Kraven The Hunter - Sony Believes They Have A Legit Hit On Their Hands
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- The TJCS crew discuss Sony’s high hopes for the upcoming Kraven The Hunter movie starring Aaron Taylor-Johnson.
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It's gonna flop
Unless it hilariously makes more than Mufasa
It looks badass and actually good. So what we need to do is stop expecting a masterpiece and just enjoy the action and performances Here. If you walk away satisfied, support and promote it.
@@luecisturner4839Nah. I like good movies. Furiosa is a good action movie. I'm not paying $14 for crap films.
Exactly. DOA. ☹️
For them, the movie not being bad is already a huge success
Sony also thought madame web was a good idea. No thanks.
Oh they knew it was terrible but I guess they said it fuck it, I believe anyway when they could have just done a write off so maybe not.
Has a producer ever say there movie was no good
Good point
I will eat my mousepad if this movie is a banger. That’s how much faith I have in it flopping.
Dont eat if try to stick it
Wish we got the aunt May solo film. I just wanna see WTF that was.
So, and maybe it’s just me, am I the only one that views the animated Spiderverse stuff separate from the live action movies? Every time John references the animated stuff when he talks about how Sony hasn’t made all bad Spider-Man stuff recently, my mind always screams “that stuff doesn’t even belong in the same paragraph.”
100% agreed. It's so bafflingly absurd to me. I look at it as Sony Animation actually knowing what they're doing, versus Columbia Pictures flailing around helplessly and embarrassingly with their live-action projects. By lumping them together, it's like giving Columbia Pictures undeserved credit for someone else's work (since, regardless of the producers, Sony Animation's division clearly has better management), just because they all report to the same big boss.
@@lucariomew365 Same Columbia pictures that produced the first 3 live actions spider man movies ?
@@Thanosdidtherighthing
Same company, at different times, and, despite having _some_ of the same players, it was a different regime with a different mindset. So in a way, Yes Columbia Pictures, but no, not the same Columbia Pictures.
Venom is relevant in the comic/video game/pop culture space. Morbius and madame web are long forgotten characters and kraven was cool in the 80’s for 6 issues. Have we forgotten they attempted el muerto? Sonys clutching at straws
That film with Bad Bunny had me curious. Don’t think they would have sold it well enough for it to be a success.
I strongly believe it’s gonna be a stinker.
Kraven wasn't delayed to Christmas because "the studio has faith in it". We all know why it was delayed to Christmas and it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual film
Bond. Aaron Taylor Johnson Bond
Gonna flop to Sonic 3
@@makeroomfordoom @M3m3l0rd12 No. The film was delayed to December because Cobra Kai was announced to be spread over 3 parts going into 2025. As such, they pushed the Karate Kid reboot back to 2025 and wanting to keep the Christmas date they pushed Kraven to then.
@@makeroomfordoomlmfaoooooooo
@@maingamer6846 nobody giving a fug about karate kid man
This is gonna tank both comercially and crritically.
PUNISHER WARZONE MENTIONED I LOVE THAT MOVIE
I actually think Kraven looks decent from the trailers. Russell Crowe and Aaron Taylor Johnson look great as well
He literally gets powers from a tiger.....sounds like morbius and madame web 2.0 🤣
I remember how hyped I was for that first Venom. Even getting the vibe from the trailer, that it wasn’t going to be very good.
And man, I was so disappointed leaving that theater,
And it remains not only my least favorite Spider-Man related film,
But the worst of the Sony Spin-offs, including Morbius.
I grew up watching the 90s animated series and the Raimi films,
Being around my uncle who was even deeper a fan, having posters of Venom, Carnage, Morbius, Nightwatch, Deathlock, so on.
So I always get a little excited for the next movie Sony puts out, even knowing I’ll likely be disappointed.
I honestly didn’t hate Madame Web, finding it to be the most enjoyable of the Sony spin-offs,
Even if it isn’t very good.
