Now that I think about it How TF heis arguing about higher dimensionality when he doesn't know what is Set theory 😭😭😭🤣🙏🏻nor does he have a Clue on what is a higher infinity
Dude, these opm fans always exaggerate the power of their favorite fictional universes and try to make the characters seem dozens of times stronger than they really are, they tend to exaggerate the power of their characters
Also "ignoring distance energy and size" doesnt equal Surpassing it Same thing with Minatos flying ryjin being beyond the concepts of space and distance it really doesnt mean shit unless fully explained
@@RedEditz7OK the Higher dimension in Context Context still needs Context tho Ok I'll say 4D how TF does EV scale to it this Kid is something else also attacking from a Higher dimension without again Context is Nominal Fallacy 🤣🤣🤣🙏🏻
@@Troll2000zx nah I'm only fan of Boros 😂 I like OPM Manga but it doesn't mean I'm it's fan cuz a fan is basically someone who like it so much that he takes stuff literally which I don't
Maybe Saitama fans should become goku fans as well, because they can't get goku out of their heads🤦🏻♂️ Sup bruh, haven't commented on this channel in over a year🗿
Side characters in OP be folding xeno. There's nothing to discuss Gokutards just miss the old dragon ball where Goku was a gag and super strong cuz right now everyone in DB gets folded by Garou
@@DionAnims it's not about belief it's just a fact. You can choose to face that reality or you can remain delusional but the facts will still not change
This guy tries to only use the words rather than In the context they are used "infinitely Bubbling forth" no My g If its infinitely COMING FORTH its not Infinite yet its just Endlessly Coming forth Because ITS BASED ON ACTIONS AND POSSIBILITIES!!!! POSSIBILITIES THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET THATS WHY THEY ARE BUBBLING FORTH NOT JUST THERE GOD HE SOUNDS LIKE OMARI AND HE SAYS THE SAME SHIT OMARI DOES AND THATS PISSING ME OFF
I allow the multiversal scale, just so that I can remind them that multiversal scales far below Goku still lol 😂😂 It's crazy how people say DB fans can't read, but I feel that's more true for OPM fans
@@silentlyanonymous306Toriyama has written the daizenshuu and literally affirmed it’s a source material that’s like saying the opm manga is an unreliable source…. You’re just comitting a genetic fallacy tbh
Bro, sometimes I wonder if one day saitama does...let's say he gets strong to the point where he can destroy a multiverse or a hyperverse or more with easy do you think people will simply accept that?????
@@JawBreaker4756 yes they will bcz he will have feats,statement and context and stuff we will accept it lol but as of now OPM fans are overrating him over the most stupid words by taking words LITERALLY
@@JawBreaker4756 Why do you think people have a hard time accepting Goku's outer scale? People get the character scale from the internet, so they will believe whatever the internet says. If the internet said that Goku is only multi, they would believe it.
What the hell was this guy even trying to "debunk", bro infinitely literally doesn't mean infinite especially in this context here. Bubbles are forming infinitely constantly and endlessly. Infinitely =/= infinite by definition too. NOt only that you contradicted yourself by showing us a definition wich agrees that infinitely only means expanding or growing endlessly or infinitely its an infinite or endless process however it is not and never infinite itself.
common sense? maybe u failed🤷♂️ goku has never shown multiversal feats, close to Universal with no feats at all would scale him to low universe lvl🤷♂️
@@silentlyanonymous306 congratulations you have just proven my point, goku has presented universal feats backed with with statements from the guidebooks, anime and manga since the namek saga. But ofc its too hard for you to understand
@@therandomuser5126it would be hard for me grasp the right scaling because there are filler in anime that was not even belong to manga, the original source material of the show. guidebook that wasn't written by toriyama, yeahh keep coping
@@player-hz8echow the debate would be on Stage where only they will debate the rest will be muted basically audience of the debate lmfao on top of that we never said that debate will happen in Drip's server
@@RedEditz7 do u have assurance that will happen?no unless u have proof of drip sauce having a proper debate with someone with out some of his fan boys chastising the other party then no I don't trust ur words.
He fact he didn't fully watch the vid and "try to debunk drip" already shows he knew he couldn't debunk wat was being put in his face so he quit, That's 1 slimy bastard 😂
@@RedEditz7 yo imma make a vis about this I a few hours and I wanna ask permission to reference your video because it seemed like you did a good job debunking this.
I will be surprised if he thinks infinite is boundless or tier 0 when infinite is only High universal or tier High 3-A there multiple types of infinity. ♾
@@RedEditz7 You did not rebunk anything ! Ok lets make this simple . ( its ganna be long , sorry ) 1) Infinitly occurring for every possibility . The explenation being given is MWI ( many worlds interpretation ) And judging by how these worlds continue existing without the wave funcion colaps , this means that OPM is using Everets explenation of MWI . ( with quantum decoherence) As its not based on just observation or measurment , meaning that everything in the universe that can have multiple possibile outcomes , will have multiple possibile outcomes . Resulting in infinite possibilities ! Furthermore he completely egnored the " outside causality " ( he does not know basic causality transcendence types ) statement . It means this space is outside linear causality / linear time . Meaning that the parallel world being created , are from all of time ( past future and present ) . So even if we spin this on his favor and say that they are produces endlessly in relation to time and not infinite in amount it would still be an infinite amount , based on this context . 2) Falshy flash can sense the attack , but not dodge it . He was never the target especially considering that EV goal is not to kill him but to turn him in to a God Avatar . 3) Although visually the attack looks like it has no higher dimensional properties , Drip is forgetting the statement that EV had to fold dimensions , to pinpoint his attack and control its properties . The attack can still cover any distance ( it egnores distance and size ) wich means its higher dimensional in size ( transcending any lower dimensional distance and size ) . Meaning the attack can cover and destroy an infinite 3d object , if required to . 4) Subspace and hyperspace are interchangable terms ! Depending on specifics bothe can be higher dimensional . He is right to say that hyperspace is allways talking about higher dimensions while subspace can still be 3D ( allthough in a lot of depictions , that is not the case ) . The properties shown , and the statements said by blast ( calling it , a higher dimension ) are more than enough for it to qualify as Hyperspace . 5) EV was clearly teleporting back in to the universe , and reaching out for flashy flash . Also did you just say that egnoring size and distance is not higher dimensional ??! My guy , if you egnore size and distance as a whole ( not just in a 3d level ) you would scale to Outer , as it would mean thatt you can affect any object , no matter what its size = no matter its dimensionality . 😂 If blast did not say " to what extent it egnores them it depends on the " , you would see valid OPM outer arguments . But blasts explenation just confirmes that it is talking in a 3d sense ,( meaning a higher dimensional attack ) , and that it could be even higher in the future ( egnoring 4d space , 5d space etc ) . It egnoring size distance and energy is 100% of a higher dimensional attack . This is obvious downplay by drip !
