Mass at St Mary Magdalene Catholic Church, Rose Bay, Sydney (1965)
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2024
- Low Mass with hymns at St Mary Magdalene Catholic Church in Rose Bay, Sydney, NSW, Australia. Perhaps utilising the 1964 or 1965 'interim Missal', which retained many identifying features of the "Traditional Latin Mass" but permitted wider use of the vernacular for the readings and a few prayers and the addition of some optional changes.
Celebrant is Father Neil Collins. Homilist is Father Julian Miller, who didn't say anything interesting and later abandoned the priesthood so I muted him!
Recorded for ABC programme "Divine Service"
How nice to see Mass that is Catholic for a change, not that guitar hoe-down mess we so often have.
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Wait where is the audio of this priest' sermon? I could not hear a thing. I'd love to hear his sermon.
Read the description 😅
@@BasedInAustralia where did you find this clip?
@@instantinople3796 I stole it from here aso.gov.au/titles/tv/divine-service-rose-bay/
Is there a full recording of this mass?
Not for free online. It would be in NFSA's private archives. aso.gov.au/titles/tv/divine-service-rose-bay/
What's the name of the hymn sung at this mass
I believe it is by the beloved Australian Catholic hymn writers Richard Connolly and James McAuley. I cannot find what it is called. I could also be wrong.
You can sing hymns in a low mass?
Yes, even in the vernacular. That is where we get the dreadful "four hymn sandwich" we still regularly hear in NO parishes today.
After 2nd Vatican Council, isn't it?
Vatican II ended the same year, 1965, in December. I do not know the exact date of this video, but probably not. However, the document on liturgy was promulgated in 1963 and official experiments had began to be used in 1964 (and much further in 1965) in many places. What we see in this short video, however, does seem to me to be consistent with what you might have seen at a pre-conciliar Low Mass.
@@BasedInAustralia the celebrant seems to have a pocket missal on the altar, along with the Altar missal. I'm guessing that this is Holy Mass according to the very short-lived 1964 Missal. Basically, the 1962 missal with the propers and parts of the ordinary in the vernacular.
@@notsparctacus Good catch. I think you're probably right. That's sort of what I suspected in the description but couldn't find any proof.
However -- I found a commenter on this NLM article suggesting that vernacular readings were permitted to replace those found in the Missal by the 1960 revised code of rubrics, though. I don't know if he's right and how quickly/far it might have spread - that is all I can find on the matter. Do you know anything about that? www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2021/10/against-vernacular-readings-in.html#disqus_thread