@@dianaparker4807 ,I agree! Trixi looked dowdy and had no charisma whatsoever. But she didn't make the rules, and she excelled in a sport which was different back then. Therefore she deserved her gold medal. And in a twisted way she was very influential. If there hadn't been that difference between her and skaters like Janet Lynn, the rules of figure skating might have changed slower.
I wish there were footage of her doing figures. Thanks for posting these 1970 ladies free skates; time to find out if Schuba's 7th in freeskating was even a gift.
There is. Search for 1972 Sapporo Figure Skating Highlights - Janet Lynn Trixie Schuba Karen Magnussen and Die Eismutter - 1967 Europeans - Schuba, Seyfert, Maskova, Jutta Muller.
She was in 1st place after figures placed 7th in the long program to finish in 2nd overall. Janet Lynn placed 8th in figures 2nd in the long program 6th place overall.
She was such a non graceful free skater. What a klutz. She was unbeatable in compulsory figures (which were eliminated in 1990). The compulsory figures are what won her the medals.
Trixi was probably the finest compulsory figure skater in history, and I think she had kind of a passion for them, or at least enjoyed becoming accomplished in them. Her free skating had a distinctly awkward appearance though, and one thing she lacked, whereas it was something Janet Lynn did that helped define the modern skating style, Trixi did not fully extend her free leg , including not even when reaching back for her toe jumps. The knee of her free leg was always a little bent, and her free leg was held too closely to the center of the body, as one might do in figures. Her forward crossovers didn't even look very good, like she's too much on top of her blades. (Ironic, since figures were supposed to give a person good edges.) But it was her lack of expression of the music, her inability to use her arms and upper body to make skating beautiful as Janet Lynn could do, or Peggy Fleming before Janet. That was a characteristic that instead of just placing her seven places behind in free skating, really put her in a different category of free skater. I saw firsthand that Trixi's presentation improved as a professional. She had a beautiful smile and learned how to establish eye contact with the audience well, and her skating had a smoothness, and even her position in the camel spin improved. However, her hands were still a little too flat most of the time, and she wasn't as fun to watch as a few of the lower paid principals in the show, who were far from Olympic gold medalists as amateurs. Were audiences in Europe and South America clamoring to see Trixi Schuba skate in a show after her 1972 Olympic victory? No! In South America, they didn't even know who she was for the most part. By starring Trixi, the show filled a slot, of being able to promote or bill having an "Olympic and World gold medalist..." and they could pay her a small fraction of the salary they paid Janet Lynn or Dorothy Hamill to skate with the show. In the 70s, after their final Olympic competitions, both Janet Lynn and Dorothy Hamill drew audiences in. People might go see an ice show just to see either of them skate, and sometimes travel 50 miles or more to do it. None of this was Trixi's fault, but if you were there at the time, loving skating and watching TV, wanting to see Janet Lynn do well, the Olympic outcome in figure skating was depressing, a letdown. It really hurt the excitement of it all having Trixi win because of figures. And so they devalued figures and years later, eliminated them from competition, which was like eliminating shooting from a biathlon competition, right? There was swift justice though, with Janet Lynn becoming the highest paid women's athlete of her time, and I thought that was just fantastic. She also inspired thousands to take up skating and occupies a great position in skating history. As an Olympic gold medalist, Trixi occupies a position in history, too. Still, it's just a little awkward.
I can understand that the audiences were upset about Trixi Schuba winning all competitions she entered because of her strong compulsory performances. Her free skates are completely boring to watch, and while she had an engaging smile, she had no charisma whatsoever! She also had no sense of style. She was not bad looking, but somehow she always looked dowdy with her stiff hair-dos and much older than she actually was. She also didn't have an athletic figure. She didn't need it for performing her absolutely perfect compulsory figures. Btw, most people don't even know anymore why figure skating is called figure skating in English. The origin of this term are the figures which had to be scratched into the ice! These figures were the origins of this beautiful sport, and the twirls, jumps and dancing elements were added later. Sonia Henie was one of the pioneers who transformed the sport into an art form. In German figure skating is called "Eiskunstlauf" - and that translates into "artistic skating". Anyway, the rules were the rules in the 1970s, and Trixi hadn't made them. It was almost as if she was competing in a different sport - and since she excelled in that sport, she certainly deserved her gold medal! I think we can say that Trixi Schuba was a very influential athlet because the contrast between her and and skaters like Janet Lynn eventually transformed figure skating forever. Unfortunately women's figure skating has again moved into the wrong direction: underweight teenage cookie cutter jumping wonders who rarely last longer than two seasons, win all the important competitions, and artistic expression has taken a back seat. It's time for another change of direction.
