These Ethos videos have been very helpful. I just got my X20S last week and I now have the latest firmware on the Tx and Rx, plus my model setup is mixed and has a safe throttle arming process thanks to all of your content.
Hes the best at it... amazing help. hope FRSKY sends him lots O $$$ as .. not Mr. D, but truly Dr. D is very helpful and complete when explaining all this
Wires, wires and wires…. How do you hook up wires to flash RX from X20s. Cant bid and upgrade from early Accst to V2 unless you are bound…. But you can’t bind until you upgrade firmware…. Wires, wires, wires. PS: great tutorial. Like the very detail ETHOS flick. Us old flyers don’t know all the windows things. How and when to plug, unplug…. You know, so simple it’s just what you do. But not what we do…
Thanks Fred. Just 1 cable (3 wires) 😄 S.Port on the receiver to the S.Port plug on the top of the X20S. ACCST needs to be updated via cable anyway. It’s only ACCESS that supports OTA.
Mr. D. Nice content as always. Hi level. I watched your vid during my Covid infection recovery. I am fighting against the vírus for one more week. I am doing great. I am a Covid killer, yeahhh. Thanks for your class. I will help one friend of mine using this content. It is awesome and just in time. Keep safe. Good flights.
The same way as you flash the ACCESS receivers. OTA would be the first method to try. Or cable if that fails. The TANDEM receivers’ firmware includes all that’s needed. You don’t flash the different frequencies separately.
I have FrSky X18S with a R9 SX access receiver. I’ve been watching videos and I’ve managed to register and bind the receiver. I’ve been attempting to set up a model and gone through the steps, but I don’t get any reaction or movement to any servos. Any help would be nice. Thanks
Unfortunately, CZcams comments is not a great place to try and diagnose problems like this. I’d recommend asking on one of the FrSKY Facebook groups, or the ETHOS Discord. It could be that you just haven’t set up the outputs. But it’s easier to try and understand in those places.
Quick question, when updating an Archer receiver OTA, does it have to be registered first? Or can you pull a receiver out of the package and do an OTA update without needing to go through the registration process?
Hi Darren, thank you so much, new user and you helped me a lot!! Do you know the type of the white connector used on top? I have a 6 pin on top of my TDR6 receiver and unfortunately I damaged it. It is indeed really easy to nick it :(. I did google search, asked in the official FRSky facebook group, but no definite answer. There are so many types that look alike but just a little different. Again, thank you: without these videos it would be very hard. Much appreciated.
Hi Darren. Not sure if you can help. My x20s firmware is updated via ethos suite and I,m trying to flash a rx8pro to accst v1 but when I get to selecting the update on the sd card in the tx it only shows copy,move delete with no flash options, same on my early taranis x9.Do i Need to update the internal module to make this work? Very confused, cheers peter
ACCST v1 will not work with the X20. You need to be on the latest version of the ACCST v2 protocol. The receiver will need to be connected to the transmitter with the SmartPort cable to do the update. Note, the cable order is not the same as flashing with the X9D through the JR bay.
HI Thank you for the video I'm new to Fr Sky and im trying to flash a R8 Pro with a Taranis x9D+2019, ive had this radio a while but never managed to get it to work, the Error "firmware update error device not responding" comes up when i try to flash it using the pins art the back through the smart port or Subus. Would really appreciate your help as I'm totally stuck.
Be careful when using the pins on the back of the radio. They are in a different order to a regular SPORT socket (czcams.com/video/9tncdNDinFM/video.html). In the manual, it looks like the X9D Plus 2019 has an SPORT socket inside the battery bay. So it may be worth trying that (www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Manual/X9DP2019/X9D%20Plus%202019%20X9D%20Plus%20SE%202019%20-Manual.pdf). Though in the manual there is no reference to the pin order. I would imagine it is a normal SPORT/servo order. But worth checking with a multimeter first. On the R8Pro its self. You need to use the white connector, next to the antennae. Using the SmartPort, power, and ground wires. Let me know how you get on.
@@MrD Thanks for replying, I checked out the smart port in the battery bay, but it's not outputting anything.Maybe it needs turning on in the menu? I gave up and ordered a few more Futaba receivers for my Sg14. One of these days I'll make the Taranis system work as more than a sim Transmitter.
The output in the JR bay should definitely work. But just make sure the wire order is correct. Occasionally, the receivers take a couple of attempts to flash them.
HELLO! Darren having garbage time getting om with my mini R9 and Hobby wing Xrotor F7 Micro FC (quad) Going on the record and saying all Firmware has tp migrate to ETHOS Suite. ONE PLACE ALL DAY SORRY IM SCREAMING! CHEERS! On A Positive note I did just Flash the most recent firmware for the mini R9. I am miffed however as there are mot different files for FPORT VERS SBUS?? hmm moving on. Thanks for your hard work!!
On the older receiver there are 2 different firmwares for FPort and SBUS. However, with the new receivers. Switching between SBUS and FPort is just an option on the receiver. So much easier. The issue is that the old receivers were really made for ACCST, not ACCESS. Where there were no OTA options.
Hi Darren, I have been trying to update a rx8r, to fcc. copying the download from frsky it saves as a compressed a Adope Acrobat file which I can,t open on the computer but have put in the firmware file on the transmitter and it just shows the file size and last modification date,I’m obviously doing something wrong put computers arn,t my strong point,any advice cheers peter
Hi Peter. It sounds like you're possibly downloading the manual, which is an Acrobat file. This link will take you to the firmware. www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Firmware/ACCST-2.1.x/FW-RX8R-v2.1.0.zip In there you will find the RX9R_ACCST_2.1.0_FCC.frk file that you need to update the receiver. This is for the latest ACCST v2. If you're still on ACCST v1, use this link www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Firmware/RX8R/FW-RX8R-170224.zip
Hi . I have noticed that my new td r10 does not have an eu/lbt option for firmware? i thought 900 was fcc only and uk was 868mhz? dose the td range of rx only have 1 firmware type? and if so how is the antenna length correct for both? lots of questions but i think im missing something. i havent put it on my new x20 pro yet to try it but seems odd, any information you can share would be interesting
Tandem and ACCESS in general get the region automatically from the transmitter module. When you buy your receiver. It will have the appropriate receiver for the region. FCC is 915MHz and LBT is 868MHz. If you buy a receiver in the UK. The antenna will be correct for 868MHz.
