Downfall - Front Line Berlin
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In 1942, young Traudl Junge (Alexandra Maria Lara) lands her dream job -- secretary to Adolf Hitler (Bruno Ganz) at the peak of his power. Three years later, Hitler's empire is now his underground bunker. The real-life Traudl narrates Hitler's final days as he rages against imagined betrayers and barks orders to phantom armies, while his mistress, Eva Braun (Juliane Köhler), clucks over his emotional distance, and other infamous Nazis prepare for the end.
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Everything would be under control after Steiner's assault
Mein Fuhrer... Steiner....
Венк придет
@@user-im8zp8ot9d scheiße
Mein Fuhrer, Steiner....
Era una maldita orden!!!
Quick note on the translation.
The adjutants translation says "be sensible" as in "Be Sensible, don't go back to berlin, don't get shot".
What he actually says is "Would be reasonable" as in "moving to the west actually makes sense".
Thank you for the clarification! It does change the tone of the scene.
Thank you. Your Deutsch must be good! Sehr gut!
ya the version I watched he says "Not a bad idea" referring to moving the command post west.
That's correct. He says: "Wär vernünftig" with means "that would be reasonable".
The Translator probobly understood "Werd vernünftig" wich would mean "be sensible"
@@Shadow25720 Yes an underling telling a general to "be sensible" is a bit unlikely.
“I’m 1000 meters from the front! Now 900 meters… now 800… now 650. Damn, the Russians move fast!”
Easy to advance when you throw away thousands of lives to race towards a victory you've already won.
My failure, the Soviets will be at your bunker door in an hour......... actually, forty-five minutes. They'll be delivering pizza and have questions about your extended car warranty.
@@Lonovavir Tell them if the pizza arrives cold they can forget about the 10% tip!
@@jakeman52 tell me you dont know history
@@jakeman52 nice bullshit asiatic hordes myth you got going there.
Imagine being a German soldier during the last few days of the war knowing that your country will lose but out of pure desperation you have to fight
Russian’s have to be stopped before Atlantic
These Germans were fighting for their country, and they knew that they were on the wrong side of history. After Kursk the Soviets were not going to stop until they were in Berlin.
All the higher ranks would have served in WW1, and how that ended would predispose them to fighting it out militarily.
@@scottl9660 Not only that, the release of the Morgenthau Plan and strategic bombing convinced them (not unreasonably) that defeat meant annihilation and they were dead either way. Either they die fighting or they starve or get executed in a few months. This is why US army was pretty pissed when the Morgenthau plan was made public as they noticed a significant stiffening of resistance.
@@jrus690 "They knew they were on the wrong side of history" Not true, that's just hindsight from today. Back then it wasn't like that - and in fact, if you ask any Wehrmacht soldiers today they'll tell you they wanted to defend against Bolshevism and that still stands true today.
General Wiedling was perhaps the last high ranking man in Berlin that truly grasped the reality of what they were facing. It was a hopeless situation: 1.5 million Soviet troops against only a little more than a shattered mix of 85,000 Wehrmacht, SS, Hitler Youth, and Volksturm.
He is also one of the few generals who wanted to evacuate the civilians in Berlin and he even think about the conditions of his wounded men.
They were not fighting for Germany... but for all of Europe. We all lost when Germany fell and we see the repercussions today.
@africanlipplateandbonenose3223 I'm surprised to find someone who sympathizes with such grandiose ideas, "for all of Europe".
@@africanlipplateandbonenose3223 cry about it
@@africanlipplateandbonenose3223 lebensraum?
I love when he gets to the Fuhrer bunker and they ask the General what he wants and he says, without skipping a beat, "I'm here to be shot." And the guy just looks at him.....
Era um tempo onde homens realmente honravam o que tinha no meio das pernas
@@DiegoSilva-vc4lywtf are you in about
The younger officer who accompanied Weidling to the Bunker was Siegfried Knappe. His memoir "Soldat" documents these events.
Thanks for the comment. I will check out the book. Interesting how some Germans wrote just English memoirs. Always interested in those books.
Thanks.
From now on, he's not just any unnamed lieutenant. He's now Leutnant Siegfried Knappe!
