Helldivers 2 Wins the Major Order Against Sony

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  • @Strigon01
    @Strigon01 Před měsícem +1352

    "Let them come. Let them brawl. Let them face the insurmountable might of the Helldivers."

    • @anonnymus3652
      @anonnymus3652 Před měsícem +148

      Another victory for the right side of history

    • @umngyr
      @umngyr Před měsícem +105

      You have carved another foothold in the long climb to liberty

    • @animemuse8613
      @animemuse8613 Před měsícem +93

      Victory was never in doubt

    • @Morbak546
      @Morbak546 Před měsícem +31

      Victory was never in doubt

    • @themissingpeace7956
      @themissingpeace7956 Před měsícem +31

      FOR SUPER EARTH!

  • @ryanvacation7319
    @ryanvacation7319 Před měsícem +672

    The mad lads of the Helldivers community pulled off a miracle. Never in my wildest dreams I’d imagine Sony would capitulate. Well done boys!

    • @thelaststop41
      @thelaststop41 Před měsícem +48

      Haven’t seen player pushback like that since war thunder.

    • @TheCosta5000
      @TheCosta5000 Před měsícem +17

      Don't forget the mad ladies

    • @CaptainRumPanda
      @CaptainRumPanda Před měsícem +34

      you dont mess with a community that can take back malevelon creek, kill 2 billion bugs in 12 hours and defended ESTANU 7 times hahahaha

    • @joellee8077
      @joellee8077 Před měsícem +24

      Hell, the entire game is designed on training large amounts of players to work together, but seeing this backfiring on Sony is just so funny.

    • @TheCosta5000
      @TheCosta5000 Před měsícem +3

      @CaptainRumPanda God damn, I feel like there should never be another bug on estanu ever again we've been there so many times.

  • @ShiningDarknes
    @ShiningDarknes Před měsícem +394

    Funny thing is it took us about the same amount of time a MO lasts to get it done, certainly helped there was only one planet available to drop on.

    • @justaguyonyoutube4592
      @justaguyonyoutube4592 Před měsícem +27

      Coincidence?
      I THINK NOT!

    • @2Limm
      @2Limm Před měsícem +38

      ​@@justaguyonyoutube4592 Joel don't control real life, Joel don't control real life, Joel don't con

    • @pradyumnarout8402
      @pradyumnarout8402 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@2Limm Spawns a Warp drive for the bugs to breach super Earth

    • @brizzled5193
      @brizzled5193 Před měsícem +6

      @@2Limm Joel nearly collapsed Super Earth by capturing Sony Headquarters! Thank god helldivers saved the day

  • @iwishihadgoodinternet7766
    @iwishihadgoodinternet7766 Před měsícem +524

    Now if steam would put it back on sale for the countries they removed it from, then we're golden.

    • @Akrilloth
      @Akrilloth Před měsícem +89

      Its gonna take a day or two, most likely.

    • @SnakeHoundMachine
      @SnakeHoundMachine Před měsícem +4

      *sony

    • @DawgAC
      @DawgAC Před měsícem +9

      Thank you for reminding me I actually forgot about this.

    • @CharChar2121
      @CharChar2121 Před měsícem +19

      ​@@SnakeHoundMachine*steam

    • @gonzalomartinez6219
      @gonzalomartinez6219 Před měsícem +15

      @@Akrilloth it will take them some hours as soon as Valve guys wake up at Seattle. I hope so.

  • @hivecasts
    @hivecasts Před měsícem +272

    They fear the insurmountable might of Helldivers!

  • @hshik-og3yz
    @hshik-og3yz Před měsícem +237

    HOW'D YOU LIKE THE TASTE OF FREEDOM, SONY?!

    • @willjohnboy
      @willjohnboy Před měsícem +4

      Tastes of money.

    • @KeyserSoze7182
      @KeyserSoze7182 Před měsícem

      ​@user-ts2ir4hc5rYou can't even bid with showing you have money. Clearly you don't know how that works.

    • @RealityAlwaysWins
      @RealityAlwaysWins Před měsícem

      DEMOCRACY NEVER SLEEPS!

    • @AhuizotlXiuh
      @AhuizotlXiuh Před měsícem +1

      We have maintained our way of life.

    • @strf90105
      @strf90105 Před měsícem

      ​@willjohnboy they can take our money, but not our data

  • @Logajam.
    @Logajam. Před měsícem +168

    Shocking, a game that rewards teaming up and watching each others backs, is filled with people who care about the fate of other players who would be adversely affected by policy changes...

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 Před měsícem +22

      First they show a possible end to the console wars and they show the unity isn't just artificial??? Arrowhead really is trying to become a staple of gaming

    • @cbonez2909
      @cbonez2909 Před měsícem +2

      We all had our reasons. I had a few not just that... This was a major battle won!! I will be diving once again. We did our part. Now it's time to get back to spreading democracy!!

    • @Yescek
      @Yescek Před měsícem +1

      @@samuraitadpole5459 I feel like I saw almost nobody who wasn't on board with the fight. So to me it was that meme of the body builder dudes shaking hands, y'know, the one with the red and white shirts? One side, PC players. The other side, PS players.

  • @gastro_fork
    @gastro_fork Před měsícem +216

    Now to change our reviews back to positive

    • @ShiningDarknes
      @ShiningDarknes Před měsícem +53

      Indeed, do your part. The negative reviews were a necessary evil to combat tyranny. Make things right. The second MO just dropped.

    • @v2ycloud
      @v2ycloud Před měsícem +32

      Its still unavailable to be purchased in the non PSN countries, as of now. Maybe if they reverse that, people will start changing their reviews.