Thats great information. My rx was brought in from china so assume 900hz antenna. Will that make the rx a problem to use in uk at 868mhz. I fly fixed wing and only line of sight. Assume 2.4 is still same as module will select eu lbt if i understand you correctly
I’ve recently purchased an X20S and a bunch of different Archer receivers. Although each receiver came with an S.Port cable none of them were fitted with a servo connector - just bare wires. Two thoughts: 1) could be to save money 2) most likely, it’s because the pin order can vary depending on where you plug it in, so they are making the user fit the plug, so it is there mistake if they get it wrong.
It depends on the receiver you buy. Some are very small. So not having the pins installed gives you the option to direct solder to the receiver to take up less space in the model.
@@MrD Not in my case, they were all Archer. Various different ones ranging from tiny R4 to large SR8 Pro. All have the S.Port cable but none have a servo plug fitted, just bare wires.
It's actually pretty simple and there are a few ways you can do this. Either use a Y cable and plug them both into the same port on the receiver. Or, when you set up a new model, select "2 channels" under the elevator option and you will now have two separate channels. You can also get into some more advanced mixing and use them as "tailerons" if you'd like which I think Darren might already have a video on.
For elevator compensation? You wouldn’t put the curve on the elevator. You would make a free mix using the same source as the butterfly, and output it to the elevator channel. You can then add the curve to that free mix, as well as set the weight.
I have the SR10Pro. I require more than 10 channels. If I'm seeing correctly, channels 9 and 10 are reserved .Channel 9 is for gyro gain. And channel 10 is for flight modes. This makes these two channels unusable because they are reserved. Am I able to "expand" on channel availability by adding another receiver? thanks
You can get access to channels 9 and 10. I’ll have this in an upcoming video. But basically it’s in the receiver options (click the receiver name, near the bind button). But, if you want more than 10, you may need to use something like an SBUS breakout board. That can be set to give you channels 9 to 16.
Good Morning. Just received my X20S. Thanks to your videos I was able to perform all software updates on the tx. and five receivers. I'm doing my best to answer my own questions through experimentation and research. But ,from time t time, I need to ask an expert. So. What voltage setting needs to be adjusted to the transmitter battery ? What should the display show as far as the correct battery voltage ?
Awesome Frank, hope you’re happy with the radio. As far as the battery goes, all I did was use a multimeter to check the LiPo voltage. I compared this with the pack voltage in System > Battery. I just corrected that to the value on the multimeter, erring on the side of caution. Other than that, it’s as it came.
Love the T-shirt! Y'all listen to ZZTop way over there? (Writing this from Texas, USA - home of ZZTop). Getting back on-topic: I used to be a FrSky fan, but their ecosystem is such a mess now. I'm really thinking ExpressLRS is the future. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, ZZ Top are awesome. It was sad to hear of the passing of Dusty Hill. I'm grateful I saw them live when I had the chance. As for FrSky's ecosystem. I kind of disagree. It was getting quite messy. But, I think recently it's become a lot more straightforward. If you can, use ACCESS. If not, use ACCST v2. That way you always just download the latest firmware and there are no dramas. I know a lot of people will probably disagree with me here. But I'm not a fan of ExpressLRS at the moment. Firstly, it does have great packet consistency, which is awesome. Consistency is more important than latency in my view. But the latency on ELRS is good also. However, it is far to limited in what you can do with it. Only having 4 full resolution channels is a no deal from me straight away on a lot of models. Instantly that means no smooth pan and tilt or no variable flaps/crow if you want them. The channels that are on offer are also limited in positions. I could probably just about get away with using, but I still feel like I could be held back. Especially when there is also only 12 channels. This already limits me on some Crossfire builds. However, you remove those aspects, and the performance would be no better than R9 ACCESS, Crossfire, Tracer, or Ghost; depending on the frequency used. I may try it on 2.4GHz one day. But it would be limited to small or basic models. I don't really see me using it on 900MHz. R9 and Crossfire are more than enough on that already. And if more range is what is wanted, I feel stepping to 433MHz with something like DragonLink would be the better way to go.
Interesting! I admit that I have not actually used ELRS yet. I just really dislike how each vendor is trying to lock customers into their particular ecosystem, and things like FrSky preventing Radiomaster from selling D16 compatible receivers - so I really like the idea of a vendor-neutral control link. The docs for ELRSv2.0 (which I don't believe is available yet) refer to a "widehybrid" mode which provides 6 or 7 bit resolution for all of the aux channels. Still only 12 channels. 6/7-bit resolution is quite a bit lower than 10-bit, and might not be smooth enough for camera control, but would probably be more than adequate for flaps. Personally, I've never had a problem with 50Hz refresh rate, so these "low latency" 250 or 500 Hz rates aren't of much value to me. It seems possible that they could implement a "50Hz, high resolution on all channels" mode. We'll see.
