Ep100: Emancipated Passion of Kaula Tantra - Ian Baker
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In this episode I am once again joined by Dr Ian A. Baker, international fellow of the Explorers Club and the Royal Geographic Society, author of 7 books, and an initiate of Buddhist, Taoist, and Hindu Tantric lineages.
In this interview Ian recounts a life-changing encounter with a Shakta tantric Siddha in Nepal, who healed Ian of severe climbing injuries and initiated him into the Kaula Tantric order. Ian compares the hitherto secret practices of this sect - such as pranayama, asana, and kundalini techniques - with their Tibetan Tantric equivalents.
Ian reveals the surprising reactions of his Tibetan teachers to his initiations into Kaula Tantra, including Chatral Rinpoche and Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche, and shares a drinking practice taught to him by his Kaula guru.
Ian also discusses Himalayan Beyul, the thin places of the Scottish Highlands, and how a trip to the Isle of Skye brought him into living contact with local Faerie lore.
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Topics include:
00:00 - Intro
01:02 - Recent research into esoteric Burmese spiritual elixirs and the Soma tradition
09:55. Exploring the thin places of the Scottish Highlands
15:15 - Encountering the human the faerie tradition of the Isle of Skye
18:21 - Psychoactive substances in Buddhism
22:32 - Tantric Buddhism in Burma
28:38 - Ian on Mike Crowley’s book ’The Secret Drugs of Buddhism’
34:12 - Initial interest in Kaula Tantra
39:59 - Padmasambhava and the Nyingma Sects of Tibetan Buddhism
41:41 - Love vs renunciation and the Indian roots of Tibetan Tantra
47:18 - Emancipated passion, Yab Yum, and Maithuna
52:14 - Touring the sacred Shakta sites of Kamakya, Assam with Sakya Trinzin
59:29 - Ian’s first Kaula Tantric initiation
1:03:05 - Meeting a Shakta master and experiencing Siddhis (paranormal powers)
1:05:06 - Extensive physical healing by the Shakta master after Ian’s climbing accident
1:16:05 - Ian’s second Kaula Tantric initiation and Maithuna practice
1:20:11 - Tulku Urgyen and Chatral Rinpoche’s responses to his Kaula experiences
1:23:50 - Ian demonstrates a pranayama drinking practice
1:29:58 - Criticisms of mulabhanda and visualisation practice
1:35:08 - Comparison of Shakta and Tibetan pranayama practices
1:37:46 - Integration of Sahaja and the core practices of Dzogchen
1:41:32 - Comparison of approaches to the pelvic floor in the esoteric traditions
1:49:04 - Female masters and the overlooked roots of Tantric practice
1:52:14 - Ian recommends some recent scholarship
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To find out more about Dr Ian A Baker, visit:
- www.ianbaker.com/
For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- www.guruviking.com
Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James - Zábava
His Knowledge and experience is stunning. I practiced 12 years with a siddha kundalini master who introduced us to Kashmir Shaivism and then after his death went to Bhutan and ordained in Tibetan tradition. Unusual to find someone so knowledge and experienced with all traditions. More please!
Whats the change you get after doing practice for 12 years,
Is there worth doing it,
Or just hope keep it going on and on.
The 2 interviews you have with Ian are stunning. His books and material on youtube are amazing, but you lead him to talk in depth about things he hasn't publicly before.
I would love to hear more about his experiences with Chatral Rinpoche, as there is very little out there about him for such a giant of a teacher and practitioner.
It is a sheer delight to listen to Mr. Baker expound upon various topics that Mr. Viking cleverly asks. I’ve gleaned a lot from these 2 interviews on what is a relatively new subject for me that I’ve gathered can be a difficult topic to research (and is in my limited experience). Bravo! …and standing O…(pun not intended :)
22:26 We are not liberated within a state of renunciation but we are liberated within a state of engagement and expansion.
Wah! We only need the songs of spiritual realisation of the 84 Mahasiddhas. Interesting.
So fascinating!
1:41:40 I am curious about uhmmm much of that. I think we all are. 😁
Would absolutely love a third interview.
He lit up when speaking about the Kaula and his experience. Excellent talk!
I always enjoy hearing Ian speak. Thanks for having him on again
Thanks for checking it out :-)
Wonderful interview!
as someone interested in both of the main traditions discussed here, this was just incredible and answered/reinforced so many little hunches and questions i’ve had for awhile and…it was also just awesome! looking forward to a third installment!