I remember reading Soldat for the very first time decades ago and for me it was the most honest and truthful account of a normal germans experience of the war. We often only see the viewpoint of the victors, never the losers. If you want a good book about the german experience then Soldat is the one to read for sure.
@@bobbazley5376 ill read that thanks, war has some unusual outcomes, lots of german ladies married british soldiers, returning to the uk to raise families, hence there are now lots of children of these mixes who are english but love both countries, in my little village alone there are 6 such children, im one of them .
I've seen this clip a few times and I just realized you can hear Russian Katytusha rockets in the background.
I was reading this comment just as I was realizing the same thing wow
nope that’s a panzerwerfer lol
panzerwerfers played a crucial role in the Berlin defence.
@@mcbrians.8508 I didn't know German have their own mobile rocket launchers vehicle. I dicided to do some research on it and it's quite fascinating how similar it sounds with its soviet counterparts like katusha. For those who are interested here some video of Panzerwerfers firing its rocket czcams.com/video/fMcVIfebarM/video.html
is a nebelwerfer
Sounds like Nebelwefers to me (thanks company of heroes! XD)
I've watched the full movie and I gotta say this is the best movie I've ever watched. It shows the drama, the history, and the horror which soldiers and officers faced during the war.
Terrific movie. It took me a few watches to really get it: it is what The End of The World really looks like. It is all about human weakness. Everyone knows they're doomed. They just don't want to face it. They are too embarrassed to surrender despite the fact that if they did so, they and thousands of other people might live.
@@Mourtzouphlos240 At this point a surrender wouldn’t just be a military surrender. The German people had been lied to, inculcated with semi-mystical theories about their place in history, told the madmen who led them into the hell they were living had done so out of some grand master plan, and told if they just held out a little longer the Fuehrer’s “wunderwaffe” would smite the sub human armies of Slavs and Americans at their doorsteps.
After being fed years of propaganda, being bombed out of their homes, and being half starved - it’s no wonder most Germans embraced gotterdamerung and saw their own personal fates inextricably linked with that of the 3rd Reich.
yes it was very good -- showed the madness of how they turn on each other
one of my favorites
the real horror was what those solders and officers did to civilians during war. Germans got what they deserved .
Weidling is a badass. See that little pat on the arm he gives his adjutant as they're picking themselves up off the floor? Just a little subtle thing to show he's one of the few general officers in the total insanity of Berlin 1945 to give a damn about his men.
Well he did save his life
When the enemy is 1000 meter away and you're under active shelling. Reality isn't something you get to ignore 😂
「よくやった。助かった」という合図ではないのですか?私はそう思いました
@@user-ux3mp1ft6c OP's original argument is reinforced by the scene where he takes a moment and looks at his dead and wounded men after the blast. He did care about them.
部下を大切にしているというのがわかりますよね。
I love how he gives him an "attaboy" pat for saving his ass
I love the attention to detail. you can hear the Katyushka rocket launchers firing in the background because they're THAT CLOSE. Chef's kiss.
I love Downfall and Bruno Ganz was incredible as Hitler. One of the few films that I think could've been better for being slightly longer. I would've liked to have seen more combat scenes as the Russians encircled the depleted German lines.
His performance was a caricature. When in private Hitler spoke mildly, didn't roll the "R". Ganz took his inspiration from Hitler's speeches, not from witnesses or from the secretly taped conversation between him and the Finnish delegation.
wish there was a tv show with seasons , and bruno and all this actors being in them , the first years of hitler in power being season 1 , and seasons up until the bunker scenes leading to this movie, the tv show that shows the war from hitler and the german generals perspective
There is an extended version of it hard to come by and don’t think it was made for English subtitles. You can see some extended scenes on CZcams
Completely disagree. Hitler's final weeks were punctuated with ridiculous manic outbursts, drug-fuelled hysteria and fantastical plans to move fictional divisions. He may have been calm and composed in the earlier stages of the war, but any historian such as Ian Kershaw, Max Hastings or Anthony Beevor will give you numerous factual accounts of his ongoing delusion and mania in the last weeks.
