okay but just cause you cut in boot in half doesn't mean your actually done any real research and since you never actually wore any of the boots or shoes to work, walk long distances or for a heavy workout that you cut in half you never really tested the boot or shoe out. Your trying to give advise to the boot community most whom use it to work but you actually never wore it to work. Rose anvil you have lots of fans are are trying to make yourself seem like a boot expert which you are not. Your just a lame guy cutting boots in half a reason most boot companies don't even really want to sponser you. Work boots like red wings are designed to be used in labor intensive work so by you cutting it in half and trying to make an assumption on whether they are comfortable or not based on the insole is inconclusive. have you even heard of work shoes. Your not a shoe expert. Just stick to your nikes and timberlands like the new jersey and new york clowns.
no amount of exercise can strengthen your feet enough to stand/run on pavement for 10 hrs a day 5 days a week and feel okay. very nice to see this vid, im a recent barefoot shoe cult abandonee
I’ll agree with this. I love barefoot and lightweight for casual use, but when it comes to “I need to be on my feet”, I want to have built in support and protection wherever possible
Barefooted balance for sure. Heavy, big, steel toe boots, leather, arch-supported boots for work. Sneakers for street jogging, barefoot everywhere else
I took part in many barefoot runs and hikes with people and I will say that strengthening your feet and legs that way is very tough but very satisfying. I recently bought some Danner logger boots to try high arch boots based on the videos you've made. They are very comfortable and very easy on your calves. They're a little weird on my knees though. Something I did notice based on these logger boots is that my lower back feels a lot better and I've noticed my posture has gotten better. There's benefits from both extremes of the spectrum of footwear and everyone's body is different. You don't know what will work until you try it.
This is how I feel when it comes to barefoot vs arch support. There's a time and place for everything. I think it's important to strengthen your feet. It can be done without the need for minimalist shoes, so it's not necessary to spend a lot or any money at all. And I think it's also important to have support when and where it is needed, varying by individual preferences. I love minimalist shoes for a few reasons and I've been minimalist for over 5 years, and until recently I decided to reintroduce supportive shoes. I wear both and I like both. I'll express that sentiment when conversation comes up in barefoot groups and often times I get ripped apart for it. My response: what works best for one may not work best for everyone. The barefoot community can be a weird place. There's almost an elitist mentality when it comes to their ideals. And that's just something I cannot get behind.
Thank you for your reply! It's so nice to see responses from folks who have tried one and then the other...and share their true experiences. I can't get behind the elitist mentality either. If something works for you - great! If it does, find something that does. There's no one best solution for everything.
I’ve been thinking about this exact thing. In my experience, it seems like both ends of the spectrum are both so far apart, that they are almost the same. I go barefoot most the time unless I am doing heavy work, then I’ll wear my boots. My boots, after being broken in, almost feel the same to me as being barefoot. If I wear tennis shoes for example, they feel foreign- like there’s a pressure point under my arch and another under my toes. My boots replicate that barefoot feeling with a shell around my foot, if that makes sense. Maybe that is just me- but it seems like the barefoot/arch support debate is more similar than it is different.
I have the 7" version of this boot and the arch was a killer to break in! However, once that's over ( and I'm certainly happy it is) they are some of the most comfortable boots I've ever had. Really helped with my lower back soreness as well.
I do the barefoot shoe thing for working out and casual around the town errands becauseit'sgreat for my knees and foot strength, but I work in the construction industry so high arch support boots are absolutely what I use out in the field for safety
Thank you so much for this video. I was instantly attracted by the looks of this boot. Absolutely gorgeous. And the craftsmanship and materials look very high quality… I don’t think I’ve ever been able to spend more than 150 on shoes being a musician, but you sold me on this pair, these will be for the rest of my life. Thanks again 🙏
Ordered a pair of these yesterday! I really think this will be the perfect boot for me. I'm on my feet all day on concrete. The arch support + the soft sole should be the perfect combo!
@@stauker.1960 try finn comfort insoles . they're like birkenstocks for every boot or shoe. been using them for 25 years ( no kidding ) and walking a lot through the day. i have a high arch and i swear these insoles have saved my feet over the long haul
Got fit at White's in Spokane yesterday. Tried on 9 different boots. Went in thinking I wanted MP Sherman Half Lug, left wearing C350-CS (Cruiser style, 55 last, wedge sole). The arch was the key. Thank, White's!
i would love to see someone’s perspective who uses both. like if you’re wearing barefoot when you’re not on your feet for heavy labor and then using a high arch for hard work and heavy lifting. the one part i would like to see fixed of the pnw boot is a better shaped toebox to get the advantages of a barefoot shoe when it comes to bunions
I love your videos, as a leatherworker I can totally nerd out with you on the leather and how everything is made. But, as a welder your information is only so useful as I have to wear steel toed boots. Have you thought about doing a series on steel/hard toed boots?
I love my Nicks BuilderPros w/ steel toe. Yeah they are kind of heavy coming in at 3.5 lbs each boot, but the steel toe insert does not hit my toes and don't give the boot a weird shape either. As for welding, I would recommend getting some welder's tongues from Wesco for your boots. You can use them in any boot
I'm so happy you cut this boot! I got a pair of these back in November in the red rough out because I wanted something that I could get my money's worth from. I had discovered your channel at the time and was doing my own research and found that I really liked these boots. Mine also are called "ramblers" they've since removed that name from the site. I naturally have a very high arch so this seemed perfect too... It definitely was a tough break-in but I think they are amazing now.... They also make me like 6'2. Definitely happy with the purchase and this video validates the feeling further!
Finding this series kind of interesting. I have flat feet and have always found built up arch support to be incredibly painful and never really gets any better, so these boots are kinda like staring at a UFO 😂
Same here - very flat feet - in fact every year at my physical my Doc is like "you've got very flat feet" and asks me if I'm having any pain from them wanting to send me to the orthopedist. Thankfully, I don't. the first time I put on a pair of high-arch boots I was in pain after a few hours, but over a day or two of wearing them, my pain is gone and they feel nice to me. I think my back hurts less with the high arch support as well maybe?
I had flat feet for 50 years and fixed them in a year wearing bearfoot type minimalist shoes. Now my feet have normal arches and i still wear mostly bearfoot shoes.
@@kd5byb That’s awesome to hear it helped you! I tried shoes with the high arches and even after breaking them in it felt like my feet were being bent in half. I like my Thursday Captains and Scouts a lot though, flat insoles but with the shank still giving good support. Someday though I’m going to have to try some logger’s, the boot bug has bitten too hard and they’re too neat! 😅
@@cfcasazza Fair enough! The shoe I’ve most worn over the years are good ol’ Converse Chuck Taylors, which are flat though not barefoot exactly. I see the arguments for the barefoot shoes but I do find putting on a solid pair of leather boots to feel pretty special. Honestly, no reason one has to cancel out the other.
