2015 Personality Lecture 09: Depth Psychology: Sigmund Freud (Part 02)
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I own a professional painting company, I spend most of my days laboring away making peoples homes or buisness look beautiful again. I love this job because it allows me the opportunity to listen to audio books and lectures like this. I never got the chance to go off to college because I became a young parent at 17, but it's because of videos like this and the work of people like Jordan that I've been able to expand my knowledge. I've read a bunch of the books off of your reading list and the deeper I get into it the more I'm finding out what I'm truly interested in. It's like you say "If somthing is bothering you, it's your problem. That's your calling to figure out and solve it".
Thank you for what seems like an endless amount of content (all though I'm chewing through it rather fast) it has provided me with countless hours of engagement.
Potyok BJJ - I also own a painting business and I wasn’t a good fit for college but have also been able to delve into content like this with the headphones on and change my life and expand my thinking. Thanks for sharing ! God bless !!
Love this comment
Knowledge takes so many forms (as I think/hope JP would agree) that there’s no reason at all to couch your profession or experience with some comparison to ‘traditional’ or ‘brick & mortar’ college. Your comment strikes me as ironic but fitting, because despite being college educated, I can’t seem to stain a piece of wood with any level of mastery and would call on you as a brother and friend to help me in acquiring this sort of fundamental, volatile and in many ways more noble skill. The oral traditions and hand craft traditions are a miracle for having survived because they were less tangibly recorded than some others. In so many ways the book learning we seem to be so infatuated with is the easier of the paths, since it is LITERALLY (pun intended) written in books. Thank you for doing what you do, and Godspeed in your journeys alongside Jordan Peterson.
@@Nimbulus85 Thank you, that's a very genuine and lovely compliment. God bless
I also have a painting company and rarely listen to music at work because I’d rather fill my day with lectures and podcasts! Always starts interesting conversations with my customers as well
Learned from this man for 3 years now and he still has much more to offer.
Geez you knew of him 7 years ago? How are you doing now?
@@nwillson999 it's 8 years now 😂
Movie?
@@theintuitiveartist_t i wish there is an answer to your comment
Jordan Peterson has changed my life , I am trying to speak the truth each day and its bloody difficult but i know its made me a better person. I dont know how to Thank God for such an amazing and brilliant mind like JP. Plain , simple yet profound. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication!!!
I think Peterson's approach is more 'genius-ology' than 'psychology' - he seems to collate information from the main revolutionary geniuses of humanity and find the truth that runs through the heart of all of their musings/research and disseminate this truth with awesome authority.
His ability to interlock and correlate the work of others into a cohesive Map is his best talent.
@@MrLuckyMuffin that's also what einstein did, he put all the formlaes in physics into one theory
Not just the main ones he has hundreds of hours of discussions with patients and overall commonly known people, so he's not just dissecting that what he "gets from genious"
That's a keen observation, very true indeed. 👍
What movie is he showing in the class ?
HOW IS THIS TEN TIMES MORE FASCINATING THE SECOND TIME THROUGH? AWESOME TALK DOCTOR PETERSON!!!! THANKS FOR PUBLISHING THESE LECTURES!!!
