You know what I love about ken burns documentary’s is the intense research, attention to detail and the one best of all. They are humane. No matter whom we are discussing, there is no judgement nor serious criticism . I always learn something, am entertained and truly get to know your subjects. Thank you for your masterful work.
Every documentary series you create is fascinating! I remember being riveted to the TV when The Civil War debuted. Thank you for all of the creative inspiration through the years.
Parents should love their children unconditionally, though. They are not perfect either, so they should be able to forgive their children's mistakes and still love them. She clearly didn't want her children/enjoy staying with them that much, and hearing about her makes me feel lucky because of how much my mom truly loves us and how much she wanted to have children. While I feel bad for Eleanor and her childhood, I like how Sara Delano parented a lot more. I'm also saying this because, "thanks" to my father, I lived in fear of losing my mother's love too if I made a mistake. Everyone deserves to know someone loves them no matter what, and would else should that be, if not our parents?
So, Sara Delano Roosevelt, was the Victorian equivalent to the fictional character, Marie Barone, on "Everybody Loves Raymond". :-D Controlling, Intrusive, Domineering, Manipulative....BUT SHE DID IT WITH LOVE.
Sara Delano hadn't wanted her son to marry Eleanor, so didn't ever accept his autonomy, and by extension, his wife. Part of this was Eleanor's fault as she allowed Sara and Franklin to build and furnish the first house they bought as a married couple. While Sara was immensely wealthy due to her father, Eleanor actually contributed more financially to the family during the early years than Franklin had, as his income didn't match hers. Eleanor should've told Sara to back off; this is if Franklin wasn't willing to confront Sara himself.
@@johntomlinson6849 No, you are wrong, sir. If you have read Eleanor's autobiography, she said nearly exactly what I said. She stated that everything she learned from her mentor, Mademoiselle Souvestre, had evaporated and she was allowing her husband and his mother to make all big decisions in their marriage, including how the Roosevelt children were to be reared.
You sure about this? Eleanor was the President's (Teddy Roosevelt's) niece at the time. She also has some very important family connections of her own on her mother's side.
Whenever I've read about Sara, it seemed as if she either didn't realize or at least didn't intend to alienate Eleanor. I wonder if she ever really thought about what she was doing by being so controlling.
Because Eleanor's mother died young and they had a poor relationship, Eleanor initially saw Sara Delano as a mother figure. Sara hadn't wanted Franklin to marry Eleanor, though Eleanor was higher on the social ladder than Franklin. After repeated interferences with Eleanor's children from Sara and Sara expecting Franklin to retire from politics after the polio attack, the two women grew apart. Franklin also didn't have the backbone to stand up for his wife.
Reading Ward's bios of young FDR and listening to Ward here I always suspect he resented Eleanor over her attitude toward Franklin's polio. having had it himself. But she was the one who had to cover for her husband and five kids and she couldn't, not even factoring in Lucy Mercer Rutherford, afford to vainly hope FDR would make a full recovery when it soon became clear he would not progress beyond what he'd achieved. Of course it must have hit Franklin hard knowing that while Eleanor was urging him to do whatever he had to to recover, she'd actually stopped believing he'd improve.
Good insights !! Yes think how much he missed out on while trying to make very marginal improvements. I've been to warm springs and they love Lucy there but have little use for Eleanor
Thee is an interview with Eleanor Roosevelt on CZcams in which she compliments Sara’s sense of obligation to help people in need. She was brought up that way and held onto it.
@@carowells1607 Exactly. Not only was she brought up that way but some scholars argue that the reason FDR became a "traitor to his class" by creating the social welfare programs of the New Deal and had a rather progressive view of minorites (progressive for the time period) was because of the values his mother taught him.
Opium must have been a very reliable money maker because at one point warren Delano lost all his money. No problem to him. He went back to the orient and quickly made a second, larger fortune. Winston Churchill’s maternal grandfather did the same thing, though it involved no opium. Leanird Jerome was quite wealthy when his daughter married Lord Randolph Churchill, but he lost all his money in a panic. And, like Delano, he simply went to wrk and made a second fortune. I guess one they learned a successful formula for high profits, they could always use it again.
You know what I love about ken burns documentary’s is the intense research, attention to detail and the one best of all. They are humane. No matter whom we are discussing, there is no judgement nor serious criticism . I always learn something, am entertained and truly get to know your subjects. Thank you for your masterful work.
He always skews Left, and is always pushing some agenda.
I love Eleanor Roosevelt documentaries, she was an extraordinary woman.
