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- We all know that there are lots of different driving offence penalties you can receive but you may not know how serious some of the penalties can be and for what may appear to be something relatively minor at the time. Penalties for driving offences can have a devastating effect on every aspect of your life so it is important to know what those penalties are and how they can arise.
This is not legal advice, of course, just an outline of some of the penalties and some of the reasons they can be imposed.
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This is all very well, but in my 40+ years of driving, it is never the dangerous idiots who get stopped and charged!
The standard of UK driving is infinitely worse than it has ever been, yet you almost never see proper Policing of the roads to get the loonies off it, just static speed cameras earning income for the government
Measurements of instantaneous speed like that are the spawn of the devil.
If you're going to enforce limits like that, put a camera at the beginning and end of a long zone (miles) and enforce average speed instead. Much better than one camera at the end of a downhill trying to catch you off guard.
But really these robots aren't very good for identifying genuinely dangerous behaviour in any case.
@@johannesmajamaki2626 They have average speed cameras on the A9 between Dunblane and Perth and it's perfect. People stick to the speed limits and it's just a more comfortable drive.
You are absolutely right. Awful driving culture was imported with the divine diversity.
@@libanabdi2253 Comfortable alright, constantly looking down checking your speed to see if your just creeping over the limit without realising it, constantly taking your eyes of the road looking down at the speedometer.
Dangerous in itself and spoiling your driving enjoyment too.
@@1066gaz really? Just don't drive harder than the cars in front of you and you won't have to micromanage the speed
And yet I can guarantee I'll see at least 6 drivers a day, every day on their phones whilst stuck in traffic or at traffic lights. They just cannot leave the things alone.
How about the number of police that you see do exactly that? Its a tool that's made tools of us all
I know it won't happen, but I'd like to see them get a 5 year phone ban
and your so perfect
Drive in the US and you'll be lucky if you see 6 drivers NOT on their phone.
Good info thank you.
I'd like to share this if I may.
I went to court several years ago after witnessing the driver behind me destroy a caravan and car which was parked on a grass verge with a flat tyre.
A woman who was between the car and caravan was killed. I was with her until she took her last breath. Her husband suffered injuries also. The driver who caused it admitted that he was fixing the removeable controls onto his radio when he hit the caravan, he was travelling at approximately 60mph.
The judge gave him a ÂŁ1,200 fine, no jail time. I don't remember if he was banned. Mitigation that he was an Captain in the British Army may have had some bearing on that.
Judge ruled the death was caused by "a temporary lapse in concentration. Had it been a prolonged lapse of concentration the punishment would have been more severe"
About 10 years have passed since and this still bothers me. The woman lost her life. Does it really matter how long the lapse in concentration was?
I doubt I'll ever understand this decision. There was no appeal.
I would have thought it took more than a temporary lapse in concentration to actually leave the road onto a grass verge..
If it wasn't completely on the verge, it should have been seen and allowed for from far enough away for it to take more than a temporary lapse.
I know someone who was done for drink driving while asleep in the back seat of his car. He chose to sleep in the car in January after a night out to avoid driving drunk but started it since it was freezing.
I imagine next time he'll just drive home drunk.
Some laws are just stupid.
Minor point - the 5,000 fine became an unlimited fine a few years ago as did all other L5 fines.
In Alberta here we have similar points for distracted driving. Also for speeding here if you are doing in excess of 50kph over the speed limit it is an automatic court appearance .
Anything the government can think of is turned into a penalty. Many years ago I parked at a meter in London but did not have enough change for the time I wanted so I put ÂŁ1 into the meter. Luckily I was parked outside a post office so I went in to change a ÂŁ5 note. I came out 10 minutes later and put another ÂŁ4 into the meter and went to my meeting. I got back to my car 2 hours later and was surprised to find a parking ticket on my windscreen. The meter had not expired but the ticket said 'meter feeding'. I had never heard of this but apparently leaving a gap between putting money into a meter is illegal. I never saw the traffic warden but there must have been one skulking about. To this day I fail to see how spreading the payment for a parking space over a 10 minute period is a parking offence. What a scam.
Writing as a retired police officer We certainly used to take the manner of driving into consideration on whether to issue a FPN or just to have a word with the driver. Whilst speed is a very important factor how the vehicle is being driven is a big consideration.
I was once stopped for rounding a roundabout on two wheels of a very large Peugeot estate car, and the police very sportingly let me off because I was 'late for church' - it was Sunday am. I was very shamefaced too.
Never ceases to amaze me just how many of the pathetic young idiots on the tv police documentaries drive horrifically, smashing in to cars and property, driving wrong way along roads but get let off as ânot enough evidenceâ, how much evidence is needed when a camera crew is following???