    • @Earliersphere
      @Earliersphere Před měsícem +18

      I would edit it but not go positive until after the 30th, other wise Sony may flip again. Hold the line for now

    • @thelegendaryklobb2879
      @thelegendaryklobb2879 Před měsícem +28

      Not yet, the store page stll has the PSN requirement notice. And the Playstation tweet seems like it will have a followup with more clarifications in these days, we have to wait for a more complete statement and a policy change.

    • @royalnovember66
      @royalnovember66 Před měsícem +8

      I'll wait until new helldiver recruits from non-PSN countries can get in once again.

  • @dindunuphenwong
    @dindunuphenwong Před měsícem +57

    By "We're still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable." they mean "We got caught with our hands in Steams cookie jar."

    • @nimbusws2566
      @nimbusws2566 Před měsícem +18

      Ironically but not surprisingly, the best thing they could have done after the game had gotten momentum with the dev team at the helm was… nothing. They could have contentedly sat back and watched the money come in, instead of insisting on double dipping trying to get everyone’s personal information to sell as well.
      They came. They brawled. They felt the insurmountable might of the helldivers.
      But they may come again, greedy fucks.

    • @dindunuphenwong
      @dindunuphenwong Před měsícem

      @@nimbusws2566 Keep in mind the vast majority of the countries that can't make a PSN account still don't have access to Helldivers 2 on steam.

  • @kompott_addict
    @kompott_addict Před měsícem +228

    Cogratulations soldiers, we did it! o7

  • @weslar7
    @weslar7 Před měsícem +92

    This is the kind of thing we need to do more often, hold the line brothers

    • @DawgAC
      @DawgAC Před měsícem

      APES TOGETHER STRONG!!!

  • @5dollar_L
    @5dollar_L Před měsícem +85

    Good to know that companies can still be reminded that the customer is king. It’s easy to think that these megacorps are completely untouchable, but in great enough numbers consumers can make companies change their minds.
    Massive W for all my fellow Helldivers out there.

    • @Starkee749
      @Starkee749 Před měsícem +2

      Sony did it because they were worried about lack of sales which means less money not because they hold us in high regard.

    • @flamingscar5263
      @flamingscar5263 Před měsícem

      @@Starkee749 they hold our wallets in high regard
      our wallets that only we can open for them

    • @nimbusws2566
      @nimbusws2566 Před měsícem +15

      @@Starkee749well of course, it’s naive to think companies will grow a moral compass. Which is why we communicate with them the way they know how: profits and optics.

    • @Starkee749
      @Starkee749 Před měsícem

      @@nimbusws2566 exactly I was referring to the post saying Sony thinking customer's are king nothing could be further from the truth they will shaft us if they can. It's good we started making noise. Great for the game. They will try it again I bet it's just not scheduled for this month i hope I'm wrong.

    • @RealityAlwaysWins
      @RealityAlwaysWins Před měsícem +2

      I despise how they said they’re still learning, these megacorps don’t even play games! They’re out of touch with the gamer, and this just proves it.

  • @KsnypsAdventures
    @KsnypsAdventures Před měsícem +63

    It’s amazing what this game has accomplished. The largest playerbase in the shortest amount of time, the most praise in recent years, the biggest business fuck up in gaming history, and now, the best comeback. We made Sony back off. Let that sink in. They own half the world’s electronics and the Helldivers made them surrender.
    *another victory for the right side of history*

    • @votingwarrior7000
      @votingwarrior7000 Před měsícem +1

      I don't think we made them surrender but we sure as hell made them flinch

    • @RealityAlwaysWins
      @RealityAlwaysWins Před měsícem

      This is the true meaning of power to the people, these minorities who try to push their crap on us will never succeed as long as we fight back. We will always win as long as we’re not the silent majority.

  • @Jabokrazy
    @Jabokrazy Před měsícem +97

    Now we make sure they don't screw us again.

    • @SPJ-88
      @SPJ-88 Před měsícem +10

      probably not in Helldiver2, but 100% sure all coming games porting to Steam will require PSN link.

    • @BD-tp6pr
      @BD-tp6pr Před měsícem +2

      @@SPJ-88 Well... they realize now they can't sell the game in many countries, so would they want that? They'll probably try it first so you get some in game goodies I think.

    • @noble_lemon
      @noble_lemon Před měsícem

      What they doing on Steam then? Sell your games in Playstation store only and swim in money.

    • @Babylauncher3000
      @Babylauncher3000 Před měsícem

      @@SPJ-88 When it comes to Sony’s high profile single player games I sincerely doubt it. For future multiplayer games it honestly depends.

  • @JohnnyVanilla1
    @JohnnyVanilla1 Před měsícem +101

    Huge W for indie devs and gaming in general. Democracy prevails

  • @Jazzglenn
    @Jazzglenn Před měsícem +27

    3:57 JESUS CHRIST. Im not even on my PC and im retroactively spamming "E" in my mind the whole time.

    • @hunter-tm2kl
      @hunter-tm2kl Před měsícem +2

      you'll see big rare sample clumps like that on the 15 mins rescue scientist missions that are only available on defend planets

  • @oliveguardian7757
    @oliveguardian7757 Před měsícem +17

    Only thing is, the wording of this tweet worries me. It says the forced link won’t be coming this month. Not that it won’t ever happen. Seems like they’ve given themselves a loophole out for this issue to just come up later

  • @Dynamous7812
    @Dynamous7812 Před měsícem +28

    No diver left behind!

  • @Tinytraveler
    @Tinytraveler Před měsícem +12

    May 6th should be a in game holiday, Sweet Liber-Tea day, or Unification day

    • @andrewdesalvatore7262
      @andrewdesalvatore7262 Před měsícem +1

      hehe, i like the lil loadscreen pop ups... ingame/actualLore, Oct26 is Liberty Day.

