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@@BigSirSplash I thought me watching your content was enough well I'll never be able to get it since by law I cant have a credit card or debit card well it's been fun but I cant pay for that and my time as a follower should be enough and since it's not I'll unsub from you
Definitely the most confusing fight matchup that I’ve ever seen that was magnificent to hear about the concepts and stories being literally played with by characters that are supposedly in that story which feels fresh.
@@BigSirSplash Not gonna lie, reading some of the comment chains confuse the heck out of me. They're all talking about the scaling of True Yggdrasill and how it compares to the Overvoid??? Very tiring
No really this is even close if a person knows how to fight. supes has one big weakness, really 2. Kryptonite and the sun. So Thor can defeat Supes in 2 ways...one transport him to a sun that is yellow, and that weakens him dramatically, and second he commands the earth and has the power of teleportation...gather up those nice green works and defeat Supes. So no matter what power level thor is in, he can beat superman.
Man, the power rankings of both worlds (dc and marvel) are crazy confusing, and broken. You have characters that can left entire planets, characters the can control the multiverse or ARE the Multi-verse, and now characters that can literally control fiction and there and own Stories. Marvel and DC are probably one of, if not, the MOST broken franchises ever created by anyone.
Tbh, I never though of The Ones Who Sir Above In Shadow as story authors, but yeah....it makes a lot of sense. They feed off the stories of the Asgardians with all the Ragnaroks that go on during the issues.
@@yenxin7407 debunkled? as it says in the comic, The thought robot is "a sentinel suit designed for a single purpose, made to protect all existence against the ultimate enemy". if a character is not threatening existence CAS cant do anything to them
Everytime this match up happens, I feel like people might confuse a VS and "who's stronger". There's alot of instances where two characters who are different in strength, yet different In a VS against each other. In my interpretation is that if Thor were to invade DC, CAS would just adapt to overcome him... And I know that sounds like a simple explanation, and we all go home, but let's for 1 moment think of this.. Hear me out! let's sit down and remind ourselves that everything just a story capable of editing. All things fiction, is just the result of an actual human as the creator of that world. In that "world" the contents of which is experienced through pages, and text.. all things fiction fits in there. You can have infinite realms of infinite worlds, each worlds having infinite voids where ideals themselves lie into and you still won't reach reality (this realm) even from a dimensional and philosophical perspective, there is no transcendance above reality. the original comics of CAS were in 3D symbolizing the narrative being beyond comics. That's what CAS symbolizes. Beyond just comics. Before stories and narratives exists, they exist in the comic books... that's where we read them. Now the interesting and forgotten aspect people forget with CAS is that pannel where he was able to hear the reader breathing and feel the reader turning the pages, is letting the reader know that CAS is beyond just comics and let me finish before any of you down vote. Beyond all things fiction, at the end of the day, fiction isn't real, therefore capable of being changed (stay with me) Thor in my interpretation isn't above the page he's printed on and CAS's interpretation is intended to be what's before all stories, the physical pages themselves. Before you get Ragnarok, Yddrasil, Mjolnir, Odin, they exist as ideas and stories and experienced by the reader itself as pages in this case. The intended interpretation of CAS is to be above what's comics and real life, hence the original comic book being 3D hearing the reader breathe and feeling your own page turn is a feat in it if itself. It's symbolic that CAS is beyond just story itself, and that he's what's right before fiction and reality above all things. I feel like you can fit rune King Thor inside of a story that's contained within a comicbook. In that realm, it's infinite in size, with infinite worlds. Yet it's all just a story printed on a page where CAS is intended to be what's before all stories, by metaphorically (because it's physically impossible) closing the gap between fiction and reality as seen with him experiencing the reader itself if that makes sense..
Thor ended narratives and stories..hes beyond them as well. CAS did not understand whatever presence was observing him. He said that himself, which debunks the notion he even remotely scales to the reader lol. CAS power is only useful if creation is under threat, RKT isnt threatening creation
Forgot to add on, imagine you as an author created a story in which a character has the ability to do all things they wished to in all the infinite realms they've created.. Aren't you still more powerful than that character? I mean you can change the idea of that character. You're the author... I think that's where DC places CAS but kinda messed up by still making it a comic book involving an unnecessary and intense fight for comic sales.
@@shadowflare2255 CAS didnt author anything. Which page and issue did he do that? He survived a hyper narrative which was Mandrakks story, he didnt write anything at all so I legit have no clue why you implied/said that. CAS didnt beat Mandrakk, so he doesnt scale above him, at best absolute maybe you argue Mandrakk Level. Both are in stories even though they "transcend" stories so its kinda silly at that point. What I went off of is CAS stipulation for his amps, and who has shown literal narrative manip themselves on top of doing so offensively(RKT did so), and RKT idea is he embodies the concept of always finding another away even if defeat is inevitable. Their is always a way to win. He also sees all narratives even unwritten ones. He would see whatever CAS narrative will be.
@@BigSirSplash neither did RKT. You can't be the author of your own story as simple as that sounds, that's philosophically and literally Impossible... Rune King Thor didn't create himself. We as people creating him into a story, did. Fiction isn't above reality. Not to say cas is either, don't get me wrong, But his interpretation is intended to be what the reader themselves understand as what's before anything becomes a story is it not?
Also I never once stated CAS scales to the reader itself. That's literally impossible. Fiction by definition isn't real therefore can't ever scale into the real world. Ever.
@@BigSirSplash im not sure you realize this but CAS is a sealed version of PC Superman’s power. CAS and mandrakk were both below the overvoid because CAS is a sealed power. Unbound PC superman would scale to and above the overvoid. He would fodder RKT lol .
One of your greatest and controversial vids. That’s what I love about this channel you aren’t afraid to speak you’re opinion on certain things in fear of losing subs unlike some other CZcamsrs
Now that I think on it, why couldn't Lex Luthor cure his own cancer after gaining the powers and sight of Superman? (This was based in one of the movies where afterwards Superman went into the Sun to heal from being poisoned by his own power)
@@XxWhitewolfxX-go6tj Nah bruh this guy kinda over exaggerated rk Thor bruh he talks about how Thor transcend stories and narrative but that’s not even true if u read the comic there’s noting about these transcended stories bruh
@@XxWhitewolfxX-go6tj From what I see I thought he use stories as more like history and past present and such but he seems to say stuff transcended narrative stories witch never even happen in it bruh
I was under the impression that cosmic armor Superman was always going to be as strong as he needed to be didn’t this get wacked by null , ? I don’t see cosmic armored losing to null
WTF, Mandrakk killed the Spectre, a being who can not be killed unless the Presence died, which proves that Mandrakk also fed on the Presence. And CAS was equal or greater than Mandrakk. RKT is speck of dust to CAS
Few issues with your stance. 1, you are claiming that CAS and that "spectre feat" are in the same story. They are not. I used RKT run and CAS run only. CAS in Beyond 2 didnt beat Mandrakk. Mandrakk was mauling him, and then Cas knocked him off the ledge and didnt fall with him. I have a feeling you did not listen to anything I said or presented in the video, which is sad because you are ignoring a chance to learn things. Spectre can be killed. This was observed in 1992 run as only the SoD is needed to do so. I hope you arent implying the SoD>TOAA for OBVIOUSLY reasons lmao
CAS barely survived Mandarak, he is just overrated. Mandarak's highest attack on CAS was a beam said to be equivalent to the energy from 50 sun's CAS almost died from that.
@@excutsdaily7335 the fuck? MANDRAKK held all of existence on the tip of his finger and this guy thinks '50 suns' you don't even know what you're talking about. On panel it was ten billion suns, but even that it was just a metaphor
I have Cas. The Overvoid is stated by Grant Morrison to house all comic multiverses and Mandrakk was a threat all of existence. So that would naturally scale him above Thor.
