare yourself to others, okay. Yes, Matt and Brendan are fun, creative DMs, but so are you. They've made mistakes in a few of their campaigns and admit multiple times they aren't perfect and ANY DMs style is amazing, which means YOU. I've stayed up to date on all your games because you're entertaining, so chin up, bud. I look forward to the next installment.
Fantastic episode and the debate about how to make the rest work is perfect and is exactly how many players would try to play it.
These 4 are the luckiest players I've ever seen. I still remember Briggs and his leap of faith as Ragnar over lava.
They critically fail the fear from the ghost they mess their pants.
I gotta say, this was the most exciting episode yet!
Best epispde yet! 🎉The high stakes at the end were a rush of adrenaline for me and good call on your part rustage bc not many dms would be as nice as you
Rustage I think this is why I enjoy watching you DM as opposed to anyone else. You just go with whatever makes the players have the most fun and not being such a stickler to the rules or what’s accepted while still keeping it fair. :D
This guy hates people who get 8 hours of sleep a night
This type of discussion is what makes me like rustage dm’d dnd so much, I means he’s not Brennan but he’s up there
RUSTAGE you are doing your best.
I freaking love that coin flip at the end!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD DAMN IT RUSTAGE, GIMME ANOTHER EPISODE ALREADY I'M DYING OF SUSPENSE (
I love the never ending “I’m going to edit that” and it’s never edited😭
All I will say is that what the crew is doing is pretty much what the strawhats did at whole cake island
Yeah, characters in one piece usually do take rests even when they are in the middle of enemy territory it's not a gauntlet, the closest thing was likely wano and even there luffy had the equivalent of several full restores and short rests in the middle of the final boss
Finally, Caught up on OP DnD: Marines.
Most important info is they or mabey just tavrok doesn't know about kais uncle so the rest of this might just be a breeze one of my favourite episodes so far
this is similar to when they wanted to rest in blue bloods territory and rustange is like "he'll find you" practically, the chances of him finding them in 8 hours (if they hide well) Is extremely low, but mechanically he wants them to keep going through the "dungeon" on pure mechanics, i kinda just wish rustage would tell them they cant do it, straight up. when this did come up, i thought of how in actual one piece, nearly every arc consists of the characters hiding for awhile, like they spend alot of time on wano, luffy escapes the prison and they continue to hide for like another week, or similarly in whole cake island they take a long rest with gang bege, or other anime like bleach when ichigo just ditches the plot for awhile to train for bankai
Still waiting for a TheManBeHisLa comment saying “coin flip made to gamble” lmaooo
The Statement: You are fucked both ways, is very true. Obviously it has consequenses, BUT they wouldnt have survived the Encounter with another member. Even with full health this will Probably be the Most difficult Battle of the campaign so far.
There sadly is No right answer Here. The Situation was truly: choosing a lesser evil.
My favorite one piece dnd characters, the shark and Cody
Their only options were either long rest or say "fuck it we ball" and keep picking fights while on barely 15 hp. I'm not saying Rustage hates long rests, but over the years I have noticed it's one of the few things he gets defensive about and will do the absolute most to convince the group against doing it. Notice how the Myth pirates haven't been all that good at finding or even noticing the group as they've been literally walking around, but when they wanna sleep in a secluded building ALL OF A SUDDEN the entire crew, captain included, will automatically know where they are? Come on son. 😏
I kind of understand him to be honest, a group of 4 level 6/7 PCs with all their resources plus a bunch of NPCs is pretty powerful, challenging such a group can be hard but at the same time i feel like he went overboard with the dificulty this time by the end of that fight they were spent
Honestly if this was my sesión i would allow them to rest but make it so that the enemy forces have consolidated in a single location so that they have a harder time than they would initially but still it's a challenge that they can take
BUT WAIT, THE LIBRARY
They cant find them because when theyre walking around its within two hours of the place. They arent spending/sleeping one place for EIGHT HOURS. Heck, the griffin lady found them for the small time they were in the hospital.
Idk man, the Griffin found them almost as soon as they entered the city.
Pluss, after killing 4 important members and freeing prisoners, they were bound to start searching for them.
I am not saying that the long rest was a bad idea, but I feel like there was a better place to do it (like the library) without leaving Anchorarms and Granpa to the tavern run and used by the enemy.
I mean, that is the difference between just 2 hours of stumbling and 8 hours after killing a lot of Tavroks crew... you can't be seriously comparing these 2 situations
i feel like i have never prayed for a nat 1 more than when they did the role for how their sleep goes
The whole should we shouldn't we long rest is an amazing subject but if there is a town near you just get med kits from there.
51:37 I’m calling that riptide knee
Hope you had a great birthday Tekken
1:16:20 (paused to write desire for narrative) this failure gets dictated as Bradley just smashing her beak back into her face with one punch, or a Karate flip pile-driving her into the ground
*presses play*
Result: not bad
happy birthday tekking!
yeah damian needs to make his right arm into a flamethrower or a megaman buster to specifically light birbs on fire
If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true
Hearing Rustage say he watches Dimention 20 brings me hope that one day we have a Rustage DnD and Dimention 20 cross-over
Rustage you are fine. It was a great session. Since they long rested guess you have to make the final fight extra hard
Damn that’s crazyyy lil feather had a glow up
I humbly request yokans next power up for the devil fruit be something to do with 9 lives
Barely really missed the opportunity to name the attack "Now you knee me"
I have a feeling that Anchor Arms is going to be No Arms when they find him
i sure hope this birb person dosen't know pek, if she does everyone is gonna lose their heads if they fail on the coin flip attack.