"Music embodies universal harmony, thus it has a political function in the order that I want to establish. It serves me; it serves the State and God." - Louis XIV (Magimel) to Lully (Terral)
@@januarysson5633 Tyrant? Louis the XIV? Maybe a bit, but he had two great love: Le douce France and the château de Versailles. For both, he was ready for everything. Even crimes. But, the sins made in the name of love are less incriminatory for sure.
@@rejmons1 You say he had two loves: Le douce France and the chateau of Versailles. Remember he said, “L’état c’est moi” so he thought of France and himself as one.
@@januarysson5633 The country [authority] is me. Yeah! That's exactly what he said. But this doesn't mean - France is me. Rather - my responsibilities and glory are huge like my kingdom.
La baguette de direction d'orchestre n'existait pas du temps de Louis XIV; elle ne fut inventée qu'en 1820 par Louis Spohr, et n'avait pas encore le profil éfilé que nous lui connaissons aujourd'hui. Il y a dans ce film quantité d'anachronismes, dont celui-ci.
Lully mourra suite à un violent coup de bâton sur un pied en dirigeant. De nos jours beaucoup de chefs d'orchestre n'utilisent plus la baguette . . . .
If you see the whole film, Lully was rather a shit. See how he treated Moliere and stole his work. Louis was a hypocrite though. Louis' own brother was gay and didn't get the disapproving treatment that Lully did.
@@heliotropezzz333not completelly hypocritical if we consider that his rational was not moralistic but pragmatic. Accordingly, what could and couldn't be tolerated was more determined by circunstances - political consequences - not universalist and imutable moral principles. Hypocrisy would be an unequal moral judgement, there's none in this conversation, just a demand for comply to de dominant framework of their society.
I noticed throughout the movie Lully always faces the king while keeping time instead of facing the musicians like a modern conductor, was this the accepted practice when performing for royalty at the time?
This unique method of conducting, known as “directing from the floor,” involved Lully standing in front of the musicians facing the king, while beating time with his staff. Lully’s decision to face the king while conducting was a strategic choice that served both practical and symbolic purposes. It facilitated communication, emphasized his status, and reinforced his authority over the musicians, ultimately contributing to the grandeur and spectacle of musical performances in the court of Louis XIV.
Luís XIV era egocêntrico. E queria se destacar na Europa na questão cultural nesse tempo valorizando a dança em especial o ballé em contraponto a toda a Europa que tinha mais gosto pela ópera italiana.
A ópera não tem nem nunca terá a graça do ballet. Começou por ser um entretenimento das massas, do povo, e no começo era vista como uma arte menor. E de facto, eu também não lhe acho interesse nenhum. Quanto ao Luís XIV ele nasceu a saber que era deus, não tem a culpa se o resto dos humanos à sua volta não sabiam o mesmo sobre si mesmos. E em terra de cegos, quem tem olho (quem sabe aquilo que mais ninguém sabe) é literalmente neste caso, rei! Um homem como ele ter-se-ia sempre destacado mesmo que não tivesse nascido para usar uma coroa. "Egocêntrico"!? Tudo começa e acaba no Ego, no eu, no eu sou, so hum. Foi o papel que teve que cumprir, para poder ensinar ao mundo, e à sua populaça primitiva da altura (e de certa forma ainda de hoje), verdadeira classe, beleza, charme e majestade. Quem lhe inveja ou julga, não compreendeu o papel que ele encenou por todos nós, e não aprendeu a lição que ele nos tentou ensinar.
pourquoi???? il est au sommet et ne peut meme pas sauver les apparences pour ne pas mettre en difficulté son bienfaiteur??????? quel con en fait ce Lully.
I hope at some point we watch a movie about Louis XIV the statesman and the military leader. I guess it will be more expensive and harder to make than showing all the time these feminine courtiers and their elaborate dances.
Unfortunately in France we usually prefer to make movies and documentaries about private court life music and all this stuff, which is good because we have movies such as this one or "tous les matins du monde" but indeed it would be better to see french kings in their actual role of kings. Let's not forget France was also the first european military power for at least two centuries
The movie is about the lully and molière not the king. Dance and art were politics and still are. You didn't understand the film nor the period if you didn't get that. Lastly what you consider feminine was considered manly at the time. Wonder about what it says about you.r sexism.
Real men have been dancing since the dawn of time. Men participating in war dances, courtly balls, and contests was very common to show a man's physique, elegance and attract the attention of the other sex. Also, this movie is about Lully anyway...
The dancing is statesmanship. The King is telling a story with each dance. He is telling you who he is and who you are in relation to him. The people of that time believed in balance of left and right brain, the alchemical androgyne or philosopher's stone. Martial talent and raw masculine energy had to be balanced with intuition and beauty. The Sun King was extremely talented in all areas, which is why people were so fascinated by him.