The higher dimention stuff kinda contradicts itself. Empty void was in a higher dimention wo how did flashy flash know his dimentionslash was comming. A being in a higher dimention would be Infinitely times faster than those in a lower dimention and yet a person bound in 3d was able to percieve it and even warn sonic about the slash before it was used. Ast knocked him out of this higher dimention. He isnt higher dimentional so how did he do it. It was also in one hit meaning it wasnt hard to do. Having access to a higher dimention doesnt mean you scale to that dimention. Hyperspaces existing doesnt mean he scales to the hyperspace. He used special jutsu meaning its hax based not ap based so saying empty void doesnt scale to it would be highballing and wank. Assuming those bubbles are infinite is false. Thats never proven once. You cant take everything at face value and ignore context
well actually it would be More Than Infinitely faster aka Inaccessible amounts of times faster + Yeah and being Called higher dimensional scales to Freaking nowhere as it's a Nominal + Association Fallacy 😭🙏🏻
@@Gking121 anyway I was going to tell you that @whygiveup11 guy is the one I'm DEBUNKING in the video and apparently he blocked me or something bcz I can't reply to him whenever I try a msg pops up saying "an error occurred' lol 😂
You're so dumb man blast is so far the only person who can actually interact with empty being that he is a higher dimensional being and if you actually read the context as to why flashy could sense the attack was because he was more susceptible to gods mind attack sonic on the other hand was completely unaffected being that he had stronger mental fortitude. Matter of fact flashy being able to sense it could be alluding to the fact that he in a sense wanted to reach out to the hand and god has transferred his power before already without direct contact your statements prove nothing
The manga is not specifically implying a high multiversal scale, it aound kinda like timelines and parallel universes, which would make it low multi sense the dimensions are consistent within the same universe. Which could make him universal still sense the new villian is only on a dimensional scale.
@@Johnbattlemakerparallel universe means another universe another version of yourself and parallel universe can't mean the same universe it literally makes no sense
@@user-px7om3gz5k no, composite dimensions are separate from another universe, parallels/alternate are strings to the same universe and are not separate , that makes it a dimension not another universe, learn your facts
I have goku at 6D still negs OPM which caps 4D god in regards to the blast statement would mean 4D 5D going by the new void feat which is actually 4D whygiveup11 really doesn't understand logic on cosmos Sad i know
Here how i possibly scale Goku to 6d the Dragon ball universe have multiple dimensions that has it own space time which make it low multiversal and there are 12 universe that scales to 5d because the universe are separate in a bigger space than low multiversal/4D and timelines contains the 12 universe history which make it 6d and infinite zamasu become that timelines and jiren scales above zamasu and Goku can beat jiren which make Goku 6 dimensional. 😉
NGL I actually agree I didn't have anything to record my own Voice so I had to rely on Text 😭😭 But once I get something to record my voice I'll be sure to use it
@@RedEditz7Actually I'm not complaining about the quality at all bro, I mean the dude trying to debunk drip is pure brain rot, anyways respect for defending drip.
@@OyinkansolaAgboola that is an impossible question.... Should we do a live stream on this guy to find out? I think we should. I'd say for now Omari is still Significantly stupider...
Why can't dbz fans accept that murata and one don't care about them and just trying to make saitama stronger than terra 2 even murata said it himself he doesn't care about dbz fans
The issue isn't murata its the opm fanboys who wank their verse and ignore context. We don't hate murata I'm a opm fan myself. That being said db fans also wank their verse as well. I Try to be neutral so I don't belive in db being outerversal
1. Unironically Canon Saitama is already stronger then Terra 2 Saitama 2. bro we have absolutely NO hate for the verse or creator what we hate that these OPM fans takes stuff out of context and stuff 😭i literally am hyped for by Boy Saitama's Multiversal scaling but this isn't it yet 😭
I'm still skeptical about all of this, we don't know yet fully the extend of Empty Void's powers and since I've read a few panels of these feats, I'm still not sure yet. But regarding the infinite thing....um, do OPM fans know about dimensional tiering? There are things infinitely stronger than infinite and likewise, infinitely stronger than an infinite that's stronger than infinite and vice versa. It gets complicated but yeah, that's the gist of dimensional tiering
Most of this argument stems from two things: 1: Dragonball fans dont understand “dimensions” because what they don’t understand is that dimensions in dragonball are like they are in Minecraft (basically different worlds). While in OPM its like how it is IRL 2: Yes, as of the latest manga chapters saitama has infinite potential. Will he 1shot goku the first punch? No. But thats not how his power works. Why are DB fans so mad at this? Even some DB characters can beat goku.
Maincraft cosmology does have 3 separate spacetime over world, nether, and End dimensions which is low multiversal or tier 2-C which confirms my point where i scale dragon Ball anyways.
so OPM logic of how dimension and dimensionality works is correct but now HOW ACTUALLY THE DIMENTIONALITY WORKS isn't? 1. we understand that heck even MHA and JJK fans understand how it works 💀🙏 and that's just hasty generlization 2. THAT WHAT WE ARE SAYING 💀💀 INFINITE POTENTIAL DOESN'T GIVE YOU HIGHER DIMENSIONAL SACLING YOU RET@ARDS GODDAMN LIKE WTF DO YA'LL SMOKE????
@@RedEditz7 bro empty void literally ignored space and time.we aren't saying it's 5d.my point is that the verse is beginning to enter multiversal levels of Cosmology.
One more who is trying make opm weak can't believe the chapter just air and debunker started to debunk are u not tired of this if u don't like opm then plz don't make fun of that i know u get views for that but isn't it too much now let them cook bro who r u to make fun of the manga and he is holding back wait they said that they will bring more fight scene so, wait for that
@@GideonvanjamoYanthan-vl8sb Well you should tell that to the people that are already claiming saitama and void to be multiversal. We believe that OPM will soon enter that realm of power it is just how the OPM fans start overhyping every small thing that happens.