  • @chaosXP3RT
    @chaosXP3RT Před měsícem +27

    I'm afraid we probably already lost a lot Helldivers who won't return to the game

    • @animemuse8613
      @animemuse8613 Před měsícem +5

      But some of them are coming back

    • @UmbraWeiss
      @UmbraWeiss Před měsícem +6

      I for one won't even change my review, I was already at my limit with the idiotic patches and crashing,this was just the cherry on the top.

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem

      Myself being one of them. My entire reason for supporting this game outside of it obviously being generally enjoyable was how the development team worked on the game and interacted with their community. Games like palworld, lethal company, and helldivers up until this week are the breath of fresh air the be gaming community has needed for a long time. Having responsive developers that are genuinely invested in both creating and maintaining a great product for people to enjoy and do the right things along the way. To essentially be flawless in your movements up until this point and then quite honestly collapse into an xbox live chat from 2009 the second they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar a little bit speaks volumes for me as a consumer. I was on their side right up until they openly admitted that before they even signed on with sony that they would make this a requirement. Because one of three things happened at that point: 1.) Arrowhead neglected to properly inform themselves of signing with another company would ultimately impact the distribution and management of the game they spent "8 years of blood sweat and tears on" and Im sorry, but negligence doesnt excuse screwing over 100's of thousands of people in over 170 countries over. Idc what the reason is. Get better litigation.
      2.) They WERE aware of this to start and were willing to gamble with 100's of thousands of peoples money in those 170+ countries in hopes that if the game hit it big enough that they would be able to retroactively nullify that part of the agreement they made with sony when partnering with them. Playing games with peoples money like this is extremely gross and unacceptable.
      3.) They WERE aware and either thought there wouldnt be enough people in those regions for it to really be a big fuss, or worse; outright didnt care that those people would be screwed.
      None of these outcomes are acceptable. At least one of these things took place and to me, you're crossing the line of what should be considered the bare minimum in any of those results. Just like the community held sonys feet to the fire for this, now that we have more context of arrowheads role in this, they TOO need to have their feet held to the fire. Id say refunding money spent on warbonds would be amicable, but I know that would never happen. They at bare minimum should be making the next warbond completely free for everyone as an apology for their role in all of this. But what doesnt need to happen is them just getting to wipe their hands and get out of this scott free because they absolute had dirty hands in this process.

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@UmbraWeissaside from the book I just wrote, the fact that I have a $3000 computer and have to manipulate game files and display settings to even run it "properly" just because I have an amd card.... Ridiculous.

    • @Roberta-yf4ge
      @Roberta-yf4ge Před měsícem

      ​@@chrisbruchak4519my game has been running fine on a 7900xtx. What did you have to fix?

  • @DaveBirra
    @DaveBirra Před měsícem +9

    We want that written in "Stone!" And with a clause, that they will not do this again in the future, and if they do it, they can be sue by gamers.

  • @humaninthemaking9024
    @humaninthemaking9024 Před měsícem +63

    Unless there's pen to paper, they're just going to try again in like 6 months. And this time you won't be able to refund it. We won the battle though so time to sip that LIBER-TEA

    • @pse2020
      @pse2020 Před měsícem +5

      After the mob mentality and hate sony got, i am supriced pc gamers are coming back... I would not, this is not over yet. If people hate sony this much they should still stay away.

    • @squeezyjibbs6643
      @squeezyjibbs6643 Před měsícem +39

      ​@@pse2020our love for HD2 and Arrowhead exceeds our hate for Sony, all there is to it.

    • @matttheyak
      @matttheyak Před měsícem +5

      'Unless there's pen to paper' what do you want though, a legally binding contract with the playerbase?

    • @ExplodingVolcano777
      @ExplodingVolcano777 Před měsícem +1

      @@pse2020Unfortunate but justified reason not to come back. Helldivers 2 was a game me and my pals could enjoy after a long day of work since we didn’t need to worry about cross play. I and alongside them understand the risk of sony pulling a fast one on us again but we will still play..

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před měsícem +1

      I really don’t think so.. valve showed them how much money they were going to and will lose.. and also.. sony wants the pc market.
      They’re never doing this again. Trust..
      Ghost of Tsushima is coming out.. they don’t want to risk that.. they just really needed to see how much $$$ was goign to be lost doing this.. and i think its WAYYY more than peopel think.
      Don’t forget.. on that list of countires thats a no go.. are the biggest populations IN THE WORLD. Why would you pull a console on the pc?
      Pc is big big big big big money

  • @davidmorin4283
    @davidmorin4283 Před měsícem +5

    You mention having fun: I have an idea. Give the heavy machine gun a backpack. This balances it a bit more by removing your backpack slot when you take it, and buffs it by giving it more than 75 rounds. Possibly to limit how much you shoot, presuming the backpack has like 500, 750, or 1000 rounds in it, is a heat meter like laser weapons. Fulfills my weapon fantasy for an actual functional machine gun, and would be similar to the autocannon

  • @evildude951
    @evildude951 Před měsícem +11

    Community managers probably were given a 'line to take' by Sony and then couldn't adapt to the changing situation

    • @BackwardsPancake
      @BackwardsPancake Před měsícem +1

      Yeah. It's sort of annoying that a lot of people overfixate on them. The entire purpose of CMs is to be a buffer/hate sink - The actual decisions are made way above their heads.