What else to do when you are a fortunate flamboyant teenager King but not in “exercise” until you gets the full Mandate to be King ? Music + Theatre + Dance (Huge Ballet) + Fine Arts + Name it !...After his 23, HE became another ambitious “King of the World” type, non ?
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Pas anti gay. Son pere Louis XIII et son frere le Duc dOrléans l'etaient. Ils avaient leurs favoris et mignons. Et nombreux etaient gay ou bi a la Cour. Le probleme fut les debauches, orgies et abus a Versailles même. Il y eu même un scandale au sujet du Dauphin qui agé de 13 ans a été amené au 'club' gay de Versailles. Ce qu'on voit de Lully est un aspect des moeurs et comportement de la Cour que Louis XIV a taché de reprimer au bout de quelques années de regne. Mais en aucun cas il n'a interdit l'homosexualité comme l'avait fait le Vatican.
Ma scène favorite. Très bien jouée, très bien écrite...on est vraiment transporté dans le temps.
We already had philosopher kings in this Earth... But now, what a decadence!
"Hey Sol, what do you do in your free time?"
Oh nothing, I just cry over dead people
Same bruh don't know if you know the band queen but Freddie's death is a big bruh/sad moment
The scene of the surgery on the Queen Mother really got to me. Poor lady. I guess they didn’t have opium back then.
I can't stand the thought of it. Didn't Louis XIV also go through an extremely painful surgery late in life? I'm glad for modern medicine
My grandmother didn't believe in "the good old days" Having to endure something like this is part of the reason why.
@@googleuser7454 His leg was amputated not too long before his death.
@@googleuser7454 Grand Dieu sauve le roi....
Анна Австрийская болела раком молочной железы и умерла от этого, хотя перенесла несколько операций, наркоща не было...
"Music embodies universal harmony, thus it has a political function in the order that I want to establish. It serves me; it serves the State and God."
- Louis XIV (Magimel) to Lully (Terral)
Vive le Roy Louis XIV! One of the most clever persons of those times...
@@rejmons1 But a tyrant nonetheless.
@@januarysson5633 Tyrant? Louis the XIV? Maybe a bit, but he had two great love: Le douce France and the château de Versailles. For both, he was ready for everything. Even crimes. But, the sins made in the name of love are less incriminatory for sure.
@@rejmons1 You say he had two loves: Le douce France and the chateau of Versailles. Remember he said, “L’état c’est moi” so he thought of France and himself as one.
@@januarysson5633 The country [authority] is me. Yeah! That's exactly what he said. But this doesn't mean - France is me. Rather - my responsibilities and glory are huge like my kingdom.
La baguette de direction d'orchestre n'existait pas du temps de Louis XIV; elle ne fut inventée qu'en 1820 par Louis Spohr, et n'avait pas encore le profil éfilé que nous lui connaissons aujourd'hui. Il y a dans ce film quantité d'anachronismes, dont celui-ci.
Lully mourra suite à un violent coup de bâton sur un pied en dirigeant. De nos jours beaucoup de chefs d'orchestre n'utilisent plus la baguette . . . .
Magimel was sooo good in this! his dancing is great...
Dancing were done by professionals. By ballet dancers
Im better
@@user-qv8nd5gd8s That is what I thought, but you can clearly fully see him dancing complex steps.
@@mee6211peut etre!!
@@mee6211 peut etre!!!?
I feel so bad for Lully, he deserves so much better than this, than the king. But heartbreakingly well played by both actors.
Lui was also jealous of his fun. in such an elusive way.
If you see the whole film, Lully was rather a shit. See how he treated Moliere and stole his work. Louis was a hypocrite though. Louis' own brother was gay and didn't get the disapproving treatment that Lully did.
@@Linbleou Louis had no shortage of fun in his younger days. He became more religiously orthodox in his older days.
@@heliotropezzz333not completelly hypocritical if we consider that his rational was not moralistic but pragmatic.
Accordingly, what could and couldn't be tolerated was more determined by circunstances - political consequences - not universalist and imutable moral principles.
Hypocrisy would be an unequal moral judgement, there's none in this conversation, just a demand for comply to de dominant framework of their society.
don't look at this with today's ways.... it is so stupid. You miss all about that movie.
Great scene !
I noticed throughout the movie Lully always faces the king while keeping time instead of facing the musicians like a modern conductor, was this the accepted practice when performing for royalty at the time?
This unique method of conducting, known as “directing from the floor,” involved Lully standing in front of the musicians facing the king, while beating time with his staff. Lully’s decision to face the king while conducting was a strategic choice that served both practical and symbolic purposes. It facilitated communication, emphasized his status, and reinforced his authority over the musicians, ultimately contributing to the grandeur and spectacle of musical performances in the court of Louis XIV.