However he would've spoken differently in his own camp compared to when trying to negotiate with other nations
Wow. That junior officer must have had x-ray vision to see that shell coming through that brick wall.
We may presume he heard the whistle of the incoming shell.
in the background you can hear them calling that the shell is gonna hit
Yeah, you can hear the whistle of the shell, and somebody in the background says it's gonna hit, but that still doesn't explain how the aide knew the shell was going to come through the wall at that point. For all he knew it could have hit the ground outside.
@@daniel_sc1024 isnt it about the longer the whistle the more closer it is to you? or less? i cant remember.
@@Thenotsofamousone My point is if you're in a building with brick walls and a roof and you can hear a shell in the vicinity, but you can't see it, how would you know where it was going to hit?
0:01 I love the attention of detail on that Opel Blitz (gray transport truck) with sandbags on the sides to protect the engines from enemy bullets.
0:55, I have seen other translations of this line where the subordinate says "not a bad idea general" which I find much more humorous and fitting for the generals reaction but may be inaccurate
„Would be reasonable General“ is the accurate translation
He says "It would be reasonable General"
@@tense2682 no he does not es he does not say "Es wäre vernünftig General" but the more colloquial version "Wär Vernünftig General" therefore "Would be reasonable General"
“Der Untergang” take is the movie itself or a meme; regardless it is a well known masterpiece.👍🏽💯🏆
Lots of meme = good movie
To be fair the meme isn't about bad acting or a bad movie, it is taking how high quality it is and applying outlandish situations. I doubt you will find many who meme it who don't like the original movie just as much.
@@Swarm509This. I’m pretty sure the guy who acted Hitler in this movie enjoyed the memes as well
@@JessiContingenC He had mixed Feelings about it
@@Sniper_XPEHOB yea he was like “they’re funny but people should also not see Hitler as a joke or lose the substance of the scenes hitler is losing his shit in” and he’s right
Saw this movie in the theatre, re-watched it a couple of times. It's one of the greates war film ever made
i consider it more of a biographic movie than a war movie , per se.
@@LadyFairChildVideotrue
I bought the DVD once it was out. Not a bad performance by any actor, in my opinion, all were great. Definitely the best foreign language film I've ever watched!
I once saw a Korean war film, 'brotherhood'. That was also a superb foreign language film.
Same here! I bought the DVD and binge-watched it for a week! And this was after I'd seen it in a theater. Had to have it!
Theres actually a mistake in the subtitles. At 0:55 he says "(das) wär vernünftig", which means "this would be sensible / this would make sense". Even the staff knows that this last-stand orders are stupid.
Yes, any sane commander would. Clearly it was the end and this commander was probably the last few loyal ones still believing in the cause
They think they could made a deal with the western Allie’s against the Soviets but that was also stupid
@@ConstantineJoseph By the very end the Generals around Berlin were ignoring Hitler and moving west in a some incredible rear action retreats/pushes just to get to the western allies. Everyone in Berlin was fucked at this point, they just didn't want to surrender to Russians.
Thank you for copy/pasting the same comment a dozen other people did
It’s alright, Steiner’s counterattack will stabilize the line…
Steiner never got the order; like this guy, his phone line was cut..
Mein Fuhrer, Steiner....
@@jackburton7483 Das war ein Befehl!
0:22 What a guy. Could see that rocket trought a wall.
He heard it
I'm pretty sure a katyusha can be heard through a thin stone wall
0:55 Mistranslation: He didn't say "Be sensible". He said "Would be sensible" commenting on how it would actually make more sense to move the command post westward.
0:28
I like how in the background you can hear the sound of Katyushas
Or neblewefers
And that’s seems more likely in this case as they would have seen the smoke from the Russian launches and fired counter battery fire upon them
Then again given the Berlin garrison was almost out of everything, they probably didn’t have nebelwerfers let alone ammo for counter battery fire.
