The TVS I-Qube is the Sigma (silent killer) of all. I predicted the situation of Ola once I saw Ather overheated😂. And you guys are amazing, not only you read our comments but also work on it. So Impressive of you. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Due to the hub-motor layout, adding a pillion added the least amount of stress. Kudos to TVS for being the best of the OG OEMs to get their electric scooters right.
@@Yeaitts no.. Ola S1 is not hub motor. Ola has a swing arm mounded motor. (Basically a mid-drive motor mounted on swing arm). Hub Motor is inside the rear wheel (In other words, the rear wheel itself is the hup motor)
The Ola Sa Air that's the cheapest Ola Escooter, will fare better due to the same reason. Hub motor. And a powerful one. I've test ridden the iQube. It's very underrated. Feels like a ICE scooter.
I too live in a hilly state of Meghalaya [ 1600-2000 ASL] and my ola s1 pro too face heating issue frequently for 5 months but after ola change the MCU in my scooter[ February], heating issue in my s1 pro was solved and even range has increased from the previous 90km to 105 km on a full charge.
I'm satisfied TVS IQUBE user for over 1.5 month now. We've driven with pillion with load on front on hilly roads, but it has shown absolutely no lag in pickup. Power and Torque is impressive. It doesn't even struggle a bit while climbing. TVS is best as compared to first gen startups like Ather and OLA, they don't have any previous experience in scooters, while TVS has a legacy.
I don't live on hilly road ola wipes both of these scooters ather and TVs in all parameters and that too with ease 😊😊. Ola is more practical if u install double sided footrest accessories from diamond company. My wife and my son we all three enjoy comfortable ride. We have been to Lonavla without any hitting issue.
TVS for sure since it has high low end torque with no loss of power. Hub motor have this advantage. In ola and ather belt drive might have belt elasticity during the load pull which has slight loss of power
I am user of ather 450x gen 3. I live in tirupati. I climbed tirumala ghat road many times which is around 20 kms with pillion and using ride, sport modes. No heating issues. Very impressive performance.
I've been using Ather for a year now, trust me I've took my ather with pillion on Chamundi HILLS, maintaining speed around 60-70 that too on a hot sunny day, I've never faced heating issues on my ather
enen i have been using by Ather gen 2 in Guwahati for the last 1 year... climbed many hills with heavy pillion @ sports and warp mode in summer (40° c) and never faced any heating issues... may be gen 3 ather need better MCU or optimisations..
TVS generally has good build quality not just outside but inside. But i am surprised that Ather overheated... there's room for improvement. Now I can't wait TVS to launch their Creon.
Ather is heating up as it delivers its best performance but iqube is barely climbing, ather and ola are perfect but iqube will be useless on heavy usage, and yes i'm also waiting for tvs creon
Very timely video! I just took a test ride of iqube today. I liked it. Tested it with pillion on roads with speed breakers and it performed well. Also it can achieve good speeds on clear roads. It should have option to add noise artificially because it is so silent it takes people around by surprise. I think it is major safety concern particularly on internal city lanes with blind turns.
Yes, I agree. Sometimes it is said that loud pipes save live. But i don't totally agreed but when the time comes.. you know. Iqube silentness is best use when visiting sanctuary... if they allowed 😂
Duh! Use the horn for what it is invented for. And as per using artificial sound I don't think it is going to help. People never move even when they hear an ICE vehicle coming behind them, how do you think artificial sound is going to be of any use?
This is what means to have years of experience of scooter manufacturing. A vehicle should always be something more than sum of its parts. I'm sure Ather/OLA will improve with time.
@@shantanupawar3609 Totally agree with you. But here's a catch. Remember that Ather and TVS use around 3kw motor (Rated Power) . The Mid-drive is easier to cooled so the peak power can be pushed to 6.4kw while the TVS hub motor can only be push to 4.4kw. (I appreciate TVS work on finding the sweet spot) On the other hand, Hub Motor has great initial torque but mid-drive although it has slight loss of power, it an be tuned to deliver higher transmission ratio. But what TVS got things right here is that hub motor requires less maintenance and leave more space inside. But what ather got right is that mid-drive helps in better weight distribution and peak power.
@@vlramnghaka I hope they start using a higher working voltage like 72 volts it will reduce time for charging batteries and output circuit will need less current for same power...