@@AlejandraRivera thanks!!
I love dancing
I really like!
Luís XIV era egocêntrico. E queria se destacar na Europa na questão cultural nesse tempo valorizando a dança em especial o ballé em contraponto a toda a Europa que tinha mais gosto pela ópera italiana.
Yes In did ⚜️⚜️⚜️the best builder in Europe till today ❤️❤️❤️
A ópera não tem nem nunca terá a graça do ballet. Começou por ser um entretenimento das massas, do povo, e no começo era vista como uma arte menor. E de facto, eu também não lhe acho interesse nenhum. Quanto ao Luís XIV ele nasceu a saber que era deus, não tem a culpa se o resto dos humanos à sua volta não sabiam o mesmo sobre si mesmos. E em terra de cegos, quem tem olho (quem sabe aquilo que mais ninguém sabe) é literalmente neste caso, rei! Um homem como ele ter-se-ia sempre destacado mesmo que não tivesse nascido para usar uma coroa. "Egocêntrico"!? Tudo começa e acaba no Ego, no eu, no eu sou, so hum. Foi o papel que teve que cumprir, para poder ensinar ao mundo, e à sua populaça primitiva da altura (e de certa forma ainda de hoje), verdadeira classe, beleza, charme e majestade. Quem lhe inveja ou julga, não compreendeu o papel que ele encenou por todos nós, e não aprendeu a lição que ele nos tentou ensinar.
Wait, am I the only one who does not know what film this is from? Someone please tell me!
The king is dancing thats the film's name
Ah, I see now, thank you! I thought it was a description, rather than the title. Now I will seek this out. Merci!
@@KJensenStudio Mon plairsirs
Le Roi danse (titled for the English speaking world as "The King Dances" even though it could have been titled "The King is Dancing").
Le Roi Danse
Pauvre lully....
:)
pourquoi???? il est au sommet et ne peut meme pas sauver les apparences pour ne pas mettre en difficulté son bienfaiteur??????? quel con en fait ce Lully.
Le titre de la musique svp?
Je crois que c'est "Passacaille," de l'opera "Armide" de Lully czcams.com/video/bUH9XZYp7H8/video.html
Pasacaille D´armide de Jean Baptiste Lully
Comment s'appelle le filme?
Le Roi Danse
@@fabs8498 merci!!!
qu'est-ce que Louis a dit dans la video en francais ?? Desole j'entends mal
Je n'ai pas d'amis
I hope at some point we watch a movie about Louis XIV the statesman and the military leader. I guess it will be more expensive and harder to make than showing all the time these feminine courtiers and their elaborate dances.
Unfortunately in France we usually prefer to make movies and documentaries about private court life music and all this stuff, which is good because we have movies such as this one or "tous les matins du monde" but indeed it would be better to see french kings in their actual role of kings. Let's not forget France was also the first european military power for at least two centuries
The movie is about the lully and molière not the king. Dance and art were politics and still are. You didn't understand the film nor the period if you didn't get that. Lastly what you consider feminine was considered manly at the time. Wonder about what it says about you.r sexism.
Real men have been dancing since the dawn of time. Men participating in war dances, courtly balls, and contests was very common to show a man's physique, elegance and attract the attention of the other sex. Also, this movie is about Lully anyway...
The dancing is statesmanship. The King is telling a story with each dance. He is telling you who he is and who you are in relation to him. The people of that time believed in balance of left and right brain, the alchemical androgyne or philosopher's stone. Martial talent and raw masculine energy had to be balanced with intuition and beauty. The Sun King was extremely talented in all areas, which is why people were so fascinated by him.
What else to do when you are a fortunate flamboyant teenager King
but not in “exercise” until you gets the full Mandate to be King ?
Music + Theatre + Dance (Huge Ballet) + Fine Arts + Name it !...After his 23,
HE became another ambitious “King of the World” type, non ?
Baptiste is no a venitian.
bottom king
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Islamiques ?
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Pas anti gay. Son pere Louis XIII et son frere le Duc dOrléans l'etaient. Ils avaient leurs favoris et mignons. Et nombreux etaient gay ou bi a la Cour. Le probleme fut les debauches, orgies et abus a Versailles même. Il y eu même un scandale au sujet du Dauphin qui agé de 13 ans a été amené au 'club' gay de Versailles. Ce qu'on voit de Lully est un aspect des moeurs et comportement de la Cour que Louis XIV a taché de reprimer au bout de quelques années
de regne. Mais en aucun cas il n'a interdit l'homosexualité comme l'avait fait le Vatican.