To be fair, isn't that what all manufacturers who develop their own products do? You won't find Sony making an XBOX controller. The RadioMaster thing I hear a lot. But at the end of the day, they are trying to sell a cloned receiver. I personally think they've got away with some things pretty well already. The TX16S is basically the sister radio to the Jumper T16. The original T16 was a clone of the Horus X10. You could use the X10 firmware on the T16. So I can understand it when a company takes exception to getting ripped off. Though FrSky weren't 100% innocent in the past. The X9D had a clone JR case and was based internally on another radio. Can't remember the name of it now. If those companies had taken exception with FrSky, I would have understood too. But also, FrSky have put a lot back in to the hobby, most notably with OpenTX development in the past. I'm of two minds with the open source control link. My problem isn't necessarily the firmware side. But, the hardware could be made by anybody, to varying levels of quality. I guess this will come out in the reviews. I have looked a bit more in to ELRS, and it does seem like they are open to having a higher latency version in the future, with more full resolution channels. The other thing that I did see is that the ELRS systems aren't completely compliant with regulatory domain frequencies. LBT is the closest, but none are 100%. I know some people don't care about the legality. But, I'm more concerned about other frequencies being interfered with. Maybe this is also something that will be addressed in the future. I'm open minded. I actually have a 2.4GHz set on the way, as I need to test with it. But I think that this won't be for me yet. Maybe in the future.
Thanks for the prompt reply. I have tried transferring the one you recommended and it is showing on the SD card but when I open it ,it only shows copy,move,delete.do I have to have the receiver plugged in before it gives me a flash option? Cheers peter
Yes. You either need the receiver connected via cable. Or the receiver and RF module powered on (and receiver registered to the transmitter), if you’re performing an over-the-air update.
which receivers are compatible with the x20 is futaba compatible or any other receivers ???. i have many receivers that are not access so i would hate to throw them out and have to buy more new one . and if they can be used what would the setting be in the radio ???
Any FrSky ACCESS or ACCST D16 (flashed with the latest version of ACCST) receivers are natively supported. You can also use FrSky D8 and LR12 receivers with an external XJT module.
First of all thank you for the great work you are doing here! I recently got my X18S and setup everything thanks to your videos. I was not able to do one thing - flash the FAS40 ADV current sensor with the current firmware. I was wondering if I should have it connected to the S.Port of the receiver (GR8) or to the transmitter S.Port directly? Do I have to power it externally? I cannot see in Ethos any place where the TX S.Port is accessed. I understand that when selecting the firmware file in the file manager it should allow me to flash through S.Port but it doesn't give this option. I think a video about using the S.Port of the TX would be generally interesting, to know what it can be used for.
I downloaded the firmware for my X8R to the SD card. I setup to install the new firmware with the special jumper, I go to the FIRMWARE folder, select the desired firmware. The only option I get is DELETE. I don't get the selections to install firmware. What am I doing wrong?😫
When you’re flashing the rx ota does it have to be bound to the radio or it doesn’t have to be bound to radio just apply the power? Thank you much. Your video is very informative.
69th like. Nice. R8 Pro flashed on the plug in wire just fine. R10 said data refused.... gonna try it OTA. No idea. Same exact firmware. Edit, nevermind bad cable came with the R10Pro I guess. OTA woulda worked too. Keep making the awesome vids man!
If this is with range check on, it sounds about normal. I found that my X20S has about half the distance of my X10S Express in range check mode. But in normal operation, there was no problem at all.
Yes. On ETHOS go to the System menu and choose Info. It will appear down the bottom. On OpenTX go to the System menu and the Version page. Click Modules / RX Version.
Hi Darren, one more question if I may. Do you know what type of connector goes into the port of the R8 Pro where the AIN2 and F.Port connects in the front? It has a 0.8mm pin pitch, which is the same as a JST-SUR, but the housing does not seem to match.
Dammit! I totally forgot you did this video. I struggled big time with a few setup issues just last week when setting up one of these. I got them figured out but your video of course addresses every one of them LOL. Oh well, next time I set one of these up I will NOT forget this video. Also, do you laser cut the wooden test planes? Would love one of these in a Jet shape with flaps etc to play with setups. I think one with dual rudders and elevators to mess with advanced control surface setups would be awesome, you sell these?
Thanks, I’m glad the videos are helpful. I don’t make those little planes. My laser is out of commission at the moment too, as it needs a new CO2 tube.
Hi Mr.D is it possible to flash firmware on an archer gr6 receiver which has ACCESS firmware to another firmware that is ACCST? My radio is a Taranis X9D+ with ACCST... Or maybe flash my radio firmware to make it ACCESS compatible? In other works, is there anything I can do to make my radio work with the Archer GR6? I would really appreciate your answer. Thank you kindly.
I can't get this ESC to calibrate, when I plug the battery in with inav slider on full throttle nothing happens, I just keep getting the no signal beep. I've tried using my controller as well, same thing acting like it's not getting a signal. There are two sets of wires coming out of the ESC, one has 2 wires red and black, the other has 3 wires regular servo connector. I'm confused on which one is the signal wire but I tried both of them anyways and still did not have any luck I'm almost to the point of just buying a different ESC, this is the last thing holding the build back from starting testing.
There should be a servo connector with a red, black, and white wire. The black wire is the ground, the white wire is the signal. Don't use the red wire.
@@MrD so I switched the pins, the signal is going to the flight controller, I thought I calibrated the ESC the motor does work now outside of inav, but I can tell it's not calibrated because it only goes up to about 45% then stays there even if I go to 100 throttle, but the servos do not work.