@@sabineb.5616 In spite of Eteri's many shortcomings, for me there has been no skater in my lifetime like Kostornaia. In her last junior year, well, I thought she was the best in the world then and so beautiful to watch. So there was that.
@@Timzart7 thanks for your answer 😀 You seem to be very knowledgeable. Kostornaia as well as a few other Etiri-girls do have undeniably tons of talent, and especially Kostornaia has a distinct and engaging personality and a huge potential for artistic expression. It’s a pity that she couldn't compete in Beijing. Unfortunately her career arc points downwards - as it is the case with most Eteri girls when they are older than 17 😞. And I would be very surprised if she will come back in a major way. As to Kostornaia's performances: while there is no doubt about her huge talent, I still think that the choreography of most of her programs is kind of generic and at least to me not as interesting as it could be. It's still obvious that she originated from the Eteri-stable. She really shines in some of her exhibitions. Personally I prefer the style of the Japanese ladies, who skate much cleaner, and they have a chance to grow up and mature. I have been a fan of figure skating for a few decades, and IMO this beautiful sport is not in a good shape right now - especially women's figure skating has turned into a circus and doesn't even deserve that name anymore. Like in gymnastics there are hardly any world class women anymore. It's a girl show😞 The importance of the increasingly difficult jumps makes it impossible for fully developed women to achieve top rankings, and the shelf life of the female skaters shrunk dramatically. And I won't talk here about the dirty underbelly of Eteri's methods. We got a glimps of this very recently! When I look back at the last few years, I have to say that these days I prefer the two pair skating events. Especially Aljona Savchenko has been a shining beacon of everything which can make figure skating so immensely enjoyable. She had an unusually long career which allowed her to mature as an athlet and as an artist. She took part in five Olympics!!! No other female skater had such a long career, and Aljona matured and became better and better. Her last long program with Bruno Massot at the 2018 Olympics was one of the best and most touching performances of all times. I realize of course that female pair skaters are under less pressure than single skaters. A great pair will not be abandoned or separated as long as they are successful. This allows them to mature and to have longer careers, and the audiences all over the world learn to know them, and they can engage with them. However, the Russian teenage girls burst onto the scene when they are 15 or 16 years old. Some of them are hugely talented, but they are gone within the blink of an eye because they cannot survive for long in the Eteri pressure cooker. And then they get replaced by an even younger crop of wonder kids. The casual figure skating fans cannot distinguish one from the other anymore, and they lose interest. Even the outfits of the girls and their hair-dos totally lack variety. The times where the individual appearance of a figure skater had an impact on the fashions of their times, are long gone. No more pixie cuts like Janet Lynn's or wedge cuts like Dorothy Hamill's. Take a look at the ladies who performed at the infamous figure skating event of the 1994 Olympics in Lillehammer. They are very different from each other. They have different looks, very different skating styles, and there is a wide age range. And one of my all--time favorites won the gold medal: the wonderful Oksana Baiul! She was an artist - a primaballerina on ice! It's a pity that she turned pro immediately after the Olympics, because of the lure of big money. If she had continued her competitve career, and if she had maintained her training discipline, she could have become a legend. Unfortunately she ended up being a trend setter for the bright and sparkling but short careers of teenage sensations. But Oksana had it all. It's still a joy to watch her programs.
