2023 K1600B OFFICIAL REVIEW VIDEO - BEST NEW BAGGER?
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- In this video, we give a full ride and review of the brand new K1600 B motorcycle. We talk about how this bike stacks up against the Honda Goldwing, as well as other "bagger" motorcycles in its class. The results might surprise you!
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I traded a 2020 1250 RT for a 2022 K 1600 B and I love it. On both motorcycles I got rid of the hard Metzler tires that come stock and contribute to highway speed instability. I replaced them with Michelin GT Road 5, and Michelin GT Road 6's, respectively. Both bikes rode and performed SIGNIFICANTLY better. The instability was instantly GONE, I ride at 75-85 mph all the time, with 42 psi, and the bike feels like an IMPROVED motorcycle. The Michelins absorb smaller road irregularities much better, allowing a more continuous, and smooth ride on the bike, and more trusted cornering. My Audi and my wife's Caddy XT 5 run Michelin tires. They absolutely ROCK!!!
Yes, I endorse this. You have identified the issue spot on. It's the tires that are the dynamic. I, too, have had the bagger, and on my 3rd change of tires, I was advised by a tire dealer to shift.. and the change made it a whole new bike ride. In fact, the bagger comes into its full form with the tires change. 👍🏻
Hi, I own a 2019 k1600b for 3 years now and I can confirm you that this the most fantastic bike I've ever drove. The weaving problem is real, but it happens only when you're in the 'cruise' suspension mode, which is too soft for speeds above 60 kmh. I never use it and have never problem. Crazy sound engine, absolute confort, nimble like a bike, best motorbike ever. Cheers from Lille, France.
That is great to know about the suspension modes!
He is right. Never happens for me in road esa mode. Also I put on the larger screen which stops the 'vortex' rear wind effect.
Bike seems really nice, one suggestion maybe in the future do a good walk around video so we can see the bike for a minute before the on board video rolls..
Keep up the great work!😎👍🏼👍🏼
That’s a great recommendation!
If not mistaken, BMW has a Warranty and Road Coverage that is impeccable! Help is just one call away!
I’ve used it and can attest to that!
@Ride Motos - That was an effective placement of the sponsor's URL. I hit pause and browsed through their inventory after seeing it . I'm not buying anything because my 20 year old FZ1 is still peforming well, but I'm always looking around.
The review was great, and the feedback is great as well. I just bought mine, but delivery is not until next month. I got this because all my other bikes gas mileage dives after 80 mph. Not that I want to go over 100 for ling periods, but If I am upwards of 80 I would like to maintain some mileage. My RT was great, but the engine buzzes and I got harmonic pitches at around 70. The gas mileage dives, especially between LA and LV. I like that big smooth engine on a big bike. If it goes well I will but an exhaust and a tune on it. If not, right back to the RT.
I think the "weave" is an aerodynamic problem. After all, from the seat forward, the bike is identical to the GT and GTL models which don't have the issue.
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Considering this bike, but today I have a 2015 R1200RT, where I have owned three of these RT’s. I love the boxer engine and the low center of gravity. Great review on the Bagger.
Agreed, I love the RT platform!
Excellent review!! That is an awesome bike and the power really surprised me!
Thank you man!
I think that speakers on motorcycles are silly. BUT, I do get a kick out of playing classical music a-la Ride of the Valkyries when lane splitting bumper to bumper CA freeways, lol.
On my ‘22 ga I fixed the wiggles by changing the windshield , 7jrock my choice, added Aeroflow wings and winglets to add downforce on the front fairing and changed tires to Michelin GT6’s. all wiggles and stability issues 99.9% resolved. BMW could easily remove the speed restriction (105mph as set in the ecu programming)
That’s great to know! Still, a lot of work for something BMW should fix stock
Important takeaways are tires MUST be changed and on grand americas the windshield needs to be wider at the top and sides. The other changes mentioned are my search for perfection since I cruise around 90 or more most of the time. Ride hard in the twisties alit
I have a BMW 2023 R1250 GSA and a HD 2017 FatBoy S. If I ever buy another motorcycle, it will be this bike. Who knows? Thanks for the review.