Same thing here. I've always had an insane hatred any type of 'forced' arch support. Orthotics for years as a kid didn't help at all and just made me hurt. I was plenty active as a kid too, so it's not like I just didnt 'develop' an arched foot. I think some people are just born with naturally flat feet and most modern footwear doesn't really account for that. I'm a huge fan of barefoot shoes personally, though honestly I find the wider toebox/natural foot shape to be equally as important. Currently I'm breaking in a pair of redback boots, which have been the comfiest 'supportive' shoe I've ever had. They're not at all zero drop or minimal, but the arch in them is quite soft, and the toebox is super accomodating for a work boot. I also plenty of barefoot/minimalist footwear. The boots are super soft and comfortable for hard surface standing & manual labour type stuff, and my more barefoot footwear is great for walking and hiking for that ground feel and stability. I really enjoy having both options, and I don't think people need to be diehard in one camp. I still haven't been able to find a good wide toebox skate shoe however.
Great video, extremely helpful info. I have high arches, many injuries over the years. Plantar Fasciitis, bum knee and bad lower back. I got a pair two weeks ago, was afraid the high arch was going to be too much with my problems. Not so, I still have Fasciitis but I can walk without a limp after two weeks of wearing almost constantly. My posture has improved when wearing Whites. In other boots and shoes I locked my knees quite a bit when standing in place. (I know) Now that never happens, it took all of two days to adjust to the high arch. Now, the fasciitis is nearly gone, I'm no longer worried about how my feet will react when I start climbing ladders again (daily) and the clicking in my knee from a prior job injury is non existent and I'm finally getting back out and doing everything I loved doing before. These Whites are really something! Now if they'll just make my dog listen to me when I call him...
I love Nicks, Whites, and JK Boots. Your reviews are spot on, and this was a sleeper for me. I love wedge soles, and yet am frustrated by the lack of support. Going to break the bank and try these; thanks so much for the review.
7:54 This. This is why I was so excited for Barefoot February and Arch March. I keep hearing back and forth, the argument between barefoot shoes and boots. I'm so glad to finally hear the answer of which is "better." Neither is better, and it depends on your life style. It's good to hear which life style might need boots, and which might choose barefoot
One is the result of billions of years of evolution and the other is just marketing for lazy feet. One is definitely better than the other. Your arch doesn't need support. It's a muscle. It needs to be worked. Ofcourse If you've always "supported" and weakened it since childhood, your feet can't do their job and need strange footwear to help them.
@@CptAngelADVlogs He literally explains in the video why that's not always practical. Yes you can work out your arch, just like you work out any muscle. But if you don't have the time, there's a product that helps you, and even does the job better than if you were to work out. Just buy the product. But if you have the time, you have the means, and you want to not have to rely on arch support, you can do that. But not everyone has the time for it
no, there's clearly a better option (barefoot) excluding specific tasks that require arched footwear. Over use of footwear that supports you will lead to MANY health issues with age, the younger you start, the better it is in the long term. Ignoring the fact that barefoot work boots exist too. Those with decrepit foot health should start by walking on sand.
That was a fantastic breakdown. I too have been thinking about both sides of this for a while and in the working world I don't think barefoot footwear is the answer. But that's just my opinion
I have extremely flat wide feet and suffered for years in boots with heels and arch supports, some were better than others and I played around with all sorts of orthotic insoles from super feet to flat fix and everything, I mean everything in-between. It sucks because usually 4e barely fits and anything less squishes my feet and are painful. I get uniform reimbursement for boots so I have tried literally everything. For years the rocky duty wellington in XW with a flat leather insole was my best combination but the outsoles wear out fast for me. Most boots I had stability issues...prone to rolling ankles and just dumb foot and ankle injuries. On a whim I figured I would go for the exact opposite of everything and get Belleville mini mils because why not, it's free. I have to say after about a week to get used to them and break the normal aching feet, knees, and back are almost non-existent after years of daily pain and it seems impossible to roll my ankles even when I step in random drops and holes which is somewhat frequent working in rural area. It might not work for everyone but the minimal Bellevilles seem to have solved all my issues but obviously not for everyone.
Franks Boots is now making this same style boot on the 55 last. They call it the Rainier. You can also add the option to have the handsewn Norwegian welt as a custom option. After a chat with Franks, the construction is the same as the Rambler on this video.
Two Month Review… Loving these - Look forward to these each day. Expensive alternative but liking what I have and pleased with my choice - your video got me there THX. Retired “Urban” Firefighter that ended up in early 2000’s with Whites Smokejumpers in the 55 Last after wearing thru several pair of Chippewa (zipper lace) and Thorogood 10” lace up. For farm work around the house - last year returned to a Thorogood 10” but with a wedge sole cowboy boot - been good but wanted more arch support with lace up snugness for walking hiking and as an alternate boot to the slip on wedge. Finding the wedge sole great to scrape off mud compared to the waffle-stomper tread pattern where mud clumps are always tracked inside… Having a previous pair of worn-in Whites - adjusted my boot size down a 1/2 size to accommodate a thin sock where my smokejumpers are sized for a wicking sock plus a heavy wool sock. After two months - using the round laces - the boot has stretched out nicely where the laces have pulled together to now have good looking space between the lace eyes. Going to switch to the provided leather laces as an experiment.
This guy has been sitting on this boot for like a year. The good ol Rambler. Usually there is a small wedge of leather that acts as the arch support in White’s and maybe Nicks Boots. This pair does not have that extra wedge but has the same arch support as the other boots built on this last. I wonder if the 2021 sole is curved because the outer pics show a void under the sole and it just works. I think Nicks and Franks only allows a wedge sole with an HNW last which doesn’t have arch support. This is a truly genius design, this style will be very popular.
Thank you for bringing up the argument between barefoot and arched designed footwear. I find the stance that barefoot enthusiasts take is essentially body shaming to those who cannot find comfort in minimalist shoes. That’s why there are different shoe designs targeted to fit various feet.
Completely agreed about the need for arch support depending on application. I tried doing heavy work on hard surfaces with barefoot shoes-with foot strengthening exercises, toe spacers etc.. I ended up injuring my feet. My approach now is to choose shoes (with varying levels of support) based my immediate use case that day or in that situation. I continue to sometimes wear zero drop shoes SOMETIMES & do foot stretching and strengthening exercises within the limits of real life with a family and a full time job. It’s often argued that our ancestors didn’t have or need arch support, and this continues to be true for many people around the world. My context is not parallel. My feet don’t have their original splayed-toe shape. My feet have not been conditioned by years of no arch support. I don’t have time to make it a full time job of my feet. So, I land somewhere in the middle. I consistently go for wide-toe-box based on need, but I am not a shoe arch ideologue of any variety.
I got my first pair of whites this week. I'm a convert. They're very tight but EXTREMELY comfortable and stable. They are the exact same style as all my cheap boots but somehow look 1000× better too.
I have the ramblers in red dog rough out and LOVE THEM. I was really worried about the super high arch cause I have pretty flat feet. But they broke in after about a week thankfully and I’m a convert to whites. I want em all. Loving Arch March!
I'm flat footed as well. Do these high arch boots really provide enough support to the arch and ankle that helps people like us? I have bought so many boots that don't work out for me EVEN when I have my orthotics in them. Sometimes the last is too flat to make a difference. I'd love to not have to wear the orthotics and just rely on the support of the boot but have never found one to work yet. Then again, I have never actually spent the money on a high quality boot like Whites, Nicks, JKs, etc.
