Brings back memories from decades ago when a very small, very old tank engine (can’t remember which one) also got stuck on that bank with a short but heavily loaded train, on a similar dank winter’s day.
75078 certainly wasn't short of steam! A couple of times I was reminded of the film of Blue Peter wrecking herself at Durham but at least the KWVR crew knew what they were doing.
Very enjoyable this took me back to my childhood with trips to the seaside on the south coast when all trains were pulled by magnificent steam trains my favourite was the Princess Class and Mallard and Sir Nigel Gresley but they were all great big or small🚂🧐
Hopefully they had the sanders on as it reversed. Leaving York by pushing back against the guardsvan brake and with sanded rails and released buffer compression one could get away reasonably. That is a tough curve and gradient for a damp day. A station pilot as banker would have been useful.
Possibly sticky coach brakes, from being parked up for the winter, and twice as much rain as usual. This is another good reason to use carriage sheds for old stock.
Keighley is always a drag for the engine being built on a curve the load will be greater starting off. When I stayed in Haworth a while back and took the train to Keighley, the engine on the return trip had a struggle setting off.
I’m your 500th sub 🙂 sticky brakes are forever a problem on aging coaching stock - fair play to the guys for getting it fixed. A couple of whacks with a hammer usually does the job 😂 hopefully all the wheel slip didn’t flat spot the tyres of the loco too much!
Always a difficult start from Keighley, uphill, on a curve with considerable drag from the coaches. In the early days, I experienced a similar problem with the Ship Canal tank, the fireman running ahead throwing cinders on the rails to assist adhesion.!
When was this filmed? For weeks, trains haven't been going into Keighley (the last trains into Keighley ran on New Year's day), but are turning round between Ingrow and Keighley because of engineering work at Keighley. The station is scheduled to reopen on 2nd March.
Sticky brakes somewhere I’d say - the wheel slip from the loco was more likely from the resistance of dragging a rake that doesn’t want to move and as regard uphill (from memory) it adds to the challenge.
I only see amateurs trying to play railway. You can have as many volunteers as you want, but if your product isn't good, your performance only will be poorly.
From a stationery dead stop, up the slope with that poor Engine pulling that much stock?? Many of the coaches were virtually empty. Crazy way to run your Motive Power. Your Ops Guy needs to explain?
No worse than the std4 tanks back in the mid 60's trying to depart Poole up Parkstone Bank, with load 3 off the S&D!! Some horrific slipping displays. On a curve,especially up grade, the weight is literally doubled. Had it myself with many locos over the years. Good effort from 75078 & it's crew in the end. JG.
Nice driving, didn’t let the slip run away with itself. It’s a steep climb out of Keighley.
Brings back memories from decades ago when a very small, very old tank engine (can’t remember which one) also got stuck on that bank with a short but heavily loaded train, on a similar dank winter’s day.
75078 certainly wasn't short of steam! A couple of times I was reminded of the film of Blue Peter wrecking herself at Durham but at least the KWVR crew knew what they were doing.
Very enjoyable this took me back to my childhood with trips to the seaside on the south coast when all trains were pulled by magnificent steam trains my favourite was the Princess Class and Mallard and Sir Nigel Gresley but they were all great big or small🚂🧐
I’m glad youtube had this show up in my feed. Great work. Subscribed.
Cheers and thank you!
Hopefully they had the sanders on as it reversed. Leaving York by pushing back against the guardsvan brake and with sanded rails and released buffer compression one could get away reasonably. That is a tough curve and gradient for a damp day. A station pilot as banker would have been useful.
Possibly sticky coach brakes, from being parked up for the winter, and twice as much rain as usual.
This is another good reason to use carriage sheds for old stock.
Doubt it, they have a two road carriage shed at Oxenhope for all their stock that's in traffic.
Got nothing to do with sticky brakes.
@@loco42041Clearly the crew suspected sticky brakes as they could be seen checking them.
Good to see one our Southern allocated engines again. 75078 was one our Basingstoke based engines when I was firing there back in the 1960s..
Keighley is always a drag for the engine being built on a curve the load will be greater starting off. When I stayed in Haworth a while back and took the train to Keighley, the engine on the return trip had a struggle setting off.