@@sabineb.5616 We sure do have a lot of the same favorites, Oksana being one of mine also. I feel differently about her career though. I thought she timed going pro just right, and was pleased her professional career was lucrative. It was a rare opportunity for the dissolution of the Soviet Union to have occurred only a few years before, and for her to get out and to the US where she could make big money. People have different ideas about what killed skating, or made it worse anyway, like getting rid of figures, "amateur" competitors being allowed to earn money, the Harding incident, the judging system change, and most recently the quest for quads by girls and drugging Part Two, since drugging Part One probably began with Katarina Witt getting steroids. I felt strongly that figures should have been eliminated from competition starting in the 1930s or 40s. I felt passionately about that in the 60s and 70s, and no longer care about it. It's kind of like how I went from having a burning passion to be on the ice, long before I had a skating lesson or skated professionally, to not feeling that way at all about skating. It's pretty odd that given my aversion to figures, which I could never skate worth beans, incidentally, since I started training so late, my real life with intersect with knowing Trixi and also a recent world champion in fancy figures, whom I knew in Colorado Springs when he wasn't a figure nut, but just another skater wishing he could get a medal at US Nationals. He won an international competition, but highest at US Nationals was 4th. I agree, it wasn't Trixi's fault she was phenomenal at figures. She was just playing the game as it was at the time, and she won fair and square. So, turning the clock back to 1977, I'm not even sure I told Trixi my thoughts about figures, or that Janet Lynn was my favorite skater of all time (until Kostornaia). Trixi and I chatted maybe five or six times total. I never met Janet Lynn. Her asthma ended her professional career. I think she just wanted to have a family life at that time also. Pre-internet, I learned a lot about skaters like Emmerich Danzer or Ingrid Wendl. The latter was a news announcer on Austrian TV I saw regularly when I'd watch TV there. My coach would tell me these stories but I forgot most of them. Then just 15 years ago, I had a friend who skated in an adagio pair, in Sonja Henie's show. She told me all kinds of stories about that, but didn't really know the depth about Sonja's life as revealed in her biography.
Я тоже её помню, она была сильна в школе-- это был её конёк! здорово рисовала фигуры и на этом этапе был большой разрыв с соперницами в её пользу, никто не мог её победить!
Clearly the smartest skater of the time period....why not focus on figures if it was 60% of the score AND the score ranges were never over 5.0 so winning figures was a double whammy over everyone else.....well played by Trixie.
She is still an Olympic champion and no one can ever take that away from her, but I wonder what she thinks about the fact that the rules were changed because people were outraged that such a weak skater won. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
This is a better program and a better performance than what is seen in the only other full-length footage of Schuba that is easily accessible: her showing at the 1972 European Championships, which is marred by sloppy execution and an almost lackadaisical attention to choreography. In fact, to those of us whose only familiarity with Trixie is through the harsh criticism usually levied against her free skating, this clip is revelatory. It shows her to be competent, technically sound, and even a pleasant -- if somewhat unispired -- performer. As others have mentioned, her flow, edging, and stroking are quite good (as might be expected of one so accomplished in figures) and, while the jumps aren't powerful, they are clean and neatly executed.
It's sad they counted at all. They should have been eliminated from competition in the 1930s, or put in a separate competition, which would have died because of lack of audience. However, Trixi winning gold in the 1972 Olympics was instrumental in figures being devalued.
Trixie may not have been able to hold a candle to Janet Lynn's free skating but, Janet - as she has repeatedly stated herself - couldn't hold a candle to Trixie's figures. No one could. Figures may seem superfluous, boring, and simplistic today but, until 1972 they counted 60% of the overall score. Trixie won fair and square according to the rules of the time, and despite her shortcomings as a free-skater when compared to Fleming, Lynn, etc., she still deserves accolades as probably the finest figure skater in the history of the sport.
For all the grief figure skating gets these days most of the modern ladies make skaters from way back look pretty unskilled and yes I mean artistically as well. I see skaters that come from non-traditional countries such as those from middle-eastern countries that still look more polished than this.