Darren, i have been studying and following along with your videos and they've been great. I finally actually tried to get an airplane ready to fly with my x20s and have hit a wall; a glider with a gr8 installed that has worked fine with my taranis/opentx and i thought i was ready to switch over to the x20s. Everything registered and bound and i have telemetry, altitude and cel voltage, but no pwm output. Outputs page on tx shows everything moving and i never unhooked servo plugs but nothing moves! Ethos 1.0.17 internal FCC 2.1.15 gr8 access v2.1.8 Thanks for any ideas, SteveB
Hey Steve. That sounds really strange, especially having telemetry, as that is showing the bind is ok. I think I have a GR receiver somewhere. Probably the GR6. I'll take a look and see if there are any options on the receiver that might cause issues. But if it was working before, I can't see why it wouldn't now. Especially if it's just been re-registered and bound to a different transmitter.
@@MrD OK, Figured it out. I had to assign channels to pins. Don't really know why since i tried binding to an R10 and it worked without that but perhaps i somehow "un-assigned" them. Anyway thanks for the great videos; big help to those of us who decided to take the plunge into Ethos. SteveB
That sounds pretty strange. They are usually defined by default. Also, they must have been defined when you flew with it. Glad its sorted though. Have some great flights 🙂
Hello thanks for your video . I have a radiomaster TX16S and i am running accst V1 with a frsky G-RX6 do you think i can or should go for accst V2? thanks for your help
Thanks Mal. Yes, you can use ACCST v2. You just need to select the FRSKY X2 protocol when you bind. Should you is up to you. Personally I would. It's worth it when you compare the time to perform the update, to the peace of mind that a pretty big bug has been fixed.
You should have no problem at all with that one. I have a G-RX8 running on ACCST v2 and it works perfectly. If you’ve not used that receiver before, just be mindful when you bind it. By default, pin 8 is set to SBUS OUT. If you want to use Ch7 and/or 8 for servos or a motor, you need to jumper the signal pins for Ch 1 & 2 while you bind.
Will you do a video please on using Tandem x20s and registering a R-XSR receiver and then binding it and also making sure its in right mode. I would assume that the I-flight Nazgul5 v2 digital that i bought with the R-XSR fcc receiver uses s.bus mode and also uses access on Transmitter internal module. But when i click register, then hold f/s button down then power quad up it does absolutely nothing and i feel like blowing through my front door full sprint right now. lol . Frustrating shit and no videos.
To be honest, if you have the ACCESS firmware on the R-XSR, it should just register and bind like any other ACCESS receiver. It sounds like you are doing the procedure correctly. So are you 100% sure it has the ACCESS firmware on it? If not, it would be worth flashing it with ACCESS to be sure. If you’ve not flashed it, it probably has ACCST v2.x firmware installed. You could always try binding as ACCST. If that works, it’s 100% firmware. I use an R-XSR on my demo flight controller. Because of the nature of what I use it for, I’ve registered and bound it quite a few times. There was nothing special going on. It was just flashed with the ACCESS firmware, then registered (failsafe button held when powered on), and bound (just a power cycle). I have it set up using SBUS and SmartPort. I guess by mode, you’re meaning SBUS or F.Port? With ACCESS, that’s a receiver option that you can set after you’ve bound. With ACCST it is different firmwares. To find out, you should be able to find out the protocol in the flight controller configurator. iNav it will be on the receiver page. Let me know how you get on with the firmware.
You definitely can’t bind any TD receivers with RadioMaster. They only work with genuine FrSKY Tandem transmitters. As far as I know, the SR10+ doesn’t bind either.
@@leonguyen120 it’s the wrong hardware. TX16S just uses a multi protocol module. It doesn’t have the capability for Tandem. Only FrSKY tandem specific transmitters do.
I don't know if I made some mistakes but after updating my Taranis X9D to firmware 2.1.0 I'm not able anymore to set internal module to D8. I can reduce channels range to 8 for having lower latency but the only mode I actually can select for my internal XJT are D16 and LR12. Any hint? thank you
Did you also update OpenTX? If so, did you enable the EU option? If you did, just turn it off and re-flash OpenTX. That’s the part that hides D8, not flashing the RF module firmware.
This video saved my sanity ... and my receivers. Great instructions!
These Ethos videos have been very helpful. I just got my X20S last week and I now have the latest firmware on the Tx and Rx, plus my model setup is mixed and has a safe throttle arming process thanks to all of your content.
Awesome Mike. I’m glad the videos helped you get started. Hope you have some great flights.
Hes the best at it... amazing help. hope FRSKY sends him lots O $$$ as .. not Mr. D, but truly Dr. D is very helpful and complete when explaining all this
Thanks for taking your time! Flashing by cable disconnecting all servos is important
Wires, wires and wires…. How do you hook up wires to flash RX from X20s. Cant bid and upgrade from early Accst to V2 unless you are bound…. But you can’t bind until you upgrade firmware…. Wires, wires, wires.
PS: great tutorial. Like the very detail ETHOS flick. Us old flyers don’t know all the windows things. How and when to plug, unplug…. You know, so simple it’s just what you do. But not what we do…
Thanks Fred.
Just 1 cable (3 wires) 😄 S.Port on the receiver to the S.Port plug on the top of the X20S. ACCST needs to be updated via cable anyway. It’s only ACCESS that supports OTA.
You cover a lot of helpful topics for a new person - appreciate your videos!
Thank. I’m glad the videos are helping 👍🏻
Hey Man just want to thank you for being an excellent resource!
Thanks Gary. Glad the videos are helpful.
Mr. D. Nice content as always. Hi level. I watched your vid during my Covid infection recovery. I am fighting against the vírus for one more week. I am doing great. I am a Covid killer, yeahhh. Thanks for your class. I will help one friend of mine using this content. It is awesome and just in time. Keep safe. Good flights.
Wow Silvio, great to hear you're kicking covid's ass. I hope the video helps your friend.
@@MrD good news. I won. I am cured. Now recovery time. Lungs were affected hard. But the Covid ass was destroyed. Yeahhh
How do you flash a Tandem TD18 or Tandem TD10 reciever since it's both 2.4 and 900
The same way as you flash the ACCESS receivers. OTA would be the first method to try. Or cable if that fails.