As for undertaking, I live very close to a 4 lane motorway, there are so many people of both sexes that think itâs ok to pick a lane and never leave it, this often turns a 4 lane motorway in to a two lane road and in some cases a single track road when the idiot decides they want to stay in the 4th lane đĄđĄđĄđ€Ź
Thanks you have open my eyes to laws that I was not aware off. Thank you for all your help in understanding these Laws đđ
Thanks for watching!
What about police officers in a marked vehicles having a drink whilst driving
As someone who has at times changed a cd while driving, I have learned to do it by touch so that I can keep my eyes on the road at all times. I will also not take my hand off the steering wheel unless I am on a straight road with a good view ahead. Town driving requires more concentration, so I might pull over to change the cd if I am in town. I expect policemen develop similar habits that mean they can take a swig of a drink without it being careless.
Police officers are sovereign citizens, the law doesn't apply to them, it's right when its them doing wrong... everyone knows that. đ€Ł
Takes me back to the 80's when I was hanging out at a local and a panda pulled up and two officers got out, went into the pub and came out with a pint each, sat on the bonnet of said panda and chatted to me and my mates for the duration of their pints. Proper coppers. Happy days.
@@tlangdon12 If you have a Jaaag like mine from the nineties it has a 5 cd changer and you just touch the button on the steering wheel if said cd is not what your ears are interested in.
@@philt5782
I use music players on my phone connected to the car player via Bluetooth (not while driving). I've set it to repeat album and, for longer journeys I've created a number of playlists. I decide which album or playlist I want to listen to in advance. Job done.
If you can be charged for drinking from a bottle of water while your car is not even moving, why have they not banned cup holders in cars?
I don't think many people realise that 12 points often doesn't result in an automatic driving ban. You have the right to appeal to the Magistrate that a ban would cause disproportionate harm. So losing your job and being unable to take children to school would qualify. Magistrates are usually very open to listening to these arguments.
Too open, to my mind if the use of your car is essential to you, you should be more careful.
@@grahvis I agree, I believe it was brought in for "exceptional circumstances" but is now almost becoming the norm.
Taxis can take your kids to school
@@jonathanclarke4529 Yep, I heard recently there's someone out there with 100 plus points still driving. What's the point of points if that's allowed to happen.
I think most of the thought that you can drive at 10% over the speed limit comes from the type approval regulations.
They state that the speedometer:
1) must not read less than the actual true speed, and
2) can read up to 10% + 6.25mph high.
Sat nav speed readings in any car I've owned show they mostly read about 5%-10% high (the tyre condition and wheel size also change the accuracy). This means most cars indicating a speed just over the speed limit, will probably actually be just under.
I suspect the police guidance has more to do with being able to say the driver should have been aware of the error if he was paying attention rather than an allowance for speeding.
I also suspect that if you annoy the nice traffic officer, 1mph over the limit will be sufficient for them to stop you and see what actual condition of your car is, and there are enough regulations that many cars will have some minor fault.
The only video of its type on CZcams, and actually the video I was looking for! Thank you! I just passed my test, hope to not do any of these
Charge: Driving without insurance
Result: not in the public interest
Hereâs an interesting one for you!
I think youâll like itâŠ
When I was 19 I got an email from my bank, direct debit returned âABC car insuranceâ
My first DD with that company, I had asked for first of the month. This was mid month. Moved money into my bills account and call to make payment.
Operator refused payment by card for that monthly instalment. Iâll have to wait till they reattempt the DD in 7 days.
And I will get charged for the retuned DDâŠ
Ok, Iâd like to pay off my credit account in full!
Again, refuses to take payment
Puts her on speak, gets friends phone video recorded the conversation asked for info (read as evidence)
Hangs up, calls bank, cancels DD
Letter next month, bill, charge, etc
Calls and informs them Iâm payed up and owe them nothing. As they refused to settle my credit account in full when asked. Back and forth, had a law student friend write them a letter⊠Eventually they accept.
And the next month I get stoped by the police because they cancelled my insurance.
In the back of the police car I show the officers the correspondence (emails) and called the incident line and the operator confirmed my insurance had been cancelled a couple of days before for non payment.
Officer told me it would still be submitted to the procurator fiscal as they canât decide to let me off mow that they have booked me. So I had one them write out an incident report, from their point of view in the little black book and I signed it as did the other officer then I took a photo of it.
