The REAL Reason I'm Switching to Pixel Fold (NOT Galaxy Z Fold5)
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2023
- Compared to the Samsung Galaxy Fold5, the Pixel fold is inferior in almost every way imaginable. The Galaxy Fold5 has an s-pen, actually opens apps to full screen, has thinner bezels, unlocks more Galaxy watch functions, and actually opens flat to 180 degrees. So why do I prefer to use the Pixel fold, this seemingly inferior device, as my everyday phone? It sounds baffling that one singular aspect of the phone can make me choose the pixel fold and accept so many compromises, but that is exactly what happened. To clarify, I love Samsung products and this video is in no way sponsored at all. I was originally planning on putting my sim in the Galaxy Fold5 but here I am, a month later, using the Google Pixel Fold everyday and actually loving it. So like I said there is really only one reason I chose the Pixel fold over the Galaxy Fold, but along with that one thing, there are a ton of nuanced quirks, frustrations, and hidden benefits of this first generation device that you really do not notice until after using it a month or two as I have been.
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ADDITIONAL REVIEW NOTES:
THE ASPECT RATIO
Samsung designed an inside screen-first phone. This is an outside screen first, with the best aspect ratio out there
I use the outside screen 85% of the time but when I need the big screen, I am SO happy I have it
Perfect for multitasking
Perfect for showing someone photos or videos
Web browsing with tabs
Emailing
Dual apps
Now that is why I chose this folding phone, but not why I chose this over the many other great phones out there. Let’s go pro-con-pro-con
CON: Battery life is not great
I wish I could give you a good measurement, but my solution to the battery problem skewed my information
PRO:
Magsafe sticker
CON:
Speakerphone is oddly quiet
PRO:
Google Pixel features - hold for me, call screening, direct my call
CON:
Lack of optimized apps
Split screen only works in one orientation
PRO:
Some apps work in full screen if you rotate
Split screen is so useful! I use it for multitasking
For copying photos to emails, texts, etc (simply select multiple photos, then tap and drag)
Soon you will be able to copy text like this too
For retyping passwords, pins, phone numbers, etc - never need to remember anything
For verification emails without closing the app you are logging into
CON
It’s technically not dust rated
PRO
I dropped this in sand. It’s fine
CON
I accidentally press the power button in my pocket all the time(?)
PRO
Smaller size - I heard someone say it feels like a Pixel 7 mini
Passport like design
Google Pixel features
Clean UI
CON
Cameras are good, but not as good as the 7 pro (you can really notice in low light)
The price
I am confident this is a phone that will continue to get substantially better. Apps with large screen capabilities will be surfaced on google play and other apps will include warnings
Is it worth the $1800 right now? No, much like most first gen devices, this is for early adopters but I will say this. I have showed my iPhone friends the flip4, the fold5, and the pixel fold, and the Pixel fold is the one that got the most positive reactions. People lit up and said “woah. That is so cool. I get why this exists”
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I jst got a pixel fold 2 days ago. I wanted the fold 5 as I've been a Galaxy note user since the note 4. I am not disappointed at all. It's clean fast sleek in design and the best part is the fact u have a normal size phone and a powerhouse giant all in one. I didn't like the narrow design of the fold 5. This phone is loud too and it's perfect how well integrated google is. It feels like the phone the early Samsung's aimed to be with how well the operating system functions. It cld use a better chipset but it's not far off from the exynos. Nailed it when u said it's alot like an iPhone aesthetically. You can tell this is the type of phone where u constantly learn and unlock subtle features u soon learn u can't live without and love about a device.
I'm coming from a 14 Pro to the fold 5 and I actually like the slim and narrow front screen. I even use the default Samsung keyboard. Maybe I have small hands but the front screen size really works for me. When I looking to buy a folding a phone, the stylus was the deciding factor for me, I needed a stylus which is why I went with the fold. I also love the icy blue color of the fold 5.
Same I switched from a 14 pro to a fold 5 first time having my Sim in a android and I'm loving it:)
I use the gboard extra tall and it's pretty good
I have the 14 pro and fold 5 and I constantly pick up my fold.
@@greenandred1401it’s massively worse than iOS. I’m sorry dude.