The TANDEM receivers’ firmware includes all that’s needed. You don’t flash the different frequencies separately.
Thanks again Mr. D, as always excellent information!
Thanks Bobby. That's great to hear. Have a nice day :)
I have FrSky X18S with a R9 SX access receiver. I’ve been watching videos and I’ve managed to register and bind the receiver. I’ve been attempting to set up a model and gone through the steps, but I don’t get any reaction or movement to any servos. Any help would be nice. Thanks
Unfortunately, CZcams comments is not a great place to try and diagnose problems like this. I’d recommend asking on one of the FrSKY Facebook groups, or the ETHOS Discord. It could be that you just haven’t set up the outputs. But it’s easier to try and understand in those places.
Quick question, when updating an Archer receiver OTA, does it have to be registered first? Or can you pull a receiver out of the package and do an OTA update without needing to go through the registration process?
Hi Darren, thank you so much, new user and you helped me a lot!! Do you know the type of the white connector used on top? I have a 6 pin on top of my TDR6 receiver and unfortunately I damaged it. It is indeed really easy to nick it :(. I did google search, asked in the official FRSky facebook group, but no definite answer. There are so many types that look alike but just a little different. Again, thank you: without these videos it would be very hard. Much appreciated.
Hi Darren. Not sure if you can help. My x20s firmware is updated via ethos suite and I,m trying to flash a rx8pro to accst v1 but when I get to selecting the update on the sd card in the tx it only shows copy,move delete with no flash options, same on my early taranis x9.Do i Need to update the internal module to make this work? Very confused, cheers peter
ACCST v1 will not work with the X20. You need to be on the latest version of the ACCST v2 protocol. The receiver will need to be connected to the transmitter with the SmartPort cable to do the update. Note, the cable order is not the same as flashing with the X9D through the JR bay.
I'm trying to change the ID on the FLVS ADV sensor and no one has shown how to do this with the FreeLink app.
HI Thank you for the video I'm new to Fr Sky and im trying to flash a R8 Pro with a Taranis x9D+2019, ive had this radio a while but never managed to get it to work, the Error "firmware update error device not responding" comes up when i try to flash it using the pins art the back through the smart port or Subus. Would really appreciate your help as I'm totally stuck.
Be careful when using the pins on the back of the radio. They are in a different order to a regular SPORT socket (czcams.com/video/9tncdNDinFM/video.html). In the manual, it looks like the X9D Plus 2019 has an SPORT socket inside the battery bay. So it may be worth trying that (www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Manual/X9DP2019/X9D%20Plus%202019%20X9D%20Plus%20SE%202019%20-Manual.pdf). Though in the manual there is no reference to the pin order. I would imagine it is a normal SPORT/servo order. But worth checking with a multimeter first.
On the R8Pro its self. You need to use the white connector, next to the antennae. Using the SmartPort, power, and ground wires.
Let me know how you get on.
@@MrD Thanks for replying, I checked out the smart port in the battery bay, but it's not outputting anything.Maybe it needs turning on in the menu?
I gave up and ordered a few more Futaba receivers for my Sg14. One of these days I'll make the Taranis system work as more than a sim Transmitter.
The output in the JR bay should definitely work. But just make sure the wire order is correct. Occasionally, the receivers take a couple of attempts to flash them.
On the x18 do you make a firmware folder in the internal storage?
You can use the internal NAND storage (not the flash), or the SD card.
HELLO! Darren having garbage time getting om with my mini R9 and Hobby wing Xrotor F7 Micro FC (quad)
Going on the record and saying all Firmware has tp migrate to ETHOS Suite. ONE PLACE ALL DAY SORRY IM SCREAMING!
CHEERS! On A Positive note I did just Flash the most recent firmware for the mini R9. I am miffed however as there are mot different files for FPORT VERS SBUS?? hmm
moving on.
Thanks for your hard work!!
On the older receiver there are 2 different firmwares for FPort and SBUS. However, with the new receivers. Switching between SBUS and FPort is just an option on the receiver. So much easier. The issue is that the old receivers were really made for ACCST, not ACCESS. Where there were no OTA options.
Hi Darren, I have been trying to update a rx8r, to fcc. copying the download from frsky it saves as a compressed a Adope Acrobat file which I can,t open on the computer but have put in the firmware file on the transmitter and it just shows the file size and last modification date,I’m obviously doing something wrong put computers arn,t my strong point,any advice cheers peter
Hi Peter. It sounds like you're possibly downloading the manual, which is an Acrobat file. This link will take you to the firmware. www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Firmware/ACCST-2.1.x/FW-RX8R-v2.1.0.zip
In there you will find the RX9R_ACCST_2.1.0_FCC.frk file that you need to update the receiver. This is for the latest ACCST v2. If you're still on ACCST v1, use this link www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/Downloads/Firmware/RX8R/FW-RX8R-170224.zip
Hi . I have noticed that my new td r10 does not have an eu/lbt option for firmware? i thought 900 was fcc only and uk was 868mhz? dose the td range of rx only have 1 firmware type? and if so how is the antenna length correct for both?
lots of questions but i think im missing something. i havent put it on my new x20 pro yet to try it but seems odd, any information you can share would be interesting
Tandem and ACCESS in general get the region automatically from the transmitter module. When you buy your receiver. It will have the appropriate receiver for the region. FCC is 915MHz and LBT is 868MHz. If you buy a receiver in the UK. The antenna will be correct for 868MHz.
