Journalist On Discovering The Study Of The ‘Three Identical Strangers’ Triplets | Megyn Kelly TODAY
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- After the triplets from the “Three Identical Strangers” documentary were reunited, award-winning journalist Lawrence Wright of The New Yorker discovered a study that detailed the reasoning behind the boys’ separation. The boys discuss the psychological implications of their separation and their brother’s suicide. Wright joins Megyn Kelly TODAY to discuss the shocking revelation.
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Journalist On Discovering The Study Of The ‘Three Identical Strangers’ Triplets | Megyn Kelly TODAY
it's not nature or nurture its BOTH; this was a pointless and cruel thing to do
But how do you learn stuff about dna if you don't do studies like this???
That's an oversimplification of a highly complicated and interesting topic. You could answer so many questions with studies like this, even though, sadly, they are unethical and can have terrible consequences.
@@jasoneaton4520 Even if it means a suicide?
@@jasoneaton4520 But it's cruel. They were Jewish. Did that doctor forgot what dr Josef Mengle did?
@Vincent Cuttolo It was pointless because no studies were ever been published. And this was a Jewish organisation that did this to their own Jewish people. Did they forgot what doctor Josef Mengle did?
As a mother of triplets I see first hand how emotionally attached and dependent my kids are on one another. They cannot imagine losing each other and just the thought of it makes them cry and they adults now. These poor men were separated at 5 months of age. They already had a strong bond going back to conception! Of course they had psychological issues develop! You took away part of who each of them are.
I am also an identical twin, but my twin sister was stillborn. That bond you speak of is real, as I felt her presence at a very young age. I was 4 yrs old when I asked my mother about "a missing sibling." She sat me down and explained to me in terms I understood.
To this day, I miss my twin sister even though she never lived with me, but I believe she watches over me.
I am the grandmother of twin girls and these too darling little girls will play and talk to other people but after about 5 minutes they start freaking out. They begin to become nervous and start calling for the other one!!!! What those people did to those 3 sweet little boys was more than a sin!!!!! Those 3 boys were "wired" together.. as ONE... NOT three separate entities! This is a very sad story to me. I'm not saying that each one didn't have his own personality, I"m saying that their souls were connected in a profound way!!!
I'm an identical twin, me and my twin do pretty much everything together. My twins girlfriend is my best friend. And we lead very similar lives, I could not imagine what I'd be like if we were separated
Their story is one of the saddest I've ever heard. How anyone could separate them just for experimental purposes is heartless to say the least.
Those responsible will have to answer to God someday.
Lokomaika'i : The story of this triplets always makes me cry. I hope they heal and remain close and always connected. I love these guys. God bless!!!
Rip Eddie. This study is so sick especially the fact that none of the adopted parents knew. I saw this story a few months ago on a different video, and it is still so sickening!
Shannon-Nicole R. I know this is a stupid question, but if I had a gun and time machine and used them to go back in time to shoot Dr. Neubauer before he can even get to separating the triplets, would Eddie still be alive right now?
How did Eddie died? And when?
But how do you learn stuff about dna if you don't do studies like this???
Why is the people who did this are not on jail ?
Cause they're secret gubment
R.I.P. Eddie. What that doctor and the people at the adoption agency did was totally unethical, and devastating for all whose lives they messed around with. Shame on them.
I am so sorry that you both lost your brother Eddy. It breaks me heart. My mother was an identical twin & my father was a paternal twin. I couldn't imagine what yall had went through without each other for so long. Rest in peace Eddy!
Fraternal twin not Paternal.
You'll gonna have some triplets yourself XD
Tammy Jennings that’s a lot of twins! Are there any other twins in your family?
@@lokomaikai2182 Lmao technically as her father it's not fully wrong
Why can't they sue if this was unethical and probably illegal?
+garrett21 I just watched the full documentary. The triplets tried to sue but the adoption agency and others involved were so well connected that they couldn't find a law firm who would go up against them. The US government and some anonymous "foundation" financed this study. One of the researchers, who moved to EU in the 60s, was interviewed in the film. Photos of her with the Obamas, among other influential people, decorated her walls. This thing reaches high up and some people are above the law. That's not a conspiracy theory; it is fact. The records of this study are sealed until 2066.