@@GideonvanjamoYanthan-vl8sb The OPM fans are the ones who start running their mouth first. You cannot tell me they did not overhype it along with attacking other fandoms especially the Dragonball fans.
@@OyinkansolaAgboola Goku fans always come in the comment whenever someone explain about power scaling of opm they always said the same that he can't beat goku which sometime annoyed me
lmao , Wait for The Next Chapter lol, This Is Just The Beginning.... Parallel worlds branch out with each possibility infinitely bubbling forth like foam suggests a concept related to the multiverse theory or the idea that there are countless alternate realities or universes. Here’s a breakdown: 1. Parallel Worlds: Refers to multiple universes or realities existing alongside our own. 2. Branch Out: Implies that these realities diverge or split from each other based on different choices, events, or possibilities. 3. Each Possibility Infinitely Bubbling Forth: Suggests that for every decision or event, there is a corresponding new universe or reality being created. This proliferation continues indefinitely. 4. Like Foam: Compares the process to the bubbling and expanding nature of foam, where each bubble represents a separate reality. In essence, the phrase paints a picture of a vast, complex multiverse where every conceivable outcome and possibility exists, continually expanding and branching out into new realities.
You did not rebunk anything ! Ok lets make this simple . ( its ganna be long , sorry ) 1) Infinitly occurring for every possibility . The explenation being given is MWI ( many worlds interpretation ) And judging by how these worlds continue existing without the wave funcion colaps , this means that OPM is using Everets explenation of MWI . ( with quantum decoherence) As its not based on just observation or measurment , meaning that everything in the universe that can have multiple possibile outcomes , will have multiple possibile outcomes . Resulting in infinite possibilities ! Furthermore he completely egnored the " outside causality " ( he does not know basic causality transcendence types ) statement . It means this space is outside linear causality / linear time . Meaning that the parallel world being created , are from all of time ( past future and present ) . So even if we spin this on his favor and say that they are produces endlessly in relation to time and not infinite in amount it would still be an infinite amount , based on this context . 2) Falshy flash can sense the attack , but not dodge it . He was never the target especially considering that EV goal is not to kill him but to turn him in to a God Avatar . 3) Although visually the attack looks like it has no higher dimensional properties , Drip is forgetting the statement that EV had to fold dimensions , to pinpoint his attack and control its properties . The attack can still cover any distance ( it egnores distance and size ) wich means its higher dimensional in size ( transcending any lower dimensional distance and size ) . Meaning the attack can cover and destroy an infinite 3d object , if required to . 4) Subspace and hyperspace are interchangable terms ! Depending on specifics bothe can be higher dimensional . He is right to say that hyperspace is allways talking about higher dimensions while subspace can still be 3D ( allthough in a lot of depictions , that is not the case ) . The properties shown , and the statements said by blast ( calling it , a higher dimension ) are more than enough for it to qualify as Hyperspace . 5) EV was clearly teleporting back in to the universe , and reaching out for flashy flash . Also did you just say that egnoring size and distance is not higher dimensional ??! My guy , if you egnore size and distance as a whole ( not just in a 3d level ) you would scale to Outer , as it would mean thatt you can affect any object , no matter what its size = no matter its dimensionality . 😂 If blast did not say " to what extent it egnores them it depends on the " , you would see valid OPM outer arguments . But blasts explenation just confirmes that it is talking in a 3d sense ,( meaning a higher dimensional attack ) , and that it could be even higher in the future ( egnoring 4d space , 5d space etc ) . It egnoring size distance and energy is 100% of a higher dimensional attack . This is obvious downplay by drip !
@@shanksyonko411 Alt acc !😂 He ( whygiveup11) has banned my original acc , for downplaying OPM . ( supposetly ) I am hated by bothe OPM fans , and DB fans .
@@JJade-pg6qx I think i said that Goku could beat saitama by instaint transmitioning him in outer space , than teleporting back , leaving him there . With no portal to help him , he will die from starvation , or some other causes , even if he does not need to breath . He said that saitama does not care he would prob punch/ jump/fart his way back , or addapt to outer space . Than he endet the comment by saying "get out of my comment section " and i was banned !😅
@@JJade-pg6qx To be fare , he does seem to be able to adapt . He could not breath in space , than when he gets serious , he now can . He needs to look at his reflection , tries 3 times , actually does it . To be fare it seems like he can grow and adapt to anything as long as he has a desire to . It would make sense , since he is a being with no limiter . But this is not very factual , and just speculation , based on very little !
Can you please debunk goku i hate fans saying hes infinite but his durability isnt even infinite i think arale is enough or future trunks from the future timeline 13 years old is enough for goku strongest form because of the fking stupid plot always makes him damage and almost lose Its like in the first fight he would lose but when he said "Plot armor" he almost died then opponent weapon started attack the weapon holder that so stupid dude plot armor always saves goku and fans always says its infinite but i always believe Goku black if he wished for unerasable and immortality at the same time hes the true strongest Goku durability just sucks and strength
Huh 🤨🤨🤨 what the hell are you yapping like know I’m actually genuinely confused 🫤 like what are even talking about man debunk what??? His durability depends on ki barrier always being up or if he’s low on energy or if his guard is down if you’re talking about the stupid rock shit idiots keep bringing up that the was gag scene or him being shot by a laser 1 his guard was down and his energy was lowered also it clearly wasn’t a normal lazer and last who said his durability is infinite? Arale is relevant to goku in blue but wouldn’t say she’s stronger than him future trunks 13 years is not doing anything super goku man he is way to weak it’s not even a comparison if goku black saga trunks could even beat base form black then what is 13 year old trunks going to do ?? 😂😂😂
@@SamuraiYajirobe I do agree that Goku is somehow overrated. Especially saying Goku solos fiction. I'm pretty sure that the way Goku is scaled by CZcamsrs is not what the writer is truly aiming for.
@@SamuraiYajirobe DBZ had lasted for a long time now and has so many fans that it's near to impossible to convince them all that Some character from another show or anime beats Goku.