I got a letter saying it wasnât âin public interestâand a hand written unsigned post-it note attached, saying âif insurance is considered paid in full and they cancelled it, youâre due a refund for the policy in full, good luckâ
I eventually got an ÂŁ800 refund and only paid ÂŁ150
Ok, that was a long one⊠I also have a belter story about a little old lady accusing me of dangerous driving before promptly talking me out of the chargeâŠ
Iâll paraphrase this one. I lost control of my sports car while overtaking her (new alloys free cheap tires not suitable for sports car and Scottish weather conditions)
Iâm in a field on the phone to insurance then I hear the little old lady telling the female officer I was speeding, flew past herâŠ
I walked over âofficer! Sheâs absolutely correct! The lady was doing 30 I accelerate past her at 40-45 mphâ
Old woman âmaybe even 50!!!â
Me âyeah! Maybe even 50!â
Officer âmiss you realise this is a 60 mph road?â
Good story of Police being reasonable!
@@BlackBeltBarrister I have to admit, 99% of my contact has been positive. Negative contact has been the result of defending foster children. Also my wife worked with the dog branch. Thatâs a story too⊠and is my run in With the armed response!
Tell you what, next time Iâm back in London (I assume that youâre gaffe), Iâll let you buy me a beer and you can Hoare out my stories for content (permission granted, Libra)
To be fare Iâve made a few posts and by now you must be thinking⊠THIS GUY⊠AGAIN!
With another tall tale!
This is why youâre gonna buy me a pint, not cause I tell crazy stories, cause you want to hear it and call bullshit!
If Iâm lying!
Great video, everyone could do with watching this, especially with the driving I see in Birmingham đ
I guess we just all need to just relax and drive like we were taught đđ»
Some weren't taught........so many without licence/tax/insurance. They are not the ones watching these videos eitherđł
But we don't that's life.
There are many people driving in this Country with many more than 12 points on there driving license I think someone has 46 points and is still driving around. Itâs down to the Magistrate you are put in front of.
I found this subject very interesting particularly the tolerance or margins of âdiscretionâ as most vehicles have only incremental markings on the speedometer of ten miles an hour with a smaller mark to indicate 5 miles an hour, I drive two vehicles, both are German both have similar speed markings, now particularly taller drivers and More noticeable in my VW camper, the angle of your head (which could appear slightly differently to glasses wearers) can seemingly make quite a difference at least probably two miles an hour two the indicated speed, which is why most vehicles Slightly over read the indicated speed,. Personally Iâd like to see legislation more proactive towards people harassing drivers within legal limits ie, the majority of people seem to think that as for most vehicles the motorway limit is 70, then they feel that if your driving within that then itâs ok to flash beep, or undertake people driving legally
Youâd make a better impression if youâd avoid trying to impress by using 18th century headgear. I write of course as a solicitor.
I personally like to uphold the traditions and it helps to maintain a formality in the courts.
@@BlackBeltBarrister the courts have changed and adapted perhaps more than you have I fear.
You can generally ignore the maximum fines. Fines are usually based on a multiple of your weekly income.
There's a built in assumption when you pass your theory then practical test that you should be able to recognise when you are fit to drive and then, by extension, when you are not fit.
If you're driving a lorry or bus the fines are higher because they know you are earning money from your activity and they want a piece of the action.
Being done for 32mph is utterly ridiculous and so petty!
Braking from 30 mph to a stop. Then brake from 32mph to a stop. The impact speed of 11 mph. Yeah its so ridiculous and petty............ 31 to a stop is an impact speed of 7.8mph.
@@nickolasreeks4743 So weâre in agreement. I canât see any copper doing anyone for such a minor breach of the speed limit. Theyâd feel stupid. And cameras donât catch drivers either. If someoneâs doing 40+ fair enough! But again it depends where and when.
Itâs such a shame once your have a vrm your a cash cow. But the local chav nicked a bike they turn a blind eye
Thanks for the info my friend it would appear that I have been let off by certain scenarios for instance due to dispatch but after this golden nugget no more drinking soft drinks whilst driving, very useful information and by the way all information in this comment is totally fictitious and bears no resemblance to any person past or present đ
Dear Mr BlackBeltBarrister, please could you take a look at the new Police, Crime, Sentencing and Court Bill, which is likely to become law soon. It contains joys such as 10 years imprisonment for being a nuisance.
You can not guarantee the the accuracy of the Speedo in your vehicle and there is no way to calibrate your Speedo this can change with wheel size, tyre wear and pressure
True. However, by law, all speedometers should indicate a speed higher than the actual speed of the vehicle. This accounts for these variables, and ensures that for you to exceed a set limit, it will be blatantly obvious that you're doing so. That's why you have to be careful when changing wheels or tyres to sizes outside of spec..
Yes but only if kept in spec but not a lot people know this đ
The Government should pay you for informing the public about legal matters!