Tellthetruth n/a you are crazy for trying to drag President Obama into the nonsense. I don't think Obama was aware of it. President would have condemned the people involved and distance himself from him if he knew about it. Maybe Trump was the one that Funded the research since he was older.
+cocobutter Calm down. I'm just reporting what the film showed. If you can't handle that I don't know what to tell you.
@@tellthetruthna8523 wow!! Thanks for the info
Tellthetruth n/a where did u watch the document
This reporter is too harsh for this type of interview
Perfectly said
Yeah she was so abrupt, trying to rush them
Right!!!
She only forgot to say omg omg omg
I respectfully disagree
Wow, I wasn’t expecting that about Eddie. That’s terribly sad 😞
For anyone curious, another one of the groups separated and studied found each other because of the release of this movie. Two women born in 1961 as well. Same agency. Never knew they had a twin.
@aguadelparaiso the number of test subjects is not known so I don't know where you are getting this information from
So they all suffered separation anxiety and depression that is so tragic...
RIP Eddie
So why not connect the 2 videos with links to each other? Someone else just happened to post the link to this video in the first video.
Yeah, if I hadn't scrolled through reading comments on the previous video, I wouldn't have been aware this one even existed.
so people just see the good part, not the evil that men do...
@@TorkG8- Worst thing is, I didn't even know there was a first part ...
🤣
WOW!!!
How awful that they were purposely separated for research!!! There is something so evil and unethical about this and my heart goes out to them on the loss of their brother, Eddie. 😢
It is not JUST about being separated. It is about purposefully placing mentally sick kids in environments that were bad for them...for research purposes...result? Suicide....The researches were well aware of this result when they placed yet more kids in the same scanarios. And of course, they never told the parents about the kid's problems or how to deal with it, because that would just negate the purpose of the study....That's far more evil that just separating them...
They were NOT mentally sick.
The boys developed separation anxiety. Children/Babies remember things from 3-6 months onwards and even if their memory doesn’t hold, their body remembers the separation and trauma.
They were also adopted so not “fitting in” with your family and feeling like you don’t belong is extremely detrimental to growth and healthy development during formative years.
Mental disorders developed DUE to the experiment, but because of a preexisting condition.
If we knew what has been done in the name of scientific study, we would be shocked.
I think most diseases and deformities in humans originated from so called scientific studies. Scientists use animals to modify viruses, bacteria, and altered DNA. Then secretly infect humans, sometimes whole cities. And study and record effects.
Just think about what happened during WWII here in Germany. Those poor people became test objects as for example which water temperature a human can stand before they die etc. There were also a lot of twin experiments.
Awe man...when she said the 3rd brother killed himself, it punched me in the gut. How awful for these guys. Dang. sigh...suicide after being a part of something so special like this. Mental health does not discriminate.
He developed a disorder due to the experiment and separation. He did not feel love and belonging all of his life. It’s not a ‘mental health’ issue, it was a DISORDER and could have been prevented and treated if America’s health care weren’t so deceptive and criminal.
I’m a twin and I can’t even imagine losing my other half. My heart breaks for you guys 💜 I’m glad you could find each other now.
So heartbreaking and insanely unfair to the babies these men were. They knew there were parts of them missing, even as babies. I'm happy they have each other now, but they should've had each other their whole lives. And maybe Eddy would still be here ❤️ My heart breaks for you guys.
But how do you learn stuff about dna if you don't do studies like this???
Yeah but it's for science, they can learn stuff about dna, and nature/nurture, that can serve humanity in many ways.
OR it's the government doing stuff to learn things for itself, to gain power over the people to manipulate them...
The toll it takes on the people involved is not worth it...