Summary:
1 - Freud believed that substantial proportion of the symptoms he saw among his clients were of psychological origin despite of the fact that some of them were manifested physically
2 - Client whose parents taught her that adults were angels
3 - The malevolence look at people’s face and the traumatic experience after that
4 - What is repressed (unbearable memories, often sexual, desires); how do you defend yourself against things that you don’t want to be true? Repression
5 - Being psychophysiological aroused
6 - Displacement
7 - “if you practice something deceptive long enough I think it becomes habitual and unconscious. So i recommend you don't do that unless you want your head full of pathological monsters that you can't control.” (6:40)
8 - Rationalization
9 - “just because you could win an argument with someone doesn’t mean you are right” (7:30)
10 - Intellectualization
11 - Creative people and junguian dreams
12 - Projection
13 - “world class irritating people” (8:50)
14 - Freud’s fundamental theory was that unconscious ideas were at the core of many psychological conflicts
10:00
15 - “unless you can bring the meaning of the traumatic event up and articulate it...” (11:35)
16 - Gottman studies (couple therapy); genius “look at this bird” example
17 - People are very conflict avoidant; “if you don’t deal with those little things, then all the monsters that are packed up inside it will eventually eat you” (14:50)
18 - People make jokes about what is repressed
19 - Facial microexpressions
20 - Freud and dreams (book suggestion: The interpretation of dreams - Freud)
21 - Jung and dreams
20:00
22 - Interpretation of dreams in clinical practice
23 - “if you are stuck in a problem and you can’t solve it... you have to look where you don’t know” (21:30) and one of those places is the dream
24 - Remembering very emotional dreams
25 - Freud, dreams and regression
26 - Treating repetitive dreams
27 - Freud and the dream’s layers
28 - Different interpretations of dreams between Jung and Freud
30:00
- Libido
- The infant is a sexual being
- Orderliness and disgust sensitivity
- Oedipus complex; examples of pathologies in family dynamics (36:40)
- A lot of people go to therapy because they can’t get away from their families (38:20); “they are often caught in these ugly nets, often unbelievably ugly nets”
- Crumb documentary starts (39:00); it shows perfectly how the family plays into Freud’s pathology
Highly appreciating the summary and sequential arrangements so that during revision only those parts that are not clearer can be dealt with emphatically.
This was one of the best Peterson lectures I've ever seen! I'd recommend watching Crumb simultaneously, feels like a real classroom experience. Thank you so much Dr. Peterson, I can't thank you enough..
Crumb was an AWESOME movie
The director knew EXACTLY how to present R. Crumb
All of these lectures are supplementing my formal education and also helping me learn how to synthesize information from disparate disciplines fluidly. That's part of what makes JP so great,
he is a great synthesizer and knows how to get to the meaning of things.
Hows the education going?
I am constantly impressed and inspired by the copious amount of comprehensive information consistently flowing out of J. Peterson.
I can find myself so much in the persons Jordan talks about, my ex was so manic and manipulative that after 2 years his face still causes me to vomit and feel upset even without seeing him. It can haunt you for ages if you don't work on your self being. Jordan saved me with his lectures and I'm getting better as the days passes. But still just the thought of my ex makes my stomach upset to point that I can't continue with normal life. Thank you Jordan. You saved more lives that you can ever imagine.
happy to know :)
@@mbangroo thank you
@@urmyfuture1945
~ Sometimes you find yourself in the middle of nowhere and sometimes in the middle of nowhere you find your SELF ~
Oh , and remember that REFLECTION is the act of taking back our PROJECTION and such acts couldn't be of greater importantance in the modern age if they tried!
Farewell 👋
THESE ARE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL LECTURES I HAVE URNED FOR MY WHOLE LIFE ESPECIALLY SINCE MY TBI
From a purely academic perspective these lectures from Dr Peterson are truly outstanding, I’m retraining as a Psychotherapist and these have been immense!
The professor was on a tear today! Diving deep!
I love it when the Prof starts Doctor Strangeing it up when he goes deep
I'm glad to hear your comment in the beginning about the empathic system and how that episode didn't ring true to you. That has happened often and I question myself in those moments. Very reassuring to hear you express this.
ok that was too dark. literally.
EvansdiAl 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is great. I've always been looking for a comparison/contrast discussion of Freud and Jung.
Thank you. Listening to your lectures and conversations and talks about depression, demoralizing the youth, psychology, philosophy and everything else that echoes in between. Making the most sense out of the echoes in my own mind that only scream back at me has given me an inner peace that I’ve longed to feel. Who would have known that my echoes have been shared, broken down, and simply moved on to the next issue without the feeling that this guy isn’t talking to me like I don’t know something he doesn’t. Thank you for simply clarifying a few things. For rewording everything to make sense.people like you are ripples in the water. Wherever that water has the chance to stand still for a second or two to then have a sudden cause in change in motion to cause ripples. Ripple that grow and grow and grow. I wonder if this ripples could cause some sick waves to surf on. Or cause a grand wave to gain perspective. Thank you.