Good review. I do believe that my 2021 Honda Goldwing is also a 6 cylinder bagger so making BMW the second 6 cylinder bagger on the market.
To comment on the harley bagger stability, I had a 2018 Road Glide Special and at 75+ mine felt unstable until I added a lower fairing and a different windshield, those two improved it but still felt a little unstable. Thanks for sharing this video!
Pro move! I completely agree that lower fairings seem to help a lot with high speed stability
@@joshmorrisofficial needless to say. I now have a 2023 k1600b, got to love 160hp out the door. Sick of throwing money into a bike for another 10 hp at every stage. Lol
@@CrayzJohnny have you noticed the wander and weave at highway speeds?
@@joshmorrisofficial yes I have, so it’s not just you. My road glide was so bad, the k1600b doesn’t bother me as much
@@CrayzJohnny good to know! Maybe we will ride together some day. Be sure to go check out our RideMotos CZcams channel and website!
I own a Victory Vision Premium. This would be a great upgrade. I am one of those who like to listen to my motorcycle speakers and would love an upgraded stereo. Rest Video⭐️🌟⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great review and thanks for mentioning the "wiggle at 70+ mph. Good to know. Saw the review for the Goldwing which is impressive but for all the plastic around it. Cost more then the BMW MSRP. Wish the bags on this bike were top loading. How often to the valves need to be adjusted on this bike if not done during warranty.....I guess the letters BMW would suggest very expensive... Definately will be looking at this bike and hope BMW fixes this on the 24 model.....Good start would be thr tires for sure!
In Australia, the Goldwing only comes with a DCT- the BMW still has manual shift - that alone makes me like the BMW.
I have a GSA - valve checks are way easier - boxer😉
I considered one of these a while back but also heard a lot about the instability/weaving issue. Seems a significant number of owners experience it. I read a number of anecdotal fixes but nothing concrete. What worked for some didn't work for others. Kinda turned me off to the bike. I've had other bikes that had a similar issue and it drove me crazy.
Don’t blame you at all! I’ve ridden the GTL and they are completely fine! Seems this problem is specific to the Bagger version
Road the K1600GA today, great motor and truly great bike.. Flash BMW (Could you please find some better colors, Manhattan is a dull green, and then Black) Horrid colors, how about putting the pearl white from the R18 onto the K1600, or maybe a really nice Blue from the GTL. Should have better colors!
I completely agree, I think as this bike gains traction in the bagger community, BMW will introduce more bold colors. Until then, I'd love to see some custom painted options!
Hi.. nice review.. which one would you prefer K1600 B vs Rocket 3 GT, in terms of ride, handling & performance, TIA
Where is the link to Irv Seaver? Video says thanks Irv Seaver and link to their website in the description below.
I have a 2022 K1600 GA. Currently adding Wunderlich top rack, bluetooth CB radio w/PTT connected to CARDO Edge system. With the top rack added I can mount flags, CB (NGP) antenna and rear GoPro. Also looking to add dual color LED strobes & Wig Wag all powered by external Lithium battery. CB is bluetooth and will also be connected to Lithium battery.
Recently added custom Russell Day Long (should have done this day one).
Other mods include Illium works flooboard and Akrapovic exhaust. Bike also paint corrected with Graphene coating.
My 2022 K1600B is a dream. But I have the Aeroflow windscreen and Aerowings and Dunlop Roadsmart 4 tires. Very stable at speed, except in big-rig wind wash but that’s normal.
I only wish it has normal Nav and Apple Play instead of the BMW app junk.
I wish there was a walk around of the bike.
I got so excited to ride it we forgot to film that part!
What are those speakers like when compared with the R18?
What up shout-out from Irvine! I recognize Jamboree rd. Watch out for those Irvine drivers😂😂😂
😂 guilty as charged.
had a 2015 gtl speakers sucked ...I wonder how much better these are...I feel that if I have a full face on I have a Sena 50 headset
Funny how we all think so differently.