BBB, Thank you for providing me with a good chuckle at the folk posting stuff in response to your excellent Video. The level of ignorance is often breath taking.
speeding is very odd thing to measure accurately, your speedometer may not be calibrated or the device measuring your speed also, even something such as different tyre profiles can cause your speedometer to display an incorrect reading
In my country, South Africa, the instructions accompanying many medications warn users against driving or operating machinery while taking such medications.
All good info BBB, Thank you. There is a youtube channel, ( Car Focused ) run by a police officer ( Now ex copper ) speeding, filming while driving, doing doughnuts in middle of road. I suppose its fine to flash a warrant card, not if your a member of the public though.
I like the clarity of your English
Thanks
There should be an allowance for speeding offences as a car's speedometer is only ever calibrated once and that is on the production line. Apparently, the construction and use act makes an allowance on this because a car with under/over-inflated tyres changed wheel size or even just age can cause a speedometer go give a reading that is not accurate.
you can calibrate your speedo if you know of a local speed check that shows your speed , my speedo at 30 reads 28 according to my local speed checker , it gives me a smile until I do 33
@@patthewoodboy If you think you can calibrate your speedo by using these gimmicky speed smileys you are very mistaken, they are NEVER correct.
Why do so many cars now have touch screens which require you to take your eyes off the road for example to change a heater demister setting?
It would seem the only legally safe way to operate such controls would be to park the car.
Surely car manufacturers must take responsibility for reduced safety in their duty of care.
You do grow muscle memory for it over time, as well as an ability to comprehend where you are in the menu based on peripheral vision or the very occasional quick glance alone. Heck of a learning curve though
You take your eyes off the road when checking your side view or rear view mirrors too. Must car manufacturers take responsibility for reduced safety in their duty of care. I think you're going a bit overboard and exaggeration with that comment.
@@billyporter1389 Sorry you missed the point, a rear view mirror is in line of sight.
Secondary controls such as heater, wipers etc should be located and operated by position and touch and should not detract from the primary function of driving the car.
Ralph Naderâs book â Unsafe at Any Speedâ hit the nail on the head about primary and secondary vehicle safety and for a while the motor industry responded.
After 50 or so years since it was written primary safety is much better but manufacturers have lost the plot with secondary safety because there are more options and facilities and they are now software based for cheapness.
For example a touch screen is fine for working in an office or the home when you can focus and read the options on it but if you are presented with a screen out of line of sight which requires you to set by position and touch different temperatures you want to set for the driver, front and rear passengers it is becoming dangerous.
Sorry I DO think manufacturers have a duty of care to provide an old fashioned knob instead to avoid distracting drivers.
Have a great day đ
Great video⊠to the point ! Can you tell us what actions you personally take in respect of your videos when laws, punishments and Highway Code changes become apparent so there is little chance of ambiguity or mis-information ?!
What iâd like to know is why people drive like absolute idiots in bad weather apart from that
I have to go court for speeding even though it wasnât my car and the number plate in the photos is not the same as the number plate on my car
And the offences happened on the same stretch of road 4 days apart, i have provided proof of the differences between the car in the photo and my car and proof that I wasnât out on the days it happened and still the police are taking me to court , some times you donât even have to commit a driving offence to get prosecuted for it
A concise and a useful update, thanks!
Almost every car these days has 'hands free' tech. eg. Apple/Android Car Play.
Is it legal to take calls using that?
If someone has to undertake you then the person who was undertook should be the person in the sights for driving without due care or attention. If you're not driving fast enough for the outside lane, get out of it.
You don't HAVE to 'undertake'. that is a personal choice of the driver who is undertaking.
The driver you are 'undertaking' could reasonably be charged with the offence of 'Causing or Permitting'. This is when a drivers behaviour causes another to for example 'undertake' and the driver that caused this action could be guilty of the offence of Causing or Permitting............. complicated game with VERY complicated rules.
@@nickolasreeks4743 When proper use of the road is impeded by someone you would have to be an amoeba to sit there behind them instead of passing them as able and continuing with your journey.
But, at least as it stands, the road rules reflect what I posted.
@@illegalopinions4082 the police and magistrates will advise you otherwise but hey, you do it your way.
The undertaker is in the wrong but so is the slow driver in the overtaking lane , your only suposed to be in the fast lane if your over taking
@@djscottdog1 What offence would the undertaking driver be committing?
Brilliant video this one. Had no idea of the severity of some of the punishments for driving offences.
Thanks for watching!
Using a handheld mobile phone. The government are playing at trying to get car drivers to stop doing this with the penalties available. If they treated everyone the way they treat HGV/PCV licence holders with up to ÂŁ2500 fines they might have more success.
Six points is pretty hefty.
