How Crystal Maiden's Freezing Field Actually Works
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- In this video I go over some aspects of Crystal Maiden's Freezing Field that I thought might not be as well known, or that I just didn't know about. The spell has some interesting mechanics to it that you don't necessarily need to know to use it efficiently, but knowing them could give you an advantage in certain cases, so that's why I had an interest in it.
Hopefully you learn something new with me :3
Check out my other video where I do a similar look into Warlock's Fatal Bonds - • How Warlock's Fatal Bo... - Hry
Hi everyone, thanks a bunch for all of the support. Its been very motivating!
I wanted to address a good question a lot of people brought up which was - does the ice explosion starting location depend on the way Crystal Maiden is facing? And the answer is, no. It will always start in the northeast segment.
I hope you keep up the informative content! The community really needs this stuff
I love this video, love stuff like this and I think a lot of people would. you should make more like this.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm working on more videos like this 👍
correct me if i am wrong but this would mean CM is slightly stronger on radiant as u will be coming from the bottom left side of the map therefore landing your damage on the first quadrant compared to CM on dire as u will be coming from the top right, it will take until the 3rd quadrant to actually land the icicles on an enemy. its a miniscule advantage though all things considered
Well CM was sentinel (radiant) hero
Considering how strong CM’s ulti is, this can quite well affect this hero’s performance
Yeah that’s actually a good point, and probably true. Like you said though, minuscule, but something to consider still.
@@zzadrianzz anyways, thanks for this great video, played a lot of CM but never knew about this mechanics. subscribed :D
I play cm allot and this is true especially in Early since its easier to burst people
did anyone else get this video recommended and never watched it until you gave up?
Glad I finally did, very well explained and illustrated :)
I really like this type of content! I've always been an avid tester for many of the heroes especially Pangolier, Timbersaw, Venomancer and Nyx. To know some of the minor details of the skill mechanics really helps you to adjust and get a better grip on various possible playstyles.
Keep it up! I really enjoyed the analysis you've done with Freezing Field.
I agree, knowing the specifics on some mechanics can make a big difference and it's fun to learn. Dota is a great game in that sense.
Thanks for the feedback!
Nyx spammer here, curious if youve uploaded that stuff anywhere or are willing to share needlessly deep mechanics on him? Would love to know 👀
I really thought that cm ult was simply just an aoe damage over time but, its actually more complex. This vid is really helpful.
I hope you do more of these.
It literally says in the description that its damage is based on falling cristalsm
Thanks! Very appreciated. More coming soon!
@@alexworm1707 Yeah but that's still vague. You dont immediately realize any pattern at first glance so it's actually not so simple. The video is really insightful regarding this.
@@bryanmavis8771 there is also the fact that many of the descriptions in dota arent accurate to how the skills/items actually work
@@polppa2348 yeah the description always different each ability.
Do you know about dota 2 tickrate teleport and relocate?
Played dota for 17 years and never thought that cm ulti is this complex. W video.
after thousands of hours in this game, you still get amazed and learn new things, thank you mate, very well explained :D
Very detailed breakdown! Love it! Keep it coming!
love this deep dive into mechanics, especially for CM. Thanks for the great video
Thanks a bunch! :] Hope you learned something from it.
@@zzadrianzz I'm immortal & rank 30 in CM and I never knew the NE area took damage first. It will matter someday, and that extra kill will be thanks to you :D
@@cbpuzzleworm9616 Oh dang, that's awesome! Congratz on getting that rank that's a really cool accomplishment. That makes it even better that I could give some new info to someone as experienced as you, so thanks for sharing! Do you play in NA? Just wondering if I'd ever run into you in pubs :P
@@zzadrianzz circling back to this 4mo later because I literally just killed someone by hitting them for 70 damage instantly in the NE spawn point for this ult and I owe you that thanks. I do play NA and if you ever see a player named Demon in the 4/5 role it could be me :)
Love it! Your vidos are great dude :)
I hope I can come up with a similar idea of content for dota, been wanting to make some content for a long time but not sure what to make yet.
