INEOS Grenadier Off-road Review

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    This is the all-new INEOS Grenadier!
    Now we know what some of you are thinking - it looks like a classic Land Rover Defender! And sure, it might do, but we assure you that this is a totally different car. If anything, this is probably the car that classic Land Rover fans wish was released instead of the latest Defender!
    One thing's for sure - this car definitely isn’t a case of style over substance! If you’re looking for a truly rugged off-roader, it doesn’t get much better than this. The Grenadier comes with a choice of two engines, including a 3-litre straight-six turbo-petrol that can deliver 285hp & 450Nm of torque. It’s also packed full of off-roading tech, such as low-range mode and central locking diffs. It’s pretty heavy though, tipping the scales at 2,500kg. But when it has the ability to tow 3,500kg, does that really even matter?!
    So what's the interior like? Well once you take a step inside, you'll realise (you guessed it...) that there are some more similarities to the old Defender! You’ll find a load of physical buttons on the centre console, while there's also a large infotainment screen up top.
    When it comes to price, the Grenadier starts from £53,000 for the standard passenger vehicle, so there’s no denying that it’s good value for money! But is it really worth considering over a Land Rover? You’ll need to keep watching to find out!
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:51 Off-roading
    03:55 Chassis
    05:34 Chassis Articulation
    07:01 Exterior Design
    09:05 Traction
    11:35 Interior
    14:42 Back Seats
    15:05 Boot
    15:58 Verdict
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  Před 2 lety +353

    INEOS Grenadier or classic Defender - Which would you choose? VOTE BELOW!

  • @Alphyyn
    @Alphyyn Před 2 lety +445

    The development was done by Magna in Graz, Austria. So the Grenadier is definitely in the tradition of the Mercedes G/Puch G, which was also developed by Daimler-Steyr-Puch (Magna's predecessor company) and Mercedes in Graz in 1979. The engines come from the BMW engine plant in Steyr, also Austria. The Grenadier is then manufactured in Hambach, France, in the former Smart plant, which Ineo bought from Mercedes. All the best to Ineos, looks like a great car.

    • @zakelwe
      @zakelwe Před 2 lety +6

      Looking forward to the offroad test, this v the new defender. I'm guessing which will win ....

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks

    • @Uniongamers
      @Uniongamers Před 2 lety +8

      Thanks Wikipedia. Was this your way of saying, 'this is not a British vehicle'?

    • @sidstevens9035
      @sidstevens9035 Před 2 lety +9

      I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee which was also made in Graz , Austria.
      Not a lot of people know that !

    • @sidstevens9035
      @sidstevens9035 Před 2 lety +14

      @@Uniongamers it's not a British vehicle ! No more than the German Mini or the Chinese MG

  • @seaweeded
    @seaweeded Před 2 lety +1043

    A bunch of BMW parts put together by a Mercedes factory based on an old Britsh design? Love it!

    • @barryheller157
      @barryheller157 Před 2 lety +20

      I think it’s made in Graz by Magna.

    • @teabagtowers3823
      @teabagtowers3823 Před 2 lety +48

      I give it an hour before it starts disintegrating.

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw Před 2 lety +11

      It not built in a Mercedes factory.

    • @benjimc1
      @benjimc1 Před 2 lety +19

      @@Jabber-ig3iw The G Wagon is also built in Graz

    • @TheBepo1986
      @TheBepo1986 Před 2 lety +20

      @@Jabber-ig3iw at least it's designed by Grenadier Automotive in Stuttgrat Germany by a bunch of former Mercedes guys

  • @swisswildpicsswp3095
    @swisswildpicsswp3095 Před 2 lety +215

    I don't really go off-road. But I would buy a Grenadier. Why?
    Proper buttons and big, simple controls. Big windows. Great visibility. Real handles. Great interior space. Manual handbrake. Proper mirrors. Rugged. Simple materials. I wish more cars were made like this.

    • @alexclipper7608
      @alexclipper7608 Před 7 měsíci +2

      The new Defender has all that, except for the manual handbrake, and it also isn’t some dude’s hastily slapped together vanity project, but a proper car.

    • @swisswildpicsswp3095
      @swisswildpicsswp3095 Před 7 měsíci

      @@alexclipper7608 Nice to know. I'm gonna go and try one soon then!

    • @quintoncarlile4118
      @quintoncarlile4118 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ⁠@@alexclipper7608unlike the new defender it doesn’t have a drivetrain that will fail after 60k miles

    • @UserUser-vo2ky
      @UserUser-vo2ky Před 4 měsíci

      Buy a wrangler, they are head and shoulders above these, and finally the automotive journalists are realising it

    • @hajjdawood
      @hajjdawood Před 4 měsíci

      @@UserUser-vo2ky they are junk, a bronco is much better

  • @ViveSemelBeneVivere
    @ViveSemelBeneVivere Před rokem +21

    Love the INEOS Grenadier. What the 4x4 buyers' market sorely needs today is an affordable no-frills INEOS Grenadier - just like a Suzuki Jimny - only bigger. The problem with the INEOS Grenadier and other 4x4s is they are very expensive so out of reach for many fans.

  • @chrisreid6237
    @chrisreid6237 Před 2 lety +306

    As soon as it’s available in U.K. you’ve got to do a test between it, old defender, new defender and g wagon

    • @briangriffith3985
      @briangriffith3985 Před 2 lety +8

      and landcruiser

    • @michelvanwoudenberg
      @michelvanwoudenberg Před 2 lety +1

      @@briangriffith3985 except the landcruiser isnt available in the UK is it ? GR beats this on specs, more power, more torque, more gears, same weight, much more modern interior and its a toyota so should be reliable

    • @harrywalker5836
      @harrywalker5836 Před 2 lety +1

      g wagon are rubbish.. id buy,well,i have an f250 1975 highboy, fit front rear lockers, job done. 26" clearence, std.. same as dodge power wagon,chev cucv. old is good. &, there manuel. not computer compromised auto rubbish.. ausie..also have an 82 bronco with d60 sas.