23:25 he had a genius Stumble
A year ago my mother was trying and forcing me to talk about something that she bloody well knew I didn't want to talk about, and that I still don't want to talk about because I hate myself for it and I kept telling her 'i don't want to talk about it leave me the hell alone' and she wouldn't and then I completely blew up and I started screaming at the top of my lungs cursing at her and telling her to shut up and go away. I even lunged at her to attack her but I stopped myself only after the first hit because I didn't want to go to jail for assault. Then she called me a psycho said I needed help began to insult me and then only after she made everything worse did she leave and she turned all the lights off and left me in the dark alone with my pain and my uncontrolable sobbing. I resent her for that. Even writing this brought me to tears. It makes me happy knowing that now her fiance left her because she is a total alcoholic.
Audio Garden man, that sounds fucked up. how are you doing now?
Something similar happened to me in public with my aunt. She kept pushing an issue and when I repeatedly said I don't want to talk about it, after about 10 mins of her pushing, I stood up and screamed at the top of my lungs and then walked away. I have never done something like that in my life and it was embarrassing after the fact, and I even ended up apologizing for creating the scene because I knew she'd never acknowledge an explanation of how she overstepped boundaries. My entire family has a propensity to bury any chance for emotional growth while also displaying extreme judgment... pretty much experts of projection.
Thank you yet again Dr. Peterson. We all have so much to learn while standing on your shoulders
This is simply beautiful! So many intelligent ideas interrelated, and the respect he has for the ones who brought them about, regardless of the truths or mistakes they made. How could they not make mistakes, when opening the doors for a new world ?
Wow. One of the absolute best JP videos
It’s pretty amazing how much younger and energetic Dr. Peterson looks nowadays. Going through these older lectures and comparing him to now it’s a pretty stark difference.
I guess that all-carnivore diet has been paying off pretty damn well.
Man, JP was way outta shape back then. The all-meat diet has him slim and trim now!❤
This man is a mobile university in every sense of the word. I was listen to him so much when I was London
What makes Peterson the stellar professor and synthesising theorist that he is, is his friction with the actual world, real patients, clinical practice. Moreover his embodied contribution within the psychotherapeutic session (I would say an existential approach to psychotherapy by genuinely empathise with your patient - a great burden in itself - which is quite evident even when he talks about them) gives him a leaps-ahead understanding of reality.
Kudos to you professor! I Think you've nailed the essence!
Jumpscare Peterson at 1:14:18
I was lucky to find the (2 hour) film on CZcams, uploaded about 2 months ago.
Link pls TY
link?
@@nismofreak33 , posted already, look in the comments.
The hyper preparation idea sounds like Reichs body armour idea - wich I really love.
This was such an informative lecture until the blank screen movie. If you ever read these comments, I’d enjoy knowing the name and see if I can find it. It could be helpful with my younger colleagues. Thank you for this post. I would hope the understanding of Unconscious motivation makes a comeback in therapy. It seems it’s still difficult for therapists to accept the fact that there is more to the mind then just consciousness.....
it's called "Crumb", came out in 94 if I recall correctly
The reimagining of dreams to change the ending reminds me very much of the game Psychonauts. Which is not surprising, because Tim Schafer took that idea from psychology classes.
You have 3 socially accepted introverts in a room together, does one of them become an extrovert based on the people they are surrounded by?
Usually one has to be more extroverted than the other two.
Or they just sit silently in the room for hours😂
0:57 Peterson's Freudian slip "my lab...my office one day" :D same same
Wow……. This is amazing.
It would be so helpful to know what the film segments are that you use in your lectures.
Okay, this is the most important lecture imo. This helps me tremendously in self reflection and self therapy. Thank you, so much Professor.