@@AirborneBuck Howdy! So my experience (purchased about a month ago and I’ve worn these roughly 4 days a week) has been fantastic on the 55 last. I was genuinely concerned that the arch support would be TOO much. I’m so used to flat bottomed sneakers/shoes/boots that I thought the last may just not work for me. On the contrary, it’s been fun trying these out and while I still have a bit more break in to do these have already started moulding to my foot wonderfully. Your mileage may vary here, but I’m going to get the kilties; one, to fill some volume since I have fairly skinny ankles and two, because I want to see what these look like with them. I would 110% try out a high last boot from one the PNW brands. Especially if you require insoles in other boots. To save a few doll hairs you could try out a pair of Whites stichdown C350 Cruisers/Cutters/Ramblers (vs their full hand sewn stichdown) FYI- I purchased my Ramblers via Nepenthes New York. They have a couple Rambler make ups that are ready to ship!
@@alexperez3651 thanks so much for the feedback! So, you feel like you're getting enough support in your feet, ankles, hips, and back? Another issue I've faced is pretty bad Achilles tendinitis. It's becoming a pretty bad issue for me. After doing some research and watching some videos I really think a high last boot could work for me. I am on my feet at least 8 hours a day on hard concrete in a construction setting. I'm way too young to feel the pain I do every single day. I'm ready for a change. Thanks again. I am highly considering in investing into a pair of high last PNWs!
@@AirborneBuck no worries at all, sorry to hear bout the issues you’re having. I’ve been fortunate enough not to have the pain you are (I’m in an office. A bit of workwear cosplay im afraid lol) and while I can’t guarantee that the boots will alleviate any of the issues I can say with confidence that it’s worth a try at the very least. Here’s hoping the boots help and/or you find another solution, cheers!
@@alexperez3651 thanks again for the info! I understand the experiences always vary! It's just good to hear experiences of people that may be in a similar circumstance as me. I hope you continue to love your boots and I very well may invest soon. I think you're right and it may very well be worth at least trying 😄
Also love this series. Been wearing tons of barefoot shoes mostly to strengthen my arch but wanted one decent boot like this for days when I have harder work and want to give my feet a rest
They are truly amazing boots, I really hope you will be able to get a pair! I got them as the ramblers with the hand-sewn stitchdown. Kind of want a pair of the 350-cs though aswell so I can rotate between them some days.
Great video! This is the old Rambler. I've worn a custom pair of these daily for work the past two years (shout out to Kyle at Baker's). I'm a chiropractor and a sports physician and I'll never wear another boot for my specific work related tasks. I am on my feet 10-12 hours a day treating patients. I treat patients on an adjusting table which has pedals that elevate sections of the table to allow for comfort and efficacy of the treatment. These boots allow me to press (step) on the pedals while the patient is laying on the table without discomfort and are the only boot I've been able to find that work this effectively. They are phenomenal, but make no mistake, this is a work boot, not for chilling at Starbucks or sitting in an office. They are substantial (heavy), the arch on this boot is legit and the Lineman's shank is incredible for protecting your arch and Plantar Fascia. Anyone involved in any type of work involving standing on firm surfaces, ladders, shovels, etc. should look no further than this boot. Great job, Weston!
@@sayeedsalim I went through Kyle Baker at Bakers. I am 14.5 on the Brannok and I ended up with a 13.5 in this boot, so a full size under my normal Brannok. They fit perfectly. YMMV.
I know you said these are for work only, but for being around and about, is the boot pretty good in helping out with plantar fasciitis and if I tend to have higher arches?
I think these used to be called Ramblers. I have a pair and really dont like the arch. I have multiple pairs of logger whites and that arch is comfortable. The arch on my ramblers is too high on the outer edge of my foot. It would be great if they flattened that part out a bit while keeping the high arch on the inside of your foot. Other than that I really like them. The 2021 wedge sole is super cushy and grips ice really well. Edit: I’ve been wearing them for about 9 months now as work boots and hoping the arch will eventually mold to the shape of my foot. They are better now but I still have to often change them out for a lower arch boot toward the end of my shift.
After dating a podiatrist for some time, I realized the importance of wearing shoes that are balanced. If a shoe or boot is not the same height at the ball and the heel, then there will be imbalance. I wore Danner Fort Lewis 10 in. back in the service in the 80’s and 90’s. They had a relatively low arch and I put a ripple sole on them. I have a feeling that these boots, although aesthetically, pleasing and nice to look at, would destroy my feet. It’s nice to put an old pair of Chucks ya’ know? Great video
@@mexdrago3009 I've wondered about them too. I put them in the weirdo category (like most of my shoes) - still hard to believe there's no zero drop offering from vibram, etc. for resoleable outsoles. Can I get a zero drop boot that approaches a normal boot in appearance? Doesn't look like an elf boot/food sack/space sneaker?
oh how my nearly flat feet would love these boots. maybe someday i can add a pair to my wardrobe, now that i see how awesome they are. thanks for the rundown, weston.
I have plantar fascitis, and I do take time to do the therapeutic exercises and stretches, but I need arch support rehardless ... and both my Nicks urban loggers and my White's service boots have enough arch support in them to get by - but I need moar arch support than that, truth be told - like Birkenstock levels of arch support. Oh, and a shank (no matter what its made of) IS NOT arch support. Shanks have a stiffening effect that relieves SOME strain on the arch, but they DO NOT support the arch. Reducing strain and supporting are 2 different things. I'll give these things a look. Thanks for pointing out the 55 last to me.
Since were in the same canoe, this is when you have both this boot and the custom orthotic. And since we are paying a ton for these. You custom design the boot around the orthotic and foot. I have no idea why this isnt being with with Foot Docs...
Hi @Rose Anvil, would you ever consider doing a resoleable hiking boot showdown? I want to get some resoleable leather hiking boots but don’t exactly know where to start. The ones that intrigue me the most are the Danner Explorer and Hoffman Hiker in all leather. 2 most important factors are longevity and comfort.
Kenetreks are one of the best. Danners just aren’t very durable. I got two seasons out of a pair of danners. My kenetreks have two seasons on em and they look brand new still.
the thing with barefoot shoes is that you don't need to train you feet since walking alone will train them, compared to the west in asia we wear very small heels and little to no arch support, but I still benefited from barefoot shoes cause of the Wideness my feet are 11.5cm wide 45eu length. I used to wear 47eu cause my feet are so wide I was always tripping on any thing cause of long shoe it would be like extra 2cm in the front, so most of my life I wore sandels, and shoe when I was running or playing sports.
Got a pair of these and ended up returning them to Baker's because I had the same thoughts as you. The shelf created by those extra layers of leather was just too much. I absolutely love the aesthetics of the Cutter, but I would need them to leave out at least the lineman shank before I could imagine trying to break them in. I guess high arch is just not for me. Fantastically built and beautiful boot though.
Arch support is objectively not for everyone, some people enjoy moderate to high arch support - it feels good for them, but going from regular shoes and stereotypical boots to a high arch support boot is a huge shock for everyone because for years and years and years you have never walked in something like that before.
@@mad0uche More or less the same as going with ultra flexible barefoot footwear after growing up wearing Nikes & Red Wings - you're in for a shock lol. In either direction, TAKE IT EASY if that hasn't been your norm!!!