Even though this movie has some red flags, and they likely have shown us the end of the movie in the trailer,
I once again am getting excited.
My hope, is with the more grounded nature of the story, the talent involved,
And the learning experiences they’ve had over the past 6 years,
That they’ve improved their efforts with this one.
Well whether it surprises or not (at least it doesn’t have the “creative minds” behind Morbius & Madame Web, sure), still gotta say… oh Sony
Sounds like BS. Summertime is a great time for a Summer Blockbuster. Next they will push it to Valentines saying it makes romantic sense somehow.
I was excited for Morbius and curious about Madam Web. After the let down for both I am neither excited nor curious for Kraven and have no intention of watching it in theaters.
Sony is delulu 🤣
I didn’t hate morbius. I hated madam Webb, but morbius I had fun
i'm not excited for Kraven but i will watch it anyway cause it's a super hero type of movie and it's a genre that i like. i liked to hear you guys thougthts during this video
Sony is underestimating the hype of Sonic 3 with Sonic and Shadow. Would end up like Morbius with how that came out a week before Sonic 2 and flopped, so same thing is happen again
Small voice. I think Aaron Taylor Johnson is very talented. The movie could be good.
Sony needs to stop!
Morbius, Madam Web, and Kraven. I need to send my resume to Sony because there's going to be an executive job open soon.
I don’t understand why Madame Web was made in the first place. I really wanted to see Silver and Black. To me Black Cat and Silver Sable are much more known and compelling characters
This has nothing to do with the quality of Kraven. Sony has lost a lot of money this year. Christmas box office is the best way to ensure Kraven gets more money than it deserves.
For me it's an "if I friend asks, I'll go see it", but...I'm easy, so I'll see almost anything under that condition. Otherwise I might just watch it at home later. It's not a "gotta see it in theater" for me. Not sure for whom it would be.
Sony has had recent great success with Spider-verse films
I would of love to see Ryan Couglar get his wish and used kraven in black panther but matinee vibes for this one🤷🏾♂️
weren't they pretty excited about Morbius too? still can't believe they rereleased that one. XD
Madame web rerelease when?
I’m totally excited for Kraven and looks really good!
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"How many times do we have to teach you old man"
sony live action movies produced by themselves with out marvel studios hell will always be crap
Sam Raimi has entered the chat……
😂 Sony said that😂
To me, it’ll be hard to top the depiction of Kraven in the Spiderman 2 game. They really set the bar high for what people can expect with this character. Even though it’s a different medium, I think it could still play a factor in perception
its kravin' time!
That sounds like a word that begins with "bull" and ends in "it."
All this movie needs so be successful is a solid story and good interesting action scenes
As long as it’s a fun time i think people will see it
It’s not like it has the biggest budget and needs to make a billion at the box office
Don't write this movie off. It was directed by the guy that directed margin call which I believe was nominated for an Oscar.
And written by the guy who wrote the equaliser movies
If it was gonna be a hit, it would not have to move dates a number of times. Plus can anyone tell me why Kraven is a stand-alone movie????
Yeah high hopes that's why it was delayed so many times because they believe it's going to be successful, not that originally it was terrible and through multiple rewrites and re-shoots the product that there left with to them is good enough to please the masses at least that's what they're hoping and believing, unfortunately even if it's decent what's next for the character 2 more movies with him as a anti hero again or they'll go down the Joker method with full villain storyline but with no Spider-Man it'll just be another Black Adam situation.
I give all the movies a chance but this is definitely not the comic DeMatteis Kraven who was defined by his hunt for Spider-Man and suicidal tendencies and inner turmoil. Death meant actual rest for him from his
inner turmoil and childhood wounds after he bested Spider-Man.
Still not watching it. I hated the venom movies and all spider-man side character movies from Sony suck.