I got big hands and i like the taller narrow screen. Because i can use it easy on one hand
So I was watching your video on my z fold 2 , I noticed some things you said about the fold a multi tasking , you can actually do a lot of spilt screen sharing like the photos copy and paste either for Samsung gallery or Google Photos it works I did it as you were explaining. I can see where having a longer phone sucks but software wise they have more similar things than not. Great video
Hey man how is that z fold 2 holding up for ya? Any issues with the inner display?
Pixel Fold is the Oppo Find N2. The passport format is the way to go for foldable and Samsung went to a wrong way in my opinion.
Really love the points u made and some of them are the same reasons I use the Pixel Fold as my daily driver. It really has changed the way I used my phone.
I'd like to hear your preference regarding the Pixel Fold vs the new HONOR magic v2. I really like what I'm seeing regarding the latter phone.
Do we think that the fold design will become standard in the next few years? This design plus a pen for note taking could easily replace a phone and mini tablet.
It tickles me how so many people take the preferences of others so personally. I prefer to keep the Galaxy Z Fold 4 for now, but I can see why the Pixel works better for a lot of people.
Like I said, the Z Fold is better in every way! The aspect ratio is just a personal preference for me
@@MikeOBrienMedia I agree! I’m actually very happy about the Pixel too. I’m hoping this will motivate Samsung to maybe add a better form factor in the lineup if they aren’t willing to improve the Fold’s.
@@MikeOBrienMediait's just a preference otherwise it wouldn't be perfect for you. Sound like a fan boy 😂
@@MikeOBrienMediait's also like people forgot what a smartphone is and expect it to do everything in the world instead of being a smart phone. Blackberry understood lol😅 everything in tech is preference now due to how well they're all made. Doubt anyone would run for a blackberry storm or HTC aria even tho they were the folds and maxes of yesteryear. 😅 they are only compromises if you had the feature and lost it otherwise you would never know.
It tickles me how some people will never admit the frustration they will always have with narrow zFolds :p
I much prefer the design of my Z fold 5 over the Pixel Fold
Same here, Pixel Fold was just released and designs and other factors will definitely need to be improved overtime and on their next models if they will convince me to switch to their side, I just feel like apps are not yet properly optimized on the Pixel Fold yet
You can have your opinions but if you don't speak from experience of owning both, you will never realize the limitations of the zFold
I switched from ZFold 3 to Pixel Fold and I use the inside screen so much less, which feels wrong, but the Fold is just so much fun to hold and use. I know that sounds weird, that a phone would be "fun to hold", but that's really the only way to describe it.
@mike - thanks for this. How strong is that ESR magnet and how much additional weight does it add? Would you say its flush with the camera hump?
Thanks for not wasting my time. What do you think of graphene os for it?
Is that mafsafe sticker directly on the phone? Can u share which you went with?
What is that MagSafe that the Pixel Fold has?
Fold 3 user here. As much as I struggled with the keyboard on the outside screen I really like the thin design when it is closed. It feels great in hand. I actually quite got used to typing on the narrow keyboard. My only issues are the camera and the battery life.
I see myself as a fairly heavy phone user but my fold 4 battery life has always done me justice. But my biggest work around is using Samsung dex whenever I want to game and I use a steamdeck dock to have a wired connection and use a monitor
Used both 3&4 if you could make it to a 5 via reasonable upgrade exchange you will be amazed with the battery life...
The fold 3 had the absolute worst battery life. I'm quite surprised your able to stay with it. I had both zFold 3 &4 and using the Pixel Fold is quite a liberating experience that cannot be overstated.
How's the temperature management on the pixel fold vs the ZF4/ZF5?
Im thinking of upgrading my earbud and im stuck between the buds2 pro and the linkbuds s which one do you recommend more?
Was about to order this
Saw ur video
And thnxx for saving my money from getting wasted!
Getting the Z fold 5!
I really like the "Passport" proportions that Google went with for their foldable. It's the reason I would finally seriously consider a "fold" type phone vs a "flip" style for my first folding phone.
Hopefully they will continue to refine it though. The inside bezels should be smaller. And they really need to work on app support.
I too spend at least 80% of time using the outer screen of the fold 5. For me the slimmer profile is ideal for one handed use - scrolling, quick replies etc. When I need to do something really productive like view a spreadsheet or pdf, then I use the inner screen. I also appreciate the ability to customize my outer screen for all the at-a-glance and quick functions I need and be also able to customize the inner screen to suit my productivity need.