Thanks a lot guys for the practical reviews. My trust on iQube increased further. Though I like the Ather, found the ergonomics to be discomforting, during turns handlebar is obstructed by knees. Guys can you review the ergonomics too?
as a ather owner I have noticed torque in sport is lesser compared to ride or warp mode but it allows higher speed (probably why its preffered more than eco for max range by experienced owners) but warp should have been used for this test.I haven't faced overheating with pillion (160+kg) in warp
Hey Dewang, we didn't use Warp mode as the performance is definitely better but then range would have taken a hit. As we had seen in our previous test, the Ather's performance had suffered in Eco mode and hence Sport mode was selected.
Yes bro they are eagerly doing these pathetic mode tests when nobody asked them to test in sports mode. R they insane, ola has 15min time for sports mode, but in normal mode only is enough for those pathetic two competitors. Need to workout on their videos
We didn't select Warp or Hyper mode as the range in both these modes is very less. The sport mode offers a balance of performance and range, as for the TVS since there are only 2 modes, we opted for sport mode.
OLA is buggy since inception, and people living in tier 2 & tier 3 don't need gimmicks, imagine you're trying to replace an ICE market with EV but you happen to tap only the market who is forgiving and remains educated! What about the society who don't want the features and use their vehicle from Point A to Point B. Ola sucks and so does Aether as it charges a premium and does not justify the price tag! I'm still hopeful from Suhas (Simple Electric), just wish that he is noting down everything that is discussed now a days!! But till then it's a win for TVS!! A job well done!!
If this was a test of distance to empty with pillion why was sports mode used. I mean we should have tried on all modes to see which one lives under which circumstances to get the clear winner.
It was pretty clear that Ola would overheat even if it was a single Rider. But the fact that Ather overheated was a major disappointment. IQube though was a major surprise!
Hi, since the rider and pillion had to be consistent, we had no other option and that's why we mentioned the temperature difference to maintain authenticity of the tests.
Exactly, 26 degrees and 30 degrees may not seem much on paper but it makes a huge difference for electronics (as well as humans). Maybe all of them would have climbed easily at 26, I'm not in favour of any scooter but not a fair comparison at all.
Tvs will win. I think with battery pack... Ather will climb easily but the charge will gone too much... Ola may heat... Tvs and chetak will climb easily because of hub motor but chetak charge may down...
In Mizoram state, the iQube is usable but sometimes we have to find a bypass or let the pillion get down for a few meters. The Ather is the most usable in a hilly area, i hope tvs launch iQube with some gear reduction for some buyer who needs Gradeability instead of top speed.
Ev needs to improvise alot. Presently this technology,BMS, battery cost, etc are new . People think twice before purchasing. And share actual, correct, authentic data to govt, companies so they can make policy for people.
It's a good thing to mention the outside temperature. And yes Ola goes to safe mode when battery touches 40 deg. But the difference from TVS to ola is 7 degree of ambient temperature. This seems unfair.
This test must be done in future. New Ola S1 Pro Gen2, TVS IQube S/ST, New Ather 450X & the Upcoming River Indie. (and probably with TVS X) Ola claims "massive renovation" its on its new S1 Pro Gen2. And how it perform with others whih were also updated.
And also i am an owner of the iqube since 2 months done about 2300kms i feel it overheats with a pillion on and performance drops and a continuous beep sound comes .. when i asked tvs service center about it they have no clear cut answer on what is happening exactly. I get it the performance drops after a long ride due to heat but what was the beep sound about while riding no proper solution from them yet. Secondly I found that the road grip on wet road is pretty bad. The front wheel skids when we break we should we very careful. The rear break is just not enough to stop the vehicle so when we use both breaks in wet roads very gently at low speeds also it skids and even the rear wheel skids when we try to accelerate due to sudden torque. Gives no confidence on wet road. Is this the problem with the stock tvs tyres?... But other than this the scooter has been every good
My friends go to hills plenty of times in ola on normal mode. Everyone knows ola has the most power and overheats. Ather is not powerful and it also overheated. Probably has to do something with updates. Older olas seem more prone to overheating than newer ones. Looks like Ola is improving continuously.