Uhhh I think you’re the one copeing because that’s clearly not the case as proven in both drip vid and this video 😂 or just rage baiting which love to see it by the way 😊lololol
@RedEditz7 empty void stands above causality of the universe as per what's said and what's clearly shown he can see an infinite amount of parallel worlds and interact with them from the outside If you don't know what being above causality of the universe means, it means he's above the concept of time, distance, speed, reality, space, size, do I need to continue? He can not only go to any parallel timeline which spans infinitely but also to any specific timeline as shown when he went directly to the reverse causality punch to suck the leaking god power from garou Blast clearly states in one of the chapters that God's power is of a higher dimension, these are just avatars only using a fraction of gods power so just imagine how powerful God really is if just a fraction of his power can grant this level of power To dumb it down for you even more the only character in dbs that even comes close to any of this is Zeno cause he stands above all the universes and literally sits outside of them, goku is nowhere near this level of power he's still capped at 4th dimensional Goku can't sit outside of his own universe and effect any part of it from the outside, he can't even breathe in space, he can't travel to the other parallel universes without being taken there by an angel, he can't go to beerus planet without whis, he's still bounded by time, space, speed, etc meaning he's not 5D, empty void is so empty void literally 1 taps with hyperspace dimensional slash
Nope I'm not wasting my time watching anybody's video defending the nonsense that i had to watch. The fact that your sitting here defending somebody who doesn't even hide their cherry picking and pulls mental gymnastics shows that you're not genuine. His video stays debunked cope.
Yet you wasted your time on typing all that shit 💀 and what nonsense? I'm defending his debunk bcz it's the truth talking about cherry pick your ENTIRE video was cherry picking 💀🙏 You never debunked it to begin with stay mad 😂😂
Cope harder@@RedEditz7 he debunked and your the entire circus for defending his nonsense. I watched up to 2:47 of your video you rebunked nothing. So I'm not wasting my time watching the rest and BLOCKED. I won't be getting anymore notifications from you so I won't be responding to you anymore.
Blud Learn what is Cherry picking first Also Are you allergic to context we can rin that shit OPM is Solar System not a single tier above it also Higher dimensional Properties hmm Do you even know what are those Because for your knowledge those properties are called Qualitative and Quantitative Superiority 😶
4:30 TF higher levels of infinity exit Set theory 🙏🏻😭💀
MF needs to learn Basic Abstract Mathematics let alone Cardinals😂😂😂😂😂OMG
Asking too much from the uneducated 😔
@@bamboteevee true 😔
@@bamboteevee true 😔
Now that I think about it How TF heis arguing about higher dimensionality when he doesn't know what is Set theory 😭😭😭🤣🙏🏻nor does he have a Clue on what is a higher infinity
@@Troll2000zxwait he dont know set theory?😭 im not even finna watch the video atp
Dude, these opm fans always exaggerate the power of their favorite fictional universes and try to make the characters seem dozens of times stronger than they really are, they tend to exaggerate the power of their characters
Bro just debunked, educated and called the biggest Saitama fan in the universe stupid in 1,000 languages.
Also "ignoring distance energy and size" doesnt equal Surpassing it
Same thing with Minatos flying ryjin being beyond the concepts of space and distance it really doesnt mean shit unless fully explained
Lesson we Learned Never let OPM Goons Anywhere Close to something that Has the Letters I N FTE😅
OPM Goons Have so kinda Allergy to Context
ONG 😭
@@RedEditz7OK the Higher dimension in Context Context still needs Context tho Ok I'll say 4D how TF does EV scale to it this Kid is something else also attacking from a Higher dimension without again Context is Nominal Fallacy 🤣🤣🤣🙏🏻
@@RedEditz7Bro why you're roasting yourself you're also a OPM Fan tho not Goon 😶😭🤣🙏🏻🙏🏻Sorry Poks
@@Troll2000zx nah I'm only fan of Boros 😂 I like OPM Manga but it doesn't mean I'm it's fan cuz a fan is basically someone who like it so much that he takes stuff literally which I don't
Maybe Saitama fans should become goku fans as well, because they can't get goku out of their heads🤦🏻♂️
Sup bruh, haven't commented on this channel in over a year🗿
Ong
yea i was on a hiatus 😭 that's why i didn't post any videos for a whole year
Side characters in OP be folding xeno. There's nothing to discuss Gokutards just miss the old dragon ball where Goku was a gag and super strong cuz right now everyone in DB gets folded by Garou
@@EmmanuelGbiayejust how stupid can you be think garou can beat db verse? You making me laugh 😂
@@DionAnims it's not about belief it's just a fact. You can choose to face that reality or you can remain delusional but the facts will still not change
@@EmmanuelGbiaye so you will choose to be delusional just you can whatever sleep you at night do your research blud 😂
Opms trying not to make up headcannons challenge: impossible 😂
Ong
These opm fans don't know how to scale. I would've did better as an 8 year old.
This guy tries to only use the words rather than In the context they are used
"infinitely Bubbling forth" no My g
If its infinitely COMING FORTH its not Infinite yet its just Endlessly Coming forth Because ITS BASED ON ACTIONS AND POSSIBILITIES!!!! POSSIBILITIES THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET THATS WHY THEY ARE BUBBLING FORTH NOT JUST THERE
GOD HE SOUNDS LIKE OMARI AND HE SAYS THE SAME SHIT OMARI DOES AND THATS PISSING ME OFF
You look ridiculous bro 😭
@@hunt6851 I don't want to look smart to Saitama fanboys. If you jobbers think I'm spitting I'm obviously saying something wrong. Go kick rocks.
4:38 infinite numbers is only universal+ not more
Actually infinite ♾ is High universal.
It's based on the MWI that could reach even hyperversal depending on the dimensions
@@Brosie_Osieits not mwi or type 3 multiverse, stop wanking
@@JJade-pg6qx idk
@@JJade-pg6qx yes
I allow the multiversal scale, just so that I can remind them that multiversal scales far below Goku still lol 😂😂
It's crazy how people say DB fans can't read, but I feel that's more true for OPM fans
Lol 😂
it is crazy because you can't even check if your guidebooks is real reliable as source lmao
@@silentlyanonymous306 daizenshuu isn't real? That's the first time I've heard such a terrible excuse 😭
@@silentlyanonymous306 ok why ks daizenshuu not real according to a opmtard 😂
@@silentlyanonymous306Toriyama has written the daizenshuu and literally affirmed it’s a source material that’s like saying the opm manga is an unreliable source…. You’re just comitting a genetic fallacy tbh
uh oh another OPM fan trying his best to get Saitama to multiversal. Seriously how many times have we DB fans had this argument?