The problem is that the higher the penalty, the more likely people are to contest it. That means that more and more court time is taken up with it so that, in the end, fewer are actually dealt-with.
In the days of three points, far more people accepted that and didn't contest it (it was the same as a speeding ticket), so many more people were dealt with overall. In addition, police officers are far more likely to just advise someone if the penalty is higher - putting six points on someone's licence and potentially losing them their job is quite a step to take, and one that most police officers don't take lightly.
The number of fixed penalties given for the offence has dropped by about 40% since the penalty was raised. That's not because fewer people are on their phones whilst driving, but for the reasons I've mentioned.
@@robertstallard7836 It's not about justice or the law it's all about revenue for the government. they are quite happy for people just to pay the fine ( more money for the gov)
@@ronniebrown6225 You've defeated your own argument.
The number of fixed penalties given for the offence has DROPPED by about 40% since the penalty was raised to six points and a ÂŁ200 fine.
If it was purely about revenue, then much more would have come in had they not raised it!
Can you do a more in depth video on undertaking, there are a lot of lorry drivers on TikTok saying it is not illegal. And that it's the car that causes you to undertake that is at fault
What depth do you need to understand that driving up the inside of someone is illegal? Will the lorry drivers fight your case in court?
"Undertaking" is not intrinsically illegal.
However, like any maneouver, if you do it dangerously then you can be charged for it.
@@squicker I could not say it better. well thought out and well written. thank you.
Undertaking can be considered as careless driving when it falls outside the exceptions as stated within the Highway Code.
The 10% plus 2 rule only came into being because back in the day car speedo's were up to 10% or more incorrectly reading and this applied to police vehicles as much as those they were pacing so it was a bit of fast maths that averaged out about right taking in account the errors on both vehicles. My classic car's speedo is about 10 percent out but rather it shows me going faster than I actually am so to be on the ball I just stick to limites knowing I am a little under the readout speed. Modern car speedo's are super accurate in comparison thus why there is less forgiveness in that regard as the error returned is at most about 1%.
@watson Modern car speedo's are super accurate is rubbish. all cars use the same method. revolution of the drive wheels. if your wheels are to small the speedo will over report your speed. if your wheels are to big the speedo will under report. it all depends on diameter.
when is it legal to use a phone when in the driving seat of a car? I have heard people say it is if the ignition is off or there is no key in it, but lots of modern cars have start/stop engines and keyless ignition
Drunk in charge is total rubbish. They do this so they don't have to bother waiting for the person to leave the pub and they can still get their quota in by charging someone unfairly just because they parked in the car park, got drunk and decided to leave the car there. A classic case where being sensible still gets you points and a fine. Another scenario are people who live in motorhomes, park up for the night and drink a beer. If they are going to ruin someone's life they should at least wait and see if they actually commit an offence instead of just going after someone innocent then just leaving.
Be good to see more coppers on the road and less speed Cameras. That would make people think more and not penalise folk who just accidentally wonder over the speed limit and get hammered with a fine and points. I know speeding is wrong, but there is speeding and SPEEDING. Getting caught doing 33 in a 30 should just be a speed awareness course or a few words from a copper. 50 in a 30 should be a years ban in my humble opinion.
Having had to do a speed awareness course after being caught doing 36 in a 30 I've changed my habits. Such as using the speed limiter on cruise control and staying in 3rd when in a 30.
I did one of those awareness courses, and I found it excellent.
I absolutely agree that visible policing is needed. Over the last 10 years or so, the standard of police driving has deteriorated, and also the number of police traffic cars has shrunk. I used to admire the police traffic drivers for their skill and judgment, sadly now I consider their driving to be of a low standard. I blame too many Traffic Cop reality TV programs, that have idolised police traffic drivers incorrectly.
The other issue is one of officer discretion. My experience as a bad driver whilst I was younger, is that Traffic officers were much more likely to offer advice. Now it is a numbers game, so every stop seems to have to generate a ticket, maybe they are trying to hit targets.
All too often the police attend when things go badly wrong, but it seems now that they are rarely present to deter bad driving in the first place.
Does accelerating quickly count as dangerous driving? If for example I'm merging a motorway from standstill and go from 0-60 in 4 seconds?
It depends on all the circumstanes
I heard from a friend years ago that car speedometers are set roughly 3 mph over the actual speed. Dash cams seem to collaborate this
I have noticed that this deliberate over estimation is uncommon now. It used to be well known that Vauxhall added 10%. So at 70mph on the display, you were probably doing 63mph! My own car is almost perfectly calibrated. 1mph difference at most.
For a driving offence, If the courts claim they made an error and did not complete an order/decision, can they after 12yrs with all paper records destroyed enforce that incomplete order without a explanation or court hearing??.