That's great. I know that some people will adapt better to that narrow Galaxy front display, but the vast majority want and need a wider aspect ratio, and the Pixel nails that. We have been robbed of that over the last 4 years with Samsung persisting with this narrow display despite every other fold-like device going with a wider screen. It is seemingly Samsung sticking to their guns despite the obvious. I would probably return to the Samsung Fold 6 if they resolve this but they lost me. The Pixel Fold is selling like hotcakes and nearly impossible to buy one in the UK whereas the Galaxy Fold 5 has already dropped as much as £800 within a week on eBay.
@@andyH_England Vast majority? Your arguments are anecdotal. I merely stated that the fold 5 works for me. I really don't care if the "vast majority" of people prefer a wider aspect ratio or if the Pixel fold is "selling like hotcakes".
@@MrSilentknight2012 The Fold5 may work for you, but you have never had a galaxy fold with a wider aspect ratio that may work even better. Well next year I'm 100% confident that the Fold6 will be wider and you will get a chance to see how much better that is...or not!
@@andyH_England Well I switched from the Fold 4 to the Pixel fold and went back to the fold 4. I don't need to be told what my preferences should be - perfectly capable of making my own choices.
@@andyH_England I'm actually with MrSilentknight on this one. I prefer a narrow screen of the Galaxy Z Fold, and I hope Samsung sticks to it. It's great that Google makes a phone that works better for other people. They should just use Google Pixel Fold. I think it's better we have different options that work for different people, instead of demanding everyone confirms to our preferences.
Running Android 14 beta the battery last a day and half with 7 hours on screen time everyday. Battery charges faster never over heats. Watching on my Pixel Fold.
You nailed the nuance of the device.
I still have friends who claim flip-out keyboards like the Droid were peak. It is nice to use something different and be on clean Android again.
I've never had a phone I liked more than this Pixel Fold. The iPhone 14 pro max, pixel 7 and Samsung s21 ultra I've had and they do not come close to this. Google killed it!
No phone is worth $1800. I got $1000 off with Verizon. Its definitely worth $800!
I am looking at the same deal. With the $1,000 off from Verizon, it certainly makes a huge difference. I was trying to figure out between the Samsung Fold and Google Fold, but looks like Google may be the way to go. Monday, the OPPO (OnePlus Open) is set to release so I am going to look at that as well.
My biggest concern is the photo and video quality. I want the best, and hearing that the Google Fold doesn't have the best video quality.
@@aberdeenmeadows The Verizon deal made it 100% worth it. I love this fold. The front screen is wonderful . It's not perfect but I'm hoping software helps fix those things. This phone is also the heaviest I've ever had. The camera performs the best in the daylight. At night it's mediocre and the video is fine but not near Apple. I'm not sure how it goes up against the Z fold.
If you come into this knowing it's not perfect but for $800, the good outweighs the bad, then go for it.
The entire point of a Fold is to have a tablet in your pocket. The Samsung is a much better tablet. Even as a phone it's easier to use one handed, which is the only reason I would use it closed anyways. Quick texts or whatever are easy on the outer screen with swipe and a single thumb. I wouldn't sacrifice the spen for anything either. It's an incredibly useful tool. I use Anki to learn languages, trivia, and memorize things like geography and world events. The pen makes it super easy to handwrite my answers as I go to help cement them in my memory. It also makes taking quick notes during phone calls so much easier, not to mention what I can do with it when it comes to photo editing in lightroom or editing PDFs. The Spen+fold is the first time I've felt a phone is a truly capable productivity tool. And with dex? Get out of here.
I'll still take the pixel fold over it
@@darkjorgelink Ok good for you? If you dont do anything productive with it and just want a big screen then good for you. I expect my phone to pay for itself within 3 months or it is a waste of money.