You need to remember that back then skaters spent hours and hours each week literally going round in circles doing compulsory figures. So they didn't spend as much time practicing free skating. Plus, in jump technique if you look at footage from before the mid 1970's you'll see that most skaters - both male and female - used to jump with their feet jammed together or with their free leg hanging at the side. In the mid 1970's we all started to cross our feet when jumping which made us all more aerodynamic and able to jump better. So yes if you look at today's skaters compared to skaters before the mid 1970's, the old skaters look unskilled. You really notice the difference after the 1976 Olympics, especially in the ladies. Compare Trixie Schuba here in 1970 with say Denise Bielmann or Elena Voderezova just 7 or 8 years later.
Trixi does sort of a half-layback for a few turns in a combination spin, the kind of position you might see a young girl do when first learning the spin. Sometimes skaters do not have the flexibility in the back to do laybacks, or they injure themselves doing them. I never saw Trixi do a good layback spin but it's possible she injured herself when she was young on them, and just had to do a little one.
@@janemariecox6547 Nah, Tonya's layback was nothing to write home about. I don't like laybacks where one of the shoulders is sticking up. Katarina Witt did the ugliest of any top skater though. However, in the following video, you can see Tonya's deep edges, her speed, and a great flying spin, in addition to her triple axel. When she was at her best, she could be great, and skate with the speed and abandon which can make a performance thrilling. I was very happy for her when she won US Nationals, because I knew she came from a poor background and had a crazy mother. czcams.com/video/WOP3Dj0DraQ/video.html Since the recent points system demands that skaters can't just do a long layback spin, but must change positions two more times or whatever, these aren't the best examples. Still, you can see that nearly all of them, when they are doing the layback, they get in a position where both shoulders are back. Some of them are amazing: czcams.com/video/Wxk0dFOx8yc/video.html
Sie läuft, als hätte sie einen Stock verschluckt. Unglaublich, dass man mit diesem Laufstil Olympiasieger im Eiskunstlauf werden konnte. Die Betonung liegt auf Kunst. Es sieht einfach schrecklich aus.
No double axel or even a double loop. Most jarring is she doesn't point her free foot or turn out her free hip. She doesn't even have the dance-like edges she had in 1968. Her free skating got worse and worse
Part of that is she got bigger which I think was her just growing into her natural body type which was really too big for a skater. By 1972 her skating was actually a lot worse than this still (and she was even bigger). When she was doing Holiday on Ice she was so much thinner and her skating was better, but it looked like she almost had to starve herself given her natural body type.
Very nice skate apart from the fall. I am impressed. Surprisingly good from Trixi in free skating, loads better than her crappy 72 europeans skate that is online.
@@dianaparker4807 I agree, but still relative to the skates I saw from her in 72 this is a big improvement. Don't believe me, look them up. Her success was only due to her amazing figures dominance though, everyone knows that.
There's a new video of her at Europeans in 1968 and she does one double axel. She was smaller then and more slender so probably gave it up once she grew.
![[HD] Viktor Petrenko - 1992 Albertville Olympic - Free Skating](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kptoQhorq4Q/mqdefault.jpg)
The commentator is the 1948 Olympic runner-up and 1949 European Champion Eva Pawlik who was the world’s first lady to be a sportscaster on TV.
The commentator is the 1948 Olympic Silver Medalist Eva Pawlik. Pawlik was the world's first female TV sportscaster.
The sport changed because of Trixi winning the gold medal in Sapporo in 1972. The next year, the short program came in.
Trixi had zero grace.
@@dianaparker4807 ,I agree! Trixi looked dowdy and had no charisma whatsoever. But she didn't make the rules, and she excelled in a sport which was different back then. Therefore she deserved her gold medal. And in a twisted way she was very influential. If there hadn't been that difference between her and skaters like Janet Lynn, the rules of figure skating might have changed slower.
I wish there were footage of her doing figures. Thanks for posting these 1970 ladies free skates; time to find out if Schuba's 7th in freeskating was even a gift.
There is. Search for 1972 Sapporo Figure Skating Highlights - Janet Lynn Trixie Schuba Karen Magnussen and Die Eismutter - 1967 Europeans - Schuba, Seyfert, Maskova, Jutta Muller.