@@charlesuplifted5216 the entire purpose of the katushya was that it was mobile to avoid counter artillery unlike conventional artillery lol, there were hundreds of soviet artillery pieces pounding Berlin, these are katushyas, Germans prob didn’t have many left too
i always thought it was an alarm
@@charlesuplifted5216 конечно бы открыли)) если бы ваш бегущий генерал ,изначально с воздуха бы их прикрыл
This movie is the best world war II movie ever. Why? Because its historical accuracy and its drama are second to none. 9/10 as a movie. 9/10 for historical accuracy. Just pretty darn good.
Schindlers List was better in every way
@@TheCaesarion Schindler's List wasn't a war movie and glamorized a Nazi. Schindler was a war profiteer first and humanist second.
@@TheCaesarion I think the guy mean’s military wise.
@@angelofdeath450 military wise it’s All Quiet on the Western Front.
No war movie ever made me feel so against war like that movie.
@@TheCaesarion again. WWII. Not WWI.
Though, Saving Private Ryan is best in my opinion followed by Full Metal Jacket
"Meldung, Hr. General?"
"ICH SOLL ERSCHOSSEN WERDEN!"
Goosebumps on that😮
The idea that it all it took to win a battle was 'fighting spirit' was toxic. You could never be hopelessly outmatched according to Hitler, so the only losses had to be someone's treason or cowerdice.
From day one it was always the other guy's fault. The Poles, the jews, the russians, the partisans, never the fucking Germans.
Worked for the Vietnamese quite well.
@@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289"Fighting spirit" was only a minor reason for North Vietnamese victory. Corruption, lack of US support, and the Arabs cutting off oil to the west due to the Yom Kippur War were far greater factors of why South Vietnam fell.
@@imgvillasrc1608 I agree.
That was a tough thankless job to defend Berlin.
This is one of the best movies of WWII, congratulations!!!
Fun fact the General Aide who’s name is Siegfried Knappe move to the United States with his wife and Children after the war.
He died in Ohio in 2008. It would funny if any of his children or grandchildren joined the US military.
Considering how hitlers own nephew joined the 🇺🇸 Air Force, woe the total irony 😂
He wrote a memoir. A pretty good read.
Thanks for the factoid
America: So why do want a job with me Mr. Knappe?
Siegfried Knappe: My former employer’s country……… company failed, as in catastrophic failure. And my boss committed suicide.
@@Lonovavir lmfao, good one
Thanks for posting will watch tonight. 👍
I love the sound of the Katyusha rockets in the background.
0:09 *When you're trying to call your mom that you missed the bus and that you'll be late*
0:28 You can hear in the distance the katyusha's rocket artillery firing, the soviets really were moments away from them
Ironically if they were that close to them than they couldn't be hit by them.
That general is a legend
Wishing there were more scenes like this!!
Much, if not all of the destruction and fighting scenes were filmed in a city quarter slated for demolition and reconstruction. The City? St. Petersburg, previously called leningrad, in Russia. Considering leningrad's history from1941-44. I wonder what some of the very oldest St Petersburg residents must have thought about the filming.
Having spoken with people who lived through Berlin in 1945 and others involved at the time, the film seems to be quite accurate.
The whole point of the war was to destroy these ancient Tartarian cities. The battles were staged. Patton found out about it and they dealt with him before he could return to America. If you read the frustration with their armies not obeying orders, its because Patton and others were never really in command. They were supposed to be figureheads.
I thought it was filmed in Czechoslovakia
@@marcusfieldfield4069 Czechoslovakia didn't exist in 2004
0:36 when I try to call my mom after I forgot to answer 5 minutes ago
That motorbike trip reminds me of an average morning commute in Hull.
Well, the good thing about this is you didn't have to march far to the front line. The front line came to you.
Just have to hang on for Steiner's counter attack. He'll definitely break through
It's Wenck.
Steiner's phone line got cut right when that call hit..
Mein Fuhrer, Steiner....
So much attention to detail even in this scene.
General welding for one has got puttees on .
I’m confident Steiners counter attack will stabilize the front, no need to pull back
In this movie you get to see how much chaos was going on in Berlin in 1945.
The translation is different in this one and removes one of the funnier lines. When Weidling explains he's to be shot "because they think I moved my command post to the west," his aide's comment is translated in the dubbed version as "not a bad idea, Herr General!"