    • @urgeeked3977
      @urgeeked3977 Před 2 lety

      @@michelvanwoudenberg well he might as well have to import one elsewhere

  • @kevgits
    @kevgits Před 2 lety +201

    This is a big fat middle finger to land rover for discontinuing the old defender and a huge win for old-school offroad-loving customers. I love it!

    • @georgedowns4034
      @georgedowns4034 Před 2 lety +4

      New Defender is more complete and I love complete cars BUT for pure, reliable off roading this is slightly better....

    • @jasminebarry2961
      @jasminebarry2961 Před 2 lety +12

      Your comment needs to be pinned to the top sir. I agree with you hundred percent. My mind tought of something similar about the new gay defender its horrible. And now this comes out it's a big win for me in my heart. I love this vehicle its proper shape style stance its mean its says move out the way plastics.

    • @warrenhulme1193
      @warrenhulme1193 Před 2 lety +6

      Id prefer a manual personally and no infotainment screen.

    • @paulmcgee1867
      @paulmcgee1867 Před rokem +1

      2 fingers more likely but does old school sell? Have you studied the subject?

    • @JW-qf2fx
      @JW-qf2fx Před 11 měsíci +1

      I love having more options and competition in the space, personally i think the Grenadier makes some poor choices on config and is upper end of the market for what you get, but will be popular anyway with the hype and excitement, and i dont think it will flop

  • @lukea8053
    @lukea8053 Před 2 lety +17

    For anyone who has only just discovered this car from Car Wow. Please look at the development and previous videos on this car on other channels from over the last year. Is a seriously impressive machine. Very exciting for the 4X4 market that the new Landy should have been all along.

    • @pinnedmegyn4689
      @pinnedmegyn4689 Před 2 lety

      ◾️ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛɪɴɢ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴇᴛᴇʀ ᴍᴇᴋʟɪsʜ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs

  • @007ikzelf
    @007ikzelf Před 2 lety +1

    Since I got my drivers licence in 1971 I’ve driven 1,5 million kilometers. 300.000 km in a Landcruiser BJ40, 45.000 in two Suzuki’s LJ80, 30.000 in a Jeep CJ2A and 169.000 in a Daihatsu Feroza. In 1988 I even got a racing licence, Dutch Racing School. So I know what it is, driving and off roading. I see that you are clearly a better driver than I am and you know a lot more cars than I do. Therefore I much like your tests and driving impressions. Keep going on!

  • @michaelp.2175
    @michaelp.2175 Před 2 lety +249

    For once a well designed and really solid vehicle, 99% of modern off roaders are not ruggedly built and often fail a few years in, time will tell if this is as reliable as it looks, yes I would consider buying one

    • @markfarminer5319
      @markfarminer5319 Před 2 lety +7

      Engines German?
      Don't hold ya breath

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před 2 lety

      That's because it's german instead of english

    • @agerestricted9932
      @agerestricted9932 Před rokem +1

      Jimny???

    • @iMernerner
      @iMernerner Před rokem +1

      Do you know a small company that called toyota?

    • @ajoo129
      @ajoo129 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@iMernernersmall company? Dude they literally own asians market

  • @graemepaterson1983
    @graemepaterson1983 Před 2 lety +180

    That creaking and squeeking would drive me mad. Hopefully just because it is a prototype

    • @derbygreg
      @derbygreg Před 2 lety +15

      It will be, most of the interior on those cars is 3D printed or fast manufacture

    • @resa574
      @resa574 Před 2 lety +8

      The interior of the LR defender is way better, I'd prefer it for that alone
      The panomric roof and the roof holes make it a better passesnger experience

    • @gamersquadlifestyle
      @gamersquadlifestyle Před 2 lety +8

      Its probably gonna continue squeaking and creaking, truthfully the Current Defender is what I call a proper upgrade from the disco 4&3 and unlike the Disco 5 you can take it offroad and not feel bad about scratching a panel or the bumper, the ineos is cool but you can't compare it to the Defender when it comes to comfortability and daily driveability and the fact that the new defender doesn't have a ladder frame chassis I sure know which care I'd like to be in offroading as well and it's definitely not the ineos

    • @AYouTubeCommenterWhoHasABrain
      @AYouTubeCommenterWhoHasABrain Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, it was the steering wheel creaking every turn

    • @AbbasBinYounas
      @AbbasBinYounas Před 2 lety +8

      ... and that stupid DingDing...

  • @josephjardine32
    @josephjardine32 Před 2 lety +116

    A car that people who want simple have been asking for. I'm happy Sir Jim Radcliffe went ahead with this, good simple car that won't be as big of a pig to drive on the road (Big fan of the old defender but it was dangerous in modern traffic).
    Also, the old technology is utilised exceptionally well on this and modern conveniences have been added which in my eyes makes this one of the best cars this year.

    • @pinnedmegyn4689
      @pinnedmegyn4689 Před 2 lety

      ◾️ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛɪɴɢ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴇᴛᴇʀ ᴍᴇᴋʟɪsʜ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs.

    • @josephjardine32
      @josephjardine32 Před 2 lety +2

      @Macavity I 100% agree with that.

    • @_P_F
      @_P_F Před 2 lety +2

      It wasn’t dangerous

    • @ianr7418
      @ianr7418 Před 2 lety +6

      BMW parts, the opposite of simple

    • @miyahtallulah
      @miyahtallulah Před 2 lety

      Or, what simple people have been asking for ..

  • @huwd2292
    @huwd2292 Před 2 lety +2

    I love that pop-up sunroof. My Dad had one on his Montego in 1987, it was the height of luxury.