I have a galaxy fold I'm sending in for a pixel fold. The galaxy fold is not the phone for an spen that's the ultra 😂 it is compatible but I don't like using it. You understand the s series has dex too? The s series can do everything u just listed so I'm confused on how this opinion matters when you describing how the ultra is actually your beast. 😅 those apps can be downloaded on any phone too. The galaxy fold is the wrong ratio to be a good tablet it's just a fun square. I don't like the black bars on my shows and have to rotate to landscape when the pixel just opens that way like a normal tablet. Also prone to alot of typos on the small screen so get ready for false accusations of being drunk even if you don't drink. 😅 is it a good phone yes but it's getting a body make over to match a pixel layout so enjoy the last model that's funky cuz we reviewers said no lol
If you taking about tablet then the zFold has exact same size screen as Pixel Fold when rotated 90°, which is what I always had to do when I had the zFold. In comparison the Pixel Fold is a very liberating experience by actually being more useful on Both screens...
Where did you buy your sticker MagSafe ?
You can use a stylus with the fold. Just not a digital one but a basic one which is all I need
Both screens
I am using a Fold 3 now and just traded in for the Pixel fold. Is that a good upgrade compared the the 3?
I totally understand the mentality of compromising functions for a particular form factor or feel of a device.
Same as your preference of the Pixel Fold, mine is with the Huawei Mate XS2. For me that's the best form factor, build quality, and feel for a foldable device. Looks great. Great to use with one hand. When folded the front screen is very usable (not too narrow, good 6.5 inches, looks like a regular phone), and when opening the device it opens from the outside: you aren't opening a book, but rather the screen is wrapped around the entire device, and you unwrap the portion from the back to the side to add to your front screen. It isn't flimsy either. Looks sleek and sturdy.
The design is overall rounded, premium, phone has good cameras too. To me they got the form factor and the feel absolutely right.
However, the Mate XS2 has a ton of downsides. Small battery, doesn't have 5G if I recall correctly, doesn't support Google services. You can sideload it of course, but there will still be restrictions, you will have limited access to google services (Maps, can use, but can't login for example, etc.), because the device lacks Google certificates, API, support, etc. Probably have trouble using paying services (GooglePay, SamsungPay, ApplePay, Wallet, or whatever comes to mind) and banking apps as well. The price is insane too - somewhere between 1.5k and 2k USD. It's just dumb paying so much for sub par chipsets or lack thereof, and lack of services. It is really indefensible.
The ONLY thing they got close to perfect is the design, and the screen, and that is quite a big achievement in my opinion. I would compromise many functions for the perfect folded screen. I'll also add this; The fact that the screen wraps around the phone, and you might think that it would be scratched up if you put it into your pockets or a bag. No. Just no. I've used different Android phones over the years, all without cases or screen protectors, just out of the box like they were, and even though you always get fingerprints that you can wipe away, I have NEVER scratched ANY of the phone screens, neither from being in pockets, nor bags, nor just laying on tables, in cars, on beds, couches, etc. NEVER. So I can't imagine, even the wrapped up screen of the Mate XS2, having any danger of being scratched.......unless you literally take a screw driver and with force start to scratch lines into it. It's just stupid. No, the Mate XS2 would not get scratched up when you wear it in your jeans pocket. Case closed.
Honestly, all the other folding phones on the market look like chunky things to me - too industrial, not premium enough; Not OnePlus Open, not Pixel Fold, not Motorola Razr+, not Samsung Z Fold nor Z Flip. They are all mid, going for the "wrong" form factor. The "industrial booklet" instead of a "rounded, thin, premium outside wrap".
you should do a video about the s9 tab ultra and using it with an alternative keyboard
How's keeping this device on the charger helping with battery life other than degrading it in time? Imho that's poor advice. Just charge it completely and whenever you get to 5% go ahead and charge it 👍🏼
Where you get that sticker
While i definitely understand why some prefer the pixel, even without considering software I prefer Samsung. It's not too big for me one handed or two as someone who's last 2 phones were a Galaxy 10+ and Iphone 12 pro max. I probably us the outer screen for everything aside from videos and gaming but those are also what I got the fold for. If I wanted a phone to use as a phone I'd have gotten the ultra and if I'm the type to take pictures I probably would have gotten the pixel. For what I need and want a foldable for the Z fold is near perfect. Just want a better case for it haha😅
If anyone would use the outer screen 85% of the time. Why just not getting a regular phone + a tablet for the remaining 15% ???? And it would be half the price
@@DeRockeyTech that’s kind of what I think. As someone who games heavily and never uses his phone as a phone this fold is perfect. Not too big, near perfect form factor, and the snapdragon has been blowing me away so far with it’s capability
@@DeRockeyTechyou could supply the same for the Z fold if you only use the inner display might as well buy a tablet
@techr1320 actually no. The whole point of a folding phone of this shape and this high price is to have a tablet most of the time and u can fold in your pocket and make a phone call on the go. Not the other way around
@@DeRockeyTech the point of a folding phone depends on the user but you should be able to have zero issues using the front display as that’s all you will use when you first get it out your pocket. Z fold fails at this due to the bad front display. Pixel when opened is still more comfortable to use when opened up even if it currently lacks some of the features and software specs of the fold. People see more likely be able to use the pixel fold as their main device than they will the Z fold. It feels like Z fold can only ever be a secondary device
I've got a pixel 6 pro on pixel pass, ill probably go 8 pro this time around and then see where the foldables are at
The reason why samsung makes the front screen narrow is because it's foldable phone. The intent is using the inner screen more often the the front screen. Some brands are making the front screen like regular phone. So what is the point of using the inner screen if you have regular front screen to work or to use with.