@@RyTrapp0 That's the thing with some of these boots too, not the whites in particular, but most of these boots don't come with insoles and your foot has to break in an oak tanned piece of leather that molds to your foot. That alone is a culture shock to most people, walking on essentially a hard piece of leather, walking on something that isn't squishy.
Just bought a pair of these after trying the 350 with a logger heel/ outsole. They're a bit more practical for everyday use, better on flat, hard surfaces than the logger style. A great blend of heritage craft and modern looks.
Yepp. Definitely the boot I've been wanting for about the last 4 months. Ordered Nick's moc toe for starters. These are next. Then JK forefront. White said they'd make it as the rambler with handsewn stitch down as a custom order.
Thank you for this. I need a boot for medical reasons that has a high arch. Honestly being in tons of pain just need something to support me. Ill def be looking into this...
They have the Perry and Millwood on sale right now for $260 [still not in my size, of course], but then these jump up to $575 again but at least maybe in stock and not wait 2 or 3 months?
The Perry and Millwood are both on the 1972 last and very low/flat arch support. Call White’s and ask for Christy in sales…she will get you where you need to be.
Great review as always. Your passion for this makes the channel great! Can we get a traditional leather hiking boot series vs modern hiking boot series? (ie Velasca vs Lowa)
I just realized when he said he'd carry 100 lbs of gear that he's really strong. You can't tell from his baggy shirts, even though he's said many times before he was a firefighter
13:26 Whats crazy is if you multiply both measurements from the red wing (.86 & 1.3 multiplied by 1.5) you get almost exactly the dimensions of the Whites. .86 x 1.5 = 1.29 1.3 x 1.5 = 1.95
its worth noting than ankle support has a serious trade off, the less your ankle can do its job and flex with the terrain the more that force will be applied to the knees. obviously there's times when you need that extra ankle support but its worth considering.
ima carpenter working occasional 12hr days. i used to wear supportive work boots with custom orthotics, my feet, knees and back would hurt most days. i started getting into being barefoot on my off time, and finally made the decision to try some barefoot (no arch support, no heel, etc) shoes at work. it took some adjustment, but my foot, back and knee pain is 99% gone. your feet know how to walk, they do not need all this stuff to help them do what millions of years of evolution have designed them to do.
Arch support is important for me. So cool I need to find good “style/fashion” boots that can last and be polished. Thursday boots are nice. Can you recommend a nice black or chocolate leather boot. Comfort and style is key for me. I’d like to shine them well. I dnt really want a work boot but want style comfort and durability in a nice boot.
I think it’s more prominent in this pair because of the wedge sole, if that makes any sense. There’s uninterrupted contact from the whatever surface you’re standing on straight to the arch support.
I think that most people who make it an arch support vs. barefoot argument have for gotten that a person can wear more than one type of shoe. If I need a casual everyday shoe, I would go for a barefoot sneaker. If I am going on a long hike or to a work sight, I would wear boots. The appropriate shoes for the appropriate situation. We spend too much time arguing about false dichotomies.
You should do a review of McRaes jungle boots. I just bought some of the black all leather ones and I'm enjoying them a lot but I couldn't find a review anywhere on them. Only comments on reviews of Rothco boots.
I would think that if you're in your feet all day anyways, carrying so much, that with a gradual and mindful transition to minimalist shoes, you would automatically strengthen your feet along the way.
Nope. I’ve done that for 33 years now and my feet/arch pain gets worse and worse and worse. Carrying bags of cement or car parts/ walking on concrete all day you name it I do it everyday. I finally bought this pair in this video and a logger boot for outdoor work. So far it’s waaay better having arch support. I’m down with whatever works and I can honestly say with my experience the barefoot stuff is bull crap. Your gonna pay for it later in life imo
Definitely benefits to your health doing the barefoot thing but as someone who is a blue collar guy I’d destroy my feet if I didn’t wear something solid.
It’s about time you talk about one of the most important features of any shoe or boot, the arch support and how comfortable it is not just what’s it made out of and how its constructed
@@stauker.1960 I guess you can’t comprehend a simple comment. I said good for you that you’re talking about arch support whether it’s high or low, he’s talking about arch support
@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews it would take a lot to fuck up the shape of an arch, and EVEN THEN, some people have weird shaped arches/feet. COMFORT IS SUBJECTIVE
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okay but just cause you cut in boot in half doesn't mean your actually done any real research and since you never actually wore any of the boots or shoes to work, walk long distances or for a heavy workout that you cut in half you never really tested the boot or shoe out.
Your trying to give advise to the boot community most whom use it to work but you actually never wore it to work.
Rose anvil you have lots of fans are are trying to make yourself seem like a boot expert which you are not.
Your just a lame guy cutting boots in half a reason most boot companies don't even really want to sponser you. Work boots like red wings are designed to be used in labor intensive work so by you cutting it in half and trying to make an assumption on whether they are comfortable or not based on the insole is inconclusive.
have you even heard of work shoes. Your not a shoe expert. Just stick to your nikes and timberlands like the new jersey and new york clowns.
Kinda bummed you didn’t say anything about the leather thickness or quality
Is possible to tell me about the leather thickness and quality here in the comments???
no amount of exercise can strengthen your feet enough to stand/run on pavement for 10 hrs a day 5 days a week and feel okay. very nice to see this vid, im a recent barefoot shoe cult abandonee
I’ll agree with this. I love barefoot and lightweight for casual use, but when it comes to “I need to be on my feet”, I want to have built in support and protection wherever possible
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Barefooted balance for sure. Heavy, big, steel toe boots, leather, arch-supported boots for work. Sneakers for street jogging, barefoot everywhere else
I took part in many barefoot runs and hikes with people and I will say that strengthening your feet and legs that way is very tough but very satisfying.
I recently bought some Danner logger boots to try high arch boots based on the videos you've made. They are very comfortable and very easy on your calves. They're a little weird on my knees though. Something I did notice based on these logger boots is that my lower back feels a lot better and I've noticed my posture has gotten better.
There's benefits from both extremes of the spectrum of footwear and everyone's body is different. You don't know what will work until you try it.
This is how I feel when it comes to barefoot vs arch support. There's a time and place for everything. I think it's important to strengthen your feet. It can be done without the need for minimalist shoes, so it's not necessary to spend a lot or any money at all. And I think it's also important to have support when and where it is needed, varying by individual preferences. I love minimalist shoes for a few reasons and I've been minimalist for over 5 years, and until recently I decided to reintroduce supportive shoes. I wear both and I like both. I'll express that sentiment when conversation comes up in barefoot groups and often times I get ripped apart for it. My response: what works best for one may not work best for everyone. The barefoot community can be a weird place. There's almost an elitist mentality when it comes to their ideals. And that's just something I cannot get behind.
Thank you for your reply! It's so nice to see responses from folks who have tried one and then the other...and share their true experiences.
Thank you for your reply! It's so nice to see responses from folks who have tried one and then the other...and share their true experiences. I can't get behind the elitist mentality either. If something works for you - great! If it does, find something that does. There's no one best solution for everything.
I’ve been thinking about this exact thing. In my experience, it seems like both ends of the spectrum are both so far apart, that they are almost the same. I go barefoot most the time unless I am doing heavy work, then I’ll wear my boots. My boots, after being broken in, almost feel the same to me as being barefoot. If I wear tennis shoes for example, they feel foreign- like there’s a pressure point under my arch and another under my toes. My boots replicate that barefoot feeling with a shell around my foot, if that makes sense. Maybe that is just me- but it seems like the barefoot/arch support debate is more similar than it is different.
