AR-15 Grip comparison: BCM, Magpul, Driven Arms/MKM, Sig, DFCO...
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Comparing my top AR-15 grips from different companies and designs, some you've heard of, some you haven't.
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So from my heavy use of this platform, Ive landed on the B5 systems grip. It does one thing that no other grip Ive used does, and that is that the height of the beaver tail brings the hand down so that your trigger finger is in a straight line to the trigger when web of your hand is choked all the way into it. Combine the grip angle, aggressive texturing and price, I dont think there is better grip. For context, I wear a size large glove and I like to run my stock as collapsed as possible, which necessitates the steep grip angle. For usually 20 bucks or less, I dont think it can be beat IMO
Love B5 systems, I just wish they made more things like a vertical grip
@@atkshow2111 I have tried the Kung Fu and I'm a convert lol. I didn't realize it was the same price as b5 and yeah the more vertical is fantastic. Safety manipulation is even better than the b5 with steeper angle as well.
@@andrewfernandez8330but the beavertail?
Mine came with a b5 on it stock and my gun store guy was like that's pretty cools way better than the magpull or a2 stuff they usually put on em
Bro, I went thru the same thing. Ur vid helped out, my buddy got the ULCG from driven arms. Was gunna grab it as well until I saw their pre order item for the “SCG” - Shadow Crossover Grip. Pure gold, everything about it.
I came to a realization that while the 10 degree grips are nice, it’s too much. 14 is the sweet spot. Emissary makes a grip called the AXLE as well
Just bought the DFCO last night. Eager to get it in and see how it goes. Great review man keep it up.
what do you think? what did you put it on?
@@carolinagunners6373 I have it on a 10.5 quad rail PSA build. It's really nice to have something slim line and short for this build. I will also add that I now have 3 Driven Arms grips and those are my favorite now.
I recently got the Driven Arms ULCG Gen2 grip and it's my all time favorite so far of any grip from any manufacturer that I've tried!
without telling a long story: this video has been an absolute asset to me.
BCM all the way I stipple the front and rear strap with a wood burner with a tree bark like pattern that shit don't move in your hand at all and the grip is both aesthetically pleasing and very comfortable to me be personally 👌
Just got a mag pull k2+. It’s perfect for what this gentleman wants
Been using B5 grip, that Kung Fu Grip looks like it may be even better!
I have tried the B5 but did not have it on hand to review...But I can say the Kung Fu grip is a better angle and feel with that undercut!
@@archangelconcepts5508 Gonna have to try one out, thanks for the video!
I started with the hogue overmolded and the only other style I've alternate with a few lowers is the magpul overmolded it's just the right feel and retention for me.
I love the hogue overmolds the the beavertail. I put them on every gun. Have bought various others over time and just continuously dont like the feel and go back to the hogue overmold. My wife feeks the same way with her builds too.
Just got the DFCO Kung fu grip. Replaced the K2-XL for me on my 16in. I can see the K2 still being a solid choice for a longer upper but I just think the DFCO is cool so I kept it one
SVDS style pistol grips are the best regardless of what rifle they are on! They make every rifle feel like an sbr! They offer a level of comfort and performance that can't be matched! Dragunov really understood ergonomics and that's why these work so well! Now you AR guys have something else to thank AK guys for🤣🤣🤣!
I’ve owned Daniel Defense, 2 Magpuls, and BCM, and the best I have now is the Fab Defense! Great Ergonomics
I have been in the Reptilia camp for awhile now. I recently switched out for the Die Free Co for my 10.5 and I like the angle and the grip size. Especially since I don't run it with the stock/brace fully extended I tried the Hogue 15 degree but it was just too narrow for me but it is quite vertical. Maybe for people up north who wear gloves more often would find its narrowness comfortable, down in florida though I am not wearing gloves. I still keep the Reptilia on my 16 inch though, its extra width works well for the longer upper.... But as long as it isn't an A2 its workable.