  • @germi1
    @germi1 Před 2 lety +83

    I love this car! So nice to see old good things like manual handbrake coming back!

  • @mkreecelfc5766
    @mkreecelfc5766 Před 2 lety +97

    I love the old styling of this vehicle.

    • @TotalySidYT
      @TotalySidYT Před 2 lety +2

      same!

    • @zacbanks6735
      @zacbanks6735 Před 2 lety +1

      Let’s see how many subs I can get from this comment current 985

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalySidYT 👍👍👍

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Před 2 lety +3

      @@zacbanks6735 minus 200.

    • @CrashNG
      @CrashNG Před 2 lety

      Watch "Singing Man Crash Compilation #12 - BeamNG Drive | BeamNG Gaming" on CZcams
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  • @jimmer1976
    @jimmer1976 Před 2 lety +12

    I actually really like this, some really good design features, love the aircraft style roof switches, cool 😎

  • @ijaen
    @ijaen Před 2 lety +2

    Love seeing the smile faces in all journalists driving the Grenadier.

  • @LeVendeurAutomobiles
    @LeVendeurAutomobiles Před 2 lety +143

    Very Nice review Mat !!!!

  • @DeanFriederich
    @DeanFriederich Před 2 lety +3

    The creaking of the steering wheel every time he turns is SENDING ME

  • @davec.4726
    @davec.4726 Před 2 lety +3

    Mat !! I think this review of any vehicle is the best that I have ever seen, very explanative with no daft gimmicks thrown in for audience entertainment. I also liked the way you immediately put your hand up to boo-boos (a big tic for that) Factually brilliant, I want an INEOS and will look not further for a sales description of this vehicle. Thank you very much for this video..... as an experienced off roader and teacher can I be very rude and be a little of a nit-picker Don't put your thumbs inside the steering wheel when off roading, if you hit an unseen obstacle that twitches the wheels you can break your thumbs ...nit pic over thanks again for a brilliant review.

  • @vernonhampton6973
    @vernonhampton6973 Před 2 lety +62

    The Ineos Grenadier is proof that you (Land Rover) shouldn't attempt to "fix" something that was never broken to begin with. I wanted a classic Defender, but after seeing this, I'd like to be greedy and have both. GREAT review, Mat!

    • @tiga8032
      @tiga8032 Před 2 lety +16

      Time will tell if you're right. So far the new Defender is the 2nd highest selling Land Rover with a 12 month waiting list, let numbers talk.

    • @PiOfficial
      @PiOfficial Před 2 lety +3

      Really? The old defender is a shit car. Absolutely kills your back after a long journey, so loud you can’t hear yourself think inside it, mpg is impressively shit, reliability is abysmal had mine breakdown on the road three times in 40k miles, very little interior space considering the size, crap stereo, crap ac and heating. Etc etc.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC Před 2 lety +1

      @@simonwilson7581 Yes. Then again, sticking to a slightly updated version of the old design, with big updates and upgrades to the interior and tech, worked well for the Mercedes G-Wagon. Those things sell faster than they can build them too, despite the hefty price.

    • @Malc180s
      @Malc180s Před 2 lety +4

      Nah, the new defender is a massive success. People like the idea of an old defender, but anyone who's spent time in one will tell you how utterly terrible they were. What they've done with the new one is perfect - it's hugely capable off road, but refined on it, which is where most spend their lives. And it's relatively affordable. They nailed it.
      Sure, they could've stuck a caricature body on the new car like Mercedes. Meh, would it have made it any better?

    • @hamshank29
      @hamshank29 Před 2 lety +1

      But land-rover is a business with the goal of selling cars. They definitely made the right choice, however you personally feel about that car

  • @uniszuurmond
    @uniszuurmond Před 2 lety +158

    I would have thought that the 60/40 rear split seats would align with the door openings, i.e. the 40 split with the small opening and the 60 split with the wider one.

    • @rupedog
      @rupedog Před 2 lety +21

      Its got lots of obvious design flaws like that...given the ground up nature, its very surprising such obvious things were missed

    • @sheerluckholmes5468
      @sheerluckholmes5468 Před 2 lety +6

      Not only that but he showed the rear seat backs don't lay down level with the rear floor making it nice and flat.

    • @kristoffscuba5466
      @kristoffscuba5466 Před 2 lety +5

      The fact the seats don’t fold flat is crazy. Rules the car out for me, the things massive, but there less usable “tip run” space than my old Mercedes ml, which has a fully flat floor.

    • @russmiddleton2713
      @russmiddleton2713 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sheerluckholmes5468 That's because the battery and electronics are underneath the rear seat. Supposedly they will be in a waterproof box.

    • @dynamo1796
      @dynamo1796 Před 2 lety +1

      Its got some weird design choices which I guess comes from the ground up design. Wedging that 3.0L beamer engine into a weirdly shaped engine bay, for one. Its just such an inefficient layout which causes the weird humped roof and leaves no space for the electronics/ battery. The suspension mounts for the leaf springs are left danging below the frame, thats just not how modern ladder frame/ leaf springs work. You've basically just compromised your ground clearance. And the list goes on.

  • @makhuvelelazarus2345
    @makhuvelelazarus2345 Před 2 lety +1

    This is one of the best reviews Mat has ever done.

  • @maxd9551
    @maxd9551 Před 2 lety +8

    I am looking forward to a head to head to head offroad test with the old and the modern Defender!