My 2019 K16B was nice, but the worst bike ever in highway above 80 MPH, it created rear lift, shook tremendously while passing larger vehicles and it was NOT SAFE in my opinion. Went to a K1600GTL, much better bike, but now I am back to the R1250GSA, just a different animal. No more touring BMW for me.
Hey! I have several videos about my k1600GA especially K1600GA unstable no more!!! You will likely enjoy it!!! By the way I just subscribed
Nice video bro. Don’t hate those people with speakers 😂. How was your experience with Irv Seaver dealership?
Great video and review.
I wish I could get it with the standard GTL/GT bags...
Now that would be something!
My next bike. have to pay off the 21 road glide first :)
Perhaps mybe swapping the tires will help. I definitely need to test out this bike.
Different tires don't help. I've tried several brands.
Disagree the Michelin Road GT6 tires did help and stiffen suspension. Replaced tires at 200 miles. See my other response in other question about wobble should help
@@patpaxton981 I've run Michelins, Pirellis, Bridgestone's, Avon's, just about everything. Tires don't help. It's not a tire issue. It's a design issue.
Nice ultimate driving machine
Has Henry Ford changed his mind “You can any colour car you like as long as it’s black”……. What’s with all the white cars? 🤪🤪🤪🤪
저는 22년 m1000rr을 소유하고있습니다. 23년식 k1600b를 구입하려합니다. 하지만 아직 한국(south korea)엔 23년형이 출시가 않됬지만 당신의 리뷰가 많은 도움이 됬습니다. 혹시 22년식이랑 23년식이랑 차이점이 있나요?
I think a little different dash, and engine torque improve by about 10 ftlbs. I have had the GS and this k1600, and 1600 much smoother and crazy fast.
The wiggle is most likely from the floorboards, aero does strange things at higher speeds.
Sad because it’s one of the best features of the bike!
Mine dosn't have the optional floor boards and it still weaves in heavy winds or traffic.
@@m.f.m.67 the mystery continues. Is this a deal breaker for you, or something you can overcome?
I heard it was a bag issue...
Guys let me try to help. I have a new 2022 Grand America and 2023 Goldwing DCT Tour. The wobble issue in rough air or interstate full of trucks is real!! The real problem is the Tourpack. To greatly reduce the wobble I have done the following. I removed the tourpack with Leadbetter’s removal kit. The Bridgestone tires are garbage and I replaced them with Michelin Road GT6’s, went to Jurock windshield, and replaced the floorboards with Ilium engine guards and rotatable foot pegs. I have had many Harleys and the BMW floorboards suck in my opinion. This has greatly reduced the high speed wobble. It hates to be behind trucks on interstate. Some say the Wunderlich vented windshield helps a lot. This is clearly a aerodynamic problem. If you ride 2-up with someone blocking airflow over tourpack or put a piece of luggage to breakup air in front of tourpack definitely helps. All this being said this is the most exciting motorcycle I have ever owned or ridden. PERFORMANCE IS INCREDIBLE!! No bagger can touch it and I have had Harleys, new Indian Challenger. It is supremely comfortable. This is a heavy sport touring bike. I have the new Goldwing as it is the best long distance touring motorcycle for interstate touring undeniably. Though the performance isn’t even close to the other bike above fourth gear the BMW will walk away. Hope this helps.
nq speakers please, headphones only
if you buy one, make sure you have a dealer close by. trust me, I know. Fun bike, sexy looking, BUTTTTT if things start to go wrong, get your credit card ready, it will not be a fun time. Crazy complicated to work on, parts are expensive, at times, hard to get. Finicky electronics, sensors. You will need to a code reader/reset tool. had it for 2 years, no more. Never again. Maybe RT1250, one day....maybe. Now, new Goldwing. Like no other.
when you say there are other motorcycles you would consider to go across the country, which one's are you thinking of? Curious. Also, in terms of comfort, how does this compare to the 1250GS?
I have both bikes. R1250GSA and the Bagger. I rode coast to coast on the GSA. ITS so comfortable! It just sucks up the Miles , handling is superb, tremendous fuel range , tons of storage , and the suspension just sucks up the bumps.