She was in 1st place after figures placed 7th in the long program to finish in 2nd overall. Janet Lynn placed 8th in figures 2nd in the long program 6th place overall.
such a travesty!! these school figures should have been abolished
Oh god, those awkward arms. This is like a Novice level performance nowadays.
but at least she looks like a woman and not like a kid
She was such a non graceful free skater. What a klutz. She was unbeatable in compulsory figures (which were eliminated in 1990). The compulsory figures are what won her the medals.
Trixi was probably the finest compulsory figure skater in history, and I think she had kind of a passion for them, or at least enjoyed becoming accomplished in them.
Her free skating had a distinctly awkward appearance though, and one thing she lacked, whereas it was something Janet Lynn did that helped define the modern skating style, Trixi did not fully extend her free leg , including not even when reaching back for her toe jumps. The knee of her free leg was always a little bent, and her free leg was held too closely to the center of the body, as one might do in figures.
Her forward crossovers didn't even look very good, like she's too much on top of her blades. (Ironic, since figures were supposed to give a person good edges.) But it was her lack of expression of the music, her inability to use her arms and upper body to make skating beautiful as Janet Lynn could do, or Peggy Fleming before Janet. That was a characteristic that instead of just placing her seven places behind in free skating, really put her in a different category of free skater.
I saw firsthand that Trixi's presentation improved as a professional. She had a beautiful smile and learned how to establish eye contact with the audience well, and her skating had a smoothness, and even her position in the camel spin improved. However, her hands were still a little too flat most of the time, and she wasn't as fun to watch as a few of the lower paid principals in the show, who were far from Olympic gold medalists as amateurs.
Were audiences in Europe and South America clamoring to see Trixi Schuba skate in a show after her 1972 Olympic victory? No! In South America, they didn't even know who she was for the most part. By starring Trixi, the show filled a slot, of being able to promote or bill having an "Olympic and World gold medalist..." and they could pay her a small fraction of the salary they paid Janet Lynn or Dorothy Hamill to skate with the show.
In the 70s, after their final Olympic competitions, both Janet Lynn and Dorothy Hamill drew audiences in. People might go see an ice show just to see either of them skate, and sometimes travel 50 miles or more to do it.
None of this was Trixi's fault, but if you were there at the time, loving skating and watching TV, wanting to see Janet Lynn do well, the Olympic outcome in figure skating was depressing, a letdown. It really hurt the excitement of it all having Trixi win because of figures. And so they devalued figures and years later, eliminated them from competition, which was like eliminating shooting from a biathlon competition, right?
There was swift justice though, with Janet Lynn becoming the highest paid women's athlete of her time, and I thought that was just fantastic. She also inspired thousands to take up skating and occupies a great position in skating history. As an Olympic gold medalist, Trixi occupies a position in history, too. Still, it's just a little awkward.
Interesting insight. Impressed that you saw Schuba as a professional. Good skating history. Thanks for your comment.
I can understand that the audiences were upset about Trixi Schuba winning all competitions she entered because of her strong compulsory performances. Her free skates are completely boring to watch, and while she had an engaging smile, she had no charisma whatsoever! She also had no sense of style. She was not bad looking, but somehow she always looked dowdy with her stiff hair-dos and much older than she actually was. She also didn't have an athletic figure. She didn't need it for performing her absolutely perfect compulsory figures.
Btw, most people don't even know anymore why figure skating is called figure skating in English. The origin of this term are the figures which had to be scratched into the ice! These figures were the origins of this beautiful sport, and the twirls, jumps and dancing elements were added later. Sonia Henie was one of the pioneers who transformed the sport into an art form. In German figure skating is called "Eiskunstlauf" - and that translates into "artistic skating".
Anyway, the rules were the rules in the 1970s, and Trixi hadn't made them. It was almost as if she was competing in a different sport - and since she excelled in that sport, she certainly deserved her gold medal!
I think we can say that Trixi Schuba was a very influential athlet because the contrast between her and and skaters like Janet Lynn eventually transformed figure skating forever.
Unfortunately women's figure skating has again moved into the wrong direction: underweight teenage cookie cutter jumping wonders who rarely last longer than two seasons, win all the important competitions, and artistic expression has taken a back seat. It's time for another change of direction.