Everything is worth further knowledge
Jason Eaton it literally killed a man eddie killed himself bc of this study
There should be a way to open those records, especially to the two remaining triplets who were part of the study. Contracts and agreements to secrecy have been overturned before. At one time adoption records were completely sealed and now most are open. The triplets and others who were studied were never able to give their consent to the studies or the results, yet they are bound by the hold on the records. When a law or contract involves people who could not consent to it, it is legally considered invalid. All of the children in Neubauer’s study should have access to the records
This is beyond disgusting. The man who did this does not deserve to be called a doctor.
They were together for 6 months! Oh my goodness.
Mutlicade34 😥
So very sad that Eddie is gone! Being part of ‘triplets’ must have been wonderful!
"Move the story along" - great job Today Show for being the DOOSH OF THE DAY for DEC 7 2019
Its her job to make sure they get whole story out. Their whole show can only last so long so she didn't want it to get cut off if they ran out of time. She wanted to skip not so important details so that they can get the important ones out
Guess you're the doosh of the day. And probably any other day. What an unkind remark about someone just doing her job. Phod was totally right.
@@gardenjoy5223 this doesn't sound joyful GardenJ.
@@utetv7512 Love gardening. Despise nasty humans.
I was wondering who else that rubbed the wrong way. She was rude to say it like that, many other hosts would have been so much more polite about but.
I am so sorry for your deep loss of your brother. I lost a superb daughter to suicide 4 yrs ago. Deborah was only 19.. Amazing woman. see Deborah Gordon rest in Peace on yt
Maria bakajsza omg i am so sorry
I'm so sorry for you loss💔
Maria bakajsza 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️ sorry for your loss
Maria bakajsza So sorry for your loss. My daughter was 14. You don't get over it; you get through it. God be with you and comfort you.
Thank you, and rejoice for we will see our girls one day again.
RIP Eddie 😢 the movie always have me 💔😭😢 I have twins and I could never imagine them apart.
OMG - this story is absolutely heartbreaking and unforgivable!
Mengele in the USA. Absolutely appalling that this was done by a Jewish agency. if any group should understand the horror of this sort of study, surely it should be the Jewish people?
not if you've been lied to
Ridiculous comparison, almost sacrilegious
This is sickening truly bizarre, unethical, cruel, and all levels of evil.
RIP Eddy.
I love that big goofy smile they all had it seemed like they were so happy like genuinely happy
I don't think I would have used the word "beautiful" to describe a study in which any living organism, whether human or otherwise, is being manipulated for others' amusement. Humans certainly wear a variety of faces: from loving to downright insidious.
Wendy Monette I think what he meant was in theory it was a beautiful organization of people into groups. It was so well thought out that one could admire at the planning of this. However all things considered he most of all would agree that this was completely unethical since he wrote several pieces on the ethics of this study to try and get people riled up against the adoption agency to pressure them to release these boys records.
How rare they are.... naturally occurring identical triplets!!! I would love to hear the numbers on how often that even occurs. To take such special babies and rip them apart is shameful 🙁 makes me think of the saying, “just because you CAN do something, doesn’t mean you SHOULD”!
Also- how could the doctors and scientists live with themselves??? How could they go home and tuck their own children to bed knowing what they were doing to those babies?
Around 4,300 sets of triplets+ are born in the U.S. per year, compared to 3.9 million births in general: a bit more than 0.1% (1 in 1000) per year: www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_01.pdf
triplets+ means: triplets or a higher number of multiple births; to count only the number of identicals ... would make X in the 1-in-X number greater for sure
Lori Beth Tauscher Some say they were actually 4 babies 1 died at birth
She said 'naturally' occurring births. A lot of multiple births these days have been the result of the parents using fertility drugs.
+Esther StrategicAdvisor yes they were QUADRUPLETS
These three were actually part of a set of identical quadruplets, but one died shortly after birth.
Did it ever dawn on anyone the reason all 3 triplets had mental health issues in their adolescence was BECAUSE they were separated at 5 months?????? Maybe they all missed one another because they had such a strong mental/emotional bond that was wrongly stolen from them????
I know, right! Duh. These scientists are so lacking in any spiritual or moral or human istic thread of understanding, they failed to account for that. Being ripped from their twin brothers caused each one depression, separation anxiety, confusion and trauma.