Fold 5 user, I like the narrow front screen. I enjoy being able to navigate the screen with one hand. Which I was unable to do with the ultra 23.
What about the OnePlus open? I've been bouncing between the pixel fold and the OnePlus open for a while on what my next phone is gonna be
Another amazing and informative video from the tech CZcams GOAT HIMSELF🐐🐐🐐
4:57 not true, idk about normal android version but on android 14 beta there is option to stretch to full screen every app
What's the battery like?
I have been using a Z fold 3 for 2 years and the one thing I have always disliked is the skinny front screen. Texting sucks on it. The dimensions of the Google Fold's front screen is exactly the reason I am thinking about trying it out. Thanks for the great video sharing your experience.
I've been a Samsung Note
user since
the Note 2. If Samsung would've come out
with a fold the same size as the Pixel fold,
I would have sold an appendage to buy one
lmfao. With that said I would love to have a
Pixel Fold,
I think it would be a perfect
replacement because of how I use my S22
ultra and the apps that I typically use. Thanks for the video. 👍
Why would you buy a expensive jitterbug phone for senior citizens
@@mikejames6588 I guess that since I'm 59 year's old I am a senior. LMFAO!!! 😆🤣🤣🤣
Missed opportunity for Google is not having stylus support IMO. I agree price is much higher for Gen 1 device.
Thank you very much!
What kind of magsafe case is that on that pixel? I like!
Not a case, basically a sticker you add to the back of the phone.
I so much prefer the inner display even for simple apps like messaging that I am in the habit of simply opening the phone. It is so automatic for me to open the phone I even use it for things that could be done on the outer display. So I only use the outer display for phone calls and Spotify when I am in my car. The result is that I couldn't care less about the outer display on my Fold 5.
Does the phone overheat?
I'm try to figure out why he said the split screen won't rotate when you turn the phone, that is incorrect sir. I'm surprised a lot of these tech reviewers miss a lot of things on their reviews astound me.
Cant wait for the next video when you switch from the pixel fold to the OnePlus Open (hopefully)
Also, why dont you have a Discord server yet???
I find that the Pixel Fold optimises apps better than the Z Fold 5. When I open Gmail, it's divided correctly, when I open the Z Fold it's just one big app and not optimised correctly.😮
When blackberry phones came out Quarter keyboard And a small screen everyone got by it and made do with they had. Heck even first iPhone with it small screen and keyboard was small and people were perfectly fine with it.
To say samsung z fold with tall narrow aspect ratio make it not unusable is understatement.
This review will age well because as time goes on, the price of the Pixel fold will decrease but they will keep updating with features. I think this could be a good phone with software upgrades in the future.
I hate Samsung Fold Outer Screen to narrow, but the sad part they're not really doing anything about it.
I’m iPhone user but I want to switch to Pixar fold but issue is that it’s not available in my region unfortunately
Where can I get that magsafe sticker?
I'm in the UK and got that on Amazon, so I suspect wherever you are that will be the easiest place to find one.😊
6:50 I see a lot of micro scratches on the display.
reall hope the🔋 improves with the 2nd gen. the multitasking is really appealing to me
Love your honest takes and amazing video production, buddy. As a long term Fold user, having used all of the Samsung Folds yet, I have to agree on the aspect ratio. It's better on most other folds. The service and availability in regions other than the west, the history of software refinements and the better performing chip is what makes me pick the Samsung up. As someone who travels for 9 months a year, the modems on the Tensor chips are absolutely crippling in a lot of regions!