Keep it up! People loving this and your presentation and explanations are on point!
Thanks, very appreciated! Excited to see what kind of videos you decide to make. Fully support the want to make stuff!
I have 8000+ hours in DotA but this Information is completely new for me. Glad to Really learn something new. Subbing for more !:)
Wow man this the most interesting Chanel ive seen about this game congratz
love your explanation bro! love it!
Thanks for the Effort. I did not know this. More like this 💪
Great video, hoping for more of these type of videos 😊
Actually had no idea about the way freezing field starts at one corner of the screen even after 20k hours of dota... Very good video.
Subscribed. This is so useful. I hope to see much of other heroes
Thank you! And you will for sure see more!
More of these nerdy infos. Love it!
Thanks! Very appreciated :3 More are coming!
Appreciate this in-depth information 👍
Thanks! Very appreciated
This is the content I need.. subscribed
Thank you! :)
please make more of this.. very helpful
That was really informative, ty
Good content! Looking forward to more
Thanks! More is coming.
I could read all these info again on the wiki, but it's so much better when someone presents it in a lecture still. Part of why is still play is that DotA appeals to the part of me that used to be good with math.
As a CM main - thank you. Didn't know these infos
Helpful and brief.amazing
that video was very informative thx man.... great job
Good to know that. Great video!
nice video, thx for making it. really informative ❤
Amazing content mate!
Thank you for this video!
thanks for these man
I was always wondering how it was possible to simply change the visuals for the arcana - from an icicle to a ground explosion - and now I know that actually the explosions better represent what's really happening.
i have 3 rampages with cm and still didnt knew all these stuff, more videos like this pls👌
Good job Adrian !!
I subscribed because I need more videos like this.
Wow! What a brilliant content 👏👏
Amazing video great information ❤❤make more of this 👍🏻
Well, Every day sth new to learn in Dota! Thanks man
This guy knows how to make a P E R F E C T circle
I think I have 500 games with cm and up until now I only eyeballed the radius, this is great to know!
@zzADRiANzz just curious, do the cycle of damage change base on the direction that was CM facing when she casted the FF or it always starts at NE quarter regardless of her facing direction? I don't play dota2 anymore so I cannot test this by myself :D
Good question. The answer is that it doesn't matter which way CM is facing, it'll always start in the northeast quarter.
I have also noticed that it deals more damage at the center as the aoe explosions overlap at a higher frequency than at the outer edge of the field
Does it still? It used to, but they made some changes to it
nice video keep it up bro !
The video is so straight to the point it reminds me of the random indian lectures i found on yt
😆
I learnt something new after 10 years of dota
this video should put on dota official tutorial, but its too much since dota is so complex and a lot of unique abilities, this channel kinda help and entertaining
First of all, I’m a simple guy, I see CM, I clicked.
Secondly, good job for the video. Keep it up. I like nerdy stuff of dota like yenkins did.
Third, I was wondering about your theory of counter clockwise her ult. Was it depending on where her face stand up to. Like is it going to be the same if you channel it but you were facing on other direction? Cuz it appears to me the counter clock theory might be depending on where her face standing to. But who knows. Maybe I was wrong.
Thank you!
As far as I've noticed it always goes counterclockwise, no matter which way she's facing.
Great vid 👍🏻
Really helpful, I was wondering why my cm ult has no dmg
That some good information.
10 years and never knew this shit, felt it was rng
We make fun of Dota being in beta.
But the true heroes are the few devs that allow such mayhem of a cluster f*** of a game to function.
And even adding ability draft mode on top of all chaos.
This is a very wonderful video and I hope there's more to come, I am sure videos like this would affect some people's grasp on the game's complexity, and the work behind it.
P.s. still in beta though
Does freezing field in arcana and normal different? Because freezing field in arcana have a visual clockwise direction
Man i remember reading all about the spell back in dota 1, seems it hasnt changed much.