I like the grip on the Sig MCX. The texture and angle feels great but my go to is the BCM grip
I'm all about the K2 XL grip,I have pretty big paws(I wear a XL glove) & Magpul said they were taking the K2 grip,increasing the overall size about 20%,w/more aggressive texturing,I bought one & that did it for me. I replaced all my AR's & AR style grip rifles w/the K2 XL & am hella stoked,I even have a few floating around still in the packaging,waiting to go on my next AR purchase/build
Good breakdown. Kung fu grip is on my radar. I'm currently running the k2+
I absolutely love the Kung-fu grip! I just wish they made more of a full size longer version of it as well as it is pretty compact. Also gonna do a stipple job on it. But the angle of the grip and the undercut is on point!
@@archangelconcepts5508 they seem to be sold out constantly otherwise I'd have one already
@@abolishtheatfandrepealthenfa shootingsurplus.com/dfco-kung-fu-grip/
They seem to be out right now but this is where I got mine from
K2 + my personal favorite great video! Make more video's and get some range time on some content too!!!
I like the Houge grip, it is a little rubberized and has finger grips. The angle is not bad and I don't shoot a thousand rounds every time I go to the range so work's great for me.
B5 systems P-Grip 23. Lots of interesting colors and feel fantastic.
Actually, a bent on the wrist helps control muzzle rise and aid in stability.
Great video. You have to try the Fab defense gradus grip if you haven’t already … I would love to hear your thoughts on how it compares
I have actually tried the Gradus grip briefly. I can say it is a very ergonomic grip and comfortable in the hand but I just can't get on board the rubber overmold grip train. I hate how it feels and from experience know that they eventually peel or start falling off in pieces, especially in warmer climates.
My grips MUST take an oil bottle insert, but a like a more vertical position. So I use Magpul K2s on all my rifles. If they made a 10-12 degree K2 grip I'd be all over it.
The Magpul K2 is pretty good but there is just something amazing about the feel of the BCM Mod 0!
Daniel defense makes the perfect grip for the AR imo. It's a natural enough angle and it's extremely comfortable for my smallish hands.
Interesting. I have what people would call large hands and i find the DD grip to be perfect for me as well
AGREED! My favorite feeling grip on my ar...💯💯💯
Well I have ape hands so I'll avoid those.
Ironically I felt the same way until I bought my first full DD. Switched to Magpul K2+ with a Geissele Ultra precision trigger guard. Prob my favorite.
Hated the one I tried but ergonomics are highly personal
I just installed the DFCO KungFu grip on my 9.5" 300BO and I love it on that little shorty blaster. I've ordered the Reptilian grip for my 12.5" 556. We'll see how that works out.
I've heard good things about the Reptilia grip, especially the Clutch Kinetic Custom ones. Right now I'm in love with the Driven Arms ULCG Gen 2, literally my favorite grip so far!
I love the Driven VCG, but I think they made their best grip for Black Collar in the Priapus, love both on full-size ar-10s and chassis guns. But I have ES Pebbles on my home defense and truck guns(both 300blk Virtus on Radian Adac lowers) They feel like polar opposites but feel really good in their respective roles.
I would try the Pebble grip if it had a beaver tail!
Awesome video man. You really get into some of the weird ones to. I have a small collection of them to. Still not sure what i like best. Luckily i did find the stock i want to stick with, LWRC UCIW, the first time i bought something different. Have a friend who found the right grip right away. But couldn't settle on a stock. So hes got over $1000 in stocks lol
Oh man, ya the stock thing is a whole other and much more expensive rabbit hole! For grips I have finally settled on the Driven Arms ULCG Gen2 grip. Closest I've felt to perfection so far!
Each of them will have a different feel from the factory build if you're operating with gloves which is common in the field. Just another thing to take into consideration before you choose any one grip for your weapons.
K2 overall for me. Ergo makes one, and it's a big boy, but I don't recall the model. If you run an a1, the colts are noticeably better since they are slightly wider and they don't have that slippery feel.
I went down the rabbit hole using different grips on all my builds and Black Collar Arms Priapus grip is one of my top favs.
I do really like the esthetics of the Priapus but I wish it has a beaver tail on it!
Excellent video,I’m head down the rabbit hole now , I’ve been trying out different grips on rifles at my local shop trying to save myself from the addiction 😂 Cool rifles,what rail is that you have on the kung fu grip rifle, I like that!! I tried the sig grip on a new rifle at my local shop , feels good,Thinking bout getting one or maybe the sig precision, I have Xl hands you think The sig precision would be a better choice over the sig MCX
Definitely go with the Sig precision grip, especially if you have big hands. And the rail paired with the Kung fu grip is part of a complete upper: a POF Renegade+ 10.5".