Excellent video. As a cyclist I am well aware of the mobile phone laws and points system and it is amazing how many motorists don't have a clue. Being in volunteer in road safety we record vehicles 10 percent plus 2, and drivers who do this regularly will get a police letter than enforcement if they still do it
It's the sheriff court in Scotland.
I've received 2 separate ÂŁ100 fines for not wearing a seatbelt. I don't have ÂŁ200, i've requested photographic evidence of me allegedly not wearing the seatbelt but haven't received it yet. Can't find any info on here in regards to seatbelt offences. Can anyone recommend a video with info?
After watching this video I'm surprised I still have my license after 20 years of driving.
lol
Might be down the fact that thereâs barely a cop on the road these days
@@_Ali. lol
Consider getting a camel. It will think and avoid obstacles on your behalf. By any chance, did you come from a country where camels are the main form of transport?
Every single day I see many actually FaceTiming while driving, plus many more absolutely insane stuff while out and aboutâŠ
Thanks for the advice so I can stay safe while driving
Just a suggestion-
Would it not be best-business-practice to design your own id?
1-your photograph with the words, :with the likeness of the original: written on it
2-your postal contact details, with the words :in-the-private: written on it
3-your telephone number, with the words :for emergency use only: written on it
4- For the confirmation of our date-of-birth is with our mother and we have no
knowledge of our date-of-berth
The reason they want you to use `official` id is, because when you do, you are identifying yourself as a government employee and bullying you to UNDERstand the inferior authority of your trustees/public-servants whom are with nothing but the PRESUMPTION that you are under their statutes/by-laws/ordinances/rules & regulation/terms & conditions of THEIR employment.
Just a (business) suggestion.
You havenât put the list up of Medicines that can be classed in drug drivingâŠ.!?!?
Thanks for reminding me, I will do so
I just googled the list.
@@sahhull www.gov.uk/drug-driving-law
@@BlackBeltBarrister , Many thanks đđ»đ
I saw a woman driving with one hand while leaning down getting large bottle and take a long swig from it, she wasn't looking at the road!!
Using a mobile phone whilst driving is lowest of the low to me because it is done intentionally with total disregard for everyone else. On Monday, I was crossing a mini island near me. I had already reached the centre when a woman (clearly Using a mobile phone - hand up to ear) came speeding from my left and literally drove *over* the island - not slowing down, let alone stopping. If I had been driving any faster, it wouldn't have ended well (certainly not for her, I have a dash cam).
It happens it called life.
@@millomweb The statistics will disagree with you. I hope you get caught soon, and that you don't kill someone else before you do get caught.
@@millomweb
Forget Statistics. I've seen videos that prove otherwise.
@@mrlover4310
Let's see if you think the same when your child is run over and killed bya dangerous driver.
@@ianl1052 well I wouldn't want that to happen to no one's child we live in a world where people don't always follow the rules. In Saudi Arabia if you get caught selling your body you are taken and stone people to death on a daily basis prostitution is never going to be stopped no matter what the punishment. People will always be on their phone while driving.
If you are stopped by the police for a traffic offence, are you required by law to sit in the police car?
No.
Good pragmatic advice for hand-held devices. Are we ok with hands-free using the carâs inbuilt microphone and speakers?
How come you never hear of people being charged with reckless driving anymore? When you see those police chases on TV, they're pretty much always driving recklessly.
And is there still the offence of "Racing on the public highway"? I seem to recall it used to carry a 10 year ban and unlimited fine.
It's a matter of proof. It's much easier, and cheaper, and saves court time, to get convictions for lesser offences. A defendant will often accept a guilty plea for Careless Driving, when he would contest a more serious charge and waste everybody's time.
Can you do a video on dog attacks? From point of view of dog owner with dog off lead! In area where there is a council bylaw saying it should be on lead. However, there was no one about so let dog off.
Not talked about driving without insurance.
A situation where an individual was charged with driving without insurance in a scenario where this person was on a third party insurance while doing business Instead of a business.
Most using phones seem to be the younger drivers that have just passed their test (or have they) SO they should know better as it is fresh in their minds. Not the case, I see so many every day. They may be sat behind you while sat at lights, so they use the phone. I stay still even when the lights change to green & they have no idea as they are only looking at their phone with 1/4 eye on my car. I then drive off & they sit there holding traffic up. FED up with them. Van driver phone on steering wheel texting while driving. Speed cameras đ€ we need phone cameras the catch phone users. I even sent photos of a women who drove by my home daily on the phone, but Police said if she said she was stationary we could not do her.........they are not interested đł I sent photos of her on phone/drinking even no hands on wheel. đźđ»ââïžStandard have dropped in society we are doomed đ
Check out "cyclingmikey" here on CZcams - he films hundreds of phone users in London, and gets a lot of prosecutions when he sends the footage to the Met. Many of them are sat in queueing traffic
Young people get stopped by the police driving all the time.