@@sabineb.5616 In spite of Eteri's many shortcomings, for me there has been no skater in my lifetime like Kostornaia. In her last junior year, well, I thought she was the best in the world then and so beautiful to watch. So there was that.
@@Timzart7 thanks for your answer 😀 You seem to be very knowledgeable.
Kostornaia as well as a few other Etiri-girls do have undeniably tons of talent, and especially Kostornaia has a distinct and engaging personality and a huge potential for artistic expression. It’s a pity that she couldn't compete in Beijing. Unfortunately her career arc points downwards - as it is the case with most Eteri girls when they are older than 17 😞. And I would be very surprised if she will come back in a major way.
As to Kostornaia's performances: while there is no doubt about her huge talent, I still think that the choreography of most of her programs is kind of generic and at least to me not as interesting as it could be. It's still obvious that she originated from the Eteri-stable. She really shines in some of her exhibitions. Personally I prefer the style of the Japanese ladies, who skate much cleaner, and they have a chance to grow up and mature.
I have been a fan of figure skating for a few decades, and IMO this beautiful sport is not in a good shape right now - especially women's figure skating has turned into a circus and doesn't even deserve that name anymore. Like in gymnastics there are hardly any world class women anymore. It's a girl show😞 The importance of the increasingly difficult jumps makes it impossible for fully developed women to achieve top rankings, and the shelf life of the female skaters shrunk dramatically. And I won't talk here about the dirty underbelly of Eteri's methods. We got a glimps of this very recently!
When I look back at the last few years, I have to say that these days I prefer the two pair skating events. Especially Aljona Savchenko has been a shining beacon of everything which can make figure skating so immensely enjoyable. She had an unusually long career which allowed her to mature as an athlet and as an artist. She took part in five Olympics!!! No other female skater had such a long career, and Aljona matured and became better and better. Her last long program with Bruno Massot at the 2018 Olympics was one of the best and most touching performances of all times.
I realize of course that female pair skaters are under less pressure than single skaters. A great pair will not be abandoned or separated as long as they are successful. This allows them to mature and to have longer careers, and the audiences all over the world learn to know them, and they can engage with them. However, the Russian teenage girls burst onto the scene when they are 15 or 16 years old. Some of them are hugely talented, but they are gone within the blink of an eye because they cannot survive for long in the Eteri pressure cooker. And then they get replaced by an even younger crop of wonder kids. The casual figure skating fans cannot distinguish one from the other anymore, and they lose interest. Even the outfits of the girls and their hair-dos totally lack variety. The times where the individual appearance of a figure skater had an impact on the fashions of their times, are long gone. No more pixie cuts like Janet Lynn's or wedge cuts like Dorothy Hamill's. Take a look at the ladies who performed at the infamous figure skating event of the 1994 Olympics in Lillehammer. They are very different from each other. They have different looks, very different skating styles, and there is a wide age range. And one of my all--time favorites won the gold medal: the wonderful Oksana Baiul! She was an artist - a primaballerina on ice! It's a pity that she turned pro immediately after the Olympics, because of the lure of big money. If she had continued her competitve career, and if she had maintained her training discipline, she could have become a legend. Unfortunately she ended up being a trend setter for the bright and sparkling but short careers of teenage sensations. But Oksana had it all. It's still a joy to watch her programs.
@@sabineb.5616 We sure do have a lot of the same favorites, Oksana being one of mine also. I feel differently about her career though. I thought she timed going pro just right, and was pleased her professional career was lucrative. It was a rare opportunity for the dissolution of the Soviet Union to have occurred only a few years before, and for her to get out and to the US where she could make big money.
People have different ideas about what killed skating, or made it worse anyway, like getting rid of figures, "amateur" competitors being allowed to earn money, the Harding incident, the judging system change, and most recently the quest for quads by girls and drugging Part Two, since drugging Part One probably began with Katarina Witt getting steroids.
I felt strongly that figures should have been eliminated from competition starting in the 1930s or 40s. I felt passionately about that in the 60s and 70s, and no longer care about it. It's kind of like how I went from having a burning passion to be on the ice, long before I had a skating lesson or skated professionally, to not feeling that way at all about skating.