Your body benefits from changing environments. Too juch rest will ruin your body the same way too much work will. This is a refreshing comment to read
I have the 7" version of this boot and the arch was a killer to break in! However, once that's over ( and I'm certainly happy it is) they are some of the most comfortable boots I've ever had. Really helped with my lower back soreness as well.
I do the barefoot shoe thing for working out and casual around the town errands becauseit'sgreat for my knees and foot strength, but I work in the construction industry so high arch support boots are absolutely what I use out in the field for safety
Thank you so much for this video. I was instantly attracted by the looks of this boot. Absolutely gorgeous. And the craftsmanship and materials look very high quality… I don’t think I’ve ever been able to spend more than 150 on shoes being a musician, but you sold me on this pair, these will be for the rest of my life. Thanks again 🙏
Ordered a pair of these yesterday! I really think this will be the perfect boot for me. I'm on my feet all day on concrete. The arch support + the soft sole should be the perfect combo!
Concrete hurts after ten hours.
@@stauker.1960 try finn comfort insoles . they're like birkenstocks for every boot or shoe. been using them for 25 years ( no kidding ) and walking a lot through the day. i have a high arch and i swear these insoles have saved my feet over the long haul
Got fit at White's in Spokane yesterday. Tried on 9 different boots. Went in thinking I wanted MP Sherman Half Lug, left wearing C350-CS (Cruiser style, 55 last, wedge sole). The arch was the key. Thank, White's!
The C-MP would have been the best of both..
i would love to see someone’s perspective who uses both. like if you’re wearing barefoot when you’re not on your feet for heavy labor and then using a high arch for hard work and heavy lifting. the one part i would like to see fixed of the pnw boot is a better shaped toebox to get the advantages of a barefoot shoe when it comes to bunions
My exact thoughts
I love your videos, as a leatherworker I can totally nerd out with you on the leather and how everything is made. But, as a welder your information is only so useful as I have to wear steel toed boots. Have you thought about doing a series on steel/hard toed boots?
I've got a pair of red Wing Chelsea's that are good
I love my Nicks BuilderPros w/ steel toe. Yeah they are kind of heavy coming in at 3.5 lbs each boot, but the steel toe insert does not hit my toes and don't give the boot a weird shape either. As for welding, I would recommend getting some welder's tongues from Wesco for your boots. You can use them in any boot
I'm so happy you cut this boot! I got a pair of these back in November in the red rough out because I wanted something that I could get my money's worth from. I had discovered your channel at the time and was doing my own research and found that I really liked these boots. Mine also are called "ramblers" they've since removed that name from the site. I naturally have a very high arch so this seemed perfect too... It definitely was a tough break-in but I think they are amazing now.... They also make me like 6'2. Definitely happy with the purchase and this video validates the feeling further!
My story is very similar in picking up a pair of these! Cheers
Appreciate the support!
Finding this series kind of interesting. I have flat feet and have always found built up arch support to be incredibly painful and never really gets any better, so these boots are kinda like staring at a UFO 😂
Same here - very flat feet - in fact every year at my physical my Doc is like "you've got very flat feet" and asks me if I'm having any pain from them wanting to send me to the orthopedist. Thankfully, I don't. the first time I put on a pair of high-arch boots I was in pain after a few hours, but over a day or two of wearing them, my pain is gone and they feel nice to me. I think my back hurts less with the high arch support as well maybe?
I had flat feet for 50 years and fixed them in a year wearing bearfoot type minimalist shoes. Now my feet have normal arches and i still wear mostly bearfoot shoes.
@@kd5byb That’s awesome to hear it helped you! I tried shoes with the high arches and even after breaking them in it felt like my feet were being bent in half. I like my Thursday Captains and Scouts a lot though, flat insoles but with the shank still giving good support. Someday though I’m going to have to try some logger’s, the boot bug has bitten too hard and they’re too neat! 😅
@@cfcasazza Fair enough! The shoe I’ve most worn over the years are good ol’ Converse Chuck Taylors, which are flat though not barefoot exactly. I see the arguments for the barefoot shoes but I do find putting on a solid pair of leather boots to feel pretty special. Honestly, no reason one has to cancel out the other.
Same thing here. I've always had an insane hatred any type of 'forced' arch support. Orthotics for years as a kid didn't help at all and just made me hurt. I was plenty active as a kid too, so it's not like I just didnt 'develop' an arched foot. I think some people are just born with naturally flat feet and most modern footwear doesn't really account for that. I'm a huge fan of barefoot shoes personally, though honestly I find the wider toebox/natural foot shape to be equally as important.
Currently I'm breaking in a pair of redback boots, which have been the comfiest 'supportive' shoe I've ever had. They're not at all zero drop or minimal, but the arch in them is quite soft, and the toebox is super accomodating for a work boot. I also plenty of barefoot/minimalist footwear. The boots are super soft and comfortable for hard surface standing & manual labour type stuff, and my more barefoot footwear is great for walking and hiking for that ground feel and stability. I really enjoy having both options, and I don't think people need to be diehard in one camp. I still haven't been able to find a good wide toebox skate shoe however.
Great video, extremely helpful info. I have high arches, many injuries over the years. Plantar Fasciitis, bum knee and bad lower back. I got a pair two weeks ago, was afraid the high arch was going to be too much with my problems. Not so, I still have Fasciitis but I can walk without a limp after two weeks of wearing almost constantly. My posture has improved when wearing Whites. In other boots and shoes I locked my knees quite a bit when standing in place. (I know) Now that never happens, it took all of two days to adjust to the high arch. Now, the fasciitis is nearly gone, I'm no longer worried about how my feet will react when I start climbing ladders again (daily) and the clicking in my knee from a prior job injury is non existent and I'm finally getting back out and doing everything I loved doing before. These Whites are really something! Now if they'll just make my dog listen to me when I call him...
I love Nicks, Whites, and JK Boots. Your reviews are spot on, and this was a sleeper for me. I love wedge soles, and yet am frustrated by the lack of support. Going to break the bank and try these; thanks so much for the review.
7:54 This. This is why I was so excited for Barefoot February and Arch March. I keep hearing back and forth, the argument between barefoot shoes and boots. I'm so glad to finally hear the answer of which is "better." Neither is better, and it depends on your life style. It's good to hear which life style might need boots, and which might choose barefoot
One is the result of billions of years of evolution and the other is just marketing for lazy feet. One is definitely better than the other.
Your arch doesn't need support. It's a muscle. It needs to be worked.
Ofcourse If you've always "supported" and weakened it since childhood, your feet can't do their job and need strange footwear to help them.
@@CptAngelADVlogs Humans existed billions of years ago?
@@CptAngelADVlogs He literally explains in the video why that's not always practical. Yes you can work out your arch, just like you work out any muscle. But if you don't have the time, there's a product that helps you, and even does the job better than if you were to work out. Just buy the product. But if you have the time, you have the means, and you want to not have to rely on arch support, you can do that. But not everyone has the time for it
no, there's clearly a better option (barefoot) excluding specific tasks that require arched footwear. Over use of footwear that supports you will lead to MANY health issues with age, the younger you start, the better it is in the long term. Ignoring the fact that barefoot work boots exist too. Those with decrepit foot health should start by walking on sand.