  • @long_view
    @long_view Před 2 lety +71

    JLR missed a trick when it designed the new Defender; as Matt says, this is the car that the new Defender should have been (and the new Defender should have been the Discovery replacement). If you configure the new Defender to any decent spec its price overlaps Discos and some RR Sports - shades of the pricing hiatus that plagued BL. And it's not built in Wales because a) the Welsh government refused to improve logistics flow along the M4 in S Wales, and b) because Ineos is taking over a Mercedes plant in France, so no huge financial or carbon footprint cost that would otherwise have been incurred by a new build. All of this demonstrates why Jim Ratcliffe is so successful. I agree with Matt - the Grenadier will be a huge success.

    • @maxtorque2277
      @maxtorque2277 Před 2 lety +20

      If Landrover had designed the new Defender like this, they would have gone out of buisness.......

    • @adveyrastogi3486
      @adveyrastogi3486 Před 2 lety +5

      @@maxtorque2277 how do you mean?

    • @IslaSprollie
      @IslaSprollie Před 2 lety +3

      @@maxtorque2277 I agree

    • @IslaSprollie
      @IslaSprollie Před 2 lety +4

      @@adveyrastogi3486 Because it looks like a really badly modified version of the old defender, not a cool one like say Twisted. Why has it got all the 'bits' stuck to the doors?

    • @piuthemagicman
      @piuthemagicman Před 2 lety +4

      @@IslaSprollie If it would be a genuine LR design it obviously would not look like a bad mod. This is still a tough well built car no matter how it looks :)

  • @kissgergo5202
    @kissgergo5202 Před 2 lety +20

    I'd love to see an offroad comparison video with the production version of this car and the new Defender. Both on offroad tires!

    • @myytchannel6632
      @myytchannel6632 Před 2 lety +1

      They both will do exactly the same. Throw new Toyota 4Runner in the mix even. All will perform the same. The difference can cone only in offroad situations where you want to break one of these vehicles. But All the normal offroad trails, all of the 4x4 will do ok.

    • @nnoddy8161
      @nnoddy8161 Před 2 lety

      Both with lockers specified.

    • @dheerajbw
      @dheerajbw Před 2 lety +1

      ..and the old defender, the g-63 (because why not, and then they have pedigree to share after all), and one of the old Land Cruisers too if doable

    • @misterminister3858
      @misterminister3858 Před 2 lety

      if the new defender works and drives it will be the same (however they have shitty quality control) -

  • @FreshlySnipes
    @FreshlySnipes Před 4 měsíci +1

    These are dope! I’m so happy to see smaller companies like this coming in and building manual, old school, low tech, purpose built vehicles. I’d love to see a company come in and build a manual transmission, low tech sports car.

  • @mgo95
    @mgo95 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the chassis demo that the dealer made👍

  • @I_THE_ME
    @I_THE_ME Před 2 lety +66

    The 450 nm of torque from the engine might seem low, but an 8 speed torque converter gearbox offers low enough gearing, so that what you want is a nice flat torque curve.

    • @andrewlynham606
      @andrewlynham606 Před 2 lety +11

      Sorry I fell asleep halfway reading through that..

    • @Theocurrie
      @Theocurrie Před 2 lety +6

      It must be detuned, because in my BMW with the same engine it’s producing 620nm of torque.

    • @xxxxxtrxxx13
      @xxxxxtrxxx13 Před 2 lety +17

      @@Theocurrie Exactly, it's tuned for offroad use, which favours low-end torque and high reliability, but of course with a ECU remap you can get to your numbers easily

    • @ianblair9752
      @ianblair9752 Před 2 lety +2

      @@xxxxxtrxxx13 according to Ineos BMW have tuned the straight 6 to lose HP to gain torque for the off road ability so not sure if the figures quoted here are correct. czcams.com/video/vZFk1qJDWlk/video.html

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      @saimamerzougui7981 Před 2 lety

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  • @richardstamper5630
    @richardstamper5630 Před 2 lety +102

    I can understand why LR would want to take them to court for copyright but as far as I know, copyright only lasts 25 years. I suspect LR are pissed off because they discontinued their own Defender and perhaps wished they had of made this. This Grenadier looks like it will become a real commercial truck and not something for the city.

    • @bassmanjura
      @bassmanjura Před 2 lety +9

      I heard that part of that sue was a study, in which they were presenting a silhouette of the Grenadier and asking people what car is on the picture and most of them replied simply a jeep :)

    • @seanmoran7517
      @seanmoran7517 Před 2 lety +13

      Highly doubt that since the new Defender is selling like hotcakes.

    • @mrpete1972
      @mrpete1972 Před 2 lety +23

      The EU emissions killed off the old defender, land rover should have kept the shell and upgraded the engine. Instead they've given us a chunky range rover. Ineos will kill off the new defender.

    • @mildmanneredthinkingman9323
      @mildmanneredthinkingman9323 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mrpete1972 I wonder if crash tests were a factor too? I love the old style Defender more though definitely.

    • @Offensivebeast
      @Offensivebeast Před 2 lety +15

      @@mrpete1972 this won’t kill off the new defender, the new defender is better in nearly every way, and it’s starting price is even cheaper, you also have a lot more options when it comes to engines etc, You get more vehicle for your money along with the name of a icon.

  • @adamfletcher4262
    @adamfletcher4262 Před 2 lety

    That is just awesome ! 2 engine choices both inline 6 😍 perfection

  • @NotsoOof
    @NotsoOof Před rokem +2

    I got to see one at a local festival, that I did Security at, the first thing i said when i saw it was that looks like an older defender and would love to get one and mod it like a proper defender. I got to see one of the non-runner versions and could see how early it was since a lot of the buttons where either from other vehicles or where 3d printed and had no markings. Would love to actually love to see one in the wild and have a go in one.

  • @mnzulhamsyah
    @mnzulhamsyah Před 2 lety +5

    I can't believe the idling engine low bass sound got recorded. Nice one!

  • @IfInDoubt..
    @IfInDoubt.. Před 2 lety +18

    That creaking steering column would do my head in

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw Před 2 lety +3

      Hopefully that’s just because it’s a prototype vehicle.