Bro, sometimes I wonder if one day saitama does...let's say he gets strong to the point where he can destroy a multiverse or a hyperverse or more with easy do you think people will simply accept that?????
yea
@@JawBreaker4756 yes they will bcz he will have feats,statement and context and stuff we will accept it lol but as of now OPM fans are overrating him over the most stupid words by taking words LITERALLY
@@JawBreaker4756 Why do you think people have a hard time accepting Goku's outer scale? People get the character scale from the internet, so they will believe whatever the internet says. If the internet said that Goku is only multi, they would believe it.
@@nobodynamedken vsb , csap , afbw , PSW scalers ain't a joke bruh , Goku Is 2C at best
What the hell was this guy even trying to "debunk", bro infinitely literally doesn't mean infinite especially in this context here. Bubbles are forming infinitely constantly and endlessly. Infinitely =/= infinite by definition too. NOt only that you contradicted yourself by showing us a definition wich agrees that infinitely only means expanding or growing endlessly or infinitely its an infinite or endless process however it is not and never infinite itself.
Yet another example of saitama fans failing to use common sense, Ive lost count to how many times something like this has happened
Same lol they take things out of context WAAAYYY to much
common sense? maybe u failed🤷♂️
goku has never shown multiversal feats, close to Universal with no feats at all would scale him to low universe lvl🤷♂️
@@RedEditz7come on, try to debunk the other guy here, you runnin like cowards now
@@silentlyanonymous306 congratulations you have just proven my point, goku has presented universal feats backed with with statements from the guidebooks, anime and manga since the namek saga.
But ofc its too hard for you to understand
@@therandomuser5126it would be hard for me grasp the right scaling because there are filler in anime that was not even belong to manga, the original source material of the show.
guidebook that wasn't written by toriyama, yeahh keep coping
He should debate drip on this instead of ducking
LITERALLY LMFAO
@@RedEditz7 drips probably gonna get a room of DBZeat riders and somehow win.i think that's a fair way to debate.
@@player-hz8echow the debate would be on Stage where only they will debate the rest will be muted basically audience of the debate lmfao on top of that we never said that debate will happen in Drip's server
@@RedEditz7 do u have assurance that will happen?no unless u have proof of drip sauce having a proper debate with someone with out some of his fan boys chastising the other party then no I don't trust ur words.
The same with my friends and I
He literally ducked and blocked one of my friends when he asked for his cord😭
Facts he is incompetent
Maybe the OPM manga is going to give more different concepts or theory.
I hope it does bcz stating something without evidence is just STUPID 😭 like they don't even know how to dimensional scaling works
He fact he didn't fully watch the vid and "try to debunk drip" already shows he knew he couldn't debunk wat was being put in his face so he quit,
That's 1 slimy bastard 😂
Whygiveup11 is the slimy bastard right?
ONG 😭🤣🙏🏻
Literally 😂
Also at 14:50, it's funny because it literally shows a 3d cube instead of a "hyperspace" or anything like that.
Dubs that guy is garbage
ONG 😭😭
bro doesn't even know how to scale properly
TF Is he even Trying to claim😶😭
@@RedEditz7 yo imma make a vis about this I a few hours and I wanna ask permission to reference your video because it seemed like you did a good job debunking this.
@@Samurai_Capcut Sure bro why not?
@@Troll2000zx basically in first part infinite = infnitely 😭 in the second part Void's Dimensional slash having Higher dimentional properties
4:48 are you suggesting that Gokus "5-6D" strength isnt Infinite because hes growing or are you using that as an analogy
Edit:Bro Debunking Himself💀
I will be surprised if he thinks infinite is boundless or tier 0 when infinite is only High universal or tier High 3-A there multiple types of infinity. ♾
@@JJade-pg6qx true
But Infinite isn't a set value it's ever increasing but doesn't go higher in Dimensionality
ONG 😭😭
@@JJade-pg6qxone of my friends brought it up in a comment and he literally MADE A WHOLE VIDEO ABOUT IT
Haven't watched it yet but it's gonna be good i can tell ( i am the princess guy btw )
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@@RedEditz7 You did not rebunk anything !
Ok lets make this simple . ( its ganna be long , sorry )
1) Infinitly occurring for every possibility .
The explenation being given is MWI ( many worlds interpretation )
And judging by how these worlds continue existing without the wave funcion colaps , this means that OPM is using Everets explenation of MWI . ( with quantum decoherence)
As its not based on just observation or measurment , meaning that everything in the universe that can have multiple possibile outcomes , will have multiple possibile outcomes . Resulting in infinite possibilities !
Furthermore he completely egnored the " outside causality " ( he does not know basic causality transcendence types ) statement .
It means this space is outside linear causality / linear time .
Meaning that the parallel world being created , are from all of time ( past future and present ) .
So even if we spin this on his favor and say that they are produces endlessly in relation to time and not infinite in amount it would still be an infinite amount , based on this context .
2) Falshy flash can sense the attack , but not dodge it . He was never the target especially considering that EV goal is not to kill him but to turn him in to a God Avatar .
3) Although visually the attack looks like it has no higher dimensional properties , Drip is forgetting the statement that EV had to fold dimensions , to pinpoint his attack and control its properties .
The attack can still cover any distance ( it egnores distance and size ) wich means its higher dimensional in size ( transcending any lower dimensional distance and size ) .
Meaning the attack can cover and destroy an infinite 3d object , if required to .
4) Subspace and hyperspace are interchangable terms !
Depending on specifics bothe can be higher dimensional .
He is right to say that hyperspace is allways talking about higher dimensions while subspace can still be 3D ( allthough in a lot of depictions , that is not the case ) .
The properties shown , and the statements said by blast ( calling it , a higher dimension ) are more than enough for it to qualify as Hyperspace .
5) EV was clearly teleporting back in to the universe , and reaching out for flashy flash .
Also did you just say that egnoring size and distance is not higher dimensional ??!