    • @fuchsmichael93
      @fuchsmichael93 Před měsícem

      Honestly, Credit to Spitz, If He meant it or not, He threw enough Oil in the Fire that even Sony felt the Heat

  • @thelegendaryklobb2879
    @thelegendaryklobb2879 Před měsícem +14

    Not a victory until the yellow box in the Steam store page with the "PSN account required" goes away and the game is made available in all countries again. There should also be some kind of official policy update to never try a similar move in the future for Steam. Only then my review will change back to positive, of course adding a big caveat about all this situation.
    I think it's high time for Valve to talk to us about their stance about this thing too.

    • @XM8A1
      @XM8A1 Před měsícem

      Does nobody understand timezones? Goddamn, be patient

  • @rocklee5x
    @rocklee5x Před měsícem +56

    Ppl are cracking way too many jokes, this aint over by a loooooong shot

  • @TheMongral
    @TheMongral Před měsícem +5

    You know what would be the perfect "reward" for doing the account link voluntarily after this? A cape titled "United We Stand", sporting a mix of the various playstation colors, and the flavor text "We Dive as One, or Not At All. All in the name of Freedom, Liberty, and Managed Democracy for Everyone".
    A subtle nod that, when the community really comes together, ain't nothing gonna stand in our way, not even the big corporations. (Or heck, just make it a freebie, like the Malevelon creek cape.)

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem +5

      Fuck that. I literally dont want sony having access to my information. Its worth more than a goofy skin in a game. Stop encouraging the linking in any capacity. Nobody wants it. Nobody likes it. Its generally annoying to all players across all platforms. Whats so difficult to understand about that?

    • @TheMongral
      @TheMongral Před měsícem +1

      @@chrisbruchak4519 That's kind of why I added that little caveat at the end of "or just make it a freebie like the malevelon creek cape". I want to make it clear that I don't want it to be necessary to link for any reason. I'm just throwing crap out there, it'd be up to the devs to determine that kind of stuff anyways, not me.

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem +4

      @@TheMongral idk if you noticed. But peoples words matter. Youre not the only person echoing that goofy sentiment and it collectively needs to stop. Sony sees that and that crap is what gives them the idea that this kind of thing is even acceptable to begin with.

    • @kokorochacarero8003
      @kokorochacarero8003 Před měsícem

      Reminds me of a Simpsons episode
      DENTAL PLAN! 🍻
      Lisa needs braces...
      DENTAL PLAN! 🍻
      Lisa needs braces...
      You people are truly that cheap, huh?

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat Před měsícem +14

    Steam still had the requirement.
    SOnY is old enough to be patient. The patch note warning is still there.
    The devs seemingly agreed to having PSN active in the game during development.

    • @roboten98
      @roboten98 Před měsícem +6

      From what I understand the CEO of AH said it was something Sony enforced on them the last few months of the 8 years of development and that Arrowhead expressed to Sony that they felt it would end up poorly for both Sony and AH if they force the linking, Sony went ahead with it anyway

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@roboten98it was joels decision to postpone it 3 months and basically swept it under the rug because the game was heavily succeeding. Ive seen enough to know he at bare minimum was perfectly ok with screwing the people who bought his game in regions where psn isnt available, knowing they would have access barred from them. The tweet that did it was when he tried to say he had no idea as hes never even tried to make a sony account. He just works on games. Thats just wildly dismissive of your reckless actions. Thats like saying you dont have blood on your hands when you sell someone heroine and they overdose. Yes, you didnt cause the overdose, but you facilitated it. Gonna need to see some serious back pedaling aside from sony simply saying they wont do it.

    • @DekArosaro
      @DekArosaro Před měsícem

      @@chrisbruchak4519 He is a developer, not the puplisher. Sony controlls what information is on the steam store page. Sony should have to made sure that it would not be available to non psn countrys to begin with, if they cared.

    • @invaderIRK1
      @invaderIRK1 Před měsícem +2

      ​​​@@roboten98Na it wasn't forced upon them, it was agreed upon during development and finalised several Months before launch.
      Sony was under the impression that the game will launch with these requirements but it was the CEO of AH who turned it off in an attempt to stabilise the game's buggy and difficult launch.
      What he should have done was shut servers down completely to allow his team to properly fix the servers and the game and restart them once completed.
      But instead he insisted on keeping the game live, work on fixing the problem then reestablishing the login requirements after the fact. He probably did so without realising what that would mean for players who live in areas that don't support psn.

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem +5

      ​​@@invaderIRK1which is all I need to know. At some point the litigation department at arrowhead (if one exists) failed to properly inform themselves. To not understand that launching a game on a pc gaming platform that would ultimately require an account from a publisher thats banned in 170+ platforms would cause MAJOR issues for your playerbase and your game itself is beyond excuse. Things like this are literally why companies have lawyers. So you can have these conversations ahead of time about what signing with a particular publisher entails and what they require/expect of you/the game. Not just sign first ask questions later.

  • @Wahwawah
    @Wahwawah Před měsícem +13

    Yippe~

  • @blazeproxima5558
    @blazeproxima5558 Před měsícem +14

    Finally gamers get a victory

  • @callsign_Wolverine
    @callsign_Wolverine Před měsícem +2

    Never mess with a community that killed 2 billion bugs in half a day

  • @Hastur_TKY
    @Hastur_TKY Před měsícem +2

    Totally agree with them needing to balance more with the solo perspective in mind, if the devs would have done that from the beginning they would have known that it takes 20+ charges to kill a BT with a railgun and who knows how many shots with the arc thrower, and then it would have raised a red flag that something is broken with squad play and potentially that bug would have been fixed sooner , and those terrible nerfs could have been avoided.

  • @oldreaddy3341
    @oldreaddy3341 Před měsícem +18

    There are soo many Helldivers that are never coming back now the trust is broken, everyone knows that Sony and by extension AH can just drop this type of shit on us at any moment.
    We have to be vigilant for this type of shit in future.