it is not solely the power which overheats the Vehicle, its the engineering/design mistake that overheats the ola. Ather and Iqube has Metal battery casing which dissipate heats faster. But the ola has plastic casing which is not great in heat dissipation. Plus Ather has a fan which activates when the battery and motor meets certain temperature. Theoretically, Iqube must be most prone to heating issue as it uses hub motor which is the hardest to be actively cooled. But we can see the beauty of TVS engineering in Iqube: A 3kw motor can be peaked/stressed to ~6kw, but TVS limits to just 4.4kw. so as to give a consistent performance of both the motor and most importantly, the battery. This model of not stressing to much is also evident in their upcoming TVS X, having 7kw motor; which theoretically can be stresses to ~15kw but only limit to 11kw
TVS have bldc motor so as new it will run good but age out early. Also, it was run at 26degs outside & Ather was at 30degs outside. This is a significant difference. So, for me, Ather is a winner. Also, Ather gave good range as well comfortable ride both
Hats off to the Iqube. Clearly TVS has done an amazing job. imagine being more heavier and managing to still complete it with a pillion. 4 degrees isnt a night and day difference. Good job TVS.
For someone who stays in Mumbai, and charging being a real pain in the butt. Ntorq is a really practical and fun alternative to EV scooters. According to me even the mathematics related to finances also work in favor of the Ntorq. I am really favouring Ntorq while purchasing a scooter over any EV. Can we have a real world ownership comparison between it and the top EVs?
I rarely got a scooter for more than 3-4years and then sold at lower price. Giving that timeframe, the advantage of EV is not that much (considering high initial cost) however it is good to have as an alternative to kept for more than 5 years with ICE still in garage. But EV is still a very good and practical choice for city rides over ICE.
Ola should work on his scooter... Don't know why they always failed in the challenges... Ola has more powerful and advanced motor then others also they have bigger battery pack...
Didnt expected Ather to overheat and that to New Gen 3 , I have Gen2 it never overheated we have tortured it and i rode it on full speeds before it never overheated.
I own Ather 450x in a village located in a hilly area. I ride triple seat at times but it never stops due to overheating. I think something is wrong with your vehicle only. Get it checked out.
Me too... Can't wait to see Ampere Primus on the road. Although Li-ion has higher power to weight ratio. LFP has higher tolerance over hot and cold climate. Wish Ampere got 6kw motor which is relatively 125cc engine.
My TVs iqube overheats with a pillon after riding for 25-30km straight especially in summer when the temp is 33-36 degree.. test the vehicles in such temperatures because it's summer time and temperatures will reach 40plus
Okay. But imo, it's false. My practical experience shows very different results. And, I have noticed that your previous tests were also false according to my experience. I have used both Iqube and Ather. Yes, IQube has the consistency, but what on earth makes your Ather stop!? My Ather 450X with a pillion can go number to number performance with ~1.5% change maximum. For example, last day, I went for a 60 km ride, and around 16 to 20km was fort/hill climb. I had a pillion sitting back. My Ather was on Ride mode. Started with 100% and 85km range. When I reached the destination, the range left on my bike was 16KMS. And mind you not, my average speed was 50kph+ Same did with IQUBE a few months before, it got me reached to the destination but only 7% range left, I was on normal mode and started the journey with 90% charge. By the way, I live in Kolhapur district, and the average temperature is above 30 and 35.
Hi Leo, thanks for sharing your experience with us. The test conducted by us was done with all honest, having said that, the results did surprise us as well. We had never faced heating issues with the Ather previously, but then again, what we showed was the truth. It also depends on parameters such as ambient temperature, rider+ pillion load, ride mode and more importantly gradient of the climb.
Which one you would prefer i have to purchase anyone of it daily run 40-50 km mostly weight load is 80 kg but sometimes couple of times in a week 150-200 kg
I want a electric scooter for commercial use with range of 130 + kilometers and a load of luggage worth 100 kg excluding the driver. Can you guys suggest me a good electric scooter for these needs?
Actually Ather is best cuz not everyone will drive in hilly areas and moreover it's cost efficient. TVS comes with motor attached to the rear wheel which makes commuters riding on hill in wet conditions makes them think again 🥴.. ATHER is ✨
The hub motor of TVS is water proof😅. But i agree mid drive motor can take much deeper water. Buy the way they have their own advantage and disadvantage as well. Mid-drive can be cooled easily, so peak power can be push further, can also be geard, good weight distribution. But hub-motor require lower maintenance, easy and cost effective, lower loss of power in transmission, higher initial torque, low noise.
For us Ather too is among the best EV scooters for urban usage, but this hill climb test series was done so that fellow bikers from hilly areas can understand whether an EV makes sense for them or not.