Thats great information. My rx was brought in from china so assume 900hz antenna. Will that make the rx a problem to use in uk at 868mhz. I fly fixed wing and only line of sight. Assume 2.4 is still same as module will select eu lbt if i understand you correctly
I’ve recently purchased an X20S and a bunch of different Archer receivers. Although each receiver came with an S.Port cable none of them were fitted with a servo connector - just bare wires. Two thoughts: 1) could be to save money 2) most likely, it’s because the pin order can vary depending on where you plug it in, so they are making the user fit the plug, so it is there mistake if they get it wrong.
It depends on the receiver you buy. Some are very small. So not having the pins installed gives you the option to direct solder to the receiver to take up less space in the model.
@@MrD Not in my case, they were all Archer. Various different ones ranging from tiny R4 to large SR8 Pro. All have the S.Port cable but none have a servo plug fitted, just bare wires.
My mistake, looked again and there are two cables, one does have a servo plug the other one is just doesn’t.
Could you post a video on setting up dual elavator and matching the servos in ethos please.
It's actually pretty simple and there are a few ways you can do this. Either use a Y cable and plug them both into the same port on the receiver. Or, when you set up a new model, select "2 channels" under the elevator option and you will now have two separate channels. You can also get into some more advanced mixing and use them as "tailerons" if you'd like which I think Darren might already have a video on.
Hello Mr.D, i have an question. I'am using butterfly but can't get an curve (5pt) on the movement of the elevator. Do you have an solution?
For elevator compensation? You wouldn’t put the curve on the elevator. You would make a free mix using the same source as the butterfly, and output it to the elevator channel. You can then add the curve to that free mix, as well as set the weight.
I have the SR10Pro. I require more than 10 channels. If I'm seeing correctly, channels 9 and 10 are reserved .Channel 9 is for gyro gain. And channel 10 is for flight modes. This makes these two channels unusable because they are reserved. Am I able to "expand" on channel availability by adding another receiver?
thanks
You can get access to channels 9 and 10. I’ll have this in an upcoming video. But basically it’s in the receiver options (click the receiver name, near the bind button). But, if you want more than 10, you may need to use something like an SBUS breakout board. That can be set to give you channels 9 to 16.
Thanks!
You’re welcome 👍🏻
Good Morning. Just received my X20S. Thanks to your videos I was able to perform all software updates on the tx. and five receivers. I'm doing my best to answer my own questions through experimentation and research. But ,from time t time, I need to ask an expert. So. What voltage setting needs to be adjusted to the transmitter battery ? What should the display show as far as the correct battery voltage ?
Awesome Frank, hope you’re happy with the radio. As far as the battery goes, all I did was use a multimeter to check the LiPo voltage. I compared this with the pack voltage in System > Battery. I just corrected that to the value on the multimeter, erring on the side of caution. Other than that, it’s as it came.
Love the T-shirt! Y'all listen to ZZTop way over there? (Writing this from Texas, USA - home of ZZTop).
Getting back on-topic: I used to be a FrSky fan, but their ecosystem is such a mess now. I'm really thinking ExpressLRS is the future.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks, ZZ Top are awesome. It was sad to hear of the passing of Dusty Hill. I'm grateful I saw them live when I had the chance.
As for FrSky's ecosystem. I kind of disagree. It was getting quite messy. But, I think recently it's become a lot more straightforward. If you can, use ACCESS. If not, use ACCST v2. That way you always just download the latest firmware and there are no dramas.
I know a lot of people will probably disagree with me here. But I'm not a fan of ExpressLRS at the moment. Firstly, it does have great packet consistency, which is awesome. Consistency is more important than latency in my view. But the latency on ELRS is good also.
However, it is far to limited in what you can do with it. Only having 4 full resolution channels is a no deal from me straight away on a lot of models. Instantly that means no smooth pan and tilt or no variable flaps/crow if you want them. The channels that are on offer are also limited in positions. I could probably just about get away with using, but I still feel like I could be held back. Especially when there is also only 12 channels. This already limits me on some Crossfire builds. However, you remove those aspects, and the performance would be no better than R9 ACCESS, Crossfire, Tracer, or Ghost; depending on the frequency used.
I may try it on 2.4GHz one day. But it would be limited to small or basic models. I don't really see me using it on 900MHz. R9 and Crossfire are more than enough on that already. And if more range is what is wanted, I feel stepping to 433MHz with something like DragonLink would be the better way to go.
Interesting! I admit that I have not actually used ELRS yet. I just really dislike how each vendor is trying to lock customers into their particular ecosystem, and things like FrSky preventing Radiomaster from selling D16 compatible receivers - so I really like the idea of a vendor-neutral control link. The docs for ELRSv2.0 (which I don't believe is available yet) refer to a "widehybrid" mode which provides 6 or 7 bit resolution for all of the aux channels. Still only 12 channels. 6/7-bit resolution is quite a bit lower than 10-bit, and might not be smooth enough for camera control, but would probably be more than adequate for flaps. Personally, I've never had a problem with 50Hz refresh rate, so these "low latency" 250 or 500 Hz rates aren't of much value to me. It seems possible that they could implement a "50Hz, high resolution on all channels" mode. We'll see.
To be fair, isn't that what all manufacturers who develop their own products do? You won't find Sony making an XBOX controller. The RadioMaster thing I hear a lot. But at the end of the day, they are trying to sell a cloned receiver. I personally think they've got away with some things pretty well already. The TX16S is basically the sister radio to the Jumper T16. The original T16 was a clone of the Horus X10. You could use the X10 firmware on the T16. So I can understand it when a company takes exception to getting ripped off. Though FrSky weren't 100% innocent in the past. The X9D had a clone JR case and was based internally on another radio. Can't remember the name of it now. If those companies had taken exception with FrSky, I would have understood too. But also, FrSky have put a lot back in to the hobby, most notably with OpenTX development in the past.
