I would just like to say the lengths you're going to, to keep the rock afire explosion alive for future generations is nothing short of amazing! I have a lot of respect for Aaron, but my biggest worry for the rock afire's future is how close he holds his copyrights and how that will effect the legacy of the rock afire through scarcity of cosmetics, mechs, and overall understanding of this amazing piece of the 80's.
I'm so thankful that these molds managed to survive this long, you and your friends have done wonderful work preserving and presenting these characters for a whole new generation
I wish I could see the parts that were cut, still cool to see stuff about the molds. I am also curious on what other master molds currently exist, since the only ones I know of are some of the ones from the Rock Afire as seen in the video and some from the Hard Luck Bears.
Thank you for doing this. This is remarkable and amazing. I’m so glad that the original mask detail is being preserved and that new molds are created. The preservation and restoration of The Rock-afire Explosion is important to me. Your show looks amazing. Fantastic work. I hope that you have a wonderful existence.
I'm genuinely (and pleasantly) surprised that Aaron allowed any of this to happen. He's really okay with future reproductions of the rockafire animatronics?
bro i love these videos! you don't just show off your work, but you explain in detail how you did it! It's really inspiring and I have always loved animatronics and would like to do something like this myself one day.
For the characters that don’t have fiber glass molds how will you go about preserving the details long term? My main concern is wide beak Looney, I don’t want to see the great detail the mask still has be lost over time.
Another very informative video! I was especially excited for this part of the restoration. I find it so cool how the Hard Luck Bears molds are still intact, and haven't been discarded. And that masks are still being produced from them, as I've seen pictures floating around of them. I do however, have a question. Would Aaron make (If requested) a mask from one of the Hard Luck Bears molds? Also, would you ever be interested in doing a video on the CEC latex masks, and the various versions that they had, as done with the Rock-Afire? Because I also heard that the earlier CEC masks were sculpted by Dave Thomas.
Honestly it seems like with the mask molds. The frames are out there so we have the measurements and materials used. Couldn't full brand new animatronics be made now?
@@coledakers6127 I think what was going on was that people were trying to clone the molds and sell them for profit. Jack has stated that he thinks that the process he came up with can be useful for the FX industry, so I think it's understandable if he didn't feel comfortable with giving out the process publicly if it meant that other groups could exploit his methods and practicality make unauthorized copies of masks. Again, it's disappointing that he had to cut out that part, but it probably was done to not give anyone clues of how to bootleg masks.
Yes some do like beach bear the same mold from 1980, fatz still has his beta mold, and recently the wide beak looney bird mold was found thankfully and oddly.
It was mistaken because of gooney bird. That looney bird mask they found couldn’t fit the mech for gooney bird because it has a different mech design from the Rae.
@@crazyminecraftgamer1306I'm talking about the standardized Hard Luck Bears not the pre-standardized ones. The standardized ones share parts with the Rockafire meaning the eye sizes and such are the same. The Gooney with big eyes is the pre-standardized one.
@@gmrgamingrm sorry I was mistaken, I’m pretty sure it was used until they made another looney bird mask in 1983. But that was after cei quit production of the hard luck bears so they might’ve just forgot that it was still out there or they just kept it just incase if they have people that needed mask for the hard luck bears if they still running after 1983. 1983 is when the current Rockafire explosion was made in. But yes they did use the wide beak mask for gooney
That stuff is expensive my guy. Cheapest printer is probably $1000 without the plastic and no scanning tech, meaning a digital model being remade in a modeling software which could take ages if you want a fully accurate replica of a mask (and it still wouldn’t be accurate anyways.) Also, it’s not like the average person just *happens* to own thousand of dollars worth 3d printer. And even if they did, it would probably be faster to do it the traditional way since the scanning would take a while, and the normal process of 3d printing to make sure your creation doesn’t come out funky and not as desired. Even if they could do all that the complex structure of a mask and the size would mean it’s near impossible to just normally 3d print it and it would most likely needed to be printed in segments and glued together. Not ideal for putting other stuff on top of a very fragile piece of plastic held together with glue. Was there really anything wrong with doing it the intended way? If it still works to this day and is still as efficient then why is there a need to replace it when the other opinion is worse?