Keep dishing out the awesome content, buddy! Love it.
What about the Honor Magic V2?
That hasn't been released yet, at least globally though I suspect it will be soon. But it won't be released in the US and possibly in other countries. Sadly, until the OnePlus Open arrives in September, hopefully, we have just two choices, and some of us, the UK, for instance, will not see the OnePlus either.
please dont say its because the front screen being wider. if thats it, then you should just use a candy bar phone. the front screen is not meant to be used the majority of the time. it is supposed to be used only when you need to do something quick. you buy a fold to use the inside screen not the out. but i agree samsung needs to make it wider. i wish they had a fold ultra that was the size of 2 s23 ultras. that was what everyone was hoping for. we wanted a bigger tablet that could fold into a standard cell phone not fold into a midget cell phone
Agree on the need for wider z folds and hole for s pen
I came from a z fold 4 to the Pixel fold and i am pretty happy with my decision. I have grown bored with Samsung pushing out new devices with minimal changes, which is exactly why i left apple many years ago. I installed the beta 14 on my Pixel fold and not only has the battery life significantly improved, it also resolved a few minor glitches with the display and performance. I love being able to have a functional external display. Hell if i wanted to be forced to use the inner display, i may as well rock a i pad mini as my daily driver. For those who complain about stylus support, hell i have had probably every S, and Fold model from samsung, and i can count on one had how many times i have actually used the S Pen
I agree with you. I had the note 2, 3, and I never used the S-Pen.
I don't know why but I can never see the Fold 5 further than a secondary device. I can, however, see using the Pixel Fold as a main phone
It's the front screen
It's crazy I always got Samsung for many years after trying apple and not liking all the ways you can't personalize the apple phone
Ive had all the note series up to note 10 and than went Samsung fold starting with the fold 2 ,3,4 but decided to go with the pixel fold and love it even with all the compromises
Z flip 5 is nice. In a year you'll probably be moving back to Sammy as there are some huge things coming -=- The 'S24 Ultra' (since you were a note user) will have a titanium chassis along with the ability to text using satellites, so trusted sources are saying.
Can't believe Samsung didn't significantly increase the size of the outside screen. I thought it was a no brainer. Hence, I just ordered a pixel fold.
Not only that still can't use the s pen on the front
Not only that, still poor cameras & sharp crease,
If its sold here, wouldn’t mind trying google. As it goes now, fold 5 is the definitive choice for me. Coming from ios ecosystem, pixel lack of pen support is a down side for me. And the wide front screen is a horror for one handed
You are right! The ratio is the reason, the outside display i dont use. One phone is better for the ratio, Oppo Find N2.
Update: Now, Google Fold can utilize all apps in full screen.
Love the Z Fold phones being narrow so I can actually use it one handed... the Pixel Fold and any other normal sized phone become pretty awkward to use efficiently one handed, unless you have huge hands of course. If your using the "main" screen only 15% of the time you might as well just get a S23 Ultra or I Phone 14 pro.
I hear this argument a lot but I don't really think many of us are using our phones with one hand all that much. I would guess most of us are using both hands to interact with our phones the majority of the time. It's an esoteric "feature" or advantage that Samsung users bring up all the time. And as a current and previous user of both phones, this one-handed use benefit argument is moot because the Pixel Fold is just as easy one-handed as the ZFold.