I have a k1600 GA, 2023 Goldwing DCT Tour, 1250 RT, and 1250 2022 GS. If I was riding interstate long distance my choice would be Goldwing first, then 1250 RT, GS then Grand America. If I was long distance not on interstate would be Grand America, then GS then Goldwing then 1250 RT. If in mountains would be GS first, then R T, K1600 B, then Goldwing. Though the 1600 B and Goldwing could be reversed either are good in the mountains though the BMW’S are more nimble and easier to maneuver through the curves
@@patpaxton981 first, congrats on an awesome lineup of bikes! Second, thanks for sharing 🤙
@@patpaxton981 I’m surprised you put the GS ahead of the K1600 for cross-country preference. I would of guessed the bagger would be more comfortable.
@@beri232 I own both the GS and the 1600 and if I’m doing a7 day mountain trip GS wins hands down for me as it is extremely comfortable. If I’m cross country but I’m not on the interstate but state roads like a long ride from the Carolinas to the Keys then the 1600 is the bike I’m taking every time. If I’m cross country on the interstate then the 1600 is not pleasant at all in heavy truck traffic or crosswinds despite all the changes I’ve made so the Goldwing DCT Tour is what I’m riding and second would be my 2020 1250 RT. The 1600 is hands down the most exciting bike I have ever owned, is thrilling to ride but power must always be respected.
I want the galaxy paint job.
I am seriously considering this bike in the next few weeks. I am worried about the wandering and weaving at high speeds. How bad is it?
Replace the stock #$@!$# Metzler tires with Michelin GT Road 6 tires, problem solved. and motorcycle ride is SIGNIFICANTLY improved. Love my 22 K 1600 B!!!
I have had 2 of these a 2020 and then bought a new 2022 model last year. Midnight edition. Until I saw this video I didn’t even know about the wandering and I must admit I still don’t know what it is. Love my bike great at what it does. I live in the Uk and the roads are all like canyons and twisty except for the motorways. Did the North Coast 500 last year Which is a tour of the Scottish highlands. 2 up with luggage for 12 days. No problems at all. I’m 5’8 with a 29 inch in seam.
My advice is take one for a test ride. Get a feel for it. By the way most of my previous bikes have been Harley touring bikes and the BMW beats them hands down for me. But that being said it’s all subjective.
@@reddog8145 I did a video recently on my video library of testing a similar bike(GT) and was not pleased at all n
@@FLYANDRIDE15 I’ve never ridden the Gt but I did sit on one in the showroom. The whole set up was wrong for me. I found it very uncomfortable and turned down a test ride as a result. I had a 2018 R1200 RT which I bough new but found that after only 20 miles of any journey I had to get off and walk about. I found it that uncomfortable. My 2020 K1600b was like a breath of fresh air in comparison and I traded in the RT for it in 2021. Again I only sat on the bike but I knew instantly it was right for me. I got the 2022 model after a visit to my local dealer with my wife. She took an instant shine to it and asked me if I’d like it. In short she bought the bike for me after a really good trade in deal for my other K1600b.
I think the bike is great. Most of my riding is 2 up and the bike pulls like a train. I had the option of a new Street Glide, a bike I’ve had before, but in comparison the K1600b does everything I need a bike to do way better than the Harley. For once I chose with my head and not my heart. As you can appreciate touring bikes are expensive and my last 4 bike I’ve paid cash for brand new.
My advice would be not to judge the K1600b in the same light as the GT but have a test ride. I know I didn’t but I think if I’d taken the RT out I could have saved myself a lot of grief in the long run.
Good luck with everything.
@@darrylbrooks7175 I think your dead right about the tyres. I’ve never gotten on with Metzler tyres but wait until they need changing before I do swap them for something better.
Nice bike, nice review..
The price is similar to a Goldwing… Which bike do you prefer ?
Here in Australia, the Goldwing can only be bought with DCT. But, I can get this with a manual😉
Does this bike have the adaptive cruise control?