  • @manum8170
    @manum8170 Před měsícem +23

    Don't drop your guard just yet, it's Sony we are talking about. This whole maneuver showed us true colours of devs, which we saw was not as innocent as they portrayed themselves. There's a lot of work to be done, but I remain hopeful.....

  • @usonumabeach300
    @usonumabeach300 Před měsícem +1

    Helldivers stared into the Abyss, and the Abyss blinked first

  • @Xodok.
    @Xodok. Před měsícem +36

    We won.
    Change reviews
    Wear "Tyrant Hunter" cape from Steeled Veterans warbond as winning move
    We made an amazing precedent which will inspire players to fight back

    • @kegcodex
      @kegcodex Před měsícem +10

      We won a battle, not the war. There's still 177 countries that have had the game de-listed from Steam. We need to hold the line it's not over yet

    • @kesamek8537
      @kesamek8537 Před měsícem

      Do not change reviews until the win is complete and permanent.
      You surrender too soon. Very weak.

    • @segcosare4749
      @segcosare4749 Před měsícem

      Not yet. Hold the line brothers and sisters, until those who were forced back to super earth civilian life be able to fight once more!

  • @fausx9674
    @fausx9674 Před měsícem +10

    FOR SUPER EARTHHHHH RAHHHHH

  • @ottovonhabsburg1768
    @ottovonhabsburg1768 Před měsícem +3

    Imo they should have just made it so that if you sign into PSN you get a unique cosmetic and 1k super credits, lots of people out there would have the incentive to do so (new warbond is around the corner) and those who really wouldnt want to do it could just skip out on it, that way everyone would be satisfied.

    • @Babylauncher3000
      @Babylauncher3000 Před měsícem

      I do agree highly incentivizing something by giving players cool unique shit for accepting is way better than requiring under threat of losing access.

  • @markd9318
    @markd9318 Před měsícem +2

    The fact that PC players dont have to pay for PSN to play is actually what irks Sony the most.

  • @meodrac
    @meodrac Před měsícem +2

    Liberty has seen you through. Today you've carved another foothold in the long climb to Liberty. Victory was never in doubt.

  • @cowboychamploo5021
    @cowboychamploo5021 Před měsícem +5

    Their greed dictated this decision, they saw that bag slippin' away. Stay vigilant soldiers. Change reviews back, for now..

  • @Leelareso
    @Leelareso Před měsícem +11

    arrowhead knew that playstation was going to make such a move as early as 6 months before release and didn't say a fucking thing about it. They will not regain my trust

    • @Nirual86
      @Nirual86 Před měsícem +2

      they definitely aren't entirely blameless, but from the looks of it they weren't aware that the requirement was going to exclude a lot of countries. Or maybe assumed that a solution would be put in place for these.

    • @SupremeDouchebaggery
      @SupremeDouchebaggery Před měsícem +1

      They were aware that psn linking was required, but the availability of psn is on Sony's dime, not arrowheads. They're not responsible for that.

  • @Legendary_Honey
    @Legendary_Honey Před měsícem

    So happy to hear this. I was gonna keep playing regardless, but it was sad to see. Hope they don't try to pull any other shenanigans.

  • @lethalkrab
    @lethalkrab Před měsícem +3

    WE HAVE DEFENDED OUR WAY OF LIFE!

  • @emilgirginov9848
    @emilgirginov9848 Před měsícem +9

    I'm so proud of this community. Now if we can use similar methods to voice our conserns and show Arrowhead we're (largely) displeased with how they balance the game it'll be great.

    • @cell9899
      @cell9899 Před měsícem +3

      Balancing has been fine

    • @emilgirginov9848
      @emilgirginov9848 Před měsícem

      @@cell9899 Nope. More and more weapons/strategems feel worse and worse to use with every patch

  • @randomxgen6167
    @randomxgen6167 Před měsícem +4

    Here's hoping Sony doesn't do anything to ruin it.

  • @kaio0777
    @kaio0777 Před měsícem +2

    I love this community there nothing we can’t do
    Major order complete

  • @TheNuttyStrongman
    @TheNuttyStrongman Před měsícem +2

    We've earned temporary respite. They will come again.

  • @DLAJC
    @DLAJC Před měsícem +4

    Although the toasters and fridges had called their corporate overlords, they are still no match for the mighty force of Super Earth and DEMOCRACY!

  • @Klimawandel20
    @Klimawandel20 Před měsícem +3

    GUYS! sony retreated! the mandatory psn account doesnt come! please dont forget to change your review back to positive! :) thank you

    • @UmbraWeiss
      @UmbraWeiss Před měsícem

      Oh, some will, and most won't, I for one had a negative review way before this garbage and I won't change it,for that they need to fix the actual game and so far the patch at ah is all about changing the weapons and enemy behavior all over the place while important things are being ignored.

  • @davidweaver4436
    @davidweaver4436 Před měsícem +1

    Let's not relax until 1. The requirement is officially removed from the store page and, more importantly, 2. The delisted countries are restored.

  • @AizeNFoN
    @AizeNFoN Před měsícem +1

    never see a huge gamer unite in my entire life like this.

    • @earthtaurus5515
      @earthtaurus5515 Před měsícem

      That's down to the inadvertent magical lightning arrowhead managed to capture in a bottle with a game. As after all, which live service community single objective driven game have you seen bind a community together cohesively regardless of gender, faith, political views etc? I can't think of any personally. Sony almost ruined it, however as long the 177 countries remain delisted the community won't be whole. So, it's not over yet.

  • @Procrastinater
    @Procrastinater Před měsícem +15

    "don't nerf only buff" will only lead to the enemies being buffed instead.