I'm of two minds with the open source control link. My problem isn't necessarily the firmware side. But, the hardware could be made by anybody, to varying levels of quality. I guess this will come out in the reviews. I have looked a bit more in to ELRS, and it does seem like they are open to having a higher latency version in the future, with more full resolution channels. The other thing that I did see is that the ELRS systems aren't completely compliant with regulatory domain frequencies. LBT is the closest, but none are 100%. I know some people don't care about the legality. But, I'm more concerned about other frequencies being interfered with. Maybe this is also something that will be addressed in the future. I'm open minded. I actually have a 2.4GHz set on the way, as I need to test with it. But I think that this won't be for me yet. Maybe in the future.
Thanks for the prompt reply. I have tried transferring the one you recommended and it is showing on the SD card but when I open it ,it only shows copy,move,delete.do I have to have the receiver plugged in before it gives me a flash option? Cheers peter
Yes. You either need the receiver connected via cable. Or the receiver and RF module powered on (and receiver registered to the transmitter), if you’re performing an over-the-air update.
Good morning Darren, have you had time yet to do a setup for Tandem TD 6R yet? Really enjoy and understand your instruction!!
which receivers are compatible with the x20 is futaba compatible or any other receivers ???. i have many receivers that are not access so i would hate to throw them out and have to buy more new one . and if they can be used what would the setting be in the radio ???
Any FrSky ACCESS or ACCST D16 (flashed with the latest version of ACCST) receivers are natively supported. You can also use FrSky D8 and LR12 receivers with an external XJT module.
First of all thank you for the great work you are doing here! I recently got my X18S and setup everything thanks to your videos.
I was not able to do one thing - flash the FAS40 ADV current sensor with the current firmware. I was wondering if I should have it connected to the S.Port of the receiver (GR8) or to the transmitter S.Port directly? Do I have to power it externally? I cannot see in Ethos any place where the TX S.Port is accessed. I understand that when selecting the firmware file in the file manager it should allow me to flash through S.Port but it doesn't give this option. I think a video about using the S.Port of the TX would be generally interesting, to know what it can be used for.
nice video..
how about Bluetooth connection of head tracker and frsky x20?
(head tracker using BLE33 Arduino)
What is the pinout out order of the x20s smartport in the back on top in order from the notch on the side? Thanks
The notch is the signal.
I downloaded the firmware for my X8R to the SD card. I setup to install the new firmware with the special jumper, I go to the FIRMWARE folder, select the desired firmware. The only option I get is DELETE. I don't get the selections to install firmware. What am I doing wrong?😫
Have you connected the receiver to the transmitter? What transmitter are you using?
When you flash a new receiver do you have to flash all the updates or just the current??
Just the current update is fine.
@@MrD Thanks for the reply..
When you’re flashing the rx ota does it have to be bound to the radio or it doesn’t have to be bound to radio just apply the power? Thank you much. Your video is very informative.
Glad the videos are helping. The receivers don’t need to be bound. But they should be registered.
69th like. Nice. R8 Pro flashed on the plug in wire just fine. R10 said data refused.... gonna try it OTA. No idea. Same exact firmware. Edit, nevermind bad cable came with the R10Pro I guess. OTA woulda worked too. Keep making the awesome vids man!
Thanks Scott. Yeah, OTA would work with both of those receivers once they’re registered with the transmitter.
hey friend. do you have any video how to switch from mode 2 to mode 1? can you tell me how do i do that? thanks
How did you copy teh firware to the X10s radio ?
hello Mr.D i just buy X20 but 2.4Ghz ARCHER SR6 receiver's drop range to 0db in 30 steps in range check please help
If this is with range check on, it sounds about normal. I found that my X20S has about half the distance of my X10S Express in range check mode. But in normal operation, there was no problem at all.
How about x8r receiver update?
Take a cable from the S.Port socket on the receiver to the S.Port socket on the transmitter. Then use the cable update method.
Is there a way to check what firmware version that is on your access receivers?
Yes. On ETHOS go to the System menu and choose Info. It will appear down the bottom.
On OpenTX go to the System menu and the Version page. Click Modules / RX Version.
Hi Darren, one more question if I may. Do you know what type of connector goes into the port of the R8 Pro where the AIN2 and F.Port connects in the front? It has a 0.8mm pin pitch, which is the same as a JST-SUR, but the housing does not seem to match.
Dammit! I totally forgot you did this video. I struggled big time with a few setup issues just last week when setting up one of these. I got them figured out but your video of course addresses every one of them LOL. Oh well, next time I set one of these up I will NOT forget this video. Also, do you laser cut the wooden test planes? Would love one of these in a Jet shape with flaps etc to play with setups. I think one with dual rudders and elevators to mess with advanced control surface setups would be awesome, you sell these?
Thanks, I’m glad the videos are helpful.
I don’t make those little planes. My laser is out of commission at the moment too, as it needs a new CO2 tube.
@@MrD Any idea who makes them. I saw your logo on it and assumed you made them.
I did make that one. But I don’t mass produce them or anything like that.
Hi Mr.D is it possible to flash firmware on an archer gr6 receiver which has ACCESS firmware to another firmware that is ACCST? My radio is a Taranis X9D+ with ACCST... Or maybe flash my radio firmware to make it ACCESS compatible? In other works, is there anything I can do to make my radio work with the Archer GR6?
I would really appreciate your answer. Thank you kindly.
No, you can’t flash ACCST to the Archer GR6. But the new ArcherPlus GR6 will work with ACCST.
Thank you kindly MrD@@MrD
I can't get this ESC to calibrate, when I plug the battery in with inav slider on full throttle nothing happens, I just keep getting the no signal beep. I've tried using my controller as well, same thing acting like it's not getting a signal. There are two sets of wires coming out of the ESC, one has 2 wires red and black, the other has 3 wires regular servo connector. I'm confused on which one is the signal wire but I tried both of them anyways and still did not have any luck I'm almost to the point of just buying a different ESC, this is the last thing holding the build back from starting testing.