Something interesting was that exposions that spawn close to her or in the axis lines, the aoe will hit other cuadrants, thats why next to cm deals so much damage, but also the axis lines are super dangerous compared to the 45°degree lines
It actually doesn't matter. It might seem like there should be edge effects near the coordinate axes, but the overlap between quadrants exactly cancels out the decreased chance of hitting near the edge from the other side. I'm not sure I'm explaining it well, but I could probably demonstrate with a picture. Unless you're tracking things down to a fraction of a second, it doesn't matter whether targets are a multiple of 90° from CM.
The reason explosions hit near CM more than far away is because of the way random numbers were generated for the spell. At least in DotA 1, it worked like this. First, a random distance r was chosen uniformly between r_min and r_max (whatever those minimum and maximum distances were). Then, a random angle θ was chosen uniformly between 0 and 360°. Then the comet fell at position (r,θ) (in polar coordinates, centered on CM).
This means that any given distance from CM has roughly the same number of comets. So like, you would expect to see as many comets 300-400 distance from CM as 600-700 distance on average. But that outer ring is much larger than the inner ring, so comets are effectively concentrated much more closer to CM. I don't know if this was deliberate or accidental, but it means you will tend to take more damage if you are relatively close to CM than if you are farther away. At least in DotA 1 anyway; I'm not actually sure how it works in Dota 2.
I was going to ask if the quadrants are based on the direction CM is facing, but I guess it isn't. Great video though! I learned a lot even though I primarily spam CM on rank.
Good video need more like dis
if I'm not mistaken you can see that circling radius thing in cm's persona when using ulti.
I'm pretty sure your description of the spawn locations is incorrect, on the basis that there was multiple occurences of the 3rd icicle being in the southeast quadrant, and mostly the southwest. But when the southeast was selected, the 2nd icicle appeared very close to the end of the northwest quadrant.
So I believe it is choosing to add radians between a threshold of approximately 90 - to ~120.
This would ensure that you can't get 3 icicles very near, but double icicles is reasonably possible.
It also makes sense because in most methods of mathematics, radians are calculated as east = 0degrees. And North = 90 etc.
I still remember when magnus in my team do rp in 4 people and skewer them under my ult. That's was amazing, because they don't get a single hit for 3+ seconds and just run away
Haha, u have to buy dota plus for that
Why not?
So are the explosions at all relative to the orientation of the hero? Or will the first explosions always begin in the north-eastern quadrant of the circle?
Good question. The explosion will always be in the northeast, no matter which way CM is facing.
Great video. The spell always seemed kinda weird. The only question I have left is what is the explosion radius? Is it possible to at least estimate it knowing how far you can put bs from 810 before it stops hitting him?
It's 320 AoE. You can get all the details from the Dota 2 wiki.
So does CM's facing direction not affect the quadrants at all?
They're always aligned to the map?
True, the way CM is facing does not affect where the ice explosions start. It'll always be in the northeast segment.
A glimpse into Dota if there were actual content creators. Great stuff, havent seen it before, theres definitely a so-far empty niche for explaining mechanics that nobody bothers looking into (like Marblr does for Overwatch 2)
Thank you! I didn't know about Marblr, but I appreciate the comparison because they seem like they make very interesting videos.
so if you want to run away from cm it is superior to run clockwise rather than counterclockwise since you cant get hit in a sequence. Or rather, if you want to fight inside the cm ulti you should continuously move clockwise to take the least amount of damage from it.
Theoretical Yes, Practical you probalby will Walk too Slow to make a difference there. And if you could Walk freely then because you are Magic Immune anyways. I believe Moving Straight to the southeast makes more difference then counterckock walking
I learn a lot, ofc i am dota 2 10+ years player and this is first time I'm seeing this. Ofc.
Is the quadrant dependant on which way CM is facing?
Does the direction CM is facing matter with this? I wonder if you can control the explosions by having a shard and spinning clockwise at one place
Interesting question
was wondering the same.. thank u for clarification person above
FF hits enemies out of radius.