    • @IfInDoubt..
      @IfInDoubt.. Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jabber-ig3iw I assume so

    • @eliotmansfield
      @eliotmansfield Před 2 lety +1

      At least you know they have copied a landrover in every detail

    • @KOL630
      @KOL630 Před 2 lety

      @@eliotmansfield underrated comment😂😂

  • @mariusHGV2
    @mariusHGV2 Před 2 lety +2

    I can see MattWatson so exited about this vehicle, I know what you want for next Christmas 🤣 very nice car

  • @kerongranger2229
    @kerongranger2229 Před 2 lety +2

    Really nice review. Would love to see Doug review this.

  • @jacovandenberg6923
    @jacovandenberg6923 Před 2 lety +26

    I'm so excited for this car. Seems a bit counterintuitive to not have mechanical dials for speedo and rev counter, considering the car is built with simplicity and reliability in mind. Would also be interested to see if there is space to fit additional fuel and water tanks.

  • @harvardford8752
    @harvardford8752 Před 2 lety +4

    will this be available in Canada? Were still under the rulership of the royal family so
    I THINK WE DESERVE THE PRIVILEGE OF PURCHASING SUCH A MACHINE

  • @mikeclark4416
    @mikeclark4416 Před rokem

    Saw two at Alesford Show -Loved it

  • @tallnrough68
    @tallnrough68 Před 2 lety

    Cool looking, I like it. I like the outside mounting rails 👍👍

  • @nathanb2100
    @nathanb2100 Před 2 lety +11

    Niceee 😃👍. It's nice to see a new properly off-road style 4X4 among all of these expensive, luxury SUVs (although I do like some of these like the new Defender in 🙂👍).

  • @MrTomwinter
    @MrTomwinter Před 2 lety +3

    The split rear is a Toyota 70 series item from the 1980's. Still an impressive vehicle, my only concern is that the cooling pack at the front drops below the bumper. It looks very prown to being damaged or clogged with mud.

  • @robertcook2572
    @robertcook2572 Před 2 lety +2

    Bloody love that centre console

  • @johntoner2212
    @johntoner2212 Před 2 lety +1

    I love it! As a Defender owner (x2 Perentie) I will definitely give a Grenider driver a wave.

  • @chrishb7074
    @chrishb7074 Před 2 lety +6

    With ten year old Defenders fetching £40k and new ones about double that, it’s market appeal is assured.
    Unlike Land Rover, who rely upon their image and brand from their past, success will depend more on the leasing cost, reliability and the service network than on the car itself.

  • @HeresTheGenZFlorentineFolks.

    Its axles are made by Carraro, an Italian leading company talking about axles! They work with names such as John Deere and Claas!

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, tractors. Not the same thing at all.

  • @gopmario
    @gopmario Před 2 lety

    I’m looking forward to seeing a trail review with this thing loaded down with gear. I’m really impressed with this rig so far.

  • @DavesIneosGrenadier
    @DavesIneosGrenadier Před 2 lety

    I have just configured mine with a bull bar and checker plates on the front wings. Solid blue, white roof, 18" steelies with BF Goodrich tyres. base seats and rubber floor covering. Can't wait for them to arrive down here n Sunny Queensland Australia

  • @CarThought
    @CarThought Před 2 lety +5

    This is a rival for a G-wagon not an original defender, I can’t see many farmers splashing out £48000 for the base model grenadier. The original defender became obsolete for its target market: farmers! Farmers mostly moved to Japanese vehicles as they’re far cheaper and more reliable.

  • @EN12345
    @EN12345 Před 2 lety +20

    I've been waiting for the Grenadier for several years now and in that time the price has doubled! As a farmer, Ineos must be dreaming if they think we will pay £53k starting price. Maybe a wealthy land owner would buy it, although they would probably get a Range Rover instead. Therefore I'm not sure who this is for. Maybe townies with large incomes who want to play at off roading at the weekend? Although why not just buy the more luxurious new Defender. I would buy this but it would have to be closer to the original price.

    • @Darkest_matter
      @Darkest_matter Před 2 lety +5

      That price is ludacris. Should be £25K topps

    • @brayvdb2191
      @brayvdb2191 Před 2 lety

      They'd indeed make more profit if they price it lower and sell more instead of pricing like its a luxury car and only sell to the wealthy

    • @warrenhulme1193
      @warrenhulme1193 Před 2 lety +2

      For that kind of money I could have a ground up rebuild on my defender and still have change!

    • @ianworley8169
      @ianworley8169 Před 2 lety +6

      @@warrenhulme1193 And it would still leak like a sieve, rattle and creak, be unbearably noisy, pollute like a tractor and have switch gear, seals, wipers, gauges and so much more, based on 70s British Leyland parts bins. I've had my Defender, from new since 2001and driven it 95,000 miles, mainly off-road. I've lost count of the parts I've replaced, many, many, more than once. New locks all around, that I can still open with a screwdriver. Don't talk such tosh about restoration being better than the Grenadier. This thing is an absolute thing of beauty and you're delusional if you think any rebuilt Defender comes anywhere near. This is the Defender, Landrover should have built, fit for the 21st Century.

    • @johnratcliffe6438
      @johnratcliffe6438 Před 2 lety

      @@Darkest_matter Behave. A Ford Fiesta costs more than that.

  • @thepretenda
    @thepretenda Před rokem

    I'm absolutely motivated from watching this!!

  • @FilmingAustralia1623
    @FilmingAustralia1623 Před 2 lety

    More Offroading Please Matt Great fun to watch

  • @gaia9394
    @gaia9394 Před 2 lety +23

    Mat mate.. you deserve more than this.. really a good real review and you’re so natural and informative at it. really really well done! finally there’s somebody come up with the company where we can custom our very own truck! This is next future classic! I want one 🔥

    • @Kronos0999
      @Kronos0999 Před 2 lety +7

      He's a millionaire within 4 years, drives expensive cars for free long term loaners, what more does he deserve?