My guy , if you egnore size and distance as a whole ( not just in a 3d level ) you would scale to Outer , as it would mean thatt you can affect any object , no matter what its size = no matter its dimensionality . 😂
If blast did not say " to what extent it egnores them it depends on the " , you would see valid OPM outer arguments .
But blasts explenation just confirmes that it is talking in a 3d sense ,( meaning a higher dimensional attack ) , and that it could be even higher in the future ( egnoring 4d space , 5d space etc ) .
It egnoring size distance and energy is 100% of a higher dimensional attack .
This is obvious downplay by drip !
@@smile1600aint reading allat
OPM eternal victim of DBS lol.
DBZ victims
Oh db*
Oh yeah drip sauce got debunk by another guy on tiktok
Who?😂
By who send link ong
The higher dimention stuff kinda contradicts itself.
Empty void was in a higher dimention wo how did flashy flash know his dimentionslash was comming. A being in a higher dimention would be Infinitely times faster than those in a lower dimention and yet a person bound in 3d was able to percieve it and even warn sonic about the slash before it was used.
Ast knocked him out of this higher dimention. He isnt higher dimentional so how did he do it. It was also in one hit meaning it wasnt hard to do.
Having access to a higher dimention doesnt mean you scale to that dimention. Hyperspaces existing doesnt mean he scales to the hyperspace.
He used special jutsu meaning its hax based not ap based so saying empty void doesnt scale to it would be highballing and wank.
Assuming those bubbles are infinite is false. Thats never proven once. You cant take everything at face value and ignore context
This man even ignores context with infinite and Infinitely.
well actually it would be More Than Infinitely faster aka Inaccessible amounts of times faster + Yeah and being Called higher dimensional scales to Freaking nowhere as it's a Nominal + Association Fallacy 😭🙏🏻
@@Gking121 anyway I was going to tell you that @whygiveup11 guy is the one I'm DEBUNKING in the video and apparently he blocked me or something bcz I can't reply to him whenever I try a msg pops up saying "an error occurred' lol 😂
@@RedEditz7 Rage Quit 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🏻Like you're slamming him in an Online Game 🎮🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're so dumb man blast is so far the only person who can actually interact with empty being that he is a higher dimensional being and if you actually read the context as to why flashy could sense the attack was because he was more susceptible to gods mind attack sonic on the other hand was completely unaffected being that he had stronger mental fortitude. Matter of fact flashy being able to sense it could be alluding to the fact that he in a sense wanted to reach out to the hand and god has transferred his power before already without direct contact your statements prove nothing
The manga is not specifically implying a high multiversal scale, it aound kinda like timelines and parallel universes, which would make it low multi sense the dimensions are consistent within the same universe. Which could make him universal still sense the new villian is only on a dimensional scale.
i hope so but as of now we can't be sure
@@RedEditz7 well as of now that's what we have, he's only on a dimensional scale till shown higher.
@@Johnbattlemaker pretty much yea i hope he gets beter feats
@@Johnbattlemakerparallel universe means another universe another version of yourself and parallel universe can't mean the same universe it literally makes no sense
@@user-px7om3gz5k no, composite dimensions are separate from another universe, parallels/alternate are strings to the same universe and are not separate , that makes it a dimension not another universe, learn your facts
Opm goons exposed themselves they can't scale 😂😂😂
They cap at below garlic Jr level
I have goku at 6D still negs OPM which caps 4D god in regards to the blast statement would mean 4D
5D going by the new void feat which is actually 4D whygiveup11 really doesn't understand logic on cosmos
Sad i know
Here how i possibly scale Goku to 6d the Dragon ball universe have multiple dimensions that has it own space time which make it low multiversal and there are 12 universe that scales to 5d because the universe are separate in a bigger space than low multiversal/4D and timelines contains the 12 universe history which make it 6d and infinite zamasu become that timelines and jiren scales above zamasu and Goku can beat jiren which make Goku 6 dimensional. 😉
Opm is still not getting past 3D
is that so, then get them past vacuum of space
@@silentlyanonymous306 Get Saitama to universal instead of your excuses
Can you give me the debunk video?
I made a community post in which the link is verified use it from there
@@RedEditz7 ok
This video is Brainrot bro
NGL I actually agree I didn't have anything to record my own Voice so I had to rely on Text 😭😭
But once I get something to record my voice I'll be sure to use it
@@RedEditz7Actually I'm not complaining about the quality at all bro, I mean the dude trying to debunk drip is pure brain rot, anyways respect for defending drip.
@@IIProfDemi-00 ohh 😅😅 looks like I misunderstood there
This is whygiveup? Bruh...Saitama Memes by Whygiveup
@@TheeSinnerman Who do you think is dumber, whygiveup11 or omari
@@OyinkansolaAgboola that is an impossible question.... Should we do a live stream on this guy to find out? I think we should. I'd say for now Omari is still Significantly stupider...
Why can't dbz fans accept that murata and one don't care about them and just trying to make saitama stronger than terra 2 even murata said it himself he doesn't care about dbz fans
The issue isn't murata its the opm fanboys who wank their verse and ignore context.
We don't hate murata I'm a opm fan myself. That being said db fans also wank their verse as well. I Try to be neutral so I don't belive in db being outerversal
1. Unironically Canon Saitama is already stronger then Terra 2 Saitama
2. bro we have absolutely NO hate for the verse or creator what we hate that these OPM fans takes stuff out of context and stuff 😭i literally am hyped for by Boy Saitama's Multiversal scaling but this isn't it yet 😭
@@RedEditz7and what makes you different?
b*tch pls, get goku past vacuum of space, yall idiots should stop glazing him to multiversal without feats
@@RedEditz7yea, I am waiting for the season 3 anime to come out, but these saitama fans are just annoying
@@silentlyanonymous306you acting like goku didn't travel to space with whis and go through the moon twice and fighting in the meteor 😂
the guy already isn't making a good first impression lol
uhh who?
@@RedEditz7 The why give up guy
@@RedEditz7btw I am the guy you were talking last night
@@tonmoysaikia-pt2nd ohh lol 🤣 i mean what did ya expect he said infinitely = infinite
@@RedEditz7 bro literally cherry picked the definition how ironic
I'm still skeptical about all of this, we don't know yet fully the extend of Empty Void's powers and since I've read a few panels of these feats, I'm still not sure yet. But regarding the infinite thing....um, do OPM fans know about dimensional tiering? There are things infinitely stronger than infinite and likewise, infinitely stronger than an infinite that's stronger than infinite and vice versa. It gets complicated but yeah, that's the gist of dimensional tiering
Same here I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM with OPM what I have problem is with OPM fans who take stuff out of context 😭😭
I am surprised that y'all get Goku to outer due to instant transmission.