    • @questionman6524
      @questionman6524 Před měsícem +4

      This.
      A lot of communities get far too upset over legitimate balance changes, not realizing that power creep leads to two FAR worse outcomes: either utter boredom because the game is too easy, or a much more challenging game that becomes less accessible to the average player.

    • @JD-kl9xw
      @JD-kl9xw Před měsícem +4

      They already were last patch regardless

    • @andrewdesalvatore7262
      @andrewdesalvatore7262 Před měsícem

      yea, ppl will always whine about NERFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... without noticing the Buffs.
      It's called Balancing. When ppl ignore 90% of the guns because there's a few guns that are just soooo ahead of everything else... using a gun that's notMeta but feels good to you = grieving.

    • @CyberChud2077
      @CyberChud2077 Před měsícem +4

      …Yes. That’s implied.
      People hate nerfs, people like buffs. Even if they ultimately wind up at “the same” place. Do not do what your customers hate. Do what your customers like. What’s so hard to understand about this?

    • @Procrastinater
      @Procrastinater Před měsícem

      @@CyberChud2077 Well, if you bothered to give this even an iota of thought beyond "hah! this position of mine is unassailable" you would realize that what people hate more than their weapons being nerfed is enemies being buffed to the point where their favorite weapons don't work as they want to anymore.
      Think the midwits pissing and shitting themselves over their railgun requiring to be charged to be used was bad? Imagine if they instead made the charger legs taks 3 or 4 hits to break by buffing its leg health. Only buffing just causes the game's difficulty to suffer, which makes people get bored unless you buff the enemies, but that will end up feeling "artificial" and the whinefest continues.
      Not to mention, it is waaaay harder to balance by changing every single mob in respect to the weapon selection than it is to tune overperforming weapons.
      Currently, overperforming weapons get nerfed, underperforming/utilized weapons get buffs, how is this a worse system than buffing everything, gradually ramping untill solo helldive can be done casually? In the end, it wraps around to "don't balance your game in a way I do not approve of or I will shit and piss my pants untill my favorite youtuber tells me the new meta weapons to use"
      It's just whining and noise.

  • @norrismilstead7209
    @norrismilstead7209 Před měsícem +12

    Don't change your review till baskinator an purple sqiudgon are fired from the arrowhead CM's list

    • @OhDough
      @OhDough  Před měsícem +24

      I'm changing it once the 177 regions are relisted on steam.

    • @christopherrabadi9942
      @christopherrabadi9942 Před měsícem +5

      that’s insane, he just had a bozo moment, shouldn’t lose his job if he admired faulr

    • @guardiantko3220
      @guardiantko3220 Před měsícem +2

      ​@OhDough that's when I will too, but I will keep the message in the review as a negative against the majority of CM's, for their behavior and stirring the pot of hate for their own humor, not doing any research, or bothering to understand players concerns. I will recommend the game, but these are problems still

    • @pensive8552
      @pensive8552 Před měsícem

      @@christopherrabadi9942 several moments you mean ('I thought you refunded and left') by several CM's. Power hungry asshats, should be fired, or put on final warning.

    • @mysterious___1
      @mysterious___1 Před měsícem

      @@christopherrabadi9942a moment. He’s done it more than once.

  • @korak2183
    @korak2183 Před měsícem +2

    Do you know anything about how the situation in the other countries? Do they get the option again to purchase helldivers 2 or are they out for good now on this option?

    • @Nirual86
      @Nirual86 Před měsícem

      that'll depend on Steam reversing the change. Might take another day or two like before, unless Valve wants to see more proof Sony won't just flip the switch again later.

  • @daethbane
    @daethbane Před měsícem

    Great points, I think you have a solid view on what needs doing here. With the recent changes you can feel what's "good enough" even in difficulty 5 and up. You fight non-stop and if your guns can't keep up with that you have to run something like the Incendiary Breaker.

  • @Dubst3pFriki17
    @Dubst3pFriki17 Před měsícem +3

    ------------- ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ --------------
    GLORIOUS VICTORY

  • @Garrador876
    @Garrador876 Před měsícem +3

    They need to reinstate availability to all countries. I'll be changing my review, but I'm still going to leave my opinion on their balancing/patching. I'll probably mention something about their Community Managers and Discord mods as well.
    This was a really crappy situation that could have been avoided in so many ways, but I'm impressed with the community's response and the effect it had.

    • @zenthedying91
      @zenthedying91 Před měsícem

      give it 2-3 days for the other regions get reinstated to get the lost helldivers back to friendly territory again. *However,* we need to wait and see if that happens before we relax a tad bit and keep a *VERY* close eye on Sony actions for the next 3-6 months in case they try to do anything stupid again.

  • @Horotoma
    @Horotoma Před měsícem +2

    Sony really think they can mess with a community that murdered 2 billion bugs, in under 13 hours.

  • @MattLetsPlays
    @MattLetsPlays Před měsícem +2

    lets hope this inspires other player bases to also stand up against greedy corporates. We deserve better!

  • @philippstarkel5523
    @philippstarkel5523 Před měsícem +3

    First of Congrats on the whole Community. We won this fight.
    Secondly: OhDough, I disagree on your take on balancing and really like the approach of only sitegrades in Helldivers. It makes more primarys viable and and varies the gameplay.
    The Dominator, Sickle, Erruptor, Plas Punisher ( not for me but some people do crazy tglhings with it), Scorcher, Incendiary Breaker and Defender all effective and have their roles. Now, that the stronger weapons were brought to one level, they can in steps bring all primary weapons to that strength.
    And it's a coop shooter. Weapons should be balanced in a way to compliment each other.