@@waitingforwhoasked6403Its actually not as expensive as you'd think. Honestly 3d scanning the masks would've been one of the better bets in the long run honestly. While yes a printer is a big cost up front. They probably spent close to $1k or so with the amount of molds they made. Though unfortunately 3d scanning cant always get everything. I 3d scan props quite often and own several printers. 3d scanning is definitely one of the better ways to go regarding this in some regards as molding can damage the original if you aren't careful. There are Pros and Cons to each. If you mold something and the mold messes up then the original item can be permanently damaged. While if you 3d scan it. It wouldn't have that happen. Honestly 3d scanning nowadays can pick up nearly every detail if you get someone trained in it or get a high grade scanner. Plenty of printing places would've printed it as well for 1/4th the cost of a printer. Plus you'd have the files forever(if you make sure to have plenty of back ups of em) and they won't degrade as original materials can
@@waitingforwhoasked6403Also not to mention the digital model can be edited at anytime. So the issue they had where the mask is too big due to the new molding process could be easily fixed. Scanning and printing is nowhere near as expensive as they did with the molds here. Some Libraries will even have 3d scanners there to use. Its how I get a lot of my stuff scanned. Not to mention Photogrammetry is Free and typically yields the absolute best results if you do it properly. 3d scanning each mask would've permanently preserved them forever
I recently used this process (specifically, photogrammetry in my case) to create an N scale replica of my house. Actually, the photogrammetry model was sort of an intermediate step. I used photogrammetry to create an extremely high-poly model of my house, and imported that into Fusion 360. From that point, I could grab a single reference measurement from my actual house, scale the high poly model to match that measurement precisely, and then use the high-poly model for all other measurements. Then I created an architectural CAD model of the house based on those measurements. This would be far more complicated (at least for me) for something organic like an RAE mask, but would definitely still be doable. I'd use Blender instead of Fusion 360, though. Haha And you'd probably need a gigantic and high resolution SLA printer for these masks. Man, that would be quite the chore. I would stay away from FDM for this use case... way too fiddly to get rid of the print lines for an object of this size.
Nice video on the masks, and I agree with you; taking stuff from others because you don't like them is very petty and shouldn't be committed, especially when your reasoning is absolutely babyish.
I would just like to say the lengths you're going to, to keep the rock afire explosion alive for future generations is nothing short of amazing! I have a lot of respect for Aaron, but my biggest worry for the rock afire's future is how close he holds his copyrights and how that will effect the legacy of the rock afire through scarcity of cosmetics, mechs, and overall understanding of this amazing piece of the 80's.
You can get any mechanical piece or cosmetic part through CEI parts.
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Nice work! I consider the masks as cornerstone that brings the Rockafire Explosion to life.
YES! I’m so happy that the Wide Beak Looney mask survived! It’s so cute!
All the masks look awesome!
I'm so thankful that these molds managed to survive this long, you and your friends have done wonderful work preserving and presenting these characters for a whole new generation
I wish I could see the parts that were cut, still cool to see stuff about the molds. I am also curious on what other master molds currently exist, since the only ones I know of are some of the ones from the Rock Afire as seen in the video and some from the Hard Luck Bears.
That's some serious devotion. Seriously that's crazy. Also it's crazy he kept all of them for so many years.
Thank you for doing this. This is remarkable and amazing.
I’m so glad that the original mask detail is being preserved and that new molds are created.
The preservation and restoration of The Rock-afire Explosion is important to me.
Your show looks amazing.
Fantastic work.
I hope that you have a wonderful existence.
It’s so cool how you were able to make them all as good as new! Keep up the great work!
Fascinating videos! Thank you so much for posting these.
I'm genuinely (and pleasantly) surprised that Aaron allowed any of this to happen. He's really okay with future reproductions of the rockafire animatronics?
I'm not sure why it would be surprising. I've worked with Aaron for nearly 10 years now and he has been so kind and helpful.
bro i love these videos! you don't just show off your work, but you explain in detail how you did it! It's really inspiring and I have always loved animatronics and would like to do something like this myself one day.
Aaron said about rotocasting all the way back in Damon’s tour.
Great work and detailed experience.
Sad to hear that the video had to be cut :(
truly amazing! 🤩
This is going to be good
For the characters that don’t have fiber glass molds how will you go about preserving the details long term? My main concern is wide beak Looney, I don’t want to see the great detail the mask still has be lost over time.
lol I wasn’t paying full attention to the vid so I kinda got surprised that Aaron showed up 🤣
Another very informative video! I was especially excited for this part of the restoration. I find it so cool how the Hard Luck Bears molds are still intact, and haven't been discarded. And that masks are still being produced from them, as I've seen pictures floating around of them. I do however, have a question. Would Aaron make (If requested) a mask from one of the Hard Luck Bears molds? Also, would you ever be interested in doing a video on the CEC latex masks, and the various versions that they had, as done with the Rock-Afire? Because I also heard that the earlier CEC masks were sculpted by Dave Thomas.
I’ve heard he will make any mask if he has the mold
@@electricwombat5967 Oh, ok. That sounds good, thanks!
Honestly it seems like with the mask molds. The frames are out there so we have the measurements and materials used. Couldn't full brand new animatronics be made now?
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How did they make these rotocast vinyl mask like what rotocast liquid did they use?
Oh boy
How much progress is finished on Klunk? Will he also have new cosmetics?
4:41 is a bummer but understandable, don’t want anyone stealing your methods.
I don’t get it?
@@coledakers6127how?
@@lkgaming6326it’s confusing
@@coledakers6127 I think what was going on was that people were trying to clone the molds and sell them for profit. Jack has stated that he thinks that the process he came up with can be useful for the FX industry, so I think it's understandable if he didn't feel comfortable with giving out the process publicly if it meant that other groups could exploit his methods and practicality make unauthorized copies of masks.