Same overvoid both were HORRIFIED of??? If Morrison has authority over all comics and we give that power to others, RKT one shots CAS. He scaled above deadpool.
Nice video by the way. I can tell you put a lot of research on your vids, which is more than I can say for other popular channels, like death battle, though there animations ARE pretty epic.
@@stevenaveed7742 Common bro he just explained that rune king Thor became above the concept of Idea itself. the concept of idea is only second to the writer.he defeated the ones who sit above the shadows they see all stories and narrative which means comical stories as a concept itself and they saw that Ragnarok it self was superior to all stories because it was the death of all God's and they fed on this narrative.CAS can sense the writer but Rune king Thor can manipulate the concept of idea itself. He scale above Mandrakk to high-hyperversal. Rune king Thor has complete control over he's own narrative. So he can only loose if he wants to loose.
@@stevenaveed7742 lol he never said that he only say he is a plot device that can adapt to any story. And Mandrakk who is only an aspect of idea was still dominating the fight.
@@darrylisaac9400 he is, the guy literally showed evidence of Thor seeing the story/narrative before it even being so Thor can change it before it is even started as for supes he can only see it after it is done then he can change it (Thor is already leagues ahead of him before supes can do anything)
Leave the debate to the person who spent hours reading and analyzing the comics u ball sweat and he said that he was a supes fan as well but rune king Thor won (no bias vs video here) u nut eater
I really enjoyed this video and I completely agree with you, RKT wins, and people who don't agree they don't know anything about Rune King Thor, he can do anything, he can create a whole universe and destroy many universes, this fight between RKT and CAS won't be easy, but RKT will win.
I'm about to watch this video but before I do I'm going to pick who I think will win. I don't care about other people's opinions. Cosmic armor superman wins.
And i also don't know how many billions of time rkt is stronger than the normal thor... believe me man..rkt sees future..so he can found the way to beat him..and also he is beyond reality..he also sees and unseenable things..
The only thing I like about cosmic armour Superman is that they made a character specifically meant to kill him and cosmic armour Superman still kicked him hard
Everyone claiming CAS controls the plot forgetting RKT sees everything and decides which event takes place and not. RKT became literally like the God all gods look to. CAS with all his plot manipulation barely survived Mandarak.
@@too_official6194 alright hold on rune king thor is stupid strong he is but he's still under the bigger cosmic entities like eternity infinity fully powered celestials you can calm down
@@too_official6194 not exactly rune king thor is still nigh in every category his feats are impressive but until he is shown of taking down a high tier cosmic entity like lord chaos master order a full powered celestial like one above all your arguments really don't mean much
@@jerry10boston38 i mean He cannot beat beings who scales above him It will worl on those who scales with in him or equal to him Like mandraak was negging cas until cas gets some kind of weapon
@@jerry10boston38 no cas has limits till monitor sphere And mandraak was neghing him Cas should havr one shotted mandraak if he do not have limits And rkt have limits till yaggdrasil actually rkt have higher than it As he one shotted yaggdrasil
Agree with you or not, you deserve respect for going balls deep into RKT👏, I think CAS has more depth behind his story, but its fine. At last, Good will win both ways, either in the form of a god or an alien.
@@BigSirSplash true, they are written to be more than stories after all. So there's no point on fighting over who would win, but rather understand what they are meant to be.
@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 it gets a bit absurd. My best reasoning I think is CAS existence is to overcome whatever threatens creation. That doesnt help him in this battle as RKT isnt threatening creation.
@@BigSirSplash will you make vs battles with armies, like Thanos with his army and battleships vs Mongul with his and Warworld. You know, just trying something new.
Rune king Thor manipulated you to come up with that conclusion lol ngl great video man I’m a Superman fanboy but I respect this outcome & you, thanks for having me.
@@BigSirSplash Thank you very much Mr. YFV. Also Will we see a King-Verse vs DC and Marvel and Cthulhu? I personally am curious wher Pennywise (true self) scales in Marvel since he could be beat by some characters in DC.
Change my mind cosmic wipes the floor with king rune thor the guy is bigger than a multi verse he freaking adapts to what is require to win strength doesn’t even matter cause cosmic will always become as strong as he is require to win
Common bro he just explained that rune king Thor is became above the concept of Idea.the concept of idea is only second to the writer.he defeated the ones who sit above the shadows they see all stories and narrative which means comical stories as a concept itself and they saw that Ragnarok it self was superior to all stories because it was the death of all God's and they fed on this narrative.CAS can sense the writer but Rune king Thor can manipulate the concept of idea itself. He scale above Mandrakk to high-hyperversal
@@andee_keeng4481 “above the concept of idea” this is fodder to CAS. His argument was that RKT can destroy narratives. Which is the exact same thing mandrakk was doing. Except Mandrakk was eating many narratives. Possibly infinite narratives. RKT destroyed one narrative. A single narrative. I fail to see how the gap in power is being addressed by the arguments made in this video.
please do generaor rex vs blue beetle i think this fight would be really interesting also i think generator rex with the meta nanites are really powerful
Interesting.... but CAS has the ability to scale higher and counter his opponents. That is something RTK does not have as he is limited to what he has and knows only.
CA Superman as the same power as Doomsday, he can adapt himself to any opponent. Also, he doens´t have the kryptonite/magic weakness and his powers are I dont know how many billions of times stronger than the "normal" Superman, so I would say that CA Sups wins.
And i also don't know how many billions of time rkt is stronger than the normal thor... believe me man..rkt sees future..so he can found the way to beat him..and also he is beyond reality..he also sees and unseenable things..
It was called a hyperstory. A hyperstory is real thing in literature. But it wasnt called a Hyperstory(specific, new idea unlike the Collochial term) but if you have the issues where that is specified, feel free to link. However, do note I said which comics were used in this video. If you present evidence outside of the video criteria its a waste of time lol. Ill still view but will be annoying if its a case of you did not listen during the video.
@@BigSirSplash Hyperstory and stories r 2 different things in dc. Anyway by just exist in monitor sphere they r already transcending the 2 layers of story
@@supergokuben1869 hyperstory was not called Hyperstory in superman beyond 3D 1 or 2. It was just called a hyperstory in general. DC didnt invent the idea of a hyper story. A hyperstory is one which proceeds without the intro and goes right to action followed by conclusion.
@@supergokuben1869 RKT bypassed layers of stories anyways I explained that, and nothing in Superman Beyond 3D 1 or 2 mentions anything you said lol. The Story of Superman is not a Hyperstory. So you can not argue CAS is both said things, it contradicts.