    • @CarThought
      @CarThought Před 2 lety +1

      Think he’s doing ok. Carwow is now the largest automotive CZcams channel in the world 🤣

    • @hahaha-mj7oe
      @hahaha-mj7oe Před 2 lety

      @@CarThought top gear?? chrisfix??

    • @CarThought
      @CarThought Před 2 lety +1

      @@hahaha-mj7oe both are dwarfed by carwow viewing figures. They may currently have more subscribers but are far behind for monthly views.
      For example last month Chris fix had 17.4 million views, top gear 22.6 million… Car Wow 61.175 million 😂

    • @Kronos0999
      @Kronos0999 Před 2 lety

      @@hahaha-mj7oe Lol, top gear. Lolololololololol, that bitter, lying ChrisFix.

  • @martinharris8645
    @martinharris8645 Před 2 lety +66

    For a review that considers the prototype of this vehicle from the perspective of a serious off-roader, have a look at AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV. His review identifies several potential shortcomings, including ground clearance, protruding steering damper, ramp over angle and woeful fuel capacity (for touring). Hopefully there are solutions in the pipeline.

    • @victorkreig6089
      @victorkreig6089 Před 2 lety

      But all of those things were some of the(many) flaws that the defender has always had so its completely on brand

  • @davepiotrowski1992
    @davepiotrowski1992 Před 2 lety

    Yes, great stuff!! A split tailgate, Land rover should have had this as a option. So handy and beneficial. 😀

  • @nikolasbee009
    @nikolasbee009 Před 2 lety +1

    the split tailgate is brilliant!

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 Před 2 lety +35

    Split seat should line up with the mini door on the rear. So it can be dropped for long poles, etc.

    • @samuelharris2473
      @samuelharris2473 Před 2 lety

      Why would you put a long pole through a small door?

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Před 2 lety

      @@samuelharris2473 6 foot fence post that farmers use. Might not fit in so leave the small door open. I suppose could fit in diagonally.

    • @TheUkdan02
      @TheUkdan02 Před 2 lety

      @@flybobbie1449 Or you could just put the other seats down...

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Před 2 lety

      @@TheUkdan02 not if you wanted 4 on board.

  • @ranjanaluwihare1511
    @ranjanaluwihare1511 Před 2 lety +11

    Brilliant! A sensible 21st Century 4x4 car manufacturer for once! Would love one!

  • @gentlemanzackp6591
    @gentlemanzackp6591 Před 2 lety

    I do like this a LOT
    greetings from the US

  • @spaceman6215
    @spaceman6215 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey look! Its what everybody wanted the New defender to be! That new rear door is the answer to our biggest problem with the old one, pulling cattle trailer the door makes such a small gap with the spare tyre on. But everything else is exactly what's needed!

  • @alexwong553
    @alexwong553 Před 2 lety +3

    Love this rig, wish they sell in Canada!

  • @simonbanks3112
    @simonbanks3112 Před 2 lety +21

    For the production models, I hope that 'bong' isn't as persistent as it was in the prototype! And I assume they'll stop the steering wheel from creaking too!

    • @pablotharpalo5685
      @pablotharpalo5685 Před 2 lety

      That noise nearly drove me crazy. I had to fast forward through the parts with it

  • @D4D22
    @D4D22 Před rokem

    The first car I’ve truly wanted in ages. Looks like a car you could keep for the rest of your life.

  • @tapiwa_mavende
    @tapiwa_mavende Před 2 lety +1

    I love this thing, I've been waiting to see it.

  • @thibaultD1
    @thibaultD1 Před 2 lety +7

    Amazing off-roader 👌🏽 they did an incredible job!
    It will definitely be a big seller when it comes out, and I'm sure many Landrover drivers will purchase it.
    But i swear if i only hear one more time that "biep biep" like BMW's also have i will get crazy!! 🙈

    • @pinnedmegyn4689
      @pinnedmegyn4689 Před 2 lety

      ◾️ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛɪɴɢ ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴘᴇᴛᴇʀ ᴍᴇᴋʟɪsʜ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs.

  • @Simon_Rafferty
    @Simon_Rafferty Před 2 lety +6

    Any of you who know me, know I've been a lifelong Land Rover fan. I almost cried when I saw the new Defender - not one bit what I'd hoped for.
    When I first saw the Grenadier - I wasn't that enthused, though it was a lot better than the new Defender. However, it has grown on me! Even I'm surprised how much. I have a Range Rover Sport for long journies and until recently a 110 Doublecab for anything dirty. I really wanted something like the 110 for practicality but with the ride quality and creature comforts (simple things like cup holders!) of the Range Rover (which is still gorgious to drive).
    It looks a lot like a G-Wagon to me too. That of course was another option, but they are just too expensive to be practical. I'd rather have a top end Range Rover for the money.
    The Grenadier looks like it might fit both roles (and it even has cup holders! ;-) ). High probability I'll be driving one eventually.

  • @matthewtayloresquire
    @matthewtayloresquire Před 4 měsíci

    The 1990 Izuzu Trooper had the same tailgate. It's a nice design and very handy as you pointed out!

  • @Alexsheward
    @Alexsheward Před rokem

    Seen a prototype one of these was very cool great build

  • @VickersDoorter
    @VickersDoorter Před 2 lety +12

    I have the new Defender P300 and having had a 1998 Defender 90 for 12 years, the new one wins hands down. I can certainly report that the air suspension really excels in the wild outback areas of Henley-on-Thames towards Nettlebed.