Great film
For all who are interested: The Film "Downfall" ist based on a specific Hitler-Biography by the German Historian Joachim C. Fest, who also had an advisary role in the script. Fest was criticised in Germany for characterizing Nationalsocialism from the nature of Hitler, instead of adopting an institutional perspective. But his Biography - translated also in English - is undoubtedly the most literary and sarcastic thing ever written about Hitler...
Helmuth Otto Ludwig Weidling - General der Artillerie - (2 November 1891 - 17 November 1955)... died on 17 November 1955 in the custody of the KGB in Vladimir of an apparent heart attack. He was buried in an unmarked grave at the prison cemetery. On 16 April 1996, the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation declared Weidling non-rehabilitative.
yeah well fuck the russians now.
He really should have moved his command post about 100 miles west. If he had, he might not have spent the rest of his life in captivity.
Well depends how you look at it. "the rest of his life" was only a few more months after capitulation. This particular General was one of the honorable ones. He died in Soviet captivity in 1945 due to amonia.
@@ItsShane79 You know nothing. He wasnt honorable, he was envolved in flooding of the Berlin subway, killing his own soldiers and German civilians. Also he died on 17 November 1955 of an apparent heart attack. He was sentenced to 25 years' imprisonment for war crimes committed in the occupied Soviet Union.
@@ItsShane79in all likelihood he was neglected by his soviet captors. may he rest in peace
@@ItsShane79he actually died from a heart attack in 1955
this movie is awesome, pure realistic
The generals aide in this movie is based off of Major Knappe who would later go on to right a book about his war experience and the movie draws heavily from his memoir
The young adjutant who saves Weidling's life is loosely based off of a real officer by name of Siegfried Knappe. Knappe was a highly decorated combat soldier and who served on Weidling's staff in the Battle of Berlin. He was captured by the Soviets and was imprisoned for over a decade in the gulag system. He was eventually released and wrote a book called 'Soldat' about his entire wartime experience. I highly recommend it for those interested.
How in The Hell could I retreat when the Front is in my Face?!
I just realized you can actually hear the rockets in the background lol
nobody talking about the constant soviet rocket barrage in the background. sounds so cool but creepy at the same time
A general "wie er im Buche steht" as we would say in German. Like out of a book (textbook example).
How new year felt as a kid
0:17 when the 6th sens is activated and devotion is at 100%, save the general at all cost even if the war is already lost.
If only that table at the Wolf's Lair was a little lighter this all could have been avoided
They still wanted to fight against the USSR but just do a deal with the West.
Late war, the Allies actually debated whether Hitler was more useful if left alive (he was making awful strategic decisions by this point) lest he be replaced by somebody of competent faculty of mind.
Esse filme é muito bom. Ainda tenho em DVD
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0:00 How parents describe their journey to school
Hitler never had the makings of a Varsity Fuhrer
Average Berlin Silvester.
one mistake in translation, wäre vernünftig means here "that would be a sensible choice" instead of "be sensible"
It's short for "would be sensible" I guess. At least I would translate it that way.
It's more like "It would make sense, tho."
Practically the same freaking thing.
Epic scene
One of the best ever made
Steiner's counter offensive will come any day now
00:55 - he doesnt say "be sensible general" - he actually said - "that would be reasonable, general."
No. The translation is correct. The "Be sensible" is a response to the general leaving to report for execution. He is pleading for him not to go to his own (meaningless) death.
@@hfztt No, the translation is not correct. "Wäre vernünftig, General" means "would have been reasonable, general"; it refers to allegation that Weidling ignored orders and moved to the west which he didn't. First hand from a native German.
"Meldung, Herr General?"
"ICH SOLL ERSCHOSSEN WERDEN!"
So cynical😮
When pressure at works leads to miscommunication.
The general was captured by the Soviets and died in captivity
Fun fact: The actor for the General is the same actor as the Squad Leader in Stalingrad 1993.
генерал.. командир отряда.. в итоге его заключительная роль - военнопленный умирающий от тифа на камчатке
Talk about a promotion, after joining another military no-less
That's incorrect. The Actor here of General Weidling is Michael Mendl, he didn't participate in the movie Stalingrad.