There should be a servo connector with a red, black, and white wire. The black wire is the ground, the white wire is the signal. Don't use the red wire.
@@MrD so I guess I have to modify the wire to be able to connect it to an F405wing ?
Duh I can switch the pins, I'm not used to the servo connectors I come from quadcopters. Lol
@@jhughes2286I tend to direct solder them. You can remove the red wire, tape it up, then move one of the other wires if you want to use the connector.
@@MrD so I switched the pins, the signal is going to the flight controller, I thought I calibrated the ESC the motor does work now outside of inav, but I can tell it's not calibrated because it only goes up to about 45% then stays there even if I go to 100 throttle, but the servos do not work.
Darren, i have been studying and following along with your videos and they've been great. I finally actually tried to get an airplane ready to fly with my x20s and have hit a wall; a glider with a gr8 installed that has worked fine with my taranis/opentx and i thought i was ready to switch over to the x20s. Everything registered and bound and i have telemetry, altitude and cel voltage, but no pwm output. Outputs page on tx shows everything moving and i never unhooked servo plugs but nothing moves!
Ethos 1.0.17
internal FCC 2.1.15
gr8 access v2.1.8
Thanks for any ideas,
SteveB
Hey Steve. That sounds really strange, especially having telemetry, as that is showing the bind is ok. I think I have a GR receiver somewhere. Probably the GR6. I'll take a look and see if there are any options on the receiver that might cause issues. But if it was working before, I can't see why it wouldn't now. Especially if it's just been re-registered and bound to a different transmitter.
@@MrD
OK, Figured it out. I had to assign channels to pins. Don't really know why since i tried binding to an R10 and it worked without that but perhaps i somehow "un-assigned" them. Anyway thanks for the great videos; big help to those of us who decided to take the plunge into Ethos.
SteveB
That sounds pretty strange. They are usually defined by default. Also, they must have been defined when you flew with it. Glad its sorted though. Have some great flights 🙂
Hello thanks for your video . I have a radiomaster TX16S and i am running accst V1 with a frsky G-RX6 do you think i can or should go for accst V2? thanks for your help
Thanks Mal. Yes, you can use ACCST v2. You just need to select the FRSKY X2 protocol when you bind. Should you is up to you. Personally I would. It's worth it when you compare the time to perform the update, to the peace of mind that a pretty big bug has been fixed.
@@MrD thanks a lot for your help i am going to try with an unused yet receiver (G-RX8) thanks again
You should have no problem at all with that one. I have a G-RX8 running on ACCST v2 and it works perfectly. If you’ve not used that receiver before, just be mindful when you bind it. By default, pin 8 is set to SBUS OUT. If you want to use Ch7 and/or 8 for servos or a motor, you need to jumper the signal pins for Ch 1 & 2 while you bind.
@@MrD hello everything went fine both of my receivers are now with accst V2 thanks a lot
Will you do a video please on using Tandem x20s and registering a R-XSR receiver and then binding it and also making sure its in right mode. I would assume that the I-flight Nazgul5 v2 digital that i bought with the R-XSR fcc receiver uses s.bus mode and also uses access on Transmitter internal module. But when i click register, then hold f/s button down then power quad up it does absolutely nothing and i feel like blowing through my front door full sprint right now. lol . Frustrating shit and no videos.
To be honest, if you have the ACCESS firmware on the R-XSR, it should just register and bind like any other ACCESS receiver. It sounds like you are doing the procedure correctly. So are you 100% sure it has the ACCESS firmware on it? If not, it would be worth flashing it with ACCESS to be sure. If you’ve not flashed it, it probably has ACCST v2.x firmware installed. You could always try binding as ACCST. If that works, it’s 100% firmware.
I use an R-XSR on my demo flight controller. Because of the nature of what I use it for, I’ve registered and bound it quite a few times. There was nothing special going on. It was just flashed with the ACCESS firmware, then registered (failsafe button held when powered on), and bound (just a power cycle). I have it set up using SBUS and SmartPort.
I guess by mode, you’re meaning SBUS or F.Port? With ACCESS, that’s a receiver option that you can set after you’ve bound. With ACCST it is different firmwares. To find out, you should be able to find out the protocol in the flight controller configurator. iNav it will be on the receiver page.
Let me know how you get on with the firmware.
Have you managed to figure out an elevon mix in ethos yet?
You just create a airplane model in the wizard with no tail.
@@MrD thanks Darren, will check, i knew it would be a simple thing ;)
You’re welcome
Can tx16s bind yo sr10+ or td sr12?
You definitely can’t bind any TD receivers with RadioMaster. They only work with genuine FrSKY Tandem transmitters. As far as I know, the SR10+ doesn’t bind either.
Have you heard about erskytx? Would thus support the td version?
@@leonguyen120 it’s the wrong hardware. TX16S just uses a multi protocol module. It doesn’t have the capability for Tandem. Only FrSKY tandem specific transmitters do.
Micro receivers?.
Just connect up the S.Port, power, and ground. The only exception would be the XM+.
@@MrD Any other makes for micro receivers.
Forgot to say it’s accst
I don't know if I made some mistakes but after updating my Taranis X9D to firmware 2.1.0 I'm not able anymore to set internal module to D8. I can reduce channels range to 8 for having lower latency but the only mode I actually can select for my internal XJT are D16 and LR12. Any hint? thank you
Did you also update OpenTX? If so, did you enable the EU option? If you did, just turn it off and re-flash OpenTX. That’s the part that hides D8, not flashing the RF module firmware.