    • @yanni2737
      @yanni2737 Před rokem

      😁😁😁😁

    • @LMAO2510
      @LMAO2510 Před 10 měsíci

      I should think is does for £80,000

  • @DSrealestate-narangba
    @DSrealestate-narangba Před 2 lety +16

    I had a ride in an early prototype here in Queensland in mid Jan, I was impressed, and seeing a more close to production vehicle, the order will be going in. As an overlander accross Australia, I think this will be brilliant,

    • @harrywalker5836
      @harrywalker5836 Před 2 lety

      save your money,or what,? 90k.. +.. after fitting it out. get your self an olde but goodi.. gu nissan, or 80 series. only 2 4x4rs worth buying. preferably the nissan. remember this,, you sht 1 sensor, wet,burned out,,out in the desert,,you die..i have a 2002 ford f250 s/duty. no computer, no glow plugs, 4.2tdi, bigger turbo 700nm. 12.5 lt 100. 35' tires 3' lift. nothing compares. cab chassis, 2.9mtrs of tray. turns better than a 79 series, cheaper more economical, .land rover,is still land rover. destined to break..cost me 25k, done 170 ks. in 4 yrs, only replaced the hubs. $400. bolt off, bolt on. 4 bolts. replaced the drum diff with a disc rear, from a 5.4, $500. fitted drilled slotted rotora, ceramic pads, my choice, not needed. 3 air tanks, ex fire extinguishers, to a big 300 lt compressor, NOT, arb rubbish. removable winch, hitch front & rear. all gear & sleep in back. total cost, 28k..

    • @antwbrown
      @antwbrown Před 2 lety

      Hard to find BMW parts in the outback. The BMW engine and gearbox give me pause although I love the idea of the car. We’ve got an old 99 defender and it’s relatively hard to find parts in remote Aus compared to say Toyota parts.

    • @DSrealestate-narangba
      @DSrealestate-narangba Před 2 lety +1

      @@antwbrown funny enough after some considerable thought, we will probably end up with a 300 series and add ARB accessories and lockers.

    • @antwbrown
      @antwbrown Před 2 lety +1

      @@DSrealestate-narangba Good choice! Love the 300 series, bullet proof. And you'll be glad when looking for radiator hoses/wheel bearings out the back of Bourke. Good luck on your travels!

    • @bradsmckay
      @bradsmckay Před 10 měsíci

      @@antwbrown the Ineos actually has an Allison transmission not BMW, as for the engine I would've gone with either Mercedes or Iveco

  • @pocketfella5176
    @pocketfella5176 Před 2 lety +2

    Britain at its best sad that our homemade vehicles are thin on the ground. The only problem I think the demand will be so high will they be able to manufacture enough, great for heavy industrial use and difficult territory like Australia ,Middle East, Africa fantastic vehicle at a good price I would buy one in a flash

  • @pj4433
    @pj4433 Před 2 lety +1

    Love it. Would definitely buy one

  • @DavesIneosGrenadier
    @DavesIneosGrenadier Před 2 lety +4

    I am in Australia and planning to purchase one of these when they are released here in September. Provided they drive well on the road. So far I have seen many many reviews offroad and have no doubts about their capabilities but not a single review of how they drive on motorways, dirt/gravel roads and B roads.

    • @Venciferus
      @Venciferus Před 2 lety +2

      These are gonna sell like hotcakes in Australia. Way better than a 70 series cruiser

    • @Yimello
      @Yimello Před 5 měsíci

      Of course it doesn't drive well on the road, not that any ladder frame chassis off roader does. The steering is also awful and doesn't self centre.

    • @DavesIneosGrenadier
      @DavesIneosGrenadier Před 5 měsíci

      @@Yimello It does drive extremely well on the road. Surprisingly good. Motorway, highway, back country road or old gravel road. It just eats them up

  • @jasonb4988
    @jasonb4988 Před 2 lety +3

    Absolutely fantastic execution and can’t wait to see it and drive it !

  • @cecilwilson5442
    @cecilwilson5442 Před 2 lety

    Nissan patrol had the rear door split like that 30 years ago,, but what a great vehicle and with the best of components to build it absolutely fantastic,, hope it is a success, ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland

  • @RX8bully
    @RX8bully Před 2 lety +1

    It's such a beautiful and practical car

  • @YounesLayachi
    @YounesLayachi Před 2 lety +12

    15:32 that big ridge in the cargo space instead of a flush floor, is to keep water and liquids out, even during deceleration or steep descent.

  • @sxhrgvs
    @sxhrgvs Před 2 lety +5

    Brilliant video. What a great vehicle. Well done Ineos. A real off-roader, none of this lifestyle nonsense. 👏

  • @Larmagauche
    @Larmagauche Před 2 lety +2

    French plant switching from making Smart Fortwo to this is surprising but must be fun for the employees.

  • @Howiedewitt123
    @Howiedewitt123 Před 2 lety

    I think Mat had fun more in this than the new defender! That’s the fun off driving without too many sophistications

  • @ciaranburke3243
    @ciaranburke3243 Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent machine as a prototype matt , nice choice of engine's although if it's 48 grand upwards that's where it falls down ☹

  • @wreak3r
    @wreak3r Před 2 lety +4

    This truck is a BMW Land Rover Defender (before and after BMW owning Land Rover) made in the same factory as Mercedes trucks. Wild.

  • @panoshountis1516
    @panoshountis1516 Před 2 lety +1

    Cool piece of kit!

  • @watchesandcaps2566
    @watchesandcaps2566 Před 11 měsíci

    I just configured mine and put a pre-order in yesterday. Have to wait now for INEOS to finalize their dealer network in the US.

  • @andrewjones-productions
    @andrewjones-productions Před 2 lety +5

    The Isuzu Bighorn (I forgot the UK name) also had a split tailgate like the Grenadier.