Everyone is sure entitled to their own opinion on the matter. I think its safe to say that nobody should assume that people use their Folds closed or open more or less. I have bigger hands and I just find it 10x easier 1 handing the Fold 3 vs the S23 Ultra or even the Pixel Fold which I had my hands on recently. This day an age everyone is typically multitasking to some extent WHILE holding their phones, which you cant really multitask efficiently while trying to 2 hand a big phone. @@robg77
@@robg77 I disagree. I regularly use my phone one handed. Walking through the metro with a bag in one hand, replying to a message or sending a text with the other. It's a common use case if you are using your phone on the go in large cities. That being said, I primarily use my Fold open. I'd say I have it open about 90% of the time. I bought it to be a tablet first and phone second. Frankly they could remove the outside screen entirely and I'd be ok with it. Still, the major reason the Samsung is a better device is the Spen. With such a large screen I am able to do properly productive tasks on my Fold 5. I reference a dictionary in a pop-up window while using anki full screen. Ankidroid (a flashcard app that uses spaced repetition) has samsung Spen support built in with perfect palm rejection. Awesome for writing down my answers while doing my cards to cement the information in my mind. I use it for that purpose for at least 1.5 hours a day. Then I'm able to properly mark up and sign documents easily. I also have lightroom on my phone and use the pen to perform various edits. While a larger device would be even better for that, the fold screen is large enough to be productive. I probably knock out about 30 photos a day picking it up and editing here and there. On one shoot recently I dumped the camera contents directly to my phone and used the 5g connection to sync it up to the adobe cloud. This automatically cleared the full res raws from my phone, uploaded them, and then downloaded some smart previews to be edited instead. So I could shoot, dump the footage, back it up to my cloud and main PC rig back home, and perform some initial edits and deliver directly from a single device that fits in my pocket. Huge productivity tool for me.
By comparison I would find the Pixel fold to be essentially useless. Real Estate is there, but the ability to take advantage of that real estate is severely lacking.
Common propaganda mentioned by those who never used a Pixel Fold. Couldn't be further than the truth.
5:03 TEXT FROM GRACE: " I won't tell anyone"
this is the main reason i chose the pixel fold over the fold 5. The software will get better as developers update them (battery is really good for me i get the same time as with my 14pro im on android 14beta tho which i believe makes a huge difference) I just prefer being able to use the phone most of the time like a standard phone, then if i need a bigger screen its there. Also FYI i use the mobile version and have saved tabs for facebook, instagram and X when i use the inside screen which is perfectly optimixed. Then i use the app on the outer screen, perf compromise in the meantime until the app developers get on it.
Price is too rich for me.
THANK YOU! Great view! I am too a person that like samsung ecosystem but your points we're absolutely valid and made me consider.
Do you think this would be the same for z-flip?
By the way, this youtuber thing of dragging the point of the video to the 50-90% of the run drives me crazy.
I actually don't have patience anymore, and I begun skipping other channels to the point, and if I can't find quickly I unsub.
I got to admit it was the price that got me just couldn't do it.
I mean I got a pixel 7 for I think 499 on sale plus I got pixel A buds and so I couldn't talk myself into spending three times the amount for a phone with the same processor yes of course definitely cool with a fold but my pragmatic side just said no thank you for this time
Buying a folding phone to use the main screen 15% of the time.
Not targeting the average consumer are you!
The form factor of the Z fold is poor. Too tall and thin as a phone and not in landscape when unfolded. Pixel is better in both those respects. I will be going Pixel fold next gen
I agree and I would have bought Honor Magic v2 in a blink if it was available internationally.... Or if Samsung learns any lesson next year, but yeah really disappointed I can't buy one right now.
Vibo X Fold 2 destroys them both
Me too!!!!
Too tall for a phone? It has the same height as iPhone pro max...
Yeah, but not as wide. It's tall and thin and so as a phone it's poor and as a tablet it's OK. Google have their aspect ratio perfect@@vosk6481
Dude, how tall are you? Never seen anyone graping this phone so easily
Changed from the fold 4 to the pixel fold and do not regret it. Found the aspect ratio unusable on the fold 4
sticking with s23u. maybe pixelfold 2 if google does it right. zfolds front screen is just too small for me
That's the point. It pushes you to use the inner screen which is the reason why you bought the phone in the first place.
@@stinkinlincoln926it's incredibly frustrating to have to open the phone just to text when you can't text properly on front screen, or so anything on it, for that matter m
heres my idea of an Pixel. Give us the outside Screen as a normal Pixel Phone. A lot of people would buy it
The Pixel has a better form factor for sure but at that price with a chip like the Tensor 2 it's a pass for me... Google needs to get away from the Samsung made chip ASAP..
The executive who continues to choose the aspect ratio of 23:9 should be fired immediately without severance.
I will never own any phones like these if the battery is bad. What's the point of having all these features if the phone dies?
Id like to know why ur doing it ur why
Sounds like you have to compromise too much just to have a more familiar aspect ratio with Pixel. Personally, I actually love the narrow Fold screen.