Unnecessary 30+ minutes video 🧢 You could easily say God version of Thor vs The Writer version of Superman 🥱 and Superman will still take Thor foe out like fee-fi-fum
Bro you created your own happiness and nothing else all i can say the way you explain all these and at the same time being on debate with others is literally a thor fanboy thing who don't want anyhow the defeat of thor 😂🤣
I can make you understand in just 4-7 lines that rkt is far so much for cas First of all it's not even a debate rkt is omnipotent and cas is barely omnicient it's not comparison RKT megastomp
You can't beat the idea of hope Which Superman is.. Superman is invincible. Dr Manhattan even says so. This video is incorrect. Superman beats any Thor
Yo splash I love your videos I wanted to ask do you think you could scale fate servants sometime no one I’ve seen has done this I really am curious to see how they scale to marvel dc other anime etc
Read all the 1,500+ comments, but now I grasp it All and I'm certain that CAS wins hands down! CAS destroys RKT easily!...WHY???, because CAS is above and beyond all concepts before it ever existed. And also there's more fans of Superman that love him and LOVE is the greatest power in the Omniverse, far beyond concepts, plots, thoughts, that gives the Cosmic Armor Superman power to eradicate any character that will exist who will even have the possibility to defeat it, because WE fans decide that concept and we give it in favor of CAS- even more so that makes him not only Immortal but impossible to be defeated.😉 If Rune King Thor can see beyond what will happen and change the story (represented by The One who sits on the shadows?) but we fans are more powerful than the author who made that concept - HIS story itself just a concept, and we "locked" him there.😆 We CAS fans are greater than him and the fact that he's powerless to change our will in favor of him means he's easily defeated and He does not have power to change us coz our WILL powers and favor goes to Cosmic Armour Superman All the Way!!! (FACTS: in the DC vs Marvel crossover, Superman ALWAYS defeats Thor because of the OVERWHELMING fan votes of Superman fans that makes the authors bow down to the demand and make Superman trumps both over Thor and the Hulk.) Also The Monitor and the Anti-Monitor sense that in the DC Universe that RKT will rise, so CAS must exist in the DC Universe to defeat him "just in case he will be a threat". And RKT was not able to prevent it SO now that CAS exists, RKT will surely loose because CAS can adapt and can make himself more powerful than any threat- even those seemingly greater than him theoretically, He can Make himself more powerful than ANY threat. So if RKT will try to invade the DC Universe, he will not even try because he forsaw th end result: CAS will immediately crush and destroy Him!!! If he tries. 😲And In case that happens in the actual yet theoretical comic book REALITY which is their prison- the Comics...We fans will vote AGAIN and make sure CAS dominantly wins in the case of crossover - We are the actual beings above TOWSITS - the one who sits in the shadows (which are the writers). That's a concept and idea that RKT is soooo powerless and cant stop. So the verdict is. Cosmic Armour Superman (CAS) destroys, overpower, crush and totally eradicate RKT easily. CAS > RKT CAS WINS easily! cheers!😁
@@Coldskin1 Haha, thanks for replying on my 1-year-old comment, mate.😄 I have even forgotten that I made this comment here. 🤭 Anyway thanks again for chimming in. Surely Living Tribunal will destroy RKT, because he's above planetary dimension. But CAS will wipe them off both because he is beyond "concept". meaning he already foresee if anybody is planning of fighting him. And he erase that possibility in an instant. Just like the power of Specter in DC. But CAS is waay powerful than that. 👍Cheers mate.😉
I agree but it could also be looked at differently we know that RKT wouldn't be trying to destroy all of existence but to destroy CS is destroying all of existence because if they had another option instead of creating CS they would have he's the last line of defense so it goes hand in hand what you think
CAS would alter the multiverse to erase RKT from existence. He defeated mandrak and can literally alter the multiverse in any way to defeat anyone or anything. The only entity that is equal to him is GOD. Anyone else is worlds away from competing.
That wouldn't work as not only has Rune King Thor one Shotted beings that are forged outside of all realities and The Yggdrasil/World tree, but completely shattered fate and the story of Twsais. Course Cas has no evidence of altering the multiverse on a whim and even then, multiversal is fodder to Rune King Thor. Oh, and Mandrakk defeated Cas and Cas had to resort to Bfr, which almost immediately afterwards, died. Rune King Thor on the other hand, slaughtered Those who are way beyond the multiverse in Marvel.
@@redking8243 CAS was made for the sole purpose of defeating his enemy. RKT is very strong but part of CAS’s abilities is to rise to whichever level needed for victory. His powers have no limit, he will be as strong as needed to defeat his enemy thats why he would win. It doesn’t matter how strong his enemy is, they could even be stronger than RKT, the point is CAS will rise to whatever level is needed to defeat his enemy, that’s why he is so OP because he has that ability.
@@ilovecheesecake516 That's a no limits fallacy. As I've already said, Cas straight up lost to Mandrakk. And Rune King Thor One Shotted True Yggdrasil, which connects on infinite planes, houses infinite universes with each having infinite layers, spatial Dimensions, etc. Twsais are made to feed off stories, narratives. And yet Rune King Thor straight up one shotted them.
@@ilovecheesecake516 No he didn't. He had to drop Mandrakk into the Overvoid. Mandrakk even states multiple times that Cas only banished him. Cas died later on in the same story.
cosmic armor superman was created by the anti-monitors and even if a being is stronger than him the Anti-monitors will supply him With the power he needs to defeat someone So cosmic Armor superman can erase rune king tore From existence
You think your brain lacks at operating. RKT clearly overpowered those beings who literally write his and all others stories and RKT can end that story or change it and CAS even could not beat Mandarrak who is just a multiversel. CAS can't change the story. RkT Thor erases the monitors with CAS from existence
RKT is more Mxy Level who himself views the multiverse as a comic book aka narratives and COS is infinitly above him so this discussion is a big waist of time.
that’s all head canon he was clearly going equal to mandrakk, he didn’t surpass him, and he is not destined to win every fight, he’s destined to beat all evil and rkt isn’t evil
Still have to say cosmic armor superman while ruin king thor did beat Nd kill those who sit above in shadow these beings were almost featless while cosmic armor superman defeated mandrake who easily killed the spectre a multiversal being whis a part of the presence. not to mention this superman exist to literally win every fight he's in because he's superman the guy literally held limbo in his hand and can see and tried to reach through the page to the reader. While thor did destroy the world tree which is impressive lesser and I do mean lesser characters have done this.
@@BigSirSplash yet they still have done next to nothing in the comics other than restarting asgard after ragnarok. While I do agree they are at least above odin level theres next to nothing to suggest there anything more. Mandrak on the other hand is a more impressive foe and has more feats to back it up. The guy literally had the power above all existence. I do agree that thor killing those who sit above in shadow in one shot impressive but again they have nothing to show for in terms of durability so scaling thors attack power is not easy
@@argaurav2523 @All ROUNDER again your comparing them to mandrak who cosmic superman is above. Nothing ruin king thor has can put cosmic superman down while cosmic superman has the potential to beat ruin king thor. Cosmic armor superman is literally made to win almost any fight. His power is far above superman prime one million and superman prime even. You have your opinions on who would win and I have mine just because you believe a character wins doesn't make it so
This is absolutely not controversial. Anyone who thinks RKT is anywhere near CAS level is clueless about comics. RKT has never done anything to be even on Galactus’ level let alone CAS.
yeah he literally turn one to you universe. they bring up yddgisl tree feat like he destroyed it directly, he only crack the loom, the power of the ragnorok life cycle is what actually destroyed the tree
@@BigSirSplash Lol the fact that I’m most likely older than you is even more laughable, but thanks for making me feel young... First off love the content, however CA Supes is above in scope. RKT best feat w*nking aside is destroying the World Tree and beating these Nigh-featless characters who sit above the shadows which dwarfed Odin. So clearly Multiversal+ in scope and impressive, but I wouldn’t quite say that’s above the adapting CAS. CAS mere size is above the DC Multiverse, exists outside the multiverse, held limbo in his hand, he was designed to be the personification of what Superman stands for; and is strong as the story needs him to be and adapted to DC and had borderline Plot manipulation. Thought Robot is above RKT, however if you use DBZ style best w*nking, you could make sense of RKT beating Thought Robot.
@@thekingant2726 So you believe Odin is barely Multiversal+ ? LMAO and TWSIS Shadows are featless? They literally eat stories, the same thing that Mandrakk was doing, whether RKT wins or CAS wins I don't think it is in any way shape or form a stomp
According to Chuck and Seth Goku scales to Rune King Thor I believe. I know its irrelevant to this particular battle but I always assumed Cosmic Armor superman would beat Goku
Wait so king rune Thor end actual narratives ? And Thor can’t end narratives the pantheons in DC exist within the multiverse so they are infinite universes .. That’s why the skyfathers can’t beat one celestial because they outside the regular marvel multiverse ?