I don't know but I fell you are guys act way too partial for Ola. But you always take side for chetak, iqube and ather. you always but the old gen Ola and always make it loose to defame it infront of audience. stop doing partiality. bring a new Ola scooter just like you bought new ather.
The TVS I-Qube is the Sigma (silent killer) of all. I predicted the situation of Ola once I saw Ather overheated😂. And you guys are amazing, not only you read our comments but also work on it. So Impressive of you. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Thank you Aayan for the positive words, do share suggestions for future tests.
Due to the hub-motor layout, adding a pillion added the least amount of stress. Kudos to TVS for being the best of the OG OEMs to get their electric scooters right.
Ola is also having a hub motor right? But i don't think that they got it right
@@Yeaitts no.. Ola S1 is not hub motor. Ola has a swing arm mounded motor. (Basically a mid-drive motor mounted on swing arm). Hub Motor is inside the rear wheel (In other words, the rear wheel itself is the hup motor)
@@vlramnghaka oh👍
The Ola Sa Air that's the cheapest Ola Escooter, will fare better due to the same reason. Hub motor. And a powerful one.
I've test ridden the iQube. It's very underrated. Feels like a ICE scooter.
battery safty k nam pe tvs i cube pe kuch nahi hai..🤣🤣
I too live in a hilly state of Meghalaya [ 1600-2000 ASL] and my ola s1 pro too face heating issue frequently for 5 months but after ola change the MCU in my scooter[ February], heating issue in my s1 pro was solved and even range has increased from the previous 90km to 105 km on a full charge.
Hey Sony, how has the overall experience been so far, do share it with us.
How did they change the mcu? How much it cost. Did it covered in warranty?
@ZigWheels After ola changed the MCU in my s1 pro, no more heating issue, even climbing very steep hills
@Navas P J I didn't pay anything. it's free and heating problem solved.
I'm satisfied TVS IQUBE user for over 1.5 month now. We've driven with pillion with load on front on hilly roads, but it has shown absolutely no lag in pickup. Power and Torque is impressive. It doesn't even struggle a bit while climbing. TVS is best as compared to first gen startups like Ather and OLA, they don't have any previous experience in scooters, while TVS has a legacy.
If legacy maatered, Bajaj would have come on top. It's engineering
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 Yes offcourse with legacy comes this impressive Engineering
What about bldc motor , see structure of motor in tvs
Have you ever used Ather or Ola?
I think, no.
Because we have iQube std and Ola S1pro.
First remove prejudices & have a ride on other scooters also
I don't live on hilly road ola wipes both of these scooters ather and TVs in all parameters 😊😊.
I don't live on hilly road ola wipes both of these scooters ather and TVs in all parameters and that too with ease 😊😊.
Ola is more practical if u install double sided footrest accessories from diamond company. My wife and my son we all three enjoy comfortable ride.
We have been to Lonavla without any hitting issue.
Agreed with you.
Yes, I think Ola is the best!😍🙌
I never had an issue on my gen 3 at steep climb, surprisingly this is a newer ather.
Hey Rahul, this was a surprise for us as well as the Ather had no issues in our previous 2 hill climb tests.
@@zigwheels maybe the latest motor controller. They developed it on house
TVS for sure since it has high low end torque with no loss of power. Hub motor have this advantage. In ola and ather belt drive might have belt elasticity during the load pull which has slight loss of power
I am user of ather 450x gen 3. I live in tirupati. I climbed tirumala ghat road many times which is around 20 kms with pillion and using ride, sport modes. No heating issues. Very impressive performance.
Thank you for the information, but it failed this test.
@@harshmaurya7071 they should use sports mode 😑
Hi what is the weight of both pillion and rider
@@mepalak 130 kgs both together
I've been using Ather for a year now, trust me I've took my ather with pillion on Chamundi HILLS, maintaining speed around 60-70 that too on a hot sunny day, I've never faced heating issues on my ather
pillion?
enen i have been using by Ather gen 2 in Guwahati for the last 1 year... climbed many hills with heavy pillion @ sports and warp mode in summer (40° c) and never faced any heating issues... may be gen 3 ather need better MCU or optimisations..
@@dadultv7258 also depends on ambient temperature.