Exactly. They more than likely even slept in the same crib when the were infants. Separation anxiety. They probably had emotional and developmental issues as babies. Those anxieties would come out in different ways as teenagers or adults. PTSD
Of course.
I'm still going to rent the documentary after watching three clips this is too good
Megan's hosting skills are still at negative 0. Why does she come across as angry and defensive all the time? Goodness. Please don't give her another hosting job.
@Vincent Cuttolo I'mhi my
No no clue my
This is a story which incites anger, resentment and endless questions. I think her emotion is perfect for this since the two remaining brothers are probably beaten down by elusive and deceptive actions. Showing calmness doesn't incite fear and cooperation with the guilty parties. Only anger and determination will lead to the complete truth. These people need their arms twisted so they submit and give up all they know about this despicable study.
Megan McCain interviews like her also😒
Agree. She is too harsh and talks at the guests, not with the guests.
Glad they all found each other, so sad about Eddie, rest in peace. Shame on the doctor and the department that separated the boys and other twins / triples that this happened to. Karma is gonna kept up to everyone involved in this horrible test on separating children, so sad and evil.
As an identical twin, I can’t imagine my life without my sister. I dread the day we will be separated. May God have mercy on that doctor’s soul.
I’m going into psychology and I can’t fathom why anyone who studies how the brain works would allow this to happen. He knew what he was doing and the implications of it.
You have to understand that what we know now...and what we knew then were totally different. In 1961 frontal lobotomy's were done, women were institutionalized for "nervous condition", the United States government didn't believe people of color were fully human. To view a society, a belief, or even a practice-you have to view it through the lens of the time period. This is one of many studies that were unethical by today's standards.
@@ginapassero No no no excuse. They knew exactly what they were doing was wrong and evil. Hateful.
Such handsome young men they were! It should never have happened. I'm so sorry you lost your brother. Btw does this tv host have any empathy? Breaking in with a harsh voice to 'move the story forward'.
She's a host it's her responsibility to move things in the interests of tome to cover the most important content
I'm very happy that they found each other.
Well done, Megan. Must see the documentary.
So interesting and revealing. Well done. 👏👏
Beautiful yet heartbreaking , prayers RIP Eddie 🙏🏻
My goodness, this is horrific and sad. I'm an adoptee, taken from birth 1970 and placed in foster care until adopted out at age 3. My adoption papers read my bio Mother had a set of twin boys that died at birth prior to giving birth to me. Makes me wonder if they really didn't die at birth. 🤔😕
Twins are often born premature and were more likely to die in 1970 then now due to medical advances. Saddly it's likely they did die at birth. I have a friend who's twins born at 22 weeks died in their dad's arms just 4 yrs ago.
@@robb2055 sorry for your friends loss.
Adoptee here, 1962 birth. In the 70's, my Dr. sent for non-identifying health info-NY state gave my physician false information about parents' ages. If they would lie about that, it is possible the state would lie about the twin boys. If you can get enough info to search for birth/death certificates, I would do so, just for your peace of mind. Also, I would recommend searching G's adoption registry. Found my biological family through them.
This truly broke my heart.
I’m so sorry for his passing & how he did it. 😢
It would've been so heartbreaking for them to know that they're a subject of a very unethical study
How sad... I am heartbroken for them.. Thankfully they have each other still..
Well done interview but such a sad story to have these boys split up as babies and kept apart for so many years. RIP Eddie.
incredible story ❤️
I rented the film in CZcams.. It is a sad story and fascinating at the same time.
Megyn is a terrible interviewer. Let’s move it along she says, wow.
Your darn right she is insensitive and crude. She smiled at the part before she talked about eddys suicide.
Feeding lines to them...
I was thinking the same
But she sure is plenty preetty....
Yeah, kind of embarrassing for the guys being interviewed, but I know that just off-camera she has a Producer flashing her the hand-across-the-throat signal - CUT, CUT, CUT! Everything is timed to the second and if it's time for a commercial, the commercial tape will start playing while everyone continues talking if the host isn't keeping control of the interview. She should have been doing more to guide the interview in the direction she needed it to go rather than to let things get out of control and then rather rudely just shut them up!