@@player-hz8ec not really I don't agree with that nonsense
Another thing is how's this a debunk.are u trying to say that cause and effect is lower that that of space and time.i don't understand bro.
@@RedEditz7 drip sauce literally gets Goku to outer using damn instant transmission.how is that possible.
5:06 bro couldnt understand basic facts
ikr 😭
This shit is war lol
I hope not but true 💀
Most of this argument stems from two things:
1: Dragonball fans dont understand “dimensions” because what they don’t understand is that dimensions in dragonball are like they are in Minecraft (basically different worlds). While in OPM its like how it is IRL
2: Yes, as of the latest manga chapters saitama has infinite potential. Will he 1shot goku the first punch? No. But thats not how his power works.
Why are DB fans so mad at this? Even some DB characters can beat goku.
Also, DB has been giving characters “infinite power” since the very start lol
Maincraft cosmology does have 3 separate spacetime over world, nether, and End dimensions which is low multiversal or tier 2-C which confirms my point where i scale dragon Ball anyways.
so OPM logic of how dimension and dimensionality works is correct but now HOW ACTUALLY THE DIMENTIONALITY WORKS isn't?
1. we understand that heck even MHA and JJK fans understand how it works 💀🙏 and that's just hasty generlization
2. THAT WHAT WE ARE SAYING 💀💀 INFINITE POTENTIAL DOESN'T GIVE YOU HIGHER DIMENSIONAL SACLING YOU RET@ARDS GODDAMN LIKE WTF DO YA'LL SMOKE????
@@RedEditz7 bro empty void literally ignored space and time.we aren't saying it's 5d.my point is that the verse is beginning to enter multiversal levels of Cosmology.
@@player-hz8ec I agree with you on that
One more who is trying make opm weak can't believe the chapter just air and debunker started to debunk are u not tired of this if u don't like opm then plz don't make fun of that i know u get views for that but isn't it too much now let them cook bro who r u to make fun of the manga and he is holding back wait they said that they will bring more fight scene so, wait for that
@@GideonvanjamoYanthan-vl8sb Well you should tell that to the people that are already claiming saitama and void to be multiversal. We believe that OPM will soon enter that realm of power it is just how the OPM fans start overhyping every small thing that happens.
@@OyinkansolaAgboola because u all jump it first
@@GideonvanjamoYanthan-vl8sb The OPM fans are the ones who start running their mouth first. You cannot tell me they did not overhype it along with attacking other fandoms especially the Dragonball fans.
@@OyinkansolaAgboola Goku fans always come in the comment whenever someone explain about power scaling of opm they always said the same that he can't beat goku which sometime annoyed me
lmao , Wait for The Next Chapter lol, This Is Just The Beginning....
Parallel worlds branch out with each possibility infinitely bubbling forth like foam suggests a concept related to the multiverse theory or the idea that there are countless alternate realities or universes. Here’s a breakdown:
1. Parallel Worlds: Refers to multiple universes or realities existing alongside our own.
2. Branch Out: Implies that these realities diverge or split from each other based on different choices, events, or possibilities.
3. Each Possibility Infinitely Bubbling Forth: Suggests that for every decision or event, there is a corresponding new universe or reality being created. This proliferation continues indefinitely.
4. Like Foam: Compares the process to the bubbling and expanding nature of foam, where each bubble represents a separate reality.
In essence, the phrase paints a picture of a vast, complex multiverse where every conceivable outcome and possibility exists, continually expanding and branching out into new realities.
Ths is just Copy pasting from Chat-GPT over and over at this point 💀🙏
Pretty much sums it.
You did not rebunk anything !
Ok lets make this simple . ( its ganna be long , sorry )
1) Infinitly occurring for every possibility .
The explenation being given is MWI ( many worlds interpretation )
And judging by how these worlds continue existing without the wave funcion colaps , this means that OPM is using Everets explenation of MWI . ( with quantum decoherence)
As its not based on just observation or measurment , meaning that everything in the universe that can have multiple possibile outcomes , will have multiple possibile outcomes . Resulting in infinite possibilities !
Furthermore he completely egnored the " outside causality " ( he does not know basic causality transcendence types ) statement .
It means this space is outside linear causality / linear time .
Meaning that the parallel world being created , are from all of time ( past future and present ) .
So even if we spin this on his favor and say that they are produces endlessly in relation to time and not infinite in amount it would still be an infinite amount , based on this context .
2) Falshy flash can sense the attack , but not dodge it . He was never the target especially considering that EV goal is not to kill him but to turn him in to a God Avatar .
3) Although visually the attack looks like it has no higher dimensional properties , Drip is forgetting the statement that EV had to fold dimensions , to pinpoint his attack and control its properties .
The attack can still cover any distance ( it egnores distance and size ) wich means its higher dimensional in size ( transcending any lower dimensional distance and size ) .
Meaning the attack can cover and destroy an infinite 3d object , if required to .
4) Subspace and hyperspace are interchangable terms !
Depending on specifics bothe can be higher dimensional .
He is right to say that hyperspace is allways talking about higher dimensions while subspace can still be 3D ( allthough in a lot of depictions , that is not the case ) .
The properties shown , and the statements said by blast ( calling it , a higher dimension ) are more than enough for it to qualify as Hyperspace .
5) EV was clearly teleporting back in to the universe , and reaching out for flashy flash .
Also did you just say that egnoring size and distance is not higher dimensional ??!
My guy , if you egnore size and distance as a whole ( not just in a 3d level ) you would scale to Outer , as it would mean thatt you can affect any object , no matter what its size = no matter its dimensionality . 😂
If blast did not say " to what extent it egnores them it depends on the " , you would see valid OPM outer arguments .
But blasts explenation just confirmes that it is talking in a 3d sense ,( meaning a higher dimensional attack ) , and that it could be even higher in the future ( egnoring 4d space , 5d space etc ) .
It egnoring size distance and energy is 100% of a higher dimensional attack .