@@dadultv7258 could be their new motor controller. They developed in house
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 may be in gen3 ather they are extracting more power from the same motor (gen2 motor). its 6.2kw now vs 6kw earlier
TVS will win for sure Ather 2nd ola 3rd
I told you 😤😹👍
Easily
Tvs is slow its like riding in ride mode in ather. 😂
Tvs 🎉🎉
@@Ashifmkaizer ather is a complete failure with its heat management lol😂 are you blind or what
TVS generally has good build quality not just outside but inside. But i am surprised that Ather overheated... there's room for improvement. Now I can't wait TVS to launch their Creon.
battery safty k nam pe tvs i cube pe kuch nahi hai..🤣🤣
Ather is heating up as it delivers its best performance but iqube is barely climbing, ather and ola are perfect but iqube will be useless on heavy usage, and yes i'm also waiting for tvs creon
Very timely video! I just took a test ride of iqube today. I liked it. Tested it with pillion on roads with speed breakers and it performed well. Also it can achieve good speeds on clear roads. It should have option to add noise artificially because it is so silent it takes people around by surprise. I think it is major safety concern particularly on internal city lanes with blind turns.
heard about horns on curves?
Yes, I agree. Sometimes it is said that loud pipes save live. But i don't totally agreed but when the time comes.. you know.
Iqube silentness is best use when visiting sanctuary... if they allowed 😂
Duh! Use the horn for what it is invented for. And as per using artificial sound I don't think it is going to help. People never move even when they hear an ICE vehicle coming behind them, how do you think artificial sound is going to be of any use?
Price?
@@KKVinayKumar Low or no noise of EV compromises situational awareness of others around them. I saw startled faces during my test ride.
This is what means to have years of experience of scooter manufacturing. A vehicle should always be something more than sum of its parts. I'm sure Ather/OLA will improve with time.
dude, tvs iqube sucks inside the city
Was surprised that Iqube won with a bldc motor this will be best for Goa....
In bldc there is no power loss which ola and ather posses with their belt drive.
@@shantanupawar3609 Totally agree with you. But here's a catch. Remember that Ather and TVS use around 3kw motor (Rated Power) . The Mid-drive is easier to cooled so the peak power can be pushed to 6.4kw while the TVS hub motor can only be push to 4.4kw. (I appreciate TVS work on finding the sweet spot)
On the other hand, Hub Motor has great initial torque but mid-drive although it has slight loss of power, it an be tuned to deliver higher transmission ratio. But what TVS got things right here is that hub motor requires less maintenance and leave more space inside. But what ather got right is that mid-drive helps in better weight distribution and peak power.
@@vlramnghaka I hope they start using a higher working voltage like 72 volts it will reduce time for charging batteries and output circuit will need less current for same power...
@@shantanupawar3609 Also better regenerative braking ....
This series of videos will change the minds of the people to choose the tvs right and i am happy that i am having that too.❤❤❤❤
Thanks, hope you have subscribed :)
Thanks a lot guys for the practical reviews. My trust on iQube increased further. Though I like the Ather, found the ergonomics to be discomforting, during turns handlebar is obstructed by knees. Guys can you review the ergonomics too?
Thank you, Prasanth. We have talked about the ergonomics in the individual real-world tests of each scooter.
@@zigwheels But I am asking for an ergonomics comparo
as a ather owner I have noticed torque in sport is lesser compared to ride or warp mode but it allows higher speed (probably why its preffered more than eco for max range by experienced owners) but warp should have been used for this test.I haven't faced overheating with pillion (160+kg) in warp
lol we can understand the pain bro..being smoked by a much more affordable scooter.
@@sathyaki i have done hill test with my ather it never got overheated 🤔
Thank god! I thought I was the only one who observed this.
Hey Dewang, we didn't use Warp mode as the performance is definitely better but then range would have taken a hit. As we had seen in our previous test, the Ather's performance had suffered in Eco mode and hence Sport mode was selected.
Again great thumbnail 😮💯💯👌👌👌
Y u people are creating fake news about Ola y don’t u ride in normal mode
Yes bro they are eagerly doing these pathetic mode tests when nobody asked them to test in sports mode. R they insane, ola has 15min time for sports mode, but in normal mode only is enough for those pathetic two competitors. Need to workout on their videos
We didn't select Warp or Hyper mode as the range in both these modes is very less. The sport mode offers a balance of performance and range, as for the TVS since there are only 2 modes, we opted for sport mode.
@@zigwheels Thanks Zigwheels!!