Nope, I saw It on Yamaha 900 tracer +
Part of M/C ownership is maintenance. The elephant in the room. Did you mention the huge cost of dealership maintenance on this thing. Valve adjustment alone will shock you to a point where you might not want it. Harley has zero cost hydraulic lifters. That's just scratching the service. Why don't you talk about that.
Those are all good points Gary! I hadn’t considered the long term maintenance costs of BMW.
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Do the basic maintenance yourself oil/shaft changes, brakes, brake/clutch fluid changes are all relatively simple. Valve checks are the price to pay for a high performance machine. Not to knock Harley's but their performance doesn't come anywhere near this bike.
Harley has only two cylinders to maintain, no cooling system and 60+ less horsepower...there's less tech that's why it's less to maintain.
I've heard £1200 for valve clearance! Best to get spark plugs done same time, they £25 each!
You rode both bikes. I have too. I pick a BMW. Your buying a Harley for it's name.
Says the guy on the Beamer! Lol 🥴
The lane splitting is idiotic. Enough drivers try to kill me every time I go riding, I do NOT need to make it easier for them.
The lane splitting is… legal, in California.
@@joshmorrisofficial it may be legal, but that doesn’t make it a smart move for safety.
BMW should be ashamed of the stereo! The wind noise is awful and the bags are stupid with their side openings. I love the bike but BMW needs to pull their heads out of their asses with 4 or 5 short comings. If they fix them, it would be the perfect bike.
Gold wing is the best, BMW 1600 has transmision problems,
What problems?
Wiggle wiggle.. that is a deal breaker. No thank you.
I totally understand!
I have an 18 model year B. I'd buy a new one if BMW would fix the high speed weave issue. They haven't so I won't. If BMW would fix it, they's sell a heck of a lot more of them.
@@m.f.m.67 is it so bad that you would switch bikes?
@@joshmorrisofficial I rode touring Harleys for years, but, as an old guy, the weight of those bikes was becoming an issue. At 750 lbs. the K1600 is noticeably lighter, plus the elec. reverse can save me some parking lot embarrassments! Honestly, it's a double-edged sword. On a winding two lane highway, the bike is a delight. Traveling down the interstate is pretty aggravating. Is everyone here aware that BMW put a 103 mph limiter on the GA due to the high-speed instability issue? Other than that "fix" BMW has chosen to ignore the problem. (Imagine, a $30,000 dollar motorcycle that can't outrun a Suzuki Burgman scooter!) It's bad enough that when someone else is riding along on their bike, they can see mine moving around. A touring bikes' most fundamental ability should be stability in a straight line. I think that makes it a failure as a touring bike.
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K 1600 B owners...scrap the #$%!@# Metzler tires for Michelin GT Road 6's...problem solved!!! Promise. I have 4700+ miles on my 22 B and I almost took it back to BMW due to the ride quality to either buy another 1250 RT or a DCT Goldwing. The Michelin tires changed my 'zero wobble' world. If I were a rich guy I'd buy a round of Michelin GT Road 6's...for everyone! Truly.
Wow! We haven’t heard of someone experiencing such drastic change with a tire swap. Very interesting
Watching you ride through traffic in between stopped cars makes me angry. I hate it when people do that.
Legal in California! Do you ride motorcycles?
@@joshmorrisofficial I do ride. I've also had a car mirror taken off by a guy doing that. It just seems unsafe and kind of inconsiderate, like cutting in line.
@@joshmorrisofficial I did like your review though. I'm on the fence about a new bike and this one seems really nice. Sort of an adventure/travel bike/muscle cruiser.
@@matthewpipoly it’s so important for us to have different opinions and still be able to have civil conversations. Much love! This bike is very very impressive if you don’t mind the price tag!
Just because lane splitting is legal doesn't mean its socially acceptable. You ride like an A-Hole and I pray that you don't end up on the wrong side of somebodies bad day.@@joshmorrisofficial
Lots of transmition problems,, and every thing is super, super, expensive,,, thank God, I did not buy it
Can't just do a review without trying to sell something. Getting so tired of this. Just give us the damn review.
Who’s selling this? We don’t sell motorcycles, just “review” them. Sorry it didn’t meet your standards 🤦😂