This is obvious downplay by drip !
You literally copied @DonMuca.😂
@@shanksyonko411 Alt acc !😂 He ( whygiveup11) has banned my original acc , for downplaying OPM . ( supposetly )
I am hated by bothe OPM fans , and DB fans .
@@smile1600 how did you downplay OPM what did you say?
@@JJade-pg6qx I think i said that Goku could beat saitama by instaint transmitioning him in outer space , than teleporting back , leaving him there .
With no portal to help him , he will die from starvation , or some other causes , even if he does not need to breath .
He said that saitama does not care he would prob punch/ jump/fart his way back , or addapt to outer space .
Than he endet the comment by saying "get out of my comment section " and i was banned !😅
@@JJade-pg6qx To be fare , he does seem to be able to adapt .
He could not breath in space , than when he gets serious , he now can .
He needs to look at his reflection , tries 3 times , actually does it .
To be fare it seems like he can grow and adapt to anything as long as he has a desire to .
It would make sense , since he is a being with no limiter .
But this is not very factual , and just speculation , based on very little !
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Subspace is hyperspace there's no difference
Don't let him confuse you
Lol theres a huge difference
@@DionAnims information like this is free. Are you intentionally trying to be stupid?
@@EmmanuelGbiaye how about you? Your trying embracing yourself
Can you please debunk goku i hate fans saying hes infinite but his durability isnt even infinite i think arale is enough or future trunks from the future timeline 13 years old is enough for goku strongest form because of the fking stupid plot always makes him damage and almost lose
Its like in the first fight he would lose but when he said "Plot armor" he almost died then opponent weapon started attack the weapon holder that so stupid dude plot armor always saves goku and fans always says its infinite but i always believe Goku black if he wished for unerasable and immortality at the same time hes the true strongest
Goku durability just sucks and strength
Huh 🤨🤨🤨 what the hell are you yapping like know I’m actually genuinely confused 🫤 like what are even talking about man debunk what??? His durability depends on ki barrier always being up or if he’s low on energy or if his guard is down if you’re talking about the stupid rock shit idiots keep bringing up that the was gag scene or him being shot by a laser 1 his guard was down and his energy was lowered also it clearly wasn’t a normal lazer and last who said his durability is infinite? Arale is relevant to goku in blue but wouldn’t say she’s stronger than him future trunks 13 years is not doing anything super goku man he is way to weak it’s not even a comparison if goku black saga trunks could even beat base form black then what is 13 year old trunks going to do ?? 😂😂😂
I don't think anyone is gonna debunk goku.
@@JawBreaker4756 oh come on dude they are overating Goku so much they said he's infinite but he's just strong not infinite
@@SamuraiYajirobe I do agree that Goku is somehow overrated. Especially saying Goku solos fiction. I'm pretty sure that the way Goku is scaled by CZcamsrs is not what the writer is truly aiming for.
@@SamuraiYajirobe DBZ had lasted for a long time now and has so many fans that it's near to impossible to convince them all that Some character from another show or anime beats Goku.
saitama will be outer soon laugh i lauging at yall one chapter on multi n everyone jumping left right debuking at the speed of light 😂 😂😂wtfff
Poor guy you can't even debunk his statements your opm cosmology caps at 4d dont even bother 😂
Unironically these same "Multi scans" contradicts themselves LOL 😂 so idk what is you hyping up at the very best the Cosmology of OPM is 4D lol
@@RedEditz7how do they contradict each other
@@DionAnims6D* or higher
@@RedEditz7how?
Cope opm detractors empty void is 5D multiversal from this chapter now stay mad
Wheres your proof buddy
Uhhh I think you’re the one copeing because that’s clearly not the case as proven in both drip vid and this video 😂 or just rage baiting which love to see it by the way 😊lololol
@@DionAnimsjust ignore him man he’s probably a troll or he’s rage baiting 😂lololo it’s not worth it trust me 🙏🫵🏾❤️
i will love to see your explanation lol please elaborate 😂
and tf is detractors
@RedEditz7 empty void stands above causality of the universe as per what's said and what's clearly shown he can see an infinite amount of parallel worlds and interact with them from the outside
If you don't know what being above causality of the universe means, it means he's above the concept of time, distance, speed, reality, space, size, do I need to continue?
He can not only go to any parallel timeline which spans infinitely but also to any specific timeline as shown when he went directly to the reverse causality punch to suck the leaking god power from garou
Blast clearly states in one of the chapters that God's power is of a higher dimension, these are just avatars only using a fraction of gods power so just imagine how powerful God really is if just a fraction of his power can grant this level of power
To dumb it down for you even more the only character in dbs that even comes close to any of this is Zeno cause he stands above all the universes and literally sits outside of them, goku is nowhere near this level of power he's still capped at 4th dimensional
Goku can't sit outside of his own universe and effect any part of it from the outside, he can't even breathe in space, he can't travel to the other parallel universes without being taken there by an angel, he can't go to beerus planet without whis, he's still bounded by time, space, speed, etc meaning he's not 5D, empty void is so empty void literally 1 taps with hyperspace dimensional slash
Nope I'm not wasting my time watching anybody's video defending the nonsense that i had to watch.
The fact that your sitting here defending somebody who doesn't even hide their cherry picking and pulls mental gymnastics shows that you're not genuine.
His video stays debunked cope.
Yap yap yap yap yap cope hard my boy keep crying and learn how to get good at power scale correctly lololol 😂😂
Yet you wasted your time on typing all that shit 💀 and what nonsense?
I'm defending his debunk bcz it's the truth talking about cherry pick your ENTIRE video was cherry picking 💀🙏
You never debunked it to begin with stay mad 😂😂
Cope harder@@RedEditz7 he debunked and your the entire circus for defending his nonsense. I watched up to 2:47 of your video you rebunked nothing.
So I'm not wasting my time watching the rest and BLOCKED.
I won't be getting anymore notifications from you so I won't be responding to you anymore.
Blud Learn what is Cherry picking first Also Are you allergic to context we can rin that shit OPM is Solar System not a single tier above it also Higher dimensional Properties hmm Do you even know what are those Because for your knowledge those properties are called Qualitative and Quantitative Superiority 😶
You realise the other guy defending opm was also cherry picking right. So why don't you critique him. Is it cause of bias