Every documentary series you create is fascinating! I remember being riveted to the TV when The Civil War debuted. Thank you for all of the creative inspiration through the years.
Love hearing Eleanor argue against "unconditional love" of parents for kids.
Parents should love their children unconditionally, though. They are not perfect either, so they should be able to forgive their children's mistakes and still love them. She clearly didn't want her children/enjoy staying with them that much, and hearing about her makes me feel lucky because of how much my mom truly loves us and how much she wanted to have children. While I feel bad for Eleanor and her childhood, I like how Sara Delano parented a lot more. I'm also saying this because, "thanks" to my father, I lived in fear of losing my mother's love too if I made a mistake. Everyone deserves to know someone loves them no matter what, and would else should that be, if not our parents?
So, Sara Delano Roosevelt, was the Victorian equivalent to the
fictional character, Marie Barone, on "Everybody Loves Raymond". :-D
Controlling, Intrusive, Domineering, Manipulative....BUT SHE DID IT WITH LOVE.
Sara Delano hadn't wanted her son to marry Eleanor, so didn't ever accept his autonomy, and by extension, his wife. Part of this was Eleanor's fault as she allowed Sara and Franklin to build and furnish the first house they bought as a married couple. While Sara was immensely wealthy due to her father, Eleanor actually contributed more financially to the family during the early years than Franklin had, as his income didn't match hers. Eleanor should've told Sara to back off; this is if Franklin wasn't willing to confront Sara himself.
Victim blaming!
@@johntomlinson6849 No, you are wrong, sir. If you have read Eleanor's autobiography, she said nearly exactly what I said. She stated that everything she learned from her mentor, Mademoiselle Souvestre, had evaporated and she was allowing her husband and his mother to make all big decisions in their marriage, including how the Roosevelt children were to be reared.
@@travelseatsyellowlab
True
FDR never stood up for Eleanor against his mother.
You sure about this? Eleanor was the President's (Teddy Roosevelt's) niece at the time. She also has some very important family connections of her own on her mother's side.
Whenever I've read about Sara, it seemed as if she either didn't realize or at least didn't intend to alienate Eleanor. I wonder if she ever really thought about what she was doing by being so controlling.
She convinced herself she was helping, or at least trying to help.
Because Eleanor's mother died young and they had a poor relationship, Eleanor initially saw Sara Delano as a mother figure. Sara hadn't wanted Franklin to marry Eleanor, though Eleanor was higher on the social ladder than Franklin. After repeated interferences with Eleanor's children from Sara and Sara expecting Franklin to retire from politics after the polio attack, the two women grew apart. Franklin also didn't have the backbone to stand up for his wife.
Sara seems like a super mom and grand mom.
Just not so nice of a mother in law.
Yes. As long as she isn't your m..i.l
the opposite to "a super mom and grand mom" I think.
Reading Ward's bios of young FDR and listening to Ward here I always suspect he resented Eleanor over her attitude toward Franklin's polio. having had it himself. But she was the one who had to cover for her husband and five kids and she couldn't, not even factoring in Lucy Mercer Rutherford, afford to vainly hope FDR would make a full recovery when it soon became clear he would not progress beyond what he'd achieved. Of course it must have hit Franklin hard knowing that while Eleanor was urging him to do whatever he had to to recover, she'd actually stopped believing he'd improve.
Good insights !! Yes think how much he missed out on while trying to make very marginal improvements. I've been to warm springs and they love Lucy there but have little use for Eleanor
americas greatest
Sara Delano Roosevelt was a narcissist, through and through
Thee is an interview with Eleanor Roosevelt on CZcams in which she compliments Sara’s sense of obligation to help people in need. She was brought up that way and held onto it.
@@carowells1607 Exactly. Not only was she brought up that way but some scholars argue that the reason FDR became a "traitor to his class" by creating the social welfare programs of the New Deal and had a rather progressive view of minorites (progressive for the time period) was because of the values his mother taught him.
Eleanor Roosevelt was certainly the proto-feminist.
She should have told his mother to back off! There can never be 2 queens in the same house!
More victim blaming!
HE should have told his mother to back off.
How about his opium fortune?...
Opium must have been a very reliable money maker because at one point warren Delano lost all his money. No problem to him. He went back to the orient and quickly made a second, larger fortune. Winston Churchill’s maternal grandfather did the same thing, though it involved no opium. Leanird Jerome was quite wealthy when his daughter married Lord Randolph Churchill, but he lost all his money in a panic. And, like Delano, he simply went to wrk and made a second fortune. I guess one they learned a successful formula for high profits, they could always use it again.
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