Driven Arms Co CZ Shadow 2 Grip Adapter is EASILY the best grip for the AR for 1 simple reason: Modularity. The ergonomics of CZ’s pistol grips are already legendary on their own, but add to that the fact that you have seemingly infinite number of color, texture, material, and profile options on offer from the numerous companies providing aftermarket support for the Shadow 2, and the answer to which AR pistol grip is best becomes pretty glaringly obvious, imho.
Great vid, thanks for making it! I have to laugh in that all of your rifles are black and I only have one that’s black, all the rest are a variety of colors and patterns.
BTW I’ve standardized on the K2+ for my builds. I like the rubberized grip and the angle is fine for me.
Thanks! Rattle canning or cerakoting is something I intend on venturing into, just haven't yet!
Careful when that rubber coating starts to degrade. It’ll become sticky.
@@Clockwork0nions that's exactly why I got rid of the K2+ and just went back to the K2
@@archangelconcepts5508
Its why I use the regular K2 grip and put bicycle innertube on it 😉
very informative, brother. thank you 🤙🏻
Have you tried the B5 grip? If you haven't you should definitely check them out.
I did and really felt like it was just ok, like if the Magpul K2 and BCM Mod 1 had a baby
B5 is a my go 2.
@@dav762s I like the angle and the aggressive texture. However I have the one with the fat beaver tail, and it's big enough to get in the way of using my long safety. It would probably work better with a 45 throw safety. Also with how my finger lands on the trigger I tend to throw my shots to the right. BCM is my go to, but the B5 definitely has a place.
Man...I fell victim to the Die Free Co hype. I got one for my 10.5" LWRC and it's definitely too short for my meaty mitts. I wear a L/XL glove and feel like too much of my palm hangs off of the bottom. If there were ANY grip on the back of it that might help me out. But, not all is lost. It will probably work well on my 8" AR9 that only sees occasional range use.
Ya it's definitely not made for big mits. The Driven Arms grip is though!
Been rocking the BCM, including the shorty BCM, for a long time, just started the Reptilia which seems to work well with the Aero EPC 9 and my small hands
Maybe the best review of grips i saw in a while ....simple and to the point :))) BYW also was super happy with the OG SIG grip on my MCX bought 2 more for my ARs ....on the issue of the congfu grip ....sorry bought into the hype ....ehhh its a gimmick not for everyone 😮💨
Imo, if the magpul k2+ grip had finger grooves id buy a pallet of them. Im one of the few guys that likes finger grooves, so i use an ergo rubber overmold grip with the grooves.
The MKM seems like it might be better on a bolt action setup.
Yes it's definitely for a precision set up
try out the Cobalt Kinetics Pro Grip or Pro Grip XL. possibly the Edgar Sherman Designs grips
The Cobalt looks super interesting to me
Try the Thrill grip, if you like the Sig I think you will dig it. I went down this rabbit hole as well, I also did it with charging handles, LOL
The Thril kinda looks like BCM and Reptilia had a baby. Can't say I'll try it through, grip angle is 19.5 degrees, definitely not steep enough for me!
I feel like we have very similar taste in grips. I have been using the reptilia grips recently, but that sig grip you like looks very appealing. I can't seem to find it online though, are they discontinued like all other sig products?
Here ya go...
www.sigsauer.com/cross-prs-weighted-grip.html
@@archangelconcepts5508 You are the man! Also damn! That weight must be made of gold!
@mrsickwick haha no problem, I don't use the weights bc the grip is on my cqb rifle but I'm sure it's beneficial for a DMR setup.
@@archangelconcepts5508 I realized I had a brand new TangoDown BG-18 in a box the other night and decided to give it a shot, and I have to say it's pretty damn nice. A little slim, but almost perfect angle. Have you tried this grip by chance?
@mrsickwick I have and I agree it's a little narrow. And I love the steep angle of the front of the grip but I wish they would have made the back angle of the grip match the front but instead they made it wider at the bottom making the angle of the back different than the front.
So, the MKM grip you tried is the ULCG. They also make a VCG that doesnt have the same indent on the thumb web for prone precision platforms, also its longer.