It's pretty odd that given my aversion to figures, which I could never skate worth beans, incidentally, since I started training so late, my real life with intersect with knowing Trixi and also a recent world champion in fancy figures, whom I knew in Colorado Springs when he wasn't a figure nut, but just another skater wishing he could get a medal at US Nationals. He won an international competition, but highest at US Nationals was 4th.
I agree, it wasn't Trixi's fault she was phenomenal at figures. She was just playing the game as it was at the time, and she won fair and square. So, turning the clock back to 1977, I'm not even sure I told Trixi my thoughts about figures, or that Janet Lynn was my favorite skater of all time (until Kostornaia). Trixi and I chatted maybe five or six times total.
I never met Janet Lynn. Her asthma ended her professional career. I think she just wanted to have a family life at that time also.
Pre-internet, I learned a lot about skaters like Emmerich Danzer or Ingrid Wendl. The latter was a news announcer on Austrian TV I saw regularly when I'd watch TV there. My coach would tell me these stories but I forgot most of them. Then just 15 years ago, I had a friend who skated in an adagio pair, in Sonja Henie's show. She told me all kinds of stories about that, but didn't really know the depth about Sonja's life as revealed in her biography.
Schuba’s program is very rigid and stifled; it’s clear that she’s trying her best. Lynn’s program is free flowing and lively; she makes it look easy
I love the watch...always got to know what time it is....
Я помню эту фигуристку. 😄
Я тоже её помню, она была сильна в школе-- это был её конёк! здорово рисовала фигуры и на этом этапе был большой разрыв с соперницами в её пользу, никто не мог её победить!
Those arms make me cringe-and on the landings..I can’t even
Clearly the smartest skater of the time period....why not focus on figures if it was 60% of the score AND the score ranges were never over 5.0 so winning figures was a double whammy over everyone else.....well played by Trixie.
She is still an Olympic champion and no one can ever take that away from her, but I wonder what she thinks about the fact that the rules were changed because people were outraged that such a weak skater won. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Very high marks for this effort.. generous
She is a tentative jumper but she has good flow and edges and lots of transitions. Too bad about the fall.
From her waist up she looks like she's skating compulsory figures during the free skating.
Go Trixi!!!
Very tall and beautiful like Carolina Kostner
lol she is zero like carolina kostner
same height! and Carolina probably would have been very gifted at the compulsory figures if they had still been a thing when she was competing.
Sind Sie blind. Die ist gelaufen wie ein Baumstamm. Carolina war super elegant.
I am amazed at how bad her footwork is, considering her skill at compulsory figures. I would think her edge work would be much better
This is a better program and a better performance than what is seen in the only other full-length footage of Schuba that is easily accessible: her showing at the 1972 European Championships, which is marred by sloppy execution and an almost lackadaisical attention to choreography. In fact, to those of us whose only familiarity with Trixie is through the harsh criticism usually levied against her free skating, this clip is revelatory. It shows her to be competent, technically sound, and even a pleasant -- if somewhat unispired -- performer. As others have mentioned, her flow, edging, and stroking are quite good (as might be expected of one so accomplished in figures) and, while the jumps aren't powerful, they are clean and neatly executed.
So glad they did away with compulsory school figures, that people like Janet Lynn who changed the sport to skating!!
Die steifen Arme sind krass !!!
wow what a mess, so sad figures counted for so much in those days she couldnt even hold a candle to janet lynns freeskating
It's sad they counted at all. They should have been eliminated from competition in the 1930s, or put in a separate competition, which would have died because of lack of audience. However, Trixi winning gold in the 1972 Olympics was instrumental in figures being devalued.
Trixie may not have been able to hold a candle to Janet Lynn's free skating but, Janet - as she has repeatedly stated herself - couldn't hold a candle to Trixie's figures. No one could.
Figures may seem superfluous, boring, and simplistic today but, until 1972 they counted 60% of the overall score. Trixie won fair and square according to the rules of the time, and despite her shortcomings as a free-skater when compared to Fleming, Lynn, etc., she still deserves accolades as probably the finest figure skater in the history of the sport.