Relax and Enjoy the Video!
I'm going to watch it but can we get how kryptonians would fare in sayian Society
-.-..Strange visitor Superman VS Rune king Thor
@@keithcole8536 you can get it if you become a member
@@BigSirSplash I thought me watching your content was enough well I'll never be able to get it since by law I cant have a credit card or debit card well it's been fun but I cant pay for that and my time as a follower should be enough and since it's not I'll unsub from you
So unless some one can pay for that video I am requesting for I cant get the video I want
Kevin from home alone(prep time) vs the One Above All please.
Kevin slaps
Kevin superstomps easy
Bro chiiiiiiiiiill lol
I think Kevin with prep time solos every verse tbg
His not going to make it for you because he diesnt care what you want
Maaaad respect man. This is some seriously good analysis.
Definitely the most confusing fight matchup that I’ve ever seen that was magnificent to hear about the concepts and stories being literally played with by characters that are supposedly in that story which feels fresh.
Its an absurd battle lol
@@BigSirSplash Not gonna lie, reading some of the comment chains confuse the heck out of me. They're all talking about the scaling of True Yggdrasill and how it compares to the Overvoid??? Very tiring
@@DalileoConnor to be fair, DC fans think Mongul solos marvel. Wild ones on each side
@@BigSirSplash Facts lol, we do get quite the extremist
@@BigSirSplash so what is the comparison between those dimensions? What is the Overvoid in comparison to others?
Whoever wins we can all agree it would be one hell of a fight
Most likely they stand staring at eachother for most of the fight
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Damn what a banger! Honestly I like Thor more but I thought he would lose not by much but still lose, well I was wrong great video.
No really this is even close if a person knows how to fight. supes has one big weakness, really 2. Kryptonite and the sun. So Thor can defeat Supes in 2 ways...one transport him to a sun that is yellow, and that weakens him dramatically, and second he commands the earth and has the power of teleportation...gather up those nice green works and defeat Supes. So no matter what power level thor is in, he can beat superman.
@RobertSpiller neither kryptonite or sunlight matters to cas
@@sptflcrw8583 Right, and it doesn't matter to the writers....so much inconsistentcy. that's why I don't take this stuff to seriouslyl.
As a lover of both Superman and Thor, this is a fucking treat. Okay with any result of this video.
Screw thor
Man, the power rankings of both worlds (dc and marvel) are crazy confusing, and broken. You have characters that can left entire planets, characters the can control the multiverse or ARE the Multi-verse, and now characters that can literally control fiction and there and own Stories. Marvel and DC are probably one of, if not, the MOST broken franchises ever created by anyone.
Tbh, I never though of The Ones Who Sir Above In Shadow as story authors, but yeah....it makes a lot of sense. They feed off the stories of the Asgardians with all the Ragnaroks that go on during the issues.
I think the one who are in shadow are only celestial.
I originally thought that CAS would ez no diff RKT coming into this video, but you have amazing arguments. Nice vid!
CAS still wins. Idk why he thinks RKT wins..
@@randomdude3773 No. RKT wins
@@randomdude3773 same here he just thor fan boi
@@evilsuperman2763 Debate me on rkt vs cas
@@evilsuperman2763 I bet you can't actually produce a proper argument. Calling him a fanboy doesn't make you any less butthurt sir
CAS. He adapts to what ever he needs to be in order to defeat any threat he is facing
not any threat just threat to creation
Cas solos fiction
@@yenxin7407 no he doesnt
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx yes he does, debunkled
@@yenxin7407 debunkled? as it says in the comic, The thought robot is "a sentinel suit designed for a single purpose, made to protect all existence against the ultimate enemy". if a character is not threatening existence CAS cant do anything to them
Everytime this match up happens, I feel like people might confuse a VS and "who's stronger". There's alot of instances where two characters who are different in strength, yet different In a VS against each other. In my interpretation is that if Thor were to invade DC, CAS would just adapt to overcome him... And I know that sounds like a simple explanation, and we all go home, but let's for 1 moment think of this..
Hear me out! let's sit down and remind ourselves that everything just a story capable of editing. All things fiction, is just the result of an actual human as the creator of that world. In that "world" the contents of which is experienced through pages, and text.. all things fiction fits in there. You can have infinite realms of infinite worlds, each worlds having infinite voids where ideals themselves lie into and you still won't reach reality (this realm) even from a dimensional and philosophical perspective, there is no transcendance above reality. the original comics of CAS were in 3D symbolizing the narrative being beyond comics. That's what CAS symbolizes. Beyond just comics. Before stories and narratives exists, they exist in the comic books... that's where we read them.
Now the interesting and forgotten aspect people forget with CAS is that pannel where he was able to hear the reader breathing and feel the reader turning the pages, is letting the reader know that CAS is beyond just comics and let me finish before any of you down vote.
Beyond all things fiction, at the end of the day, fiction isn't real, therefore capable of being changed (stay with me) Thor in my interpretation isn't above the page he's printed on and CAS's interpretation is intended to be what's before all stories, the physical pages themselves. Before you get Ragnarok, Yddrasil, Mjolnir, Odin, they exist as ideas and stories and experienced by the reader itself as pages in this case. The intended interpretation of CAS is to be above what's comics and real life, hence the original comic book being 3D hearing the reader breathe and feeling your own page turn is a feat in it if itself. It's symbolic that CAS is beyond just story itself, and that he's what's right before fiction and reality above all things.
I feel like you can fit rune King Thor inside of a story that's contained within a comicbook. In that realm, it's infinite in size, with infinite worlds. Yet it's all just a story printed on a page where CAS is intended to be what's before all stories, by metaphorically (because it's physically impossible) closing the gap between fiction and reality as seen with him experiencing the reader itself if that makes sense..
Thor ended narratives and stories..hes beyond them as well. CAS did not understand whatever presence was observing him. He said that himself, which debunks the notion he even remotely scales to the reader lol. CAS power is only useful if creation is under threat, RKT isnt threatening creation
Forgot to add on, imagine you as an author created a story in which a character has the ability to do all things they wished to in all the infinite realms they've created..
Aren't you still more powerful than that character? I mean you can change the idea of that character. You're the author...
I think that's where DC places CAS but kinda messed up by still making it a comic book involving an unnecessary and intense fight for comic sales.
@@shadowflare2255 CAS didnt author anything. Which page and issue did he do that? He survived a hyper narrative which was Mandrakks story, he didnt write anything at all so I legit have no clue why you implied/said that. CAS didnt beat Mandrakk, so he doesnt scale above him, at best absolute maybe you argue Mandrakk Level.
Both are in stories even though they "transcend" stories so its kinda silly at that point. What I went off of is CAS stipulation for his amps, and who has shown literal narrative manip themselves on top of doing so offensively(RKT did so), and RKT idea is he embodies the concept of always finding another away even if defeat is inevitable. Their is always a way to win. He also sees all narratives even unwritten ones. He would see whatever CAS narrative will be.
@@BigSirSplash neither did RKT. You can't be the author of your own story as simple as that sounds, that's philosophically and literally Impossible...
Rune King Thor didn't create himself. We as people creating him into a story, did. Fiction isn't above reality. Not to say cas is either, don't get me wrong, But his interpretation is intended to be what the reader themselves understand as what's before anything becomes a story is it not?
Also I never once stated CAS scales to the reader itself. That's literally impossible. Fiction by definition isn't real therefore can't ever scale into the real world. Ever.
Bruh this is a massive stomp for CAS.