Aww if three were together, could have been a different story perhaps. Really sad story. God bless these brothers in their journey. May Eddy rest in purest Light.
The three brothers were born to a single mother in 1961. (They were actually quadruplets; the fourth brother died at birth.) At the direction of a Jewish adoption agency and psychiatrists Viola W. Bernard and Peter B. Neubauer, the three infants were intentionally placed with families of different economic levels - one blue-collar, one middle-class, and one upper-class - who had each adopted a baby girl from the same agency two years earlier. The brothers were raised by their respective adoptive families as David Kellman, Eddy Galland, and Bobby Shafran.They discovered one another by chance in 1980 and became very close, but all three struggled with depression throughout their lives, which ultimately led to Galland's suicide in 1995
It is shameful what these Jewish people did to these brothers . I thought that they would have leant lessons from the the past . RIP Eddy .
How do you know they were quadruplets? Given this is true, could it maybe have been an experiment from the beginning? Did the doctors "produce" quadruplets, made the young woman carry them and give birth to them all for the purpose of a Nazi-like so called study? How evil is the whole thing? I am very suspicious, I don't think such things ended with the Nazis. There will always be horrible people, psychos no matter doctors or whatever they call themselves.
@@nureinherz Go to Wikipedia and read the story where!!! And Put this in Three Identical Strangers
@@marikacrockett okay, and thanks for answering
@Vincent Cuttolo so you say. And it's not crazy, it's a possibility. Don't be naive, they did a lot of similar things in the 3rd Reich in Germany, and given they had the knowledge of science today, they would have jumped to such a thing without any hesitation
That's absolutely horrific what they did to these children well men ,I'm thankful they had wonderful adoptive parents but deeply saddened they grew up without one another I hope an pray they will get those records and learn their trueth my heart goes out to them for the loss of their brother.God Bless you all.And thank you for sharing your story.
Really interesting and the study is facinating
My deepest sympathies go out to these amazing brothers. And my I say that I am so glad that this truly evil study still didn't keep THESE BROTHERS APART!!! God bless each of you and your families!!! 💓💖🕊️
After viewing this about the triplets, and hearing similar stories throughout my lifetime, it now makes you wonder if YOU could be a “secret” twin when someone says “ you look just like _____”. To which I say “ just pray for them!”
My mother was SO happy that none of the 4 of us kids WAS a duplicate!
Hmmm... Where have we heard about twin studies before?
Nazi's twin experiments is what came to my mind! Sick and unacceptable.
Yes. The weird thing is that it is with Jewish twins/triplets AGAIN.
Joan Elizabeth Smith I dont understand Peter Neubauer, the researcher involved with this study. He is Jewish and his family fled his home country to escape the Nazis. How could he think this was ok?
That one is completely beyond me. My guess is that he was completely devoid of empathy and very arrogant. That is what his behavior indicates to me.
Joan Elizabeth Smith , I agree. In the documentary the two research assistants also were Jewish. But they behaved so cold hearted as though they had no emotional connection or empathy to these multiple kids -as though the kids weren’t people but a study project. I don’t understand how they were so emotionally disconnected while they were studying emotional disconnection !
Amazing, surrealistic story.
Rest In Peace Eddy. Love to the families
Wow... I'm sure there would have been several families that would have loved to raise these boys together. It's awful these men lost their brother. I'm happy the 2 remaining brothers are still in touch.
Imagine the amount of 'research' that has been made but untold
All my adult life people always think I'm someone else or they'll ask if I'm related to so and so. This video is making me wonder.
Thank God they found each other. So sad about Eddy. Had to be a result of the horrible study. It should never have been allowed. The price was Eddy’s life. At least they finally met & there are still two brothers together with their families
Wow I would of loved the twins to speak A LOT more in that interview....
Am I the only one that thinks this smells like CIA?
Oh the government is definitely involved. Hence not releasing info til 2066 when bo one involved is alive to sue for the injustice that was done at their expense.