For all the grief figure skating gets these days most of the modern ladies make skaters from way back look pretty unskilled and yes I mean artistically as well. I see skaters that come from non-traditional countries such as those from middle-eastern countries that still look more polished than this.
You need to remember that back then skaters spent hours and hours each week literally going round in circles doing compulsory figures. So they didn't spend as much time practicing free skating. Plus, in jump technique if you look at footage from before the mid 1970's you'll see that most skaters - both male and female - used to jump with their feet jammed together or with their free leg hanging at the side. In the mid 1970's we all started to cross our feet when jumping which made us all more aerodynamic and able to jump better. So yes if you look at today's skaters compared to skaters before the mid 1970's, the old skaters look unskilled. You really notice the difference after the 1976 Olympics, especially in the ladies. Compare Trixie Schuba here in 1970 with say Denise Bielmann or Elena Voderezova just 7 or 8 years later.
Sie war eben in der Pflicht unschlagbar gut! Ohne sie wären die Pflichtfiguren als Disziplin möglicherweise noch länger geblieben.
So this is Trixie Schuba.
Did she even do a lay back spin??
Trixi does sort of a half-layback for a few turns in a combination spin, the kind of position you might see a young girl do when first learning the spin. Sometimes skaters do not have the flexibility in the back to do laybacks, or they injure themselves doing them. I never saw Trixi do a good layback spin but it's possible she injured herself when she was young on them, and just had to do a little one.
@@Timzart7 or she just probably couldn't do one!
Tonya Harding had a beautiful lay back.
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Nah, Tonya's layback was nothing to write home about. I don't like laybacks where one of the shoulders is sticking up. Katarina Witt did the ugliest of any top skater though.
However, in the following video, you can see Tonya's deep edges, her speed, and a great flying spin, in addition to her triple axel. When she was at her best, she could be great, and skate with the speed and abandon which can make a performance thrilling. I was very happy for her when she won US Nationals, because I knew she came from a poor background and had a crazy mother.
czcams.com/video/WOP3Dj0DraQ/video.html
Since the recent points system demands that skaters can't just do a long layback spin, but must change positions two more times or whatever, these aren't the best examples. Still, you can see that nearly all of them, when they are doing the layback, they get in a position where both shoulders are back. Some of them are amazing:
czcams.com/video/Wxk0dFOx8yc/video.html
At least Tonya could do a lay back. Elaine zayak had a pretty lay back
Sie läuft, als hätte sie einen Stock verschluckt. Unglaublich, dass man mit diesem Laufstil Olympiasieger im Eiskunstlauf werden konnte. Die Betonung liegt auf Kunst. Es sieht einfach schrecklich aus.
No double axel or even a double loop. Most jarring is she doesn't point her free foot or turn out her free hip. She doesn't even have the dance-like edges she had in 1968. Her free skating got worse and worse
Part of that is she got bigger which I think was her just growing into her natural body type which was really too big for a skater. By 1972 her skating was actually a lot worse than this still (and she was even bigger). When she was doing Holiday on Ice she was so much thinner and her skating was better, but it looked like she almost had to starve herself given her natural body type.
I love Trixi's free skating.
Very nice skate apart from the fall. I am impressed. Surprisingly good from Trixi in free skating, loads better than her crappy 72 europeans skate that is online.
I think she has no charisma or grace at all!
@@dianaparker4807 I agree, but still relative to the skates I saw from her in 72 this is a big improvement. Don't believe me, look them up. Her success was only due to her amazing figures dominance though, everyone knows that.
@@ralphbourgeois5875 it's crazy! It's a good thing they did away with the school figures!
Катается тяжеловато и движения рук не очень красиво.
She didn't even do a double axel!!!
Didn't have to.
There's a new video of her at Europeans in 1968 and she does one double axel. She was smaller then and more slender so probably gave it up once she grew.
Two double Lutz and 2 double flips made up for it.
Ich die Beatrix heißt lol
what the hell??
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