I guess because it's no longer taught at schools is probably the reason why there isn't a one volume penguins classics edition. It must be wonderful to be able to read Horace in the original latin. Could we request a recital of horace in Latin for a future Poetry Tueday video perhaps? Please?
Wine and Calzones with Horace? Oh, yeah! I came back to this video today as I am reading Ovid at the moment( watched the Ovid video first) and am planning on a Horace read after Christmas. Steve Donaghue, the gift that goes on giving.
I certainly share your enthusiasm for Horace, in Latin. I also love James Michie's parallel-text translation of the Odes, which you hold up to the camera but don't talk about! As a younger man I was wowed by the way he attempted those lyric meters in his English - a clever, convincing job, and beautiful writing, a voice I came to love in its own right.
I have been especially looking forward to Horace day. Getting to read Horace first hand was one of the few things that in retrospect make the time I spent studying Latin worthwhile. Not that studying Latin is pointless, just that I proved unable to retain it so it went to waste. But I can remember the delight I felt at the time when I could read him successfully. Catullus for poet laureate, there's a hysterical thought.
Ok Steve. I’m convinced, I’m going to check out Livy and Horace. Found The Complete Works of Horace Illustrated by Delphi Classics on Scribd. I’m surprised you’re not subscribed to it or are you? It’s sort of like Netflix for readers.
So, theoretically, how would someone (especially someone who isn’t a full time student) go about learning enough Latin to appreciate Horace? Would it be possible?
I guess it would take a lot of dedication of free time. I am so long out of school that my proficiency in Latin has gone and I now read texts with English translation alongside. I ambitiously bought myself a good set of books, Reading Latin by Peter V Jones and Keith Sidwell (Cambridge University Press). It has many extracts from classic texts, including a short piece from Horace's Odes. As I said, it would require more time and dedication than I can give it to work through the course to get back some proficiency, due to my aged brain and too many other commitments. But I reckon that course is probably worth looking into if you are considering tackling the subject. As for part time study, I don't know if the British Open University still offer their Classical Latin course.
You could look into some homeschool curriculum, when I taught my children, 25 years ago, we were learning Greek. There may have been a Latin course also. It could be worth a search.🌼
Sheryl Cox How funny! That is exactly what I recommended to my friend-because that is how my son got started! (Back when he was really little, he even started with the Minimus series.)
Very late to this so I don't know if you'll ever read this but I did Horace, Perseus and Juvenal's satires many years ago when I studied Latin A-Level. And Horace's Epistles. I can still remember the first line of one of his letters the short bit of Latin and the longer English bit.'Ridens et ridentibus' - "You will laugh and you may laugh. I, the person who you know, have caught three wild boars. And magnificent ones at that." I loved Horace's poetry. I preferred Juvenal's Satires, which I re-read recently. Time to go back and read some Horace I think.
I guess because it's no longer taught at schools is probably the reason why there isn't a one volume penguins classics edition. It must be wonderful to be able to read Horace in the original latin. Could we request a recital of horace in Latin for a future Poetry Tueday video perhaps? Please?
Wine and Calzones with Horace? Oh, yeah! I came back to this video today as I am reading Ovid at the moment( watched the Ovid video first) and am planning on a Horace read after Christmas. Steve Donaghue, the gift that goes on giving.
A loving tribute!
These videos make me feel like I missed out on learning Latin. So many great writers that I can only read translated. Never too late, I suppose.
I certainly share your enthusiasm for Horace, in Latin. I also love James Michie's parallel-text translation of the Odes, which you hold up to the camera but don't talk about! As a younger man I was wowed by the way he attempted those lyric meters in his English - a clever, convincing job, and beautiful writing, a voice I came to love in its own right.
I just bought all the Livy I could find, now I ordered Horace. If I keep this up, your recommendations will ruin me!
Sorry! I can be very dangerous to book-buying budgets!
I have been especially looking forward to Horace day. Getting to read Horace first hand was one of the few things that in retrospect make the time I spent studying Latin worthwhile. Not that studying Latin is pointless, just that I proved unable to retain it so it went to waste. But I can remember the delight I felt at the time when I could read him successfully.
Catullus for poet laureate, there's a hysterical thought.
You are SO articulate Steve
Ok Steve. I’m convinced, I’m going to check out Livy and Horace. Found The Complete Works of Horace Illustrated by Delphi Classics on Scribd. I’m surprised you’re not subscribed to it or are you? It’s sort of like Netflix for readers.
So, theoretically, how would someone (especially someone who isn’t a full time student) go about learning enough Latin to appreciate Horace? Would it be possible?
I guess it would take a lot of dedication of free time. I am so long out of school that my proficiency in Latin has gone and I now read texts with English translation alongside. I ambitiously bought myself a good set of books, Reading Latin by Peter V Jones and Keith Sidwell (Cambridge University Press). It has many extracts from classic texts, including a short piece from Horace's Odes. As I said, it would require more time and dedication than I can give it to work through the course to get back some proficiency, due to my aged brain and too many other commitments. But I reckon that course is probably worth looking into if you are considering tackling the subject. As for part time study, I don't know if the British Open University still offer their Classical Latin course.
No-I will definitely not be biting off this project!-but I have a friend keeps talking about trying to learn. Thanks so much for your ideas here.
You could look into some homeschool curriculum, when I taught my children, 25 years ago, we were learning Greek. There may have been a Latin course also. It could be worth a search.🌼
Sheryl Cox How funny! That is exactly what I recommended to my friend-because that is how my son got started! (Back when he was really little, he even started with the Minimus series.)
Most major universities have schools of continuing studies, go there!
Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil (Cicero) 😇👍
Very late to this so I don't know if you'll ever read this but I did Horace, Perseus and Juvenal's satires many years ago when I studied Latin A-Level. And Horace's Epistles. I can still remember the first line of one of his letters the short bit of Latin and the longer English bit.'Ridens et ridentibus' - "You will laugh and you may laugh. I, the person who you know, have caught three wild boars. And magnificent ones at that." I loved Horace's poetry. I preferred Juvenal's Satires, which I re-read recently. Time to go back and read some Horace I think.
That is Pliny!
@@williams.5952 Yes, I was reminded of that by someone recently. It's weird that I remembered it as Horace for, almost, 35 years.
Hahaha! Mini Meg cracks me up!
Your commentary is captivating