Wrong
@@LetQCook A Meta-Fictional character vs a Universal+ Character. Sure, mate.
RKT is outversal actually so CAS but higher
@@too_official6194 superman still stomps
@@analternatemultiverse2063 universal plus🤣 and cas is toilet level lol and rkt is boundless
I respectfully disagree I think people can interpret this to comics differently but it's still a good video 🙂
Thats fine!
@@BigSirSplash im not sure you realize this but CAS is a sealed version of PC Superman’s power.
CAS and mandrakk were both below the overvoid because CAS is a sealed power.
Unbound PC superman would scale to and above the overvoid. He would fodder RKT lol .
@@trnrred489No. he wouldn’t. lol. Yall just have to invent reasons to avoid Superman taking an L 🤦♂️
@@colinharris615 asserting your opinion against a scale does make the scaling go away. It just makes you look bad :)
One of your greatest and controversial vids. That’s what I love about this channel you aren’t afraid to speak you’re opinion on certain things in fear of losing subs unlike some other CZcamsrs
Wow I didnt expect that good stuff splash
Wow didn't expect this. So imma just sit this one out and preserve my opinion even though most of you already know it
Superman wins this fight
@@gutsandblood9875 You are free to insert your opinions my friend
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo I just don't know who to choose. That's not being a fanboy. Stop letting other people's opinions bother you
@@ugospotty678 hey man don't play I've seen you go FULL Marvel on other channels lol
Weird thing is splash has said before cosmic armour slaps I know sups is high outer didjt think rune king would be 🤔
Now that I think on it, why couldn't Lex Luthor cure his own cancer after gaining the powers and sight of Superman? (This was based in one of the movies where afterwards Superman went into the Sun to heal from being poisoned by his own power)
I know this is really off topic of the video but this has always confused me
Milkmanman just watching and enjoying the fight
Yeah rkt vs mikaman will be a better matchup
@@argaurav2523 lmao milkmanman one shots
@@argaurav2523 even the overvoid/ true god of dc is a subject to retcon corp and he don’t give a milk about retcon corp
@@tahmima4877 irony lol
@@tahmima4877 retcom corps are with in overvoid iirc if
And one more thing rkt negs overvoid
Honestly I feel like this fight could go either way depending on how they would actually meet
No cas one shots him easy
@@GrutenZylos ur crazy bro
@@XxWhitewolfxX-go6tj
Nah bruh this guy kinda over exaggerated rk Thor bruh he talks about how Thor transcend stories and narrative but that’s not even true if u read the comic there’s noting about these transcended stories bruh
@@XxWhitewolfxX-go6tj
From what I see I thought he use stories as more like history and past present and such but he seems to say stuff transcended narrative stories witch never even happen in it bruh
@@GrutenZylos he says that it doesn't explicitly state that. Just that it can be inferred using context clues
I was under the impression that cosmic armor Superman was always going to be as strong as he needed to be didn’t this get wacked by null , ? I don’t see cosmic armored losing to null
cosmic armor cannot lose
Literally cannot lose. Let me make this clear cosmic armor superman can adapt to ANYTHING and be as strong as he needs to be to win.
@@284animal No limits falacy, Also straight up untrue in the current DC cosmology.
@@284animal”damaged beyond repair” and Mandrakk comes back anyway. Yeah he TOTALLY “can’t lose” 🤣🤣🤣
WTF, Mandrakk killed the Spectre, a being who can not be killed unless the Presence died, which proves that Mandrakk also fed on the Presence. And CAS was equal or greater than Mandrakk. RKT is speck of dust to CAS
Few issues with your stance. 1, you are claiming that CAS and that "spectre feat" are in the same story. They are not. I used RKT run and CAS run only. CAS in Beyond 2 didnt beat Mandrakk. Mandrakk was mauling him, and then Cas knocked him off the ledge and didnt fall with him.
I have a feeling you did not listen to anything I said or presented in the video, which is sad because you are ignoring a chance to learn things.
Spectre can be killed. This was observed in 1992 run as only the SoD is needed to do so. I hope you arent implying the SoD>TOAA for OBVIOUSLY reasons lmao
Rkt>>>>>>spectre
CAS barely survived Mandarak, he is just overrated.
Mandarak's highest attack on CAS was a beam said to be equivalent to the energy from 50 sun's CAS almost died from that.
@@excutsdaily7335 imagine using anti feats to downplaying characters
@@excutsdaily7335 the fuck? MANDRAKK held all of existence on the tip of his finger and this guy thinks '50 suns' you don't even know what you're talking about. On panel it was ten billion suns, but even that it was just a metaphor
I have Cas.
The Overvoid is stated by Grant Morrison to house all comic multiverses and Mandrakk was a threat all of existence. So that would naturally scale him above Thor.
Same overvoid both were HORRIFIED of???
If Morrison has authority over all comics and we give that power to others, RKT one shots CAS. He scaled above deadpool.
@@BigSirSplash
Good point
@@BigSirSplash It's CAS > RKT
@@randomdude3773 RKT>CAS SHUT UP WATCH WHOLE VIDEO HE EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TIKTOK KID
@@randomdude3773 nope
Nice video by the way. I can tell you put a lot of research on your vids, which is more than I can say for other popular channels, like death battle, though there animations ARE pretty epic.
I don't agree but I respect your opinion.
Same
@@BigSirSplash thx
@@williamsummerson1204 its not only a opinion its fac rkt > cas and he explained why sooo
How about Batman with prep time vs Rune King Thor ???? :)
thanks for the video!
Batman stomps fiction
@@AbdulRehman-yc2yr cap, batman have no power, he just stole powers and use it.
@@liquidpeter9240 it's a joke
He wont make it unless you give him your money
He cant even beat base thor with preparation
Good match up.
Ahhh this should be interesting
Nah cosmic armor claps no diff
We love to see it!!!!
Video idea;
Rick Sanchez with prep vs Batman with prep.
Please and ty!
I think rick just has too much 4D awareness. He casually does stuff like point out he’s in an ad. I love my boy Batman, but he just can’t beat rick
@@ddl3718 awareness doesn't equal power tho
Loving the vs battle videos. Can't wait for the kratos vs dante video
He wont do unless he makes your money which he doesnt deserve or earn
@@keithcole8536 Yeah sure whatever troll
Lore kratos wins
@@eivor5453 Lore Kratos is secondary to main Kratos and main Kratos is weak as F.
@@windandcloudshadow158 game kratos is nerfed confirmed by the developers
Well I'm going with CAS
What is your reason
@@andee_keeng4481 plot device, Situation adopt power he OK is literally the writers pen inside a story
@@stevenaveed7742 Common bro he just explained that rune king Thor became above the concept of Idea itself. the concept of idea is only second to the writer.he defeated the ones who sit above the shadows they see all stories and narrative which means comical stories as a concept itself and they saw that Ragnarok it self was superior to all stories because it was the death of all God's and they fed on this narrative.CAS can sense the writer but Rune king Thor can manipulate the concept of idea itself. He scale above Mandrakk to high-hyperversal. Rune king Thor has complete control over he's own narrative. So he can only loose if he wants to loose.
@@stevenaveed7742 lol he never said that he only say he is a plot device that can adapt to any story. And Mandrakk who is only an aspect of idea was still dominating the fight.
@@andee_keeng4481 well ok Maybe you need to see some writer's interview
We all know my boy Farmer with a shot gun stronger then both of them
I’m so glad that someone finally gives Thor some respect and credit that he deserves.