Uhm no, that is another actor
I have known this clip for years but only just know i hear those missiles getting fired (starting at 0:27)
The junior office means ‘not a bad idea’ when he says ‘be sensible’.
Ah 1945 the year everyone ran west as fast a possible or ate cyanide
VERY REALISTIC... one of the best ww2 from a german perspective. I aint german but these movies feel so real to the actual....as best as it can be. Can germany still made such good movies??
Anglo-saxons fed and raised Hitler
0:21 This man can see the missiles on air 😄
russians in the comment section as usual taking all the credit for the work ukrainians, belarusians, kazakhs, balts, georgians, and all other soviet republics assisted with. along with the help of americans, brits, canadians etc. maybe this "i take credit for everything, i am invincible" is what led to their current police state in the first place.
The most of the fallen soldiers of the Red army are Russians
Чтобы ощутить этот триумф Победы полегло немало советских солдат
.. в том числе и мой родной дядя
Спасибо вашим героическим прадеду, деду, и двоюродным и родным, дяде, что защитили наше право жить и зваться Человеком
Спасибо Советскому войну победителю
только мертвые видели конец войны.
a putlerostan segodnia nachal novuju vojnu ....... chtoby opiat poleglo nemalo soldat? Putler kaput.
Wenkhe and Monkhe (excuse spelling) are the only two sane officers in amongst the final days of the battle of Berlin and the only two I feel some compassion for
What a movie.
That seen well repeat again in WW3
might wanna study english some more, friend
0:56 "that would be reasonable, general"
not "be sensible, general"
I love this movie, no propaganda
I'm surprised to see so many working vehicles on ground level.
I really liked and respected this guy in the movie. Sad that he died in a Soviet POW camp.
Dont be..he deliberately infected people with thypus
He was still a Nazi
Impressive how they can defend Berlin for more than a weeks consider being rally by a million red army with 10k tank bruvv
Well if the Red army is anything like the Russians in Ukraine then it does make sense.
Trump Reb’s took DC in one afternoon😂
tanks dont do very well in urban combat
It's really, really hard to assault urban positions
Tanks are not much use in city, its more about Soviet manpower, artillery and air at this point
I want to see that movie so badly. Wow those Germans fighting even though the city is crumbling around their ears.
I believe the movie is free on youtube if watching from the US
Very cool scene. Berlin Battle is most cool war ever. Definetly. SCHAIZEEEE.
That soldier should have a rise for saving the general life
0:24
You should get a raise when you stop trying to be funny.
Knock, knock die russen sint da!
Such a well done movie… makes me glad I wasn’t there.
RIP Bruno Ganz.
Such a sad movie. The good guys lost
Don’t cut yourself on all that edge over there
bro is working on fascism💀
now that’s a real general right in the battle with his men
This scene always confused me at 0:23 did that guy see like a shell or a mortar coming when he saved Weidling all it looks like is solid wall
As a sergeant of Airborne Assault Forces from Ukraine after many Russian shellings and bombardments I can to say about too high accuracy of Russian shellings in this movie. In real life Russian shellings especially from MLRS is not accurate but powerful and too dangerous therefore
Throw enough shells in the right direction, and sooner or later you'll hit your target.
Of course....
The MLRS are designed to cover area and I guess you should know that. For precise attacks they use "Krasnopol" or tanks. After all, the best sniper is the 125mm cannon.
@@doublehelix7880 "Krasnopol" too expencive and deficite projectile and I'm survived after few shellings by 125-mm tank's cannon
@@ribielkawaii631 I never said that that "Krasnopol" is mass used instead of ordinary "dumb" ammo. 40 000$ vs. 20-30$ is a factor. My point about the tank cannons is that it have enough precision to take on firing positions from relatively safe distance. Plus it does not need to hit a soldier in an unprotected body part. But if you are forced to leave your position due to it being destroyed by direct hit - job is done.
Moscow will be like this
No
Washington DC.
Probably North Korea some day. That place is just living on borrowed time
Imagine you're fighting off the enemy at the gate, but your boss is like "why did you leave the gate?"