That was a fantastic breakdown. I too have been thinking about both sides of this for a while and in the working world I don't think barefoot footwear is the answer. But that's just my opinion
Really nice analogy regarding the wall squat!
arch support is also great for flat feet. If not treated properly flat feet will affect your knees, hip and spine
Flat feet happens because of too much support... It is s weak feet...
@@zbigniew2628 sure thing barefoot zealot
@@zbigniew2628 I grew up barefoot, I still have flat feet and pain along my arch when standing still too long, the arch support fixes that.
I have extremely flat wide feet and suffered for years in boots with heels and arch supports, some were better than others and I played around with all sorts of orthotic insoles from super feet to flat fix and everything, I mean everything in-between. It sucks because usually 4e barely fits and anything less squishes my feet and are painful.
I get uniform reimbursement for boots so I have tried literally everything. For years the rocky duty wellington in XW with a flat leather insole was my best combination but the outsoles wear out fast for me. Most boots I had stability issues...prone to rolling ankles and just dumb foot and ankle injuries. On a whim I figured I would go for the exact opposite of everything and get Belleville mini mils because why not, it's free. I have to say after about a week to get used to them and break the normal aching feet, knees, and back are almost non-existent after years of daily pain and it seems impossible to roll my ankles even when I step in random drops and holes which is somewhat frequent working in rural area.
It might not work for everyone but the minimal Bellevilles seem to have solved all my issues but obviously not for everyone.
@@zbigniew2628no. Some people, like my dad, are born with flat feet. Whereas as others, like my mom and I, are born with naturally high arches
Franks Boots is now making this same style boot on the 55 last. They call it the Rainier. You can also add the option to have the handsewn Norwegian welt as a custom option. After a chat with Franks, the construction is the same as the Rambler on this video.
Good to hear, waiting for mine (Rainier).
You can callous and toughen your hands enough that you pick up a cast iron pan from the fire without a glove.. I'll choose the glove.
probably my favorite looking boot reviewed on this channel
Two Month Review… Loving these - Look forward to these each day.
Expensive alternative but liking what I have and pleased with my choice - your video got me there THX.
Retired “Urban” Firefighter that ended up in early 2000’s with Whites Smokejumpers in the 55 Last after wearing thru several pair of Chippewa (zipper lace) and Thorogood 10” lace up.
For farm work around the house - last year returned to a Thorogood 10” but with a wedge sole cowboy boot - been good but wanted more arch support with lace up snugness for walking hiking and as an alternate boot to the slip on wedge.
Finding the wedge sole great to scrape off mud compared to the waffle-stomper tread pattern where mud clumps are always tracked inside…
Having a previous pair of worn-in Whites - adjusted my boot size down a 1/2 size to accommodate a thin sock where my smokejumpers are sized for a wicking sock plus a heavy wool sock.
After two months - using the round laces - the boot has stretched out nicely where the laces have pulled together to now have good looking space between the lace eyes. Going to switch to the provided leather laces as an experiment.
This guy has been sitting on this boot for like a year. The good ol Rambler.
Usually there is a small wedge of leather that acts as the arch support in White’s and maybe Nicks Boots. This pair does not have that extra wedge but has the same arch support as the other boots built on this last. I wonder if the 2021 sole is curved because the outer pics show a void under the sole and it just works. I think Nicks and Franks only allows a wedge sole with an HNW last which doesn’t have arch support. This is a truly genius design, this style will be very popular.
Nice explanation of why this kind of equipment is needed for consistent heavy duty use
Needed more videos on whites 🕵♂️
Thank you for bringing up the argument between barefoot and arched designed footwear. I find the stance that barefoot enthusiasts take is essentially body shaming to those who cannot find comfort in minimalist shoes. That’s why there are different shoe designs targeted to fit various feet.
Completely agreed about the need for arch support depending on application. I tried doing heavy work on hard surfaces with barefoot shoes-with foot strengthening exercises, toe spacers etc.. I ended up injuring my feet. My approach now is to choose shoes (with varying levels of support) based my immediate use case that day or in that situation.
I continue to sometimes wear zero drop shoes SOMETIMES & do foot stretching and strengthening exercises within the limits of real life with a family and a full time job.
It’s often argued that our ancestors didn’t have or need arch support, and this continues to be true for many people around the world. My context is not parallel. My feet don’t have their original splayed-toe shape. My feet have not been conditioned by years of no arch support. I don’t have time to make it a full time job of my feet.
So, I land somewhere in the middle. I consistently go for wide-toe-box based on need, but I am not a shoe arch ideologue of any variety.
Good job, finally a pair of boots not taking short cut
I got my first pair of whites this week. I'm a convert. They're very tight but EXTREMELY comfortable and stable. They are the exact same style as all my cheap boots but somehow look 1000× better too.
Literally laughed at the six pack foot - I love my Lems for walking around, but sometimes you need a work boot.
I have the ramblers in red dog rough out and LOVE THEM. I was really worried about the super high arch cause I have pretty flat feet. But they broke in after about a week thankfully and I’m a convert to whites. I want em all. Loving Arch March!
I'm flat footed as well. Do these high arch boots really provide enough support to the arch and ankle that helps people like us? I have bought so many boots that don't work out for me EVEN when I have my orthotics in them. Sometimes the last is too flat to make a difference. I'd love to not have to wear the orthotics and just rely on the support of the boot but have never found one to work yet. Then again, I have never actually spent the money on a high quality boot like Whites, Nicks, JKs, etc.
@@AirborneBuck Howdy! So my experience (purchased about a month ago and I’ve worn these roughly 4 days a week) has been fantastic on the 55 last. I was genuinely concerned that the arch support would be TOO much. I’m so used to flat bottomed sneakers/shoes/boots that I thought the last may just not work for me. On the contrary, it’s been fun trying these out and while I still have a bit more break in to do these have already started moulding to my foot wonderfully. Your mileage may vary here, but I’m going to get the kilties; one, to fill some volume since I have fairly skinny ankles and two, because I want to see what these look like with them.
I would 110% try out a high last boot from one the PNW brands. Especially if you require insoles in other boots. To save a few doll hairs you could try out a pair of Whites stichdown C350 Cruisers/Cutters/Ramblers (vs their full hand sewn stichdown)
FYI- I purchased my Ramblers via Nepenthes New York. They have a couple Rambler make ups that are ready to ship!
@@alexperez3651 thanks so much for the feedback! So, you feel like you're getting enough support in your feet, ankles, hips, and back? Another issue I've faced is pretty bad Achilles tendinitis. It's becoming a pretty bad issue for me. After doing some research and watching some videos I really think a high last boot could work for me. I am on my feet at least 8 hours a day on hard concrete in a construction setting. I'm way too young to feel the pain I do every single day. I'm ready for a change.
Thanks again. I am highly considering in investing into a pair of high last PNWs!
@@AirborneBuck no worries at all, sorry to hear bout the issues you’re having. I’ve been fortunate enough not to have the pain you are (I’m in an office. A bit of workwear cosplay im afraid lol) and while I can’t guarantee that the boots will alleviate any of the issues I can say with confidence that it’s worth a try at the very least. Here’s hoping the boots help and/or you find another solution, cheers!