One of your best video ever . GOAT splash
Is this a joke? CAS stomps
Yes its a joke what u have wrotten after question mark
I honestly think your just hopping on a bandwagon of people
@@darrylisaac9400 he is, the guy literally showed evidence of Thor seeing the story/narrative before it even being so Thor can change it before it is even started as for supes he can only see it after it is done then he can change it (Thor is already leagues ahead of him before supes can do anything)
Leave the debate to the person who spent hours reading and analyzing the comics u ball sweat and he said that he was a supes fan as well but rune king Thor won (no bias vs video here) u nut eater
Fan boy..rkt will win
Damn YFV is becoming one of my favorite power scalers rn.
I really enjoyed this video and I completely agree with you, RKT wins, and people who don't agree they don't know anything about Rune King Thor, he can do anything, he can create a whole universe and destroy many universes, this fight between RKT and CAS won't be easy, but RKT will win.
When i Saw ur name ☠️
My brain is full of knowledge now, thank you~
I'm about to watch this video but before I do I'm going to pick who I think will win. I don't care about other people's opinions. Cosmic armor superman wins.
And i also don't know how many billions of time rkt is stronger than the normal thor... believe me man..rkt sees future..so he can found the way to beat him..and also he is beyond reality..he also sees and unseenable things..
Safe space lol sjw.
Yessir my boy! I was waiting for the official answer and I was completely right.
🤦 it's not even a fight CAS just blinks RKT.
@@too_official6194 lmao u have no idea , CAS and mandrakk is above the writers itself .
@@jyothis.n629 lol he's not
@@too_official6194 Beyonders are not above writers , not even pre retcon beyonder is above writer.
@@too_official6194 Dude RKT is the level of superman prime , comparing him with CAS is mismatch.
The only thing I like about cosmic armour Superman is that they made a character specifically meant to kill him and cosmic armour Superman still kicked him hard
He got whooped by Mandrakk tf? He literally had to resort to Bfr to save the monitors and even then was still beyond saving.
Kicked him hard?? Mandrakk beat the dog sh!t out of cas. He only won by the skin of his teeth
Everyone claiming CAS controls the plot forgetting RKT sees everything and decides which event takes place and not. RKT became literally like the God all gods look to. CAS with all his plot manipulation barely survived Mandarak.
Hmmm god of gods lol Living tribunal, One above all, Oblivion and Eternity shit stomps Thor but nice try thou.
@@too_official6194 Above the One above all my god you fanboys are delusional.
@@too_official6194 alright hold on rune king thor is stupid strong he is but he's still under the bigger cosmic entities like eternity infinity fully powered celestials you can calm down
@@too_official6194 not exactly rune king thor is still nigh in every category his feats are impressive but until he is shown of taking down a high tier cosmic entity like lord chaos master order a full powered celestial like one above all your arguments really don't mean much
@@too_official6194 unless they make rune king thor stronger in some way
i enjoyed it and also where you get the music from
Look up steampunk battle music free youtube music
@@BigSirSplash thanks
I originally though cas would win but man you changed my mind
I think you're right it would be a hard-fought fight Rune King Thor will come out on top so you pick the right winner
CAS is literally the writers pen inside a story no comparison but still i respect your opinion
Rune King Thor is immortal
@@heismoraye so is CAS
@@stevenaveed7742 so what makes you think cas can kill Thor?
@@heismoraye to win a battle you don't need to kill someone but i still think CAS will win
@@stevenaveed7742 Thor claps end of story
But how is this controversial rune king is nowhere near cosmic arnour
U ve just stated opposite
True, he's far above him.
So even tho Superman has the power that he can get anything to win. He would still lose to Thor right?
Their are limits of it
@@argaurav2523 wym
@@jerry10boston38 i mean
He cannot beat beings who scales above him
It will worl on those who scales with in him or equal to him
Like mandraak was negging cas until cas gets some kind of weapon
@@argaurav2523 people say Superman doesn’t has a limited. And his plot Device. And saying Thor had limits
@@jerry10boston38 no cas has limits till monitor sphere
And mandraak was neghing him
Cas should havr one shotted mandraak if he do not have limits
And rkt have limits till yaggdrasil actually rkt have higher than it
As he one shotted yaggdrasil
Damn where was this video when I was being absolutely massacred by those Thought bot fanboys good job man ....
Lol. You should consider becoming a member!
@@BigSirSplash I will as soon as it's available in my country
@@aryeng3004 as soon as what is available?
@@aryeng3004 add me on discord, may be other ways to become one!
@@BigSirSplash ok very well
Great video
Agree with you or not, you deserve respect for going balls deep into RKT👏, I think CAS has more depth behind his story, but its fine. At last, Good will win both ways, either in the form of a god or an alien.
I can see either side winning depending on the claim you make, and the argumentation
@@BigSirSplash true, they are written to be more than stories after all. So there's no point on fighting over who would win, but rather understand what they are meant to be.
@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 it gets a bit absurd. My best reasoning I think is CAS existence is to overcome whatever threatens creation. That doesnt help him in this battle as RKT isnt threatening creation.
@@BigSirSplash will you make vs battles with armies, like Thanos with his army and battleships vs Mongul with his and Warworld.
You know, just trying something new.
@@BigSirSplash the way i see it. Rkt is beyond the story.were cas is the story and his villain is the anti-story. To me it makes thor the winner.
Rune king Thor manipulated you to come up with that conclusion lol ngl great video man I’m a Superman fanboy but I respect this outcome & you, thanks for having me.
Please do a more on Thor wonder woman silver surfer and hulk
I didn’t realize Rune King Thor was even close to CAS. Great video as always. Thanks!!
Opposite this
Cas is not even close to rkt
I can EXPLAIN if you want with pure respect
@@BillionEditzgo on I'll debunk it afterwards
RKT is nowhere near CAS
@@Havsue yeah thor only low multiversal
@@Coldskin1it’s honestly like you didn’t even watch the video 🤦♂️🤣
Remember me when you hit 25k…..
Remembering them all🔥
@@BigSirSplash Thank you very much Mr. YFV. Also Will we see a King-Verse vs DC and Marvel and Cthulhu? I personally am curious wher Pennywise (true self) scales in Marvel since he could be beat by some characters in DC.
Change my mind cosmic wipes the floor with king rune thor the guy is bigger than a multi verse he freaking adapts to what is require to win strength doesn’t even matter cause cosmic will always become as strong as he is require to win
Common bro he just explained that rune king Thor is became above the concept of Idea.the concept of idea is only second to the writer.he defeated the ones who sit above the shadows they see all stories and narrative which means comical stories as a concept itself and they saw that Ragnarok it self was superior to all stories because it was the death of all God's and they fed on this narrative.CAS can sense the writer but Rune king Thor can manipulate the concept of idea itself. He scale above Mandrakk to high-hyperversal
looool thor omni potent=his power infinity
how he got defeated by stupid cas
@@theoneaboveall2878 rkt isnt omnipotent stfu dude
@@theoneaboveall2878 rkt iwns
@@andee_keeng4481 “above the concept of idea” this is fodder to CAS.
His argument was that RKT can destroy narratives. Which is the exact same thing mandrakk was doing. Except Mandrakk was eating many narratives. Possibly infinite narratives.
RKT destroyed one narrative. A single narrative. I fail to see how the gap in power is being addressed by the arguments made in this video.
What a video man..i also believe that rkt will win...so nice video bro
I agree with this and this is what most people forgot of,
I still disagree with you. Supes take this one...
Swag
CAS fucking stomps RKT
Language!