No, it is actually the VCG (Vertical Crossover Grip) with the 5 degree grip angle. I was wrong when I said it was 10 degrees.
The BCM MOD 0 and MOD 1 appear to be the same, except the MOD 0 has no beaver tail. I have the BCM MOD 1 on several weapons and prefer that in combination with the BCM short angled foregrip to keep the stock pulled into the shoulder pocket. I have a Magpull MOE on an AP M4E1 rifle with a Laws Folder, which adds about 2" to the the length of pull. Seems fine, so apparently, the length of pull and forearm length affect wrist angle comfort. FWIW i wear a size large glove and have longish' fingers. I prefer floves when shooting
Yes, length of pull and forearm length definitely will affect wrist angle comfort. Grip angle is just an additional factor in the comfort equation.
The original design isn't for pression shooting, it's for combat fighting where you're most often shooting from the hip so to speak.
With the stock not on your shoulder, running, crouching or prone.
@@viccolicci3878 that more extreme angle of Stoner's grip design would definitely make more sense for lower hip shooting
LaRue fits my hand perfectly
Gotta collect them all!
The only grip review I have liked so far. I’m having trouble deciding between the sig precision and the precision vertical crossover by MK machining. What would you recommend for a precision build SR25?
If it's going to be strictly a precision rifle, I'd go with the MK Machining/Driven Arms VCG-1.
Great review !
Hogue overmolds for me, ive tried lots of other styles and nothing feels as good as the hogue to me. Only other grips i have are ergos fat grips on precision builds.
I only like straight up and down grips on a precision rifle… the angle of the grip helps you to maneuver the muzzle more easily because you’re angled to the muzzle not the trigger is the point
I have to respectfully disagree. Your muzzle has nothing to do with your pistol grip but your support hand drives and controls the muzzle. I'm a firm believer that the pistol grip should place your trigger finger at the correct angle to pull the trigger which is straight back, not at an upward angle.
DFCO Kung fu grip is awesome, it would be dope if someone could manufacture the exact same grip in 6 series or 7 series aluminum
For some reason you speaking is normal at 1.75x. Even 2x.
Did you slow it down when recording?
Backstrap? You mean beavertail?
@@DisgustedGenXr something must be weird with your playback speed setting or connection bc there's nothing wrong with the normal speed of the video.
@@DisgustedGenXr yes, beavertail.
Got my DFCO kung fu grips on my sbrs and my apc9k pro
It has grown on me the more I use it....except for the stippling...gonna have that re-stippled.
The rifles with the circular handguards are made by what company? And if it's a complete rifle,I'd like to know that information as well. Appreciate it.
I'm not sure which handguards you're referring to bc they're all pretty circular
The rifles in the thumbnail for this video.
@@raggedyred21@raggedyred21 top one is a 10.5" POF Renegade +, bottom one is a 14.5" Centurion Arms upper on an AAC lower.
@archangelconcepts5508 ,appreciate it.
Pretty sure that particular MKM grip is for precision rifle setups but they have others for SBRs etc
Yes, precision is what it's designed for but I loved the esthetics of it so much I had to try it
You should check out the new Edgar Sherman Design Granite grip. Looks similar to the Sig and available in 3 different grip textures.
I actually just installed one for a friend about 3 days ago....not bad but for some reason the width tapers down and gets really thin towards the bottom, like really thin.
@@archangelconcepts5508 thanks for the info..hard for anything to beat out the DieFreeCo grip me anyway. I have a few of the early runs that Ivan over at Kit Badger was selling. I believe they were originally called the Stoner Grip. It was basically the same but had removable grip tape panels rather than the texture thats on the new KungFu....and was alot more expensive lol
Check out the Tactical Link PDW Grip, similar to a K-2, w/ a 14 degree angle and Thril RTG w/ a 19.5 degree angle.
I've seen these and they are extremely similar to the Magpul K2...so much so I didn't bother trying it bc the shape and grip angle is almost exactly the same.
What would you guys say is the most similar to the Sig Grip? I had one that came with my Snakebite SE and loved it. My only complaint is that it was not long enough as I have pretty meaty palms. I am looking for something that is extremely similar to the Sigs ergonomics yet just a bit longer.