I am sorry for your troubles, but I enjoyed the video very much. I only regret I was not there to share the experience.
Just subscibed reall y enjoyed watching this keep posting more
Have been alongside that curve when a local yobbo was out putting oil onto the rails.
I’m your 500th sub 🙂 sticky brakes are forever a problem on aging coaching stock - fair play to the guys for getting it fixed. A couple of whacks with a hammer usually does the job 😂 hopefully all the wheel slip didn’t flat spot the tyres of the loco too much!
Ooo! Thanks for subbing! Crikey, 500 subs! I feel a bit blessed and a wee bit humble! Cheers!
@@transportinterests5371 no worries - happy to support you 🙂
Wheel slip does not cause flat spots; braking does.
@@layd999 No, but it does cause "wheel burns" or dips in the rail head which can be troublesome.
As said before nothing to do with sticking brakes
Always a difficult start from Keighley, uphill, on a curve with considerable drag from the coaches.
In the early days, I experienced a similar problem with the Ship Canal tank, the fireman running ahead throwing cinders on the rails to assist adhesion.!
it did wheelspin light engine aswell so might be stiff regulator ,but deffo brakes rubbing n carriages can hear that
Poor Adision!! Wet Rails tight curve.
Beautiful Station Keighley. The one time I went there a few decades ago that ugly American war department loco was running. Really disappointing 😕
Big Jim legend of an engine 😊
I think I can 🚂... I think I can 🚂... lol 😂
Nice video, great channel, subbed 👍🏼
Thank you, much appreciated!
nice video i subscribed u chanal cheers from netherlands
Damp slippery days definitely needs a banker
520 sub's , great video of a different departure from Keighley .
Thanks for the sub! Cheers!
As it ever was! Trying to lift 6, up hill, cold wet rail, on Keighley curve will always be a bit of an issue.
Yea it doesn't help when the loco slips I remember back in 2012 when the class 50 Brent out it's traction moters on the bank
Not the first loco to struggle out of Keighley, don’t know why they haven’t got a permanent banker, cost I suppose.
Any use of sanders, I wonder?
magical shot at 4;45
Wot no sand? 😳
The Locos seem to wheel slip on the same part of the track.
That's why you often see a diesel bank engine the other end !
As a former fireman/driver whydo they feel the need to try and give it more steam if its moving leave the regulator alone
When was this filmed? For weeks, trains haven't been going into Keighley (the last trains into Keighley ran on New Year's day), but are turning round between Ingrow and Keighley because of engineering work at Keighley. The station is scheduled to reopen on 2nd March.
2018 I think! I should have included the date!😁
Why were all those buses not moving?
Dedicated school buses. Cheers.
Think your caps lock was stuck on when you wrote the title of the video
Who was that funny dude in the black suit shouting away 😂🤣😂
drawbar resistance = adhesion , power is irrelevant, nothing's moving
Didn't they not have any sand in the sandboxes?
Due to the pointwork, of the crossover from Platform 3, the use of sand is discouraged until the loco has got a bit further up the hill.
What was the problem?
Bit of a slippery day it would seem.
Sticky brakes somewhere I’d say - the wheel slip from the loco was more likely from the resistance of dragging a rake that doesn’t want to move and as regard uphill (from memory) it adds to the challenge.
sharp curve with associated check rails in the mix........
I only see amateurs trying to play railway. You can have as many volunteers as you want, but if your product isn't good, your performance only will be poorly.
It's a notoriously difficult gradient
From a stationery dead stop, up the slope with that poor Engine pulling that much stock?? Many of the coaches were virtually empty. Crazy way to run your Motive Power. Your Ops Guy needs to explain?
explain what?
I didn’t see any stationery.
You should have seen City of Truro slipping when trying to pull a train out of Keighley, when it visited the railway some years ago.
No worse than the std4 tanks back in the mid 60's trying to depart Poole up Parkstone Bank, with load 3 off the S&D!! Some horrific slipping displays. On a curve,especially up grade, the weight is literally doubled. Had it myself with many locos over the years. Good effort from 75078 & it's crew in the end. JG.
@@drewmog123456 There was some in that newspaper stall on the platform! 😅