OLA is buggy since inception, and people living in tier 2 & tier 3 don't need gimmicks, imagine you're trying to replace an ICE market with EV but you happen to tap only the market who is forgiving and remains educated! What about the society who don't want the features and use their vehicle from Point A to Point B. Ola sucks and so does Aether as it charges a premium and does not justify the price tag! I'm still hopeful from Suhas (Simple Electric), just wish that he is noting down everything that is discussed now a days!! But till then it's a win for TVS!! A job well done!!
There is nothing fake in this it's bitter truth, Ola is incapable on hilly regions no matter what mode you use it will heat up and stall in 5 kms..
That is why experience matters. The latter two is new comers. TVS has experience
If this was a test of distance to empty with pillion why was sports mode used. I mean we should have tried on all modes to see which one lives under which circumstances to get the clear winner.
Plz make video on new ola s1 pro gen 2 hill climb
Next must be drag race or initial pickup challenge
Wait and watch ;)
please try Bajaj Chetak at sports mode with doubles hill climb test
It was pretty clear that Ola would overheat even if it was a single Rider. But the fact that Ather overheated was a major disappointment. IQube though was a major surprise!
Temperature of environment was not equal which makes this test a little bit unfair
Btw zigwheels does the best tests so far
haha justifications starts..lol
@@sathyaki ola owner ki smell aa rahi hai kyu ki tvs owner jitna shant swabhav ka hona aasan nahi
Hi, since the rider and pillion had to be consistent, we had no other option and that's why we mentioned the temperature difference to maintain authenticity of the tests.
@@zigwheels I just putted my thoughts out in the comments section I am not blaming you guys. I bought the ather 450x after you guys did reviewed it
Exactly, 26 degrees and 30 degrees may not seem much on paper but it makes a huge difference for electronics (as well as humans). Maybe all of them would have climbed easily at 26, I'm not in favour of any scooter but not a fair comparison at all.
Pls make the same video again with the Ola Gen 2
Tvs will win. I think with battery pack... Ather will climb easily but the charge will gone too much... Ola may heat... Tvs and chetak will climb easily because of hub motor but chetak charge may down...
Chetak isn't hub motor, it has motor mounted just beside wheel
For uphill drive , motor must be directly mounted to wheel
Thats it result of this compare
Nothing else
In Mizoram state, the iQube is usable but sometimes we have to find a bypass or let the pillion get down for a few meters. The Ather is the most usable in a hilly area, i hope tvs launch iQube with some gear reduction for some buyer who needs Gradeability instead of top speed.
Ev needs to improvise alot. Presently this technology,BMS, battery cost, etc are new . People think twice before purchasing. And share actual, correct, authentic data to govt, companies so they can make policy for people.
It's a good thing to mention the outside temperature.
And yes Ola goes to safe mode when battery touches 40 deg. But the difference from TVS to ola is 7 degree of ambient temperature. This seems unfair.
Agree
Loved the ending hope to see it soon.😊
Hope you have subscribed, the next video drops soon :)
Did the Ather not go forward when it overheated? Mine overheats when I go uphill on sports mode but it never died on me while overheating
Bro same here man, the ather never shuts down when over heated 😂. The fans kickin! Somethings wrong with this video.
Yes, even we were surprised. We shut off the scooter and waited for a couple of mins, post which it worked fine.
That's the difference between experienced one and a nube..
This test must be done in future. New Ola S1 Pro Gen2, TVS IQube S/ST, New Ather 450X & the Upcoming River Indie. (and probably with TVS X)
Ola claims "massive renovation" its on its new S1 Pro Gen2. And how it perform with others whih were also updated.
Should have included Chetak also in the test.
And also i am an owner of the iqube since 2 months done about 2300kms i feel it overheats with a pillion on and performance drops and a continuous beep sound comes .. when i asked tvs service center about it they have no clear cut answer on what is happening exactly. I get it the performance drops after a long ride due to heat but what was the beep sound about while riding no proper solution from them yet. Secondly I found that the road grip on wet road is pretty bad. The front wheel skids when we break we should we very careful. The rear break is just not enough to stop the vehicle so when we use both breaks in wet roads very gently at low speeds also it skids and even the rear wheel skids when we try to accelerate due to sudden torque. Gives no confidence on wet road. Is this the problem with the stock tvs tyres?... But other than this the scooter has been every good
Thanks for sharing your experience with us Harshith.