Again, it's disappointing that he had to cut out that part, but it probably was done to not give anyone clues of how to bootleg masks.
What were people trying to steal? The masks themselves or the molds?
Out of curiosity do the Beta masks still exist? Really like the look of Billybob and Rolfe/Wolfman
Yes some do like beach bear the same mold from 1980, fatz still has his beta mold, and recently the wide beak looney bird mold was found thankfully and oddly.
I really wish all of them were. I'd love to see Rolfe and Dook's beta masks
Hows the restoration on the gaslight jamboree going?
What’s that picture at 5:38 ?? You can only see it for a couple milliseconds but it’s there
Is there any reason the masks themselves can't be made of silicone? Would they be too difficult to paint?
Wasn't wide beak Looney used on some standardized HLB shows? Maybe that's why it was stored over there?
It was mistaken because of gooney bird. That looney bird mask they found couldn’t fit the mech for gooney bird because it has a different mech design from the Rae.
Plus the eyes on gooney bird from the hard luck bears was bigger than the ones on the Rae so the wide beak mask couldn’t fit on the gooney bird mech
@@crazyminecraftgamer1306I'm talking about the standardized Hard Luck Bears not the pre-standardized ones. The standardized ones share parts with the Rockafire meaning the eye sizes and such are the same. The Gooney with big eyes is the pre-standardized one.
@@gmrgamingrm sorry I was mistaken, I’m pretty sure it was used until they made another looney bird mask in 1983. But that was after cei quit production of the hard luck bears so they might’ve just forgot that it was still out there or they just kept it just incase if they have people that needed mask for the hard luck bears if they still running after 1983. 1983 is when the current Rockafire explosion was made in. But yes they did use the wide beak mask for gooney
5:59 why?
i REALLY wish you hadn't cut the video... sure there are bad people out there who do bad things, but the GOOD will always out weight the Bad.
What about uncle klunck?
3D scanning/printing?
That stuff is expensive my guy.
Cheapest printer is probably $1000 without the plastic and no scanning tech, meaning a digital model being remade in a modeling software which could take ages if you want a fully accurate replica of a mask (and it still wouldn’t be accurate anyways.)
Also, it’s not like the average person just *happens* to own thousand of dollars worth 3d printer. And even if they did, it would probably be faster to do it the traditional way since the scanning would take a while, and the normal process of 3d printing to make sure your creation doesn’t come out funky and not as desired. Even if they could do all that the complex structure of a mask and the size would mean it’s near impossible to just normally 3d print it and it would most likely needed to be printed in segments and glued together. Not ideal for putting other stuff on top of a very fragile piece of plastic held together with glue.
Was there really anything wrong with doing it the intended way? If it still works to this day and is still as efficient then why is there a need to replace it when the other opinion is worse?
@@waitingforwhoasked6403Its actually not as expensive as you'd think. Honestly 3d scanning the masks would've been one of the better bets in the long run honestly.
While yes a printer is a big cost up front. They probably spent close to $1k or so with the amount of molds they made.
Though unfortunately 3d scanning cant always get everything.
I 3d scan props quite often and own several printers. 3d scanning is definitely one of the better ways to go regarding this in some regards as molding can damage the original if you aren't careful.
There are Pros and Cons to each.
If you mold something and the mold messes up then the original item can be permanently damaged. While if you 3d scan it. It wouldn't have that happen.
Honestly 3d scanning nowadays can pick up nearly every detail if you get someone trained in it or get a high grade scanner.
Plenty of printing places would've printed it as well for 1/4th the cost of a printer. Plus you'd have the files forever(if you make sure to have plenty of back ups of em) and they won't degrade as original materials can
@@waitingforwhoasked6403Also not to mention the digital model can be edited at anytime. So the issue they had where the mask is too big due to the new molding process could be easily fixed.
Scanning and printing is nowhere near as expensive as they did with the molds here.
Some Libraries will even have 3d scanners there to use. Its how I get a lot of my stuff scanned. Not to mention Photogrammetry is Free and typically yields the absolute best results if you do it properly.
3d scanning each mask would've permanently preserved them forever
I recently used this process (specifically, photogrammetry in my case) to create an N scale replica of my house. Actually, the photogrammetry model was sort of an intermediate step. I used photogrammetry to create an extremely high-poly model of my house, and imported that into Fusion 360. From that point, I could grab a single reference measurement from my actual house, scale the high poly model to match that measurement precisely, and then use the high-poly model for all other measurements. Then I created an architectural CAD model of the house based on those measurements. This would be far more complicated (at least for me) for something organic like an RAE mask, but would definitely still be doable. I'd use Blender instead of Fusion 360, though. Haha And you'd probably need a gigantic and high resolution SLA printer for these masks. Man, that would be quite the chore. I would stay away from FDM for this use case... way too fiddly to get rid of the print lines for an object of this size.
I stand corrected
Weres the table
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People are stealing parts of your video??
Who stole from you?
Hello
Nice video on the masks, and I agree with you; taking stuff from others because you don't like them is very petty and shouldn't be committed, especially when your reasoning is absolutely babyish.