It's a good move... it might be a big hit because it's rated R 💥
The dumb thing is they should have put Venom in it. If they did Last Hunt, substituting Spiderman with Venom that would have caused massive buzz. Heck you could even throw in Morbius in some form. But Sony doesn't seem to think when it comes to these projects.
They didn't even mention that sony is releasing Kraven movie in the same month for sonic 3. Also with other movies coming out in December it can hurt Kraven at the box office. That was a really poor decision for sony to do that and the Kraven movie is rated R. Plus thanks to Madame web and Morbius it seems sony made things worse for Kraven and maybe Venom 3 as well. Because of those movies people will hesitate to see those movies in theaters.
Sure, The Flash was also one of the best superhero movies ever made 🤷♂️
I hope this movie is great because I will both this and Sonic 3.
The trailer looks awesome
Hey It’s Spmuc! What A World! 😂
I couldn't care less
Even if it is a hit. It really has a low ceiling. Comic book films are really cold rn. And even Deadpool won’t flip that switch.
I think 🤔 Russell Crowe should come back as Zeus in The MCU and I think 💭 Aaron Taylor Johnson would be perfect 👍 as Quasar in the MCU!
lol how are Sony execs so stupid?
Mr. John your a beast
Kraven has a top tier writing team and director
HOW?!??
If it ain written by matt sazama & burk sharpless, i ain watching 🤧
Even if it turns out to be a good movie, I doubt it’s a box office success. I can’t see people rushing out to see this.
I’ll def be skipping this movie 🤦🏼♂️
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Sorry, but I just don't trust the producers and studio executives over when it comes to live action, because they thought Morbius and Madem Web were good ideas too, and outside of that, they thought the Tom Holland Uncharted movie was a good idea. At this point, it's clear that only Sony Animation or Playstation (specifically Insomniac) are the only ones who know how to handle the Spider-Man IP with respect.
I really have no interest in seeing the Kraven. I mean he's not a major villain or character in the Spidey Universe and no one...no one outside of comic fans has any idea who the Kraven character is so unless the marketing is brilliant I don't see this movie going anywhere.
I hope I like this movie .
i have faith simply because aaron taylor johnson is in it ive never seen a movie he was bad in
Yeah but Sony is making this. Don’t get ur hopes up
Not gonna see it
It's trash until I can confirm it's trash...
The Kraven trailer I saw months ago looked like a B movie to me.....
Kraven looks stupid. Getting his powers by being bitten by a lion? Really? We all know his arch enemy got his powers from being bitten by a Spider. The MCU should've adapted Kraven's Last Hunt. It would be better than Kraven vs Rhino, (who probably got his powers by being bitten by a Rhino.) Take the live action rights away from Sony please.
The Spider-Man 2 video game had a great story line. They should have saved Kraven for a Venom movie.
It’s a trap!
Who are we kidding? no one is expecting a great movie, and the general audience is just not gonna care.
If they think they have a hit with Kraven why did they keep delaying it? Hopefully kraven flops and Sony gives up on Spider-Man and sells the rights to marvel
They will NEVER sell the rights to Marvel(Disney) and why would you hope for a movie to flop?
@@Thanosdidtherighthing have you not seen any past Sony movies? Just look at morbius and madame web
Have sony delayed it because they need Aarons popularity to be up because hes the new bond ? To have it be released now and its seen the new bond is in a bombing franchise before they announce it would be damaging.
CAP! HIT. HA CAP!!
They think it’s going to be a hit cuz R and that ppl will love it cuz it’s gorey and violent but they forgot that didn’t work for the hellboy remake .
Eh, writers are a mixed bag you’ve got Richard Wenk who wrote the 3 Equalizer movies and the latest Magnificent 7, but you also have the duo who did Uncharted, MIB: International, and Transformers: The Last Knight. Along with a relatively green director, I’m expecting another Sony Marvel “masterpiece”.