  • @chrisstrider
    @chrisstrider Před 2 lety +4

    Reminds me of my 90s Shogun
    Seen years of prototypes from INEOS but will it ever be produced for the school run ?

  • @royalad
    @royalad Před 2 lety +1

    Good job 👍 I already booked one 😊

  • @ingvarkristjansson766
    @ingvarkristjansson766 Před 2 lety

    I just love this off roader

  • @harleyrobertson6746
    @harleyrobertson6746 Před 2 lety +40

    I pray that the colour combos that we've seen on these preproduction models will be used on the production model. And this only weighs 500kg more than the old defender 110, but that's only safety equipment, so it's not that bad

    • @dexterrr9163
      @dexterrr9163 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah these prototype colors looks very good

    • @harleyrobertson6746
      @harleyrobertson6746 Před 2 lety +16

      Fucking hate these spam bots

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 2 lety

      Try carrying 10 of 50kg bags of ballast on your back to see what it really means. Or more sensibly, carry ten 50kg bags of anything [yes they are still available] from one place to another, 100 metres apart.

    • @harleyrobertson6746
      @harleyrobertson6746 Před 2 lety

      @@hedydd2 it's a fucking car, 500kg is nothing for it. Half a ton is too much for anyone but a utility vehicle like this is easy

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 2 lety +4

      @@harleyrobertson6746
      That’s a massive amount of extra weight as I illustrated. It effects everything from handling to fuel economy to the performance on and off road to the amount of payload it can carry while also towing, to the class of MOT inspection it has, to its speed limits on certain roads as a commercial vehicle in many countries.

  • @PauloHeaven
    @PauloHeaven Před 2 lety +15

    I quite like this truck, it's a real good idea to fill the gap left by the old Defender. The demand was indeed strong. I'm surprised there's no V8 option, I thought it should retain BMW's 4.4. I hope the beeping and grinding noise when turning the wheel will be gone on production examples 😂

    • @dragonpnut76
      @dragonpnut76 Před 2 lety +3

      I'm hopeing when they tap into the north American market a LS might appear. Ticks all the boxes. Cheap , plentiful, parts everyware. And easy to work on.

    • @overlandi5056
      @overlandi5056 Před 2 lety +3

      Yep. The 4.4 V8 from the D3 would be an amazing engine in the Ineos.

  • @mikeclark4416
    @mikeclark4416 Před rokem

    I got to sit in one at the Alesford Show -Beautiful .

  • @keafy1000
    @keafy1000 Před rokem

    Nicely mix-up

  • @robsmall6466
    @robsmall6466 Před 2 lety +4

    If Land Rover won't make cars like this anymore then I can't blame this company and vehicle for filling the gap. Time will tell if it's as good as what it inspires to be

  • @Dave-in-France
    @Dave-in-France Před 2 lety +5

    Loved this Mat, really good overall intro to this vehicle and the price seems to be fair for such a 'proper' vehicle. Just hope the chassis truly is fully rust-proofed ???

    • @ToolboxBen
      @ToolboxBen Před 2 lety +3

      Yep it is - the chassis is all galvanised steel as standard, straight from the factory 👍

  • @highrider9168
    @highrider9168 Před 10 měsíci

    Im 100% buying one.
    Its going to be my new photography rig.
    Tons of roof room sleeping room and itll go anywhere i need.

  • @amoghavarshamurthy
    @amoghavarshamurthy Před 2 lety +1

    Good to see Henry catchpole in the background there

  • @icram45
    @icram45 Před 2 lety +7

    Only the prototypes were built at Magna-Steyr plant in Austria (where the G-Class is built), the mass production will be in France.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz Před 2 lety

      True, but as he "was sat" in a prototype, the car he was in probably was built in Graz.

    • @pinzgauerbelgium
      @pinzgauerbelgium Před 2 lety

      They used to build better cars in Graz than this...like the Pinzgauer. 👍

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz Před 2 lety +1

      @@pinzgauerbelgium :-D The Pinzgauer is arguably worse as a car, but better offroad than anything anyone builds at the moment. (maybe apart from tanks and some Unimog Variants)

  • @AMV12S
    @AMV12S Před 2 lety +19

    What an amazing car! 😱
    This is the true Defender successor.

    • @soerenbo
      @soerenbo Před 2 lety +3

      You mean this is the true defender copy... they basically didn't improve anything (besides a more modern interior) and just took what was already good from the original. It's honestly almost too close to be legal.

    • @calvinschultink8452
      @calvinschultink8452 Před 2 lety

      @@soerenbo no, this is completely innacurate. It's a completely different car, despite looking somewhat similar. Different chassis, different design/production processes, completely different powertrain. There's literally nothing the same except the basic exterior design and the broad ethos.

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 Před 2 lety

      @@calvinschultink8452
      It’s a bit of a 20th Century Dinosaur really. A non-identical twin to the 1984 Land Rover One-Ten that has been to the gym to work-out and build up it’s muscles. It does compete directly, in its current form, with the current Defender. I wonder what commercial advantage it is thought to have over the current Defender?

    • @AMV12S
      @AMV12S Před 2 lety

      @@calvinschultink8452 I only think they shouldn't used the BMW powertrain...
      Cummins ISB4.5 and Ford Godzilla would be an better choice.

    • @calvinschultink8452
      @calvinschultink8452 Před 2 lety

      @@AMV12S I think it's a wait and see situation, but I understand the concern. I think maybe they recognise the world has changed, and are attempting to adapt within reason. They are putting a lot of faith in BMW reliability/roadside assist networks....

  • @centurionboards
    @centurionboards Před 10 měsíci

    Love this!

  • @nathanielcargile7135
    @nathanielcargile7135 Před 2 lety +1

    Another dream vehicle. I truly wish the diesel was coming to the US.