Gaben: Nerfing time.
i didnt know about aftercast aghs, and that slow doesnt work outside the radius, didn't know that aghs frostbite only works once per ult, and that theres a quartercircling order in icicles, does it matter where CM is looking or is it always upper right, upper left, lower left, lower right
It's always upper right
Nice information. Nerd stuff, but I like it!
Liked and subbed. Hoping for more content!
Great explanation. You could become a great programmer :)
i plaid for 54654 years and this is new to me :D
Does arcane blink make more explosions happen faster?
Hello! NE is world coordinates or hero-related? (behind left arm?)
question: the first explosion is in the north east corner or left-back from cm pov. Does it matter the direction cm is facing?
Nope, it's always in the northeast no matter which way CM is facing.
@@zzadrianzz Thank you. Very informative video.
More content like this pls, +1
Thank it usefull when i need to use ult at shot time cuz sometime i wanna burst but skill alway miss
I have exams tomorrow but I need to learn how cm’s ult worked. Exams can wait
that explains why sometimes enemies do not instantly receive damage when i casted ult
very nice
Cool video bro
I think aghanim's scepter doesn't add a new aura, the spell itself is an aura. Because heroes that enter the ult radius get slowed instantly, no matter if they got hit by the explosion or not.
The Aghanim's scepter one is a general case. I think the game first checks for whether you have an Aghs or not in your inventory. Then it applies an upgrade to your spell at the time of casting. So in theory, Aghs upgrade still works if you cast ulti then backpack it while ulti is channeling to swap out for a refresher or some shit(not that you'd want to anymore since Aghs blessing is a thing now).
nah the entire functionality of agh's is that there's a specific modifier ( as in, the base class of all buffs and debuffs - item stats work by applying an invisible passive to your hero while they're equipped ) property that just says if the modifier counts as an agh's buff or not. the agh's upgrades are handled by the spells themselves, and subsequently there's some spells that update the moment you equip agh's and some that just check if you have agh's at the start of their effect
there's no real consistency to it, and this goes for shard ( which actually works in the exact same way, just with a different modifier property ) and talents as well
@@hi-i-am-atan the ones that update on aghs equip are the ones that dont need to be channeled. Channeled spells like freezing field and black hole dont get upgraded on equip.
You should explain how Wraith King's ultimate works.
thats really what we need as herald.
Great content! Play with softening your mic settings see how you feel about the sound. :)
Will do, thanks. I'm still trying to figure that stuff out to make it sound good 🙈
As a CM main, blink, ghost, and shadow amulet are already core items to me. I always prioritize amulet especially when there's no cc. If there is then it's okay but you need proper positioning. I played pos 4 and 5, it brought me up to divine rank. Mind you, I'm at a sea server where it's very toxic and hard to rank up especially support playets.
This is true dota content
As a Mathematics enjoyer , i demand the counterclockwise angle notation please :(
as a supp main i kinda noticed the clockwise pattern before but never actually tested it, this is huge, feel like if youre on dire then youre kinda forced to dive a bit to get that North East hit which isnt cool
does where cm is facing matter?
👏👏 freezing field meta 💯
There's also a moment with slow effect.
It's applied on whole AoE with start of casting. It is not very useful to cast and immediately cancel your ult in real games, but in some cases this simple trick can help your team with making some kills.
The slow now lasts for the entire duration of the spell. (It used to only last 1 second.) It gets applied as soon as the spell is cast and reapplied to all units in the 810 AoE every 0.1 seconds. The slow lasts for 1 second, which means after an enemy leaves the AoE, or after casting is cancelled, the slow will persist for a further 0.9-1.0 seconds. It's actually a very powerful slow, but yeah, the linger duration isn't too long.
yo pls do more content like this
no bloodsickers were harmed during filming
Can i show how ods astral imprisonment works it seems to have a lot more range than it should have
You*
great video but I think you forgot the most overlooked effect of freezing field. The +20 armor.
is it always North west camera wise? what happens if shes facing a different direction
Yes, it'll always start in the northeast segment camera wise, no matter which way CM is facing.