    • @xotnyttmarezzz6993
      @xotnyttmarezzz6993 Před měsícem +3

      People just want a power fantasy and always buffing and never nerfing just leads to power creep. AH doesn't get it perfect every time but I think they've done more good than bad with the weapon balance

  • @1gn30us
    @1gn30us Před měsícem +3

    “Two Billion and One” lets get this out. Sony needs to know how useless they are, how simply inconsequential they are.

  • @Lilyth_Helyste
    @Lilyth_Helyste Před měsícem

    They have stealth buffed enemys more than once. When the added the headshot damage res to armors over 100 AV, the also buffed headshot damage a bit.

  • @CallOfGamer2012
    @CallOfGamer2012 Před měsícem

    I feel immensely proud to be part of this community.

  • @Jackal19x
    @Jackal19x Před měsícem +3

    I've been saying this for awhile about Co-op games; it's NOT competitive- so stop nerfing the fun stuff, buff the un-fun stuff so EVERYTHING is fun to play with eventually. Just let players choose how to play together.

    • @LordZedz
      @LordZedz Před měsícem +3

      There are going to be nerfs. Every game has nerfs co-op or PvP. They've been buffing tons of weapons. You'll live.

    • @hawk9mm
      @hawk9mm Před měsícem

      @@LordZedz "Buffing tons of weapons" you mean.. like the Liberator Pen? Full auto sure fixed that POS right? Giving 5 "extra" damage to the base Liberator that still can't penetrate light armor? Fixed that for sure right? I could continue but you get my point, these "buffs" that you tout are jokes, they do nothing other than allowing you AH bots to sing AH's praises.

    • @GBR9794
      @GBR9794 Před měsícem

      (meanwhile, warframe do exactly that, forced to introduce more "FUN" and ruined the game

    • @LordZedz
      @LordZedz Před měsícem +2

      @@hawk9mm Weapons that have been buffed significantly since launch: Recoilless, EAT, Laser Cannon, Jar-5, Senator, Flamethrower, Spray & Pray, Breaker Incendiary, Punisher just off the top of my head. That's not even including weapons like the Slugger which have been both buffed and then nerfed.

    • @ShermanistDruid
      @ShermanistDruid Před měsícem +2

      The only thing worse than nerfs are power creep, so while it sucks it's a necessary evil.

  • @nonyabusiness890
    @nonyabusiness890 Před měsícem +3

    Remember Sony is rife we DEI and they do want to control your speech and even thought on their platforms. You can say what you want as long as it is approved speech. Just look at OW2 as an example. When I stopped playing literally no one was talking in chat because bans were out of control and the forums are full of woke topics but if you dare disagree you are labeled toxic and worse. This of course is made possible by the DEI loving community managers and higher ups that have bought into this agenda. While I was angry about the folks that would lose their accounts because they could not make a PSN account and I had uninstalled and issued a refund it was also for the fact that Sony wanted my data so they could control me and ban me more easily which Misty and Baskinator (both HD CM's) said is what the PSN linking is all about. Love your channel keep up the good work!

    • @an0bserver2000
      @an0bserver2000 Před měsícem +1

      i wonder if DEI will stick around as a conservative buzzword any longer than CRT did.

    • @nonyabusiness890
      @nonyabusiness890 Před měsícem

      @@an0bserver2000 Buzzword? You can do better then that, I know its hard to think but just give it a try.

    • @nonyabusiness890
      @nonyabusiness890 Před měsícem

      @@an0bserver2000 Buzzword? You can do better then that. Seriously try thinking a little bit, I know it will be hard but I believe in you, you can do it!

    • @nonyabusiness890
      @nonyabusiness890 Před měsícem +2

      Buzzword? That is a pretty low effort reply. You can do better, I believe in you!

    • @an0bserver2000
      @an0bserver2000 Před měsícem

      @@nonyabusiness890 I mean, you people use it as a buzzword. any time you people think something is "woke" you call it DEI. it has an identical use case to CRT back when that was the popular buzzword.

  • @help_im_in_pain8556
    @help_im_in_pain8556 Před měsícem +2

    "Another victory for the right side of history"

  • @Logajam.
    @Logajam. Před měsícem +1

    I still suspect there will be another round of magazine count reductions. I suspect they're trying to add the feel of never quite having enough ammo to the game. Which will make finding ammo caches more rewarding.

  • @krykas1821
    @krykas1821 Před měsícem +3

    ALL HELLDIVERS FIX YOUR REVIEWS!!!
    WE GOT WHAT WE WANTED AND WHAT WE NEEDED!
    NOW THAT WE'VE SHOWN THEM OUR DISAPPROVAL SHOW THEM OUR SUPPORT FOR REVERTING THE UPDATE!
    DON'T LEAVE YOUR NEGATIVE REVIEWS, SHOW THEM SUPPORT FOR LISTENING
    DO YOUR PART!

    • @IRMentat
      @IRMentat Před měsícem +1

      We haven’t got jack yet. Only a message on Twitter.
      Hold the line until SOnY have DONE something.

  • @lmAIone
    @lmAIone Před měsícem +1

    This should be used as an example in the future towards other companies! Godbless you all 👍🏼

  • @jauken83
    @jauken83 Před měsícem

    "Another small step, in the long climb to liberty....."

  • @VictorWeismann
    @VictorWeismann Před měsícem +1

    OhDough is right. You guys really don't understand how insane this is, making a Mega Corpo take a step back is insane. These Mega Corpo really don't care about us, but still need us to maintain their power. BTW, I do my part, I change my review, how about you guys?

  • @theboomshroom1865
    @theboomshroom1865 Před měsícem

    thanks for the news, just came back from work. put a smile on my face. you are right that the direction of the patches still needs to change, but lets hope the best for the future! for today, we have won.