It's Kravin' time! Lol 🤣
AJT Is awesome
I’m gonna give the movie a chance. I’ll admit when I hurd they were doing a kraven movie I was not excited at all I just rolled my eyes. Iv never liked kraven, not in the games or shows. And iv seen/ played every game and show he’s in. But when I saw the trailer I liked what I saw and I was interested, so I’m gonna go see it and give it a fair chance. (Also I’m just happy they didn’t give him that stupid annoying accent where he talks in the 3rd person)
I try to be positive?
The second Suicide Squad was a good movie but flopped because the consumers lost faith in DC. And every DC movie was better than Morbius and Madame Web. Even if Kraven is good it's going to flop.
It was a good movie??? 😂
Yea it really was and it's was waaaaay better the original movie (2016)@kagisox2592
I don't think IF the movie ends up being somehow good / gets good reviews ..will still flop. Word of mouth will travel / reviews will be seen or read so it may bring people to see it.
But it will definitely flop if the movie ain't good / gets bad reviews.
It released day and date on streaming
Just like they thought they had a hit with Morbius and Madame Webb
Honestly, Venom 2 felt warm for me, but Morbius and Madam Web 🕸 left a bad taste in people's mouth that I think will linger and carry over to Kraven. I think the aforementioned films already did damage to the Sony live action brand.
Venom 2 wasn’t good. A sign a movie isn’t that good. Is when the only thing people are talking about when they come out of your movie is, the after credits scene
after finally watching Madame Webb on Netflix, the other day, I realize that it has a worse version of the same exact plot from that newer Power Rangers movie. Evil Spider-Man equals Rita repulse. Madame Webb equals Zoran. The spider girls equal the Power Rangers. It’s just that this movie is even worse than that one.
I tried to watch Madame Web on Netflix and couldn’t make it through the first 5 minutes. As soon as the chic started to go into labor in the jungle with the god awful acting and writing. Felt like a 2 year old wrote the lines. I had to turn it off. It was so bad.
Sony is just making wrong decitions, Kraven will flop because nobody wanted it and will be killed by mufasa and sonic.
One thing about mufasa, sounds they changed his family origin, that’s the only issue I think.
Its gonna bomb so bad because its competing with Sonic 3
It’s also going to compete with Mufasa: The Lion King.
Yall people are letting your opinions of the shit they have launched so far, but the writers are new writers at least.
People need to literally just not see the movie so sony can understand that no one cares about these garbage movies. Y’all keep watching them so it just makes Sony creative more trash. You guys are the problem
We need more cameos
Is going to be hard to beat the greatest super hero movie ever, "the flash", or so was said before it came out.
Loookkkkkkkkk Madame Web and Morbius were absolute shit shows, but I do still believe at the end of the day, making a film is first of all dependent on the script then it is the director, SJ clarkson is a great showrunner and long form is her Forte, Jessica jones is prooof if it. Daniel Espinosa has had Duds only , but JC Chandor has never made a bad movie, give it a chance, then again if the script is anything like any of the Sony movies so far he could direct the absolute shit out of it but it’ll always be in the vein of Venom Movies at the best
They said the same thing about morbius!!!
A movie 🎦 no one wanted
I don't believe that's why they pushed it back. Unless they connect it to the MCU it's cooked!
Of course a movie producer it's gonna say it's a hit. They invested money in the production 😅
Sony never lacks in confidence when it comes to their marvel movies
Hopefully this movie would have some great cameos
I’m watching this while one the toilet. And the absolute toxic sludge coming out of me right now would be better enjoyed by the masses than another Sony spidermanless spider man movie.
Eyy venom 1 was campy fun 😂
@@nickh4676 more like crappy fun. I like the second one more. But I only went cuz I heard about the post credit scene haha
Ironically morbius made money 80 million dollar budget and it made 167 million ....weirdly the own financial bomb is Madame web.
Because of marketing expenses Morbius still fell about $40 million short of breaking even.
nobody think morbius made money LOL