I'm to old to speed! Thankyou for sharing very interesting,
Too bad the courts love to make a mockery of these offences. Some of these punishments handed down are ridiculous đ
Can you make a video on offences altering or obscuring your number plate.
there are video's all over the place showing police breaking these rules, but that's ok
Drunk in charge of vehicle even counts it you are sleeping it off in the car/lorry with the keys either in your possession or in the ignition (perhaps because you need the engine running to stay warm).
Is it possible to give an explanation of what is required of you if pulled over by the police? Do you need to get into the police car, give information as to where you are travelling to/from, even speak to them, could you just sit in the car and hold your licence to the window and not interact with them? Thanks.
Assuming you have not committed any offences and you are the driver, the basic things that are/can be required from you are:
1. production of your driving licence so your name and address can be established, you must state your date of birth (Section 164 RTA)
2. your name and address (as this may differ from what's on your driving licence, although it shouldn't), the same for the owner of the vehicle (as this may differ from the driver) and your certificate of insurance. (Section 165 RTA)
These will generally require you to communicate with the officer in some way. You are not required to get out of your vehicle and you are not required to get into the police car.
This may change if you are suspected of committing any offences. You may be cautioned and then asked some simple questions that are relevant to establishing if the offence is made out. For example, if you have no MOT, where you are going needs to be established. The nature of your journey needs to be known to establish if your insurance covers you for that class of use. If you were seen with a mobile phone in your hand, it needs to be established what you were using it for. You do not have to answer these questions, but as the caution makes clear, failure to answer them may have adverse consequences for you.
Similarly, when you are stopped by police and you are not under arrest you are free to leave. However, there may again be adverse consequences for you in doing this. If leaving obstructs the officer in his lawful duty (e.g. he is seizing your car for no insurance and you drive off), then you are committing an offence. It's worth noting that police do not need a reason to require you to pull over.
If you are issued a ticket, the police have the power to take your photograph (Section 64A PACE).
Certain officers are authorised to inspect your vehicle. This includes the inspection of the interior of your vehicle and for you to comply with their instructions. They may also driver your vehicle to test it. (Section 67 RTA).
A separate authorisation may also be used to compel you to drive to a weigh station to weigh your vehicle (Section 78 RTA).
If you are detained for a search (Section 1 PACE or Section 23 Misuse of Drugs Act) you will be required to get out of the car. You may be handcuffed.
You may effectively be detained under certain circumstances in order to provide a preliminary roadside breath/saliva test (Section 6 RTA).
If you are arrested, obviously you have to get out of the car. If you are suspected of an offence (even a minor traffic offence) and your name and/or address cannot be satisfactorily established at the roadside, this can constitute a necessity for your arrest (Code G of PACE).
Some powers are dependent on police wearing uniform.
If you are involved in an RTC you are required to give your name, address and vehicle registration and the name and address of the vehicle's registered keeper. Failure to do so is an offence. (Section 170 RTA)
Under Section 172 RTA you may be required to provide the details of the person driving a vehicle at a particular date/time/location if it is considered that you might reasonably know who the driver was, e.g. if you are in a crash, there were three people in your car, and the police turn up and want to know who the driver was. Failure to comply is an offence (which usually carries six points and catches a surprising number of people out).
Undertaking is not classed as careless driving. If it was it would be illegal.
Driving with a-cast your arm is â due to a person having broken it â also I believe illegal as the insurance is void.
Dangerous driving needs two police officers to get a conviction as one officer has to be independent
Am I right in thinking that, even without a tolerance for speeding, if the recorded margin above the limit is so minimal, a prosecution would be difficult given the need to establish the offence beyond reasonable doubt?
Hi
I was driving i hit a pedestrian there were in the rd I had a blind spot but the camera court me what will happen there got minor injuries
Y'know for a moment I thought the video was about the England game from
the other night as upon first seeing the title it looked like "Diving" Penalties.
Wearing a loud shirt, breathing heavily, listening to Abba and being an accountant soon to be added to the list of offences! Gotta make that covid money back somehow!
Hi, how do they determine the level of cannabis in your system and Whether you are unfit to drive?
Obviously cannabis stays in the system for a certain amount of time but does not affect your driving.