  • @mrcrowe1848
    @mrcrowe1848 Před měsícem +1

    the totally in-universe propaganda part of this is funny because we as players didn't actually do anything, it was Steam stepping up and offering unconditional refunds that pressured Sony into backing down lol

  • @ananab6818
    @ananab6818 Před měsícem

    "I want positive change"
    True, true

  • @AyushMajumder-qx7qh
    @AyushMajumder-qx7qh Před měsícem +1

    What game are you playing on the background looks cool

  • @oliviertang9368
    @oliviertang9368 Před měsícem +2

    It is only delay, not cancel.

  • @khorne133
    @khorne133 Před měsícem

    Idn. The 5 extra damage to the Liberator was something that I would have not noticed how much better it performs until I took it in and used it for a bit. That small buff made the weapon far more consistent in its killing potential. 5 more rounds in the mad would be great, but imho, even a small change can have a big difference.

  • @TopassBakery
    @TopassBakery Před měsícem +1

    I agree, we survived the 500kg from sony, but now its up to the devs to keep the game alive

  • @Andrew_Li_O
    @Andrew_Li_O Před měsícem

    I don't even play this game but that's what gamer's solidarity looks like and it's amazing

  • @MrBlbll
    @MrBlbll Před měsícem

    I understand the point of diving solo being a controlled environment, but I think the game has enough gameplay variety to encourage group play. For example, two people fighting loud and pulling bug breaches, two specialists taking niche roles (infiltrating bases, bringing weapons better against only 1 enemy type, only doing sides&poi, etc). Duos become fun with tight-knit teamwork, like autocannon-guy dropping his backpack for the partner to allow him to go full auto, or the cqc with blitzer and flamethrower keeping the tides away from someone with better group clear and range.

  • @DarkFoxes
    @DarkFoxes Před měsícem

    Super happy for this cuz my friend yesterday literally got the game outright removed from his steam library, tho I genuinely don't fully get the "to ban" people because we all have unique steam ids, which they all receive whne we log in, pay for the game, pay for super credits, yes it has to go through steam but we all have our own unique steam Id.

  • @JKM2468
    @JKM2468 Před měsícem

    4:53 how do you make samples so visible? I don’t see the icons until I have them basically at an arm’s length

  • @comradeoctober2836
    @comradeoctober2836 Před měsícem +1

    Don't forget the game is still not available for purchase in those other countries

    • @chrisbruchak4519
      @chrisbruchak4519 Před měsícem +2

      Or that arrowhead knew before even partnering with sony that this would be required per arrowhead themselves. You had two options at that point, be forthcoming and bite the bullet and get people to do it, OR refuse to partner with sony because you want to retain autonomy over how the game you spent "8 years of blood sweat and tears on" is published and distributed. But they didnt. They understood that no one had heard of or cared about helldivers at that point in time and that sony had the man power to push the game. They sold their soul and when the devil came to collect his dues, they werent ready to pay up. They gambled on the game being so successful that they would be able to retroactively circumvent what they agreed to from the start. While their gambit was ultimately successful, it literally almost cost them their game. It also doesnt change the fact that they were either knowingly willing to put 160 countries out in a dirty way like that, or were negligent that what happened to those players in those countries was something that was even possible. Neither one is good and both look really bad on the company that legitimately had built up so much good will within their community.

  • @alkhemist95
    @alkhemist95 Před měsícem +1

    That was another successful Major Order. Congrats Helldivers!

  • @meodrac
    @meodrac Před měsícem

    A great idea for the next video/stream would be a "fantasy patch" on what needs to be fixed and/or buffed. Additionally, a list of new features that need to be added

  • @smishmaster
    @smishmaster Před měsícem +1

    This is officially the greatest game community of all time.

  • @Atlas-jf4zz
    @Atlas-jf4zz Před měsícem

    Have they changed back the optional theme instead of some games that may require a linked account?

  • @michaelmain1990
    @michaelmain1990 Před měsícem

    I agree a skin or even a small warbond that can either be purchased or gotten for free with linking a psn account

  • @Rockforce80
    @Rockforce80 Před měsícem +2

    I'm picking up what you're putting down Dough. Railgun damage doubled

  • @N57Icarus
    @N57Icarus Před měsícem +1

    That was definitely a general order, where are our 50 badges

  • @elfireii328
    @elfireii328 Před měsícem

    "22 buffs!" 3/4 of those buffs go to enemies lol

  • @richardjohnson8991
    @richardjohnson8991 Před měsícem

    Speaking on future positive momentum for the game and balancing around solo helldive is really critical going forward. Short term the game is going to be played in lobbies and groups of friends but over time players are going to fall off significantly and players need to be able to complete these missions, preferably with a variety of equally powerful and fun options.

  • @zeraith
    @zeraith Před měsícem +1

    I'd just like to thank all of the Helldivers who did their part in this Major Order. Let Super Earth prosper once more.

  • @vit4mint685
    @vit4mint685 Před měsícem

    That bit at about 6 mins in, where you shoot that bile titan 3 times in the face with the quasar and it is still going... that background footage really made me sad.

  • @vincea1830
    @vincea1830 Před měsícem

    Sony: "ouch, right in the profit margins"

  • @brycehoffman1521
    @brycehoffman1521 Před měsícem

    Curious to see if all the players they lost from this end up coming back

  • @MarcSy
    @MarcSy Před měsícem

    Agree 100%. I wonder what nerfs we get in the new warbond after a few weeks XD

  • @metallicarchaea1820
    @metallicarchaea1820 Před měsícem +1

    Democracy: Stolen🚫
    Democracy: Managed✅️

  • @erorpro
    @erorpro Před měsícem

    Ty guys for being here with us .