Also, that Crumb guy is the original weeabo... eeww.
These lectures are a wonderful gift. I can't help but notice an almost entire absence of the anti-Peterson trolls that pervade the comments on a lot of his other videos. Maybe it's because they don't have the attention span to watch more than a couple of minutes, or possibly because there's nothing here to purposefully misrepresent... maybe both.
Criterion should do a re-release of the "Crumb" documentary w/ a commentary track option by Dr. Peterson. There is a DVD version of "Basic Instinct" with one by Camille Paglia that is fabulous and Freudian.
I'm listening to this playlist while sharpening my knife, it's awesome
I can barely hear the movie- can someone link to it please? I'd like to watch for myself
Oh good to you
Sometimes I wish Dr Peterson was my father 😂😂
can you do a lecture on bipolar disorder and neglect?
He's not a DJ. You can't just request a lecture. His lectures have to be appropriate for the course that he is teaching.
@@chunkyMunky329 😂😂😂
Parapraxis is not just about speech but also actions and body language.
Can positive framing (practiced over a period of time) be treated as the repression ?
He has a much better hairline today. Seems legit.
I love jp. Even if his screen shots make him look like the Joker.
I wish I could get CEU's watching these rather than attending another check the box lecture.
Does someone know the tittle of the emntioned movie?
Crumb (1994) PS i guess its outdated reply but whatever )
35:57 - 38:51
40:39
If anyone can post a link to the Robert Crumb video, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Can anyone provide me with the link to the Gottman studies he references?
I keep thinking the SUBSCRIBE text written in red on the bottom right is actually the Scarface logo
Can anyone tell me what’s the clip in the middle of the lecture? 😊❤❤
The thumbnail is iconic
4:00 Dimensão Ocultão, stress e Cortisol
When you say 'can't get away from their families', do you mean they can't sway themselves to leave their families due to some emotional dependence, or that their nosey family members won't bloody leave the individual alone for a minute?
I think it most likely would be both.
Is the first excerpt of the lady and the angels not from memories dreams and reflection?
Does anyone know what film is JBP talking about?
Does someone know the video that Peterson played?
I think they should teach psychology in grade school. I grew up in a narcissistic family system. I would have never broken out of it unless I educated myself. I’m 35 now and feel
Just waking up.
Sorry for bothering. What's the movie in the video?
Crumb
I remember a festival field he said if he had a fit. Walk me around the field. Ok then he had one. A fit. Walk around the body. It's helps him. He come out of it. It's work that a measure.
6:13 "Repression isn't really much different than lying."
Does anyone know if JP says anything during the movie, or can I just skip to the end?
Yep he does speak
58:00
“The Devil whispered in my ear: ‘You’re not strong enough to withstand the storm.’ I whispered back: ‘I am the storm.” ...Thankyou for helping us all understand this Dr Peterson.
What is the movie he is talking about at 39:00 ?
Crumb
Can you do a video on Jews and their history/ cool things about their traditions you find valuable?
I’m going to be slightly open here, based on the dreams. What would sex dreams mean ? I don’t know fully who the other participant was but I think it was a past lover. As in the dream it went in for hours.
Can someone tell me the movie name please ? which Peterson showed. ( It would be really helpful for me ).
Crumb
Bahahaha 16:45 I’m using that one.
What is the movie that he shows?
Crumb
21:00 association cascade network analysis
Hi, where is the video he showed to the class?
it's a documentary of 120 min, Crumb, you can look it up elsewhere.
Subtitles please!
What is the movie he is showing?
Robert Crumb, biography. (It has been uploaded to CZcams about 2 months ago)
Huh, by watching your videos I've realised I would suit Jungian therapy.
1:08:56 her voice changes from outrage and disgust to pretend softness when she expresses her desired outcome of behavior. Just an observation.