Cas solos fiction
@@yenxin7407 Not even
@@yenxin7407 no way
@@yenxin7407 that would mean he could beat every one in the dc universe at the same time including mandrak
good video man. Can you make another video? Like the difference Rune King Thor and Herald Thor. much respect for you man.
please do generaor rex vs blue beetle i think this fight would be really interesting also i think generator rex with the meta nanites are really powerful
cas: iam hyperversal 😎😎and i will defeat you easily 😂😎
rkt: iam omni potent
superman: iam so sorry i take my words back 😥😥😥
Interesting.... but CAS has the ability to scale higher and counter his opponents. That is something RTK does not have as he is limited to what he has and knows only.
CA Superman as the same power as Doomsday, he can adapt himself to any opponent. Also, he doens´t have the kryptonite/magic weakness and his powers are I dont know how many billions of times stronger than the "normal" Superman, so I would say that CA Sups wins.
And i also don't know how many billions of time rkt is stronger than the normal thor... believe me man..rkt sees future..so he can found the way to beat him..and also he is beyond reality..he also sees and unseenable things..
@@Huzaifa2731 so? cas has seen the past future and even the making of creation
@@Huzaifa2731 cas also sees future past ad present
Thor knows the runes. That can bring him back to life
Good vid ! Agree with the response it’s as close the thing and hulk just a little a outclassed but very near the same power level
I would love to hear your stance on Goku vs Saitama
goku claps hard
Saitama necked goku easily
You just started a war
You will have to pay him for that since he doesnt care about your comment
@@keithcole8536 lol idc if he sees it or not I'm just commenting for the lols
Why r u comparing hyperstory to normal story.
Cuz hyperstory exist in final heaven
Yh there r many layers of stories within dc
It was called a hyperstory. A hyperstory is real thing in literature. But it wasnt called a Hyperstory(specific, new idea unlike the Collochial term) but if you have the issues where that is specified, feel free to link. However, do note I said which comics were used in this video. If you present evidence outside of the video criteria its a waste of time lol. Ill still view but will be annoying if its a case of you did not listen during the video.
@@BigSirSplash Hyperstory and stories r 2 different things in dc.
Anyway by just exist in monitor sphere they r already transcending the 2 layers of story
@@supergokuben1869 hyperstory was not called Hyperstory in superman beyond 3D 1 or 2. It was just called a hyperstory in general. DC didnt invent the idea of a hyper story. A hyperstory is one which proceeds without the intro and goes right to action followed by conclusion.
@@supergokuben1869 RKT bypassed layers of stories anyways I explained that, and nothing in Superman Beyond 3D 1 or 2 mentions anything you said lol. The Story of Superman is not a Hyperstory. So you can not argue CAS is both said things, it contradicts.
Unnecessary 30+ minutes video 🧢
You could easily say God version of Thor vs The Writer version of Superman 🥱 and Superman will still take Thor foe out like fee-fi-fum
bro you, chuck, seth, and the others deserve that do powerscaling more views tbh. not a lot in the comic/anime community don't do what you guys do.
Cas win
Without even watching the video, Cosmic Armor Superman wins
hyper versal is no thing in front of omni potent
rkt the omni potent sups hyperversal soooo......//
i know right is not even close
@@theoneaboveall2878 cas is not just hyperversal and rkt is not omnipotent bro, don't exagerated
Bro you created your own happiness and nothing else all i can say the way you explain all these and at the same time being on debate with others is literally a thor fanboy thing who don't want anyhow the defeat of thor 😂🤣
I can make you understand in just 4-7 lines that rkt is far so much for cas
First of all it's not even a debate rkt is omnipotent and cas is barely omnicient it's not comparison RKT megastomp
@@BillionEditz no no thanks i don't want any explaination
Its very simple. Cas knows rune king thor is a comic book character. He will use white out and just erase rkt
Wow😂😂😂😂
You can't beat the idea of hope Which Superman is.. Superman is invincible. Dr Manhattan even says so. This video is incorrect. Superman beats any Thor
RKT stomps, he scales too on an higher cosmology
Cap
@@hoodiepart2898 nope
@@hoodiepart2898 how do u scale marvel and dc s cosmologies?
@@hoodiepart2898 because i can scale it infinitely into high outer
No Superman is power itself he could kill Thor with a fart
I guess Cosmic Armour Superman would win 10/10 but Rune King Thor would some damage
rkt would win bro
Well yeah I know that but people tell me I don't know anything and I'm incorrect which is not true
@@JaydontPlay124 RKT actually shits on him
Yo splash I love your videos I wanted to ask do you think you could scale fate servants sometime no one I’ve seen has done this I really am curious to see how they scale to marvel dc other anime etc
Read all the 1,500+ comments, but now I grasp it All and I'm certain that CAS wins hands down!
CAS destroys RKT easily!...WHY???, because CAS is above and beyond all concepts before it ever existed. And also there's more fans of Superman that love him and LOVE is the greatest power in the Omniverse, far beyond concepts, plots, thoughts, that gives the Cosmic Armor Superman power to eradicate any character that will exist who will even have the possibility to defeat it, because WE fans decide that concept and we give it in favor of CAS- even more so that makes him not only Immortal but impossible to be defeated.😉 If Rune King Thor can see beyond what will happen and change the story (represented by The One who sits on the shadows?) but we fans are more powerful than the author who made that concept - HIS story itself just a concept, and we "locked" him there.😆 We CAS fans are greater than him and the fact that he's powerless to change our will in favor of him means he's easily defeated and He does not have power to change us coz our WILL powers and favor goes to Cosmic Armour Superman All the Way!!! (FACTS: in the DC vs Marvel crossover, Superman ALWAYS defeats Thor because of the OVERWHELMING fan votes of Superman fans that makes the authors bow down to the demand and make Superman trumps both over Thor and the Hulk.)
Also The Monitor and the Anti-Monitor sense that in the DC Universe that RKT will rise, so CAS must exist in the DC Universe to defeat him "just in case he will be a threat". And RKT was not able to prevent it SO now that CAS exists, RKT will surely loose because CAS can adapt and can make himself more powerful than any threat- even those seemingly greater than him theoretically, He can Make himself more powerful than ANY threat. So if RKT will try to invade the DC Universe, he will not even try because he forsaw th end result: CAS will immediately crush and destroy Him!!! If he tries. 😲And In case that happens in the actual yet theoretical comic book REALITY which is their prison- the Comics...We fans will vote AGAIN and make sure CAS dominantly wins in the case of crossover - We are the actual beings above TOWSITS - the one who sits in the shadows (which are the writers). That's a concept and idea that RKT is soooo powerless and cant stop. So the verdict is.
Cosmic Armour Superman (CAS) destroys, overpower, crush and totally eradicate RKT easily.
CAS > RKT
CAS WINS easily! cheers!😁
rkt not even beating the living tribual who is only 16d
@@Coldskin1 Haha, thanks for replying on my 1-year-old comment, mate.😄 I have even forgotten that I made this comment here. 🤭 Anyway thanks again for chimming in. Surely Living Tribunal will destroy RKT, because he's above planetary dimension. But CAS will wipe them off both because he is beyond "concept". meaning he already foresee if anybody is planning of fighting him. And he erase that possibility in an instant. Just like the power of Specter in DC. But CAS is waay powerful than that. 👍Cheers mate.😉
CAS stomps
Cap cas is multiverse thor is boundless
Thor wins
@@liquidpeter9240 CAS is high outerversal
@@too_official6194 lol😂
@@too_official6194 i mean u think there are only couple.of boundless beings in marvel..
How funny
Even rkt is boundless
I agree but it could also be looked at differently we know that RKT wouldn't be trying to destroy all of existence but to destroy CS is destroying all of existence because if they had another option instead of creating CS they would have he's the last line of defense so it goes hand in hand what you think
Aiit
I ve watched the video
And ur logics were excellent
Good video dude
Splash is GOAT
@@manasraj2877 you the goat :)
@@freddymyres8718 why??