Yes change the tyres
Please try in Shimla road if you wanna know EV real hill climb capacity
My friends go to hills plenty of times in ola on normal mode. Everyone knows ola has the most power and overheats. Ather is not powerful and it also overheated. Probably has to do something with updates. Older olas seem more prone to overheating than newer ones. Looks like Ola is improving continuously.
it is not solely the power which overheats the Vehicle, its the engineering/design mistake that overheats the ola. Ather and Iqube has Metal battery casing which dissipate heats faster. But the ola has plastic casing which is not great in heat dissipation. Plus Ather has a fan which activates when the battery and motor meets certain temperature. Theoretically, Iqube must be most prone to heating issue as it uses hub motor which is the hardest to be actively cooled. But we can see the beauty of TVS engineering in Iqube: A 3kw motor can be peaked/stressed to ~6kw, but TVS limits to just 4.4kw. so as to give a consistent performance of both the motor and most importantly, the battery. This model of not stressing to much is also evident in their upcoming TVS X, having 7kw motor; which theoretically can be stresses to ~15kw but only limit to 11kw
TVS have bldc motor so as new it will run good but age out early. Also, it was run at 26degs outside & Ather was at 30degs outside. This is a significant difference. So, for me, Ather is a winner. Also, Ather gave good range as well comfortable ride both
Hats off to the Iqube. Clearly TVS has done an amazing job. imagine being more heavier and managing to still complete it with a pillion. 4 degrees isnt a night and day difference. Good job TVS.
This test was really awesome
Thank you!
For someone who stays in Mumbai, and charging being a real pain in the butt. Ntorq is a really practical and fun alternative to EV scooters.
According to me even the mathematics related to finances also work in favor of the Ntorq.
I am really favouring Ntorq while purchasing a scooter over any EV.
Can we have a real world ownership comparison between it and the top EVs?
I rarely got a scooter for more than 3-4years and then sold at lower price. Giving that timeframe, the advantage of EV is not that much (considering high initial cost) however it is good to have as an alternative to kept for more than 5 years with ICE still in garage. But EV is still a very good and practical choice for city rides over ICE.
Hi Royston, that's a great idea, we shall work on it.
Wondering why none of the channels are including the Vida V1 in their electric scooter tests, such a nice scooter
Hi, Hero hasn't added the Vida V1 to its media fleet yet, we are in talks with them, hopefully it will be available by next month.
Ola should work on his scooter... Don't know why they always failed in the challenges... Ola has more powerful and advanced motor then others also they have bigger battery pack...
Because ola did not worked on battery cooling system
You should have include chetak
Bald and bold. funny guy nice style keep coming been missed u and ur style
Just go for petrol scooter instead of electric if you live in up hill area because 30-40 kmph range is too much low
Full variety's of videos 👍🏻
Thanks Haris :)
Didnt expected Ather to overheat and that to New Gen 3 , I have Gen2 it never overheated we have tortured it and i rode it on full speeds before it never overheated.
Ather is doing extreme cost cutting in new models while at the same time increasing prices every year.
I own Ather 450x in a village located in a hilly area. I ride triple seat at times but it never stops due to overheating. I think something is wrong with your vehicle only. Get it checked out.
Try it with Ampere Primus as it has LFP battery pack.
Me too... Can't wait to see Ampere Primus on the road. Although Li-ion has higher power to weight ratio. LFP has higher tolerance over hot and cold climate.
Wish Ampere got 6kw motor which is relatively 125cc engine.
My TVs iqube overheats with a pillon after riding for 25-30km straight especially in summer when the temp is 33-36 degree.. test the vehicles in such temperatures because it's summer time and temperatures will reach 40plus
then think about the situation in the other 2..lol
We shall do a summer EV test as suggested, thank you.
Hill climb test of simple one and river indie
Okay. But imo, it's false.
My practical experience shows very different results.
And, I have noticed that your previous tests were also false according to my experience.
I have used both Iqube and Ather.
Yes, IQube has the consistency, but what on earth makes your Ather stop!?
My Ather 450X with a pillion can go number to number performance with ~1.5% change maximum.
For example, last day, I went for a 60 km ride, and around 16 to 20km was fort/hill climb. I had a pillion sitting back. My Ather was on Ride mode. Started with 100% and 85km range. When I reached the destination, the range left on my bike was 16KMS. And mind you not, my average speed was 50kph+
Same did with IQUBE a few months before, it got me reached to the destination but only 7% range left, I was on normal mode and started the journey with 90% charge.
By the way, I live in Kolhapur district, and the average temperature is above 30 and 35.