Jordan looks to be doing much better in recent videos. Watch his mannerisms in this one, you'll see
wierze w to ze kiedyś doczekam ze będę mógł każdy z tych wykładów przeczytać po polsku gdyż niestety nie mam aż tak dobrej znajomości angielskiego by je dobrze zrozumieć
10:52 is this ethical?
Ethical? Why wouldn't it be?
….here we go….😒
that guy in that movie/documentary Jordan showed, was he European?..
11:25
which film is it?
crumb
43:55 "since 1920" is wrong, rather post-1935 with the spread of radio. The '20s is Crumb's decade for music.
Fantastic series of lectures 👏. My opinion is that he tried to emulate Nietche and pack information into his language. Too much. I suppose it is contextual, but literally 4 weeks of topic in a little over one hour. This series begs for a further/deeper examination by someone competent enough to simultaneously understand the entirety, and parse out the individual.
15:28 Akaash Singh?
It's like painting a rapist as considerate...one may say I bring up all the negatives, well if you decide to willingly leave out the negative, I would hope a human would point that out...
Victorian ers and sexual oppression,,,especially, in western Europe and Britain
It was incredible..,,kinda like European version of what's happening in Islamic world
Are there any certified therapists here to address Peterson's "intervention" around minute 10:00? I have never heard of a therapist performing some physiotherapuetic tricks on a patient. The whole setting sets me rather uncomfortable as a practitioner myself. Is this acceptable generally? And yes, I am not taking any context into consideration.
@@manubishe Yes, exposing the patient to that which he avoids. If you're afraid of elevators, we'll look at elevator photos, then perhaps we'll take an elevator together.
But, touching the patient's back? Despite she's in a rough physical shape, I don't think a psychotherapist should be performing some methods like that.
@@manubishe well then, where would you draw the line of such inappropriate touches? Is it patting someone on their shoulder, knee? Performing some physiotherapy? Maybe also sexual? What's the line?
Also, the way he described it. I asked her to lean over. Be careful there. Really careful.
There is so much more to it...
@@tofuman9526 dude, you know very well where the line is. And if you don’t know the differences between one touch and another and the context for them then perhaps you might want to discuss this with your own therapist.
@@user-ms1ue8bd8r I suspect that your knowledge regarding psychotherapy, and the therapeutic alliance, in particular, is very minimal, or perhaps even absent. How can you be sure you are absolutely aware of context completely, it's both arrogant and unprofessional to assume such a thing. No matter how deep you consider your understanding of patient's background, issues, context, etc. One of the first things you learn when you study psychotherapy, psychoanalysis, etc, is that you don't know anything, you just don't realize how much you don't know, and this is humbling. When a therapist takes such a course of action, he *potentially* violates the most fundamental essence upon which therapeutic alliance is based, trust.
Nonetheless, I admire the man and have learned so much from him and that helped a lot professionally and personally.
Some bad interpretations. If you like the music you imagine your dad lived his youth in (being really alive, assertive, good with girls, have all the your possibilities met, etc) that means you want to live but you are really in a loss, castrated, your life force sucked by your smothering mother.
And if with this music you feel the world is good and you can love it is because you are inmersed in this fantasy.
Anybody know what vid and link to the vid he’s showing on 48:00
A documentary on Robert Crumb and his family
I wish he would do a lecture on borderline. Every time he glosses over it just saying how terrible it is I lose a little more hope that ill ever figure my life out.
Don" t lose hope. He' s very smart, but nobody know everything. We don' t know what future bring. Maybe we understand more about, or somebody find better methods to deal with. Do what you can, accept what it is, and never lose hope!
.... 😂👌🤜👍👏👏👏.... this guy should be cloned for back-up...😂. ‘Effin brilliant.... oh wow%%!!!!!!......
I would love this guy to add a non European perspective into his work..
He references east asian and middle eastern theology quite a bit in his work
Why is Jordan sir crying?
You could see even this early that he was beginning to get very sick:( constantly coughing, unable to speak clearly etc
He had a bad reaction coming off benzos, he is just unfit here
@@PWizz91 why was he on benzos ?