@@manasraj2877 because u are awesome 😎
Raven vs Nagato Uzumaki
Depressed emo tsundere with purple eyes and pale skin vs depressed emo tsundere with purple eyes and pale skin
His not going to make it for you
Thats not a close fight raven solos naruto verse
CAS would alter the multiverse to erase RKT from existence. He defeated mandrak and can literally alter the multiverse in any way to defeat anyone or anything. The only entity that is equal to him is GOD. Anyone else is worlds away from competing.
That wouldn't work as not only has Rune King Thor one Shotted beings that are forged outside of all realities and The Yggdrasil/World tree, but completely shattered fate and the story of Twsais. Course Cas has no evidence of altering the multiverse on a whim and even then, multiversal is fodder to Rune King Thor. Oh, and Mandrakk defeated Cas and Cas had to resort to Bfr, which almost immediately afterwards, died. Rune King Thor on the other hand, slaughtered Those who are way beyond the multiverse in Marvel.
@@redking8243 CAS was made for the sole purpose of defeating his enemy. RKT is very strong but part of CAS’s abilities is to rise to whichever level needed for victory. His powers have no limit, he will be as strong as needed to defeat his enemy thats why he would win. It doesn’t matter how strong his enemy is, they could even be stronger than RKT, the point is CAS will rise to whatever level is needed to defeat his enemy, that’s why he is so OP because he has that ability.
@@ilovecheesecake516 That's a no limits fallacy. As I've already said, Cas straight up lost to Mandrakk. And Rune King Thor One Shotted True Yggdrasil, which connects on infinite planes, houses infinite universes with each having infinite layers, spatial Dimensions, etc. Twsais are made to feed off stories, narratives. And yet Rune King Thor straight up one shotted them.
@@redking8243 CAS defeated mandrak lol.. What comic are you reading 🤪
@@ilovecheesecake516 No he didn't. He had to drop Mandrakk into the Overvoid. Mandrakk even states multiple times that Cas only banished him. Cas died later on in the same story.
cosmic armor superman was created by the anti-monitors and even if a being is stronger than him the Anti-monitors will supply him With the power he needs to defeat someone So cosmic Armor superman can erase rune king tore From existence
You think your brain lacks at operating. RKT clearly overpowered those beings who literally write his and all others stories and RKT can end that story or change it and CAS even could not beat Mandarrak who is just a multiversel. CAS can't change the story. RkT Thor erases the monitors with CAS from existence
RKT is more Mxy Level who himself views the multiverse as a comic book aka narratives and COS is infinitly above him so this discussion is a big waist of time.
Man rune king thor, end narratives
@@luizgustavosilvaamorim4408 Hmmm and so does Mxy lol.
@@windandcloudshadow158 the difference is that mxy would lose badly to CAS while RKT would destroy CAS no diff
@@simeon8814 You have no proof of that soooo here we are again.
@@windandcloudshadow158 i ve no proof? he only destroyed the realm of TOAA,scale to an higher cosmology etc... nothing of so special for u?
Splash is 🐐
Facts
Thing is CAS never looses no matter what. He gets adapted to the opponent's speed, Strength, abilities hence surpassing them. CAS Slams
that’s all head canon he was clearly going equal to mandrakk, he didn’t surpass him, and he is not destined to win every fight, he’s destined to beat all evil and rkt isn’t evil
@@nate.j C.A.S still greater after reading Both Comics
@@ag_animationzCas got humiliated and died. RKT bossed everyone and everything
There is no version of Superman who can beat either King Rune Thor or Cosmic Thor.
Ippo Makunouchi (Hajime no Ippo) vs Gaolang Wongsawat (Kengan Ashura)
I got my money on CA s
Supes
Still have to say cosmic armor superman while ruin king thor did beat Nd kill those who sit above in shadow these beings were almost featless while cosmic armor superman defeated mandrake who easily killed the spectre a multiversal being whis a part of the presence. not to mention this superman exist to literally win every fight he's in because he's superman the guy literally held limbo in his hand and can see and tried to reach through the page to the reader. While thor did destroy the world tree which is impressive lesser and I do mean lesser characters have done this.
To be fair, its hypocritical to call TWAIS featless when they literally have the same amount of appearences as Mandrakk lol
@@BigSirSplash yet they still have done next to nothing in the comics other than restarting asgard after ragnarok. While I do agree they are at least above odin level theres next to nothing to suggest there anything more. Mandrak on the other hand is a more impressive foe and has more feats to back it up. The guy literally had the power above all existence. I do agree that thor killing those who sit above in shadow in one shot impressive but again they have nothing to show for in terms of durability so scaling thors attack power is not easy
Lol i bet u dont know about yaggdrasil and the outside
U calling shadow gids featless lol😓
@@argaurav2523 @All ROUNDER again your comparing them to mandrak who cosmic superman is above. Nothing ruin king thor has can put cosmic superman down while cosmic superman has the potential to beat ruin king thor. Cosmic armor superman is literally made to win almost any fight. His power is far above superman prime one million and superman prime even. You have your opinions on who would win and I have mine just because you believe a character wins doesn't make it so
@@BigSirSplash this is horrible video and so wrong. You would lose your arguments in a court of law and you didn't present all feats of Superman
Came here from chucks channel! Sun'd!
This is absolutely not controversial. Anyone who thinks RKT is anywhere near CAS level is clueless about comics. RKT has never done anything to be even on Galactus’ level let alone CAS.
yeah he literally turn one to you universe.
they bring up yddgisl tree feat like he destroyed it directly, he only crack the loom, the power of the ragnorok life cycle is what actually destroyed the tree
Never even considered this to be a match or even a debate but I wanna see the video anyone because I love yah. (Btw I think CA Superman wins).
CA Superman wins, even with this scaling for Thor, he still isn’t above the TR.
You liked your own comment. Shows heart kid. Now, which parts did you disagree, and which scans did I misrepresent? Looking forward to your response!
how lol
RKT negs CAS
@@BigSirSplash Lol the fact that I’m most likely older than you is even more laughable, but thanks for making me feel young...
First off love the content, however CA Supes is above in scope.
RKT best feat w*nking aside is destroying the World Tree and beating these Nigh-featless characters who sit above the shadows which dwarfed Odin.
So clearly Multiversal+ in scope and impressive, but I wouldn’t quite say that’s above the adapting CAS.
CAS mere size is above the DC Multiverse, exists outside the multiverse, held limbo in his hand, he was designed to be the personification of what Superman stands for; and is strong as the story needs him to be and adapted to DC and had borderline Plot manipulation.
Thought Robot is above RKT, however if you use DBZ style best w*nking, you could make sense of RKT beating Thought Robot.
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So you believe Odin is barely Multiversal+ ?
LMAO and TWSIS Shadows are featless? They literally eat stories, the same thing that Mandrakk was doing, whether RKT wins or CAS wins I don't think it is in any way shape or form a stomp
According to Chuck and Seth Goku scales to Rune King Thor I believe. I know its irrelevant to this particular battle but I always assumed Cosmic Armor superman would beat Goku
It's called high balling I am a dragon ball fan but right mui Goku is Multiversal
And caS is beyond Multiversal
I think that they claimed this before the actual comics came out
Cas bolos dc
@@KrishanKumar-ym5zg no lmao
Lmao that’s just BS. The normal versions of the characters would solo a large amount of Dragon Ball alone
Wait so king rune Thor end actual narratives ? And Thor can’t end narratives the pantheons in DC exist within the multiverse so they are infinite universes .. That’s why the skyfathers can’t beat one celestial because they outside the regular marvel multiverse ?
What he doesn't realize is that Mxy Views the infinite multiverse as a comic book aka narratives and COS is infinitly about him.