I appreciate the ability to have access to someone who is able to elucidate teachings so aptly
WOW. another episode that makes me want to shout: i want more! 🙂
thank you for this wonderful interview with Ian baker(!)
Thank you, Tal!
Man, these interviews are incredible.. So dense in interesting Information, filling in the knowledge gaps I didn't even know I had in the first place. If it was a 10h video I would watch it with just as much interest
This is a fantastic series. I was trying to think where I had seen Ian Baker before, and then it came to me, the movie Decrypting the Dakini Code. So great to find out more about him.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Incredible dharma journeys!
Great comparison of Kaula Tantra and Vajrayana.
I love you guys, thanks
Thank you.
Really wonderful interview 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Bring on the third discussion !
Hello Ian, I'm a student of Lama Tharchin Rinpoche and Lopon Rinpoche (Chatral Sangye Dorje's student). I read Heart of the World many years ago. You're discussing some of my core questions here, in the Indian tantric roots and Shaivism and Kaula Tantra - Hard to find!
What you shared about Kaula tantra's idea of doing "internal" mantra, jives with some things I've suspected for quite sometime.
🙏🌈🌎wonderful…
Thank you Guru Viking. Always good to see you Ian. I hope we can catch up soon.
Precious information. Thank you for clarifying.
Fantastic. I’d love to hear next time what he’s writing and working on at the moment and when it will be released. I think he teases another book in his last release. Thanks again.
I am looking forward to another episode with Ian.
Looooove these
Wish we could learn all the details Guru Viking is digging into - the how, why and what Ian learned
Hi Gigi, there are even more details of Dr Ian's life and spiritual training in our previous interview here: czcams.com/video/csI01ksmUXw/video.html
Yes I’ve seen that one :)
Great episode! Thank you!
Guru Viking (or anyone who knows)- at the end 1:53:20 where Ian mentions female scholars, I got Miranda Shaw, but not the other 2 names. Would you be able to list them?
Hi Gigi, Adele Tomlin (who I have interviewed here: czcams.com/video/Q0LxCMPmxss/video.html) and Ulrich Timme Kragh.
@@GuruViking thank you 🙏
Excelent! very interesting, would really like to hear more about his experiences in Kaula Tantra. Thank you very much for this interview.
Great inspiring talk
Do you think we are in a Buddhist Kali Yuga?
With monastic monks on meth, high lamas going to live sex assault/ abuse...?
While working building a monastery, Milarepa's song, "beware of worldly monks attached to monasteries ! " I wondered if money would corrupt the Dharma like it does nearly everything . the answer is
resounding yes it has.
Not completely but profoundly. Karma Zangpo
My years of research point to migrations of women from Ethiopia to India. These women brought the teachings of the WSR(Osiris) traditions of Africa. All written texts were actually transcribed by studying pre-literate shamanic groups who could neither read nor write. Their spirituality was very similar to The Dreaming culture of australian aborigines. Literacy actually makes it more difficult to "see" the concepts with your right brain since you default to left brain once you become literate.
1:22:36, 1:32:28 Thanks :-) Pls write the full name of the Polish writer Ulrik 1:53:20
"hydraulic in its limitations" lol quite the turn of phrase
💕🙏💕😇💕😇💕🙏💕👼
Is there an ingredient being bleeped or censored at 19:00 ?
It was a Zoom glitch. The full quote I read from Dr Baker's book 'Heart of the World' is:
'Over the past year, my study of alchemical elixirs in the Tibetan Tantras had brought exotic substances into my kitchen larder. Concoctions of lotus seeds and wild honey, sautéed caterpillar fungus (Cordyceps sinensis), Indian snake-root (Rauwolfia serpentina), and preparations made from purified mercury, silver, and gold became a regular part of my and Hamid’s diet.'
@@GuruViking ha ha I know. I was only joking but thanks 🙏
cool funny great guy. Anybody jealous?
I ask Dr. Baker; why did your South Indian Tantric teacher tell you that the Tibetan Lama's could not teach you tantra? Can you be more specific?
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You really beat up a lot on the Tibetan "bias toward renunciation," but it's only when that renunciation of attachment to unrealistic objects has been achieved that one is actually able to experience the bliss that transcends ordinary desire. Without it, you just have a whole bunch of ordinary samsaric suffering. So that's why first having trained as a renunciate--at least in the mind if not as a monastic--is seen as a requirement of tantric practice in Buddhism. But you know that, Ian. So do a better job distilling your point for next time.