So your Sig grip that came on your Snakebite should be the smaller Sig grip I covered. I would say the most similar feeling but long is the other Sig grip, www.sigsauer.com/cross-prs-weighted-grip.html
You should check out the Irregular defense special k grip
So long ass story short. Buy the Kung fu grip and stipple it. I personally use bcm parts on all mine but the undercut and grip angle of the die free is intriguing
I really love the angle and undercut of the Kung Fu grip and am going to stipple it to keep on my 10.5" truck gun.
Try the mkm grip with gloves I wonder if it helps that secondary angle
I thought the same thing but doesn't do much.
Driven Arms Co makes the same thing as the MKM but without the extra shoulder.
MKM manufacturers it for Driven Arms and is exactly the same grip, shape, texture options, etc.
You have 90 grips because you just didn't get an ergo! Ever since I tried a couple I will never go with anything else I have an ergo precision 0° and a tactical suregrip and they are far superior than any other out..
The problem with the A2 isn't the grip angle. Its the design/shape. Take that grip angle, make the grip thicker and contoured, with a beavertail and aggressive texture. Suddenly the angle doesn't matter. Dont believe me? Try an A-Peg from LaRue Tactical. Everybody wants a straight grip till they load their AR to 9lbs with shit all over the front, then they realize the leverage to keep the nose up is shit. Your firing hand isnt meant to support the gun. Its meant to pull trigger. As soon as you lose your support hand (to a reload or even injury) and you try to keep the gun up, you'll wish you had a more angled grip. Trust me
Tangodown BG18 is worth a try!!
I've heard good things about it!
Incorrect, your wrist it’s at it’s strongest at a slight bend downward, the grip angle on an AR was never a problem until long foot patrols during the GWOT while carrying a rifle at a low ready. Asked any boxer or MMA fighter about punching with a straight wrist!!! The A2 angle causes extreme fatigue to the wrist, after extended periods of time, therefore everyone clamored and got the “k” type angles on grips, absolutely nothing wrong with the A2 angle unless ur walking 12hrs with 80lbs of crap in 130 degree heat…..
Besides unless you’re wearing heavy body armor who shoots an AR fully collapsed???
The DieFreeCo is similar to what Kit badger had? Or it is the same?
I think it might be but I'm not positive
What's your truck gun?
It's the 10.5" POF with the DFCO Kung Fu grip
Best
Stil don't get why nobody puts ANY effort into making their grips actually feel good and of quality materials for the aftermarket.
What handstop is that @ 15:00?
Strike Industries LINK
www.strikeindustries.com/si-link-hsk.html
What magnifier is on your duty rifle?
It's a Sig Juliet5-Micro...crystal clear and very good magnification. I'd say it's a tad better than my Eotech G45.
@@archangelconcepts5508 thanks! Any additional comments regarding Juliet 5 vs G45? Trying to decide between the two. Particularly curious about eye box and eye relief for the two
@EzraLopezUSPSA G45 is definitely a bigger diameter lense so you do feel like the FOV is bigger but I'm not entirely sure if that's accurate or not. Eye relief is nearly identical.
@@archangelconcepts5508 with how the Juliet is set up on your duty rifle with the FTC mounted all the way to the rear, do you still have to move your head forward for an appropriate sight picture or is it largely the same head position when shooting dot only?
@EzraLopezUSPSA I do still have to move my head slightly forward but it's not enough to be uncomfortable amd don't have to change where the buttstock is positioned on my shoulder so that stays the same.
What handguard is that @10:50
That's the Sig M400 Pro handguard...not sure they offer it as an after market option but I absolutely love it
Bring on the hate but I like the A2 grip.
Haha, no hate here, but be careful...your age is showing!
The A2 grip reminds me of a Glock.
I'd say even worse than a Glock grip!
Strike industries makes my favorite over molded grip. I learned about a couple new purchases I'm going to make after watching this video though!
We Learn at 5 years old.... NOTHING IS PERFECT!!!!!!! you gotta find what your GRIP Likes BEST
Right! Obviously this is a very subjective review. However, I'm of the belief that while hand size can vary drastically, the way a human hand forms around something to grip is basically the same so, though admittedly subjective to my personal opinions and hand, hopefully people find this review useful in making their own decisions and not have to spend a crap ton of money finding what's best for them.