@@alexperez3651 thanks again for the info! I understand the experiences always vary! It's just good to hear experiences of people that may be in a similar circumstance as me. I hope you continue to love your boots and I very well may invest soon. I think you're right and it may very well be worth at least trying 😄
Damn this is the exact boot I’ve wanted for a while now and was saving up, and now everyone’s gonna run out and buy them haha
Also love this series. Been wearing tons of barefoot shoes mostly to strengthen my arch but wanted one decent boot like this for days when I have harder work and want to give my feet a rest
They are truly amazing boots, I really hope you will be able to get a pair! I got them as the ramblers with the hand-sewn stitchdown. Kind of want a pair of the 350-cs though aswell so I can rotate between them some days.
Great video! This is the old Rambler. I've worn a custom pair of these daily for work the past two years (shout out to Kyle at Baker's). I'm a chiropractor and a sports physician and I'll never wear another boot for my specific work related tasks. I am on my feet 10-12 hours a day treating patients. I treat patients on an adjusting table which has pedals that elevate sections of the table to allow for comfort and efficacy of the treatment. These boots allow me to press (step) on the pedals while the patient is laying on the table without discomfort and are the only boot I've been able to find that work this effectively. They are phenomenal, but make no mistake, this is a work boot, not for chilling at Starbucks or sitting in an office. They are substantial (heavy), the arch on this boot is legit and the Lineman's shank is incredible for protecting your arch and Plantar Fascia. Anyone involved in any type of work involving standing on firm surfaces, ladders, shovels, etc. should look no further than this boot. Great job, Weston!
How did you size these for yourself? Went down half a size?
@@sayeedsalim I went through Kyle Baker at Bakers. I am 14.5 on the Brannok and I ended up with a 13.5 in this boot, so a full size under my normal Brannok. They fit perfectly. YMMV.
I know you said these are for work only, but for being around and about, is the boot pretty good in helping out with plantar fasciitis and if I tend to have higher arches?
@@El_Honey_Badger, this boot actually helped tremendously with my plantar fasciitis. I'd highly recommend them! YMMV. Best of luck!
That's a pic of my squad and I on the Ferguson Fire at 8:42 in the video. We caught a 1 acre spot on day 14. I'm famous now, thanks!
Which PNW boot maker seems to be used the most in the field or people are seeing advantage of?
I think these used to be called Ramblers. I have a pair and really dont like the arch. I have multiple pairs of logger whites and that arch is comfortable. The arch on my ramblers is too high on the outer edge of my foot. It would be great if they flattened that part out a bit while keeping the high arch on the inside of your foot. Other than that I really like them. The 2021 wedge sole is super cushy and grips ice really well.
Edit: I’ve been wearing them for about 9 months now as work boots and hoping the arch will eventually mold to the shape of my foot. They are better now but I still have to often change them out for a lower arch boot toward the end of my shift.
Got a pair of Truman’s coming so I’m just here for the information and optics. Great content.
I have pretty flat feet. The only time they ever hurt is if a shoe tries to force an arch into them.
i dont wear boots but as a kid who loved watching those 'BIG TRUCK' videos they'd sell on TV, these videos are are totally enjoyable
@RoseAnvil please get a Foot Doctor in the channel and do a interview and go over how to design a custom boot for those of us with jacked up feets..
After dating a podiatrist for some time, I realized the importance of wearing shoes that are balanced. If a shoe or boot is not the same height at the ball and the heel, then there will be imbalance. I wore Danner Fort Lewis 10 in. back in the service in the 80’s and 90’s. They had a relatively low arch and I put a ripple sole on them. I have a feeling that these boots, although aesthetically, pleasing and nice to look at, would destroy my feet. It’s nice to put an old pair of Chucks ya’ know? Great video
Same thoughts. Any luck finding a boot or outsole that fits the bill? I can't go the barefoot route - just silly looking to me
@a brosh I want to try birken stock qs700
@@mexdrago3009 I've wondered about them too. I put them in the weirdo category (like most of my shoes) - still hard to believe there's no zero drop offering from vibram, etc. for resoleable outsoles. Can I get a zero drop boot that approaches a normal boot in appearance? Doesn't look like an elf boot/food sack/space sneaker?
Look how beautiful the leather is on the inside
Great title
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Fantastic title
Is indeed is.
Probably on purpose to drive engagement.
oh how my nearly flat feet would love these boots. maybe someday i can add a pair to my wardrobe, now that i see how awesome they are. thanks for the rundown, weston.
I have plantar fascitis, and I do take time to do the therapeutic exercises and stretches, but I need arch support rehardless ... and both my Nicks urban loggers and my White's service boots have enough arch support in them to get by - but I need moar arch support than that, truth be told - like Birkenstock levels of arch support. Oh, and a shank (no matter what its made of) IS NOT arch support. Shanks have a stiffening effect that relieves SOME strain on the arch, but they DO NOT support the arch. Reducing strain and supporting are 2 different things. I'll give these things a look. Thanks for pointing out the 55 last to me.
Since were in the same canoe, this is when you have both this boot and the custom orthotic. And since we are paying a ton for these. You custom design the boot around the orthotic and foot. I have no idea why this isnt being with with Foot Docs...
Hi @Rose Anvil, would you ever consider doing a resoleable hiking boot showdown? I want to get some resoleable leather hiking boots but don’t exactly know where to start. The ones that intrigue me the most are the Danner Explorer and Hoffman Hiker in all leather. 2 most important factors are longevity and comfort.
Kenetreks are one of the best. Danners just aren’t very durable. I got two seasons out of a pair of danners. My kenetreks have two seasons on em and they look brand new still.
I’m standing here looking down at my CAT boots and thinking my arches hurt! Cat’s lasted a year (I’m tough on em). Gonna have to check these out!
Buy them, absolutely worth the price. Your body will thank you
An extra 2" for a short person. Well worth the price!
the thing with barefoot shoes is that you don't need to train you feet since walking alone will train them, compared to the west in asia we wear very small heels and little to no arch support, but I still benefited from barefoot shoes cause of the Wideness my feet are 11.5cm wide 45eu length.
I used to wear 47eu cause my feet are so wide I was always tripping on any thing cause of long shoe it would be like extra 2cm in the front, so most of my life I wore sandels, and shoe when I was running or playing sports.
Got a pair of these and ended up returning them to Baker's because I had the same thoughts as you. The shelf created by those extra layers of leather was just too much. I absolutely love the aesthetics of the Cutter, but I would need them to leave out at least the lineman shank before I could imagine trying to break them in. I guess high arch is just not for me. Fantastically built and beautiful boot though.
Arch support is objectively not for everyone, some people enjoy moderate to high arch support - it feels good for them, but going from regular shoes and stereotypical boots to a high arch support boot is a huge shock for everyone because for years and years and years you have never walked in something like that before.
@@mad0uche More or less the same as going with ultra flexible barefoot footwear after growing up wearing Nikes & Red Wings - you're in for a shock lol. In either direction, TAKE IT EASY if that hasn't been your norm!!!