No your not the only one. It is super obvious to amy smart person.
No, you are just one of millions of people that have no education in psychology.
This had such a depressing end. Watched the film. Really sad, I’m a twin and could not bare to be without my twin. This was heartbreaking, and the fact that the other brother killed hinself, so sad
There are many books about studies of many thousands of separated twins. Find them at Amazon. For triplets, I expect likewise.
Incredible story
Amazing!
I am so fascinated by this story … I’ve probably seen the film five times or more ❤
I saw this documentary when it was released. Just watching this again Dec 2023 and I’m crying when they announced that their brother took his own life
Why she smiling when they said the brother killed his self
Her sadistic personality showed through.
She's strange. She told one of the brothers to move along with the story, at the beginning of this video
She is a very bad tv host ... oh my god.. did she get any degree in journalism...
zinaa i know right ! She is very rude!!!!
zinaa I think she’s a lawyer
@@ManalMet that explain alot... still a very bad TV host...
Horrible
That’s why she left the show lol, no one liked her personality
This is so sad to have happened to them. Sick doctor and people who assisted in this
Can somebody explain what happened to the last brother eddy, also she is very
Insensitive
Yes she is
This proves that the saying "what you don't know won't hurt you is not true.
What you do not know hurts more. Secrets don't stay secrets forever. Many families are deeply hurt by secrets which was supposed to "protect" them..
Imagine the effects it has on ALL KIDS separated from family and raised with strangers thru the system.
Unacceptable .... Sue the pants off those organizations ....
I read about them in Readers Digest years ago. It was before they learned they were all part of an experiment. So tragic and bittersweet. The loss of Eddie is a pain that will never go away. I’ve heard of these special bonds twins and triplets have. Almost psychic phenomenon. Prayer to those brothers🙏🙏
when did they (and the world) learn they were part of an experiment?
@@andythooidIn the early 90s
👍☘️🇮🇪 god bless the three triplets I just watched the identical strangers . and my heart my goes out too them and I hope one day they will get justice for what they done on them as triplets.
I just read they were quadruplets, the 4th identical boy reportedly died at birth.
But did he
I wish I was a twin.
Sorry for the loss of the 3rd brother
Beautiful study?
I know right?
"Experience is the river that we travel down". I love that. I have watched that documentary about 5 times. It is so intriguing and so sad. Eddie should have stayed alive to enjoy this part of the story.
His child trauma was too much to overcome. It is very unfortunate and the brothers and his family (wife and child) should have sued the agency and all medical staff involved.
May the Lord bless you both, cause His face to shine upon you and grant you His shalom
wright is awesome, his book on sci tology was brilliant.
God bless you two, rip Eddie..so sorry for the jerk of a dr. Who did this to yous.
Praying yous can be together til dealth do u part..Amszing that u two still have each other..praying for you both and ur loss.
This could be more than local. National or international perhaps.
Best Doc you will ever see
RIP Eddie. I remember, when this story broke. Everyone in my area was talking about it. These guys are just a couple of yrs. younger than me. I'm now, just learning they were a part of an experiment. That Eddie's past.
Rip eddie🙏🏾♥️😔
They cannot change the past. But I do think that still with holding the information now is totally unacceptable. These people are adults they have a right to know what information is being held about them.
Move the story along… just wow!!!
What a complicated situation
WOW 😲
Sorry guys so sad god bless his soul!
Add psychiatrists to the list of "professionals" capable of pure evil.
jcq1961 you should see the story of boy raised as a girl. It's soo sickening what scientists do 😥😥
Capable?
tomjan you really think poor jews barely able to afford their religious required private school education and weekend thanksgivings have the ability to do more than barley make enough to support their ever growing families due to not being allowed to use birth control or their childs tuition being their birth control. Im not excusing that specific organization. But the logical mind based in reality cant fabricate an idea as such about a few poor families. Its like thinking all muslims are weathy due to a few wealthy Imams. Its absurd.
That's basically what the profession is... and nothing more.
These men have the right to know what was done to their lives.