Having the pixel fold dnt feel like a compromise. I'm missing nothing but maybe customisation from the z fold.
This is exactly the propaganda that Samsung wants everyone to believe. It's the furthest thing from the truth. Only experienced users know better.
I just want a two-screen phone, and not a foldable. If Samsung or Google released one, I would definitely make the switch from my iPhone since Microsoft dropped the ball...per usual.
I went from galaxy fold 3 to pixel fold and shitsung wint get another cent
As always, a great review. I think you nailed it at the end of the video. If Google comes out next year with big improvements and a stylus housed in the phone and Samsung continues with it's current aspect ratio, the Fold will probably draw some Samsung users over to the Fold.
I agree with your reasoning and enjoy your content. But from my viewpoint, $1800 for a foldable where you are using the outside screen 85% of the time...might as well get the S23U or the P7P and save $500-$600. 🤷
If you have android 14 beta battery life is way better it last me the whole day with only 1 charge a day
the Pixel Fold performs poorly when it comes to cell reception due to its Exynos modem it uses. i used to have one alongside my iPhone, and there were areas where the PF would either only get LTE or no service at all where i would have 5G or 5G+ on my iP. was an absolute joke.
I have read this, but never experienced this, so I would say the Pixel is more carrier coverage dependent, if it experience this issue at all. Too bad for you.
I love the size of the Pixel Fold
Fold 5 outer screen shows more info than the short screen of pixel fold. Btw: if you find the zfold cover keyboard too narrow to type, why don't you just turn the phone to landscape and you have a full size keyboard.
I get good battery life on my pixel fold
Hear me out guys this is going to be a longer respone:. I am an iphone user however i had to leave apple and advise you all to do the same or dont upgrade anymore and have 2 phones. Anyway, i switched to the s23 ultra, its perfect, was thinking of google pixel but not ready for it , and now fold 5. Well i impulse bought the fold 5 and guys this phone is it. The outer screen is just for one hand use, battery savings and not really supposed to be a huge screen. You buy a fold to open it up. And u fold it so its small in the pocket.the fold 5 is awesome because its almost like my favorite phone of all time iphone 5! Really miss those days. Im not use to android ecosystem yet but its been WAY BETTER on my end with texting, calling, customization, etc. Galaxy charges really fast and the battery is all day. All in all if you're on the fence get the fold 5. You'll love it
Glad you had positive experience going with a fold. There is always honeymoon stage, and there is always a better choice. Speaking from experience, the better experience will be the Pixel Fold. Unfortunately Samsung has strong propaganda and rumor mills to keep their customers from knowing.
Oh my God. That phone is covered in scratches. Why? Why didn't you get a case, or a brand skin or something? You just let $1,880 get scratched up and ruined. I didn't even dare use my pixel fold until I got my protective case & screen protectors.
Not a devoted fan of either company. I'm coming from the iPhone. The pixel fold looks like it was designed like 10+ years ago with the bezels. The crease is crazy visible, and it doesn't open flat. Plus, more of the apps are designed for the folds screen ratio and actually go full screen. The split screen limitations are stupid on the pixel. The front screen on the fold 5 is super easy to use and I have giant hands. I can not imagine buying the pixel over the fold for anything lol
Everything "negative" stated about the pixel is not real world usage. The bezels help you hold it without touching or applying undue pressure on the screen. The center crease is wider but less deep, so less visible when used. The opening a few degrees less than flat was corrected in late productions. The apps work fine now with latest updates, and also 90° rotation makes it exactly same as zFold, although with zFold I was always rotating the screen 90° to use two apps (for split screen). In my experience, it is always zFold users that do not have the opportunity to use the pixel Fold. Many reviewers that have other "folds" have kept going back to the pixel Fold. It is unfortunate for those to never experience the pixel Fold. I had two zFolds and it was a liberating experience to move onto the Pixel Fold. There are many factors that are never mentioned like the AI & call screening & latest Android versions & camera software abilities.
People complain too much
Great video. It would be nice if Samsung kind of copied the Pixel fold for the Fold 6. Would be nice to have a smaller phone form factor when closed and then mini tablet when opened like the Pixel fold. Google new what they were making and I am surprised Samsung did not think about it that way.
next pixel fold vl obviously be lit🔥