@@RyTrapp0 That's the thing with some of these boots too, not the whites in particular, but most of these boots don't come with insoles and your foot has to break in an oak tanned piece of leather that molds to your foot. That alone is a culture shock to most people, walking on essentially a hard piece of leather, walking on something that isn't squishy.
Just bought a pair of these after trying the 350 with a logger heel/ outsole. They're a bit more practical for everyday use, better on flat, hard surfaces than the logger style. A great blend of heritage craft and modern looks.
I've been in love with the style of the C350 for a long time, sucks that they've got such a narrow toe box
Have you done a video on the nicks travelers would love to see a comparison video as I'm currently between the 2 keep up the great work !
Love it!!! Just order my pair of these boots! Can’t wait to wear them.
Yepp. Definitely the boot I've been wanting for about the last 4 months. Ordered Nick's moc toe for starters. These are next. Then JK forefront.
White said they'd make it as the rambler with handsewn stitch down as a custom order.
Thank you for this. I need a boot for medical reasons that has a high arch. Honestly being in tons of pain just need something to support me. Ill def be looking into this...
They have the Perry and Millwood on sale right now for $260 [still not in my size, of course], but then these jump up to $575 again but at least maybe in stock and not wait 2 or 3 months?
The Perry and Millwood are both on the 1972 last and very low/flat arch support. Call White’s and ask for Christy in sales…she will get you where you need to be.
Drew’s is building me up a pair of wedge sole 8” loggers built on the 55-1 last and I can’t wait to get them
Ha! I have a similar build/re-craft with them right now.
Great review as always. Your passion for this makes the channel great! Can we get a traditional leather hiking boot series vs modern hiking boot series? (ie Velasca vs Lowa)
I just got the Frank’s Rainier boots which is built the same way. Great boots!
I do both. Work in high arch, train in barefoot shoes, or actually barefoot. It doesn't have to be one or the other
I just realized when he said he'd carry 100 lbs of gear that he's really strong. You can't tell from his baggy shirts, even though he's said many times before he was a firefighter
Great review! Fascinating look at the inside and the logic of it all. ❤
I got these boots as the Rambler before whites removed the page for 'em. The arch support was perfect for me right out of the box.
13:26
Whats crazy is if you multiply both measurements from the red wing (.86 & 1.3 multiplied by 1.5) you get almost exactly the dimensions of the Whites.
.86 x 1.5 = 1.29
1.3 x 1.5 = 1.95
I rly liked ur boot videos before but u did some crazy edits on this one. Keep it up everyone appreciate u keep it up bud
I really appreciated the breakdown of the reason for arch support. Good video.
its worth noting than ankle support has a serious trade off, the less your ankle can do its job and flex with the terrain the more that force will be applied to the knees. obviously there's times when you need that extra ankle support but its worth considering.
Just ordered my second pair a few days ago. Love White’s!
It's so cool to see how they made such a high arch. I would love to see how Dansko achieves their high arch support!
As a purchaser of the Ramblers, i am converted to high arch boots!! I love my ramblers!!
I love the ramblers. Can’t wait to get mine!
ima carpenter working occasional 12hr days. i used to wear supportive work boots with custom orthotics, my feet, knees and back would hurt most days. i started getting into being barefoot on my off time, and finally made the decision to try some barefoot (no arch support, no heel, etc) shoes at work. it took some adjustment, but my foot, back and knee pain is 99% gone. your feet know how to walk, they do not need all this stuff to help them do what millions of years of evolution have designed them to do.
Can you cut apart the nicks traveler boot to compare 2 wedge sole boots at a similar price point?
Hey, I just want to say I love my Whites Drifters. I am definitely getting more whites boots.
So basically it’s like those secret “lifts” guys put in their shoes to look taller
Arch support gets a lot of attention..and it probably should. But meta tarsal support often gets overlooked.
0:53 this boot claims it does that too.
Arch support is important for me. So cool I need to find good “style/fashion” boots that can last and be polished. Thursday boots are nice. Can you recommend a nice black or chocolate leather boot. Comfort and style is key for me. I’d like to shine them well. I dnt really want a work boot but want style comfort and durability in a nice boot.
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Shouldn't these have the same arch support as the Nicks Robert boot you cut in half, as they are both made on the 55 last.
I think it’s more prominent in this pair because of the wedge sole, if that makes any sense. There’s uninterrupted contact from the whatever surface you’re standing on straight to the arch support.
I think that most people who make it an arch support vs. barefoot argument have for gotten that a person can wear more than one type of shoe. If I need a casual everyday shoe, I would go for a barefoot sneaker. If I am going on a long hike or to a work sight, I would wear boots. The appropriate shoes for the appropriate situation. We spend too much time arguing about false dichotomies.
Yeah, although personally I would never spend money to simulate being barefooted. I literally just go barefoot when I want that.. lol
Thanks for the reviews.. don't have to guess anymore
These videos are the best. Rose Anvil, please keep doing what you're doing!
Awesome yet again, view the selection of boot available over there with jealousy from Scotland 😢
I just ordered a pair using the 4511 last since I have a narrow foot and heel
This was a great video/review! Now i know what i want for my birthday lol
These are a stunning pair!!!!!
once I am on the market for a new pair I am gonna buy one of this. I will still need to put on a non slip flat vibram sole.
You should do a review of McRaes jungle boots. I just bought some of the black all leather ones and I'm enjoying them a lot but I couldn't find a review anywhere on them. Only comments on reviews of Rothco boots.
It looks just like a Whites Rambler
Would be cool to see you review Structural Fire Fighter boots.
I have high arches, these look nice. Love my Kenetrek boots because of the high arches.
Depends on work 🤷🏾♂️
I would think that if you're in your feet all day anyways, carrying so much, that with a gradual and mindful transition to minimalist shoes, you would automatically strengthen your feet along the way.
Nope. I’ve done that for 33 years now and my feet/arch pain gets worse and worse and worse. Carrying bags of cement or car parts/ walking on concrete all day you name it I do it everyday. I finally bought this pair in this video and a logger boot for outdoor work. So far it’s waaay better having arch support. I’m down with whatever works and I can honestly say with my experience the barefoot stuff is bull crap. Your gonna pay for it later in life imo
Great rationale for arch support. Awesome video.
White’s should market it as a “ninja arch”
I have a very high arch.. This would be great but it also looks like a very well made boot, I have whites, and nicks
Definitely benefits to your health doing the barefoot thing but as someone who is a blue collar guy I’d destroy my feet if I didn’t wear something solid.
It’s about time you talk about one of the most important features of any shoe or boot, the arch support and how comfortable it is not just what’s it made out of and how its constructed
That's subjective, your foot is different from mine
@@stauker.1960 I guess you didn’t read my comment or understand it
@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews I guess you don't know or comprehend how unique individuals and their feet are
@@stauker.1960 I guess you can’t comprehend a simple comment. I said good for you that you’re talking about arch support whether it’s high or low, he’s talking about arch support
@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews it would take a lot to fuck up the shape of an arch, and EVEN THEN, some people have weird shaped arches/feet.
COMFORT IS SUBJECTIVE
The graphics on this video are amazing. I loved the school desk shot in particular. 😂😂
Nicks should do that with their mock toe boots I have a new pair of their mock toes I love them but the arch support would be nice too
That review was useful. Thank you.
whoa, someone rockin' some Last Resort ABs!