Hi Leo, thanks for sharing your experience with us. The test conducted by us was done with all honest, having said that, the results did surprise us as well. We had never faced heating issues with the Ather previously, but then again, what we showed was the truth. It also depends on parameters such as ambient temperature, rider+ pillion load, ride mode and more importantly gradient of the climb.
Do it once again with updated version
Next time Please do it with Ola S1 Pro, Simple one, Ather 450X & TVS I Qube ST
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@zigwheels please pass on to your 100th generation from now to make a comparison with Simple One.
@@alikaseri9952 Ahahahahha!
It's not a fair comparison because temperature was high at the time of OLA Riding & low when the TVS there was a advantage to TVS Iquib
Which one you would prefer i have to purchase anyone of it daily run 40-50 km mostly weight load is 80 kg but sometimes couple of times in a week 150-200 kg
Run the iQube at 33 degree celsius then compare.
My condolences and wishes with Ola in advance 😂
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I want a electric scooter for commercial use with range of 130 + kilometers and a load of luggage worth 100 kg excluding the driver. Can you guys suggest me a good electric scooter for these needs?
What is the new battery cost of iqube and how long will it last?
Why didn't you try in normal mode
Hero electric?
Can give me answers that which vehicle you used for shooting this video.
IC engines supremacy. The range these scooters clock is less than the what activa give in kmpl
I am nowhere near hilly areas for city daily ride which is best with pillion?
What about regular ride which one is the best
Why didn't you add hero Vida to this test?
Media unit still unavailable :(
@@zigwheels we shall look into this...
Iam not able to understand how the ather heated i have driven through sinhagad inclines in pune that to in hot summer...
Tvs shud bring SCOOTY ES’s ev version.
Bro ur communication is next level
Is that the Gen3 model for Ather 450x?
Please add Vida V1 pro to the tests
Still waiting for simple one to win. Such comparisons....
Ola's hyper mode is best.
Why not ipraise plus
Why didn't you add ampere primus ?
Why are electric scooters from Hero not taken for test
No offence but i drove ather in hilly area tripcc...no doubt tvs gave this channel funding
It's so much fun to ride ola on highways
I enjoy cruise control so much
In hilly areas hub motor scooters perform better.
What about ola gen 2 11000 watt power
Ola S1 Air Add and Start this challenge
Most people choose ola over other ev because it's best.
Touring le liye electric bike kab tak a sakta hai
I might be buying ev soon, and its going to be tvs iqube.. thanks for these excellent prectical reviews
Actually Ather is best cuz not everyone will drive in hilly areas and moreover it's cost efficient. TVS comes with motor attached to the rear wheel which makes commuters riding on hill in wet conditions makes them think again 🥴.. ATHER is ✨
The hub motor of TVS is water proof😅. But i agree mid drive motor can take much deeper water.
Buy the way they have their own advantage and disadvantage as well. Mid-drive can be cooled easily, so peak power can be push further, can also be geard, good weight distribution. But hub-motor require lower maintenance, easy and cost effective, lower loss of power in transmission, higher initial torque, low noise.
@@vlramnghaka I think you own a iqube 😜. But I'd still go for Ather for it's reliability .
Edit: BTW Thanks for sharing your thoughts 😀
@@GurukiranMN No... I didn't own an EV... EV is not for touring 😆
For us Ather too is among the best EV scooters for urban usage, but this hill climb test series was done so that fellow bikers from hilly areas can understand whether an EV makes sense for them or not.
If you are in a hilly area....then Ntorq is the answer...(Based on climax)😊
U can try ola s1 pro gen 2 now it is better.
Ola will be win 👍
Ola couldn't do hill climb with single rider also 😂
Plastic toy😅
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Winner kaun hai ye batao Bhai, I am intoxicated while watching the video.😂😂😂
Iqube is the winner, I knew it😂😂😂
Proud to be an ather owner
Tvs iquibe s is better than other
Ye sab doglapana hai, jaake activa 125 lelo aur khush raho
TVS I Qube need more range 150 km to 200 km milenge
I don't know but I fell you are guys act way too partial for Ola. But you always take side for chetak, iqube and ather. you always but the old gen Ola and always make it loose to defame it infront of audience. stop doing partiality. bring a new Ola scooter just like you bought new ather.
Next tug of war 💪
Hahaha, as cool as it sounds, we believe in practical and logical tests, not abuse test vehicles.