Im a Uber driver recently I got stopped for touching my phone and might get find of 6 point and I didnât agree the say I might go to courts but I donât have any prove either the police so would the court give me still 6 points
I have a question for you. What if a lorry driver is on a night out sleeping in his cab in a lay-by or truck stop or motorway services and is taking his legal required overnight driver hours break. He decides to have a few cans of lager. Whilst he is on this required rest, and knowing that by the time he intends to drive again many hours later, knowing at that time he will not be under the effect of drink, can a police officer require him to give a breath sample (ie during his required rest period) ? and does the keys in the ignition have any effect on the rule of being in charge of a vehicle ? I used to be a truck driver for many years and this possible scenario has always been a interesting topic.
I bet he hasnt answered because every area you mention demands a different response, but has to consider the 90's act that made the Road traffic Act apply to anywhere that vehicles and the public come into contact whether on private or public land and until there is a test case , anywhere, as someone who used to advise from a risk point is dont be the first to be tested,,,
Thanks for the information well appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative thank you. One question, does death by dangerous driving now carry a life sentence?, I thought there was a change at some point recently?.
Civil law does not apply to human beings unless through contract.
Criminal law only applies if there is harm done and a victim.
i think to get your license back if your band in the first 2 years and extended diving test is needed to get your license back
New Driver Act 1995
On a similar subject. Near where I live there are children riding horses while on their phone.
A horse is generally in control itself when you are riding it though, you may be guiding it on which direction you want it to go but it can think independently and move out of the way of/stop for an impact with something, so I can't imagine that a horse would be considered in any way like a car.
@@millomweb a conscious animal is not the same as an inanimate object. A horse can get scared and freak out of its own accord and not be your fault and be out of your control. A car is solely controlled by you so i don't think I am mate. All I said was i can't see law treating/considering a horse like a car.
@@millomweb it's nowhere near the same though is it, a person driving a car on ice has made a conscious decision to drive on that ice/or in icey conditions, so absolutely the driver is liable as they have actively chosen to do so, but a horse isn't in that league of control as once again it can act independently out of the riders control whereas a car can not. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.. you can make a car do whatever you control it to do at all times.. I get that they might be treated similarly but similar is not the same, that very word implies difference.
Just found your channel and I find it very informative.
I have a question. I am disabled and use an adapted car. I also take high levels of analgesic. DVLA are aware of both and have given me the right to drive my car as my body uses the analgesia to enable me to maintain a lead as independent life as possible. I stick to speed limits because of the high level equipment my car carries on a daily basisâŠ.this also increases my breaking distance. If I was stopped does all of this get flagged by the police. This has always worried me because although I regularly take defensive and advanced driving lessons where do I and many people like me stand, particularly as like many I rely on such analgesia to drive and maintain my independence to a reasonable degree. Without such analgesia I would be housebound and possibly bedbound.
i had a problem i had a crash went into a sign when i pulled over because my blood sugars went low so was charged with dangerous driving got convicted had community service and fine a while later it was found i had been diagnosed and given twice as much insulin as i needed at time i was on 18ml after correction i know take 7ml i tried to ask court if anything could be done and they have no interest just tough luck get on with it
If a GP has recorded something on your medical records which is incorrect and have then said you should not drive. What can you do to change this. Also would the dvla or police be able to take action?
You can ask them to add a note of correction
@@BlackBeltBarrister , Thank you I will attempt this I have phoned countless legal professionals, since 1st July and had no meaningful answers. This has left me a prisoner in my own home. as the Physio has been on sick for 3 moths and the original GP I spoke to in March has left the practice
Interesting, but what are the standards of proof required to be presented to the court by the police, for careless or dangerous driving?
Interestingly enough, I'm just presenting such a case!
Can I ask, got pulled this morning 44 in a 30 I did think the road was 40 but apparently it 30. I was given no ticket or paper work and officer said I was doing 40/45 miles but showed no evidence.
Why is alcohol not treated as a drug that it is?
Question - if you drive along a road and 5 cameras take pictures of you speeding.... not happened to me but as cameras dont actually stop you it seems different to being stopped by a police officer.
On another topic. Is it legal for banks or building societies to stop you paying someone or transfering money to say Binance ? AFTER ALL, IT IS YOUR MONEY #hot topic at the moment.
I would love to hear your advice.
What if your car has cruise control? That is basically semi-automatic which gives you more time to re-act. Seems like the Police have almost unlimited power and it might be difficult to prove your innocence
My car has adaptive cruise control and "Pilot assist" as well. BUT - it is still me in charge of the car, and as the driver, I am the one responsible, and therefore must stay fully alert and in full control at all times. I think your passengers and other road users would expect that of you.
Please do a video about train ticket fines?
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What is the law on Harassment. Please ??
Hi, I have lost some penalty points while i'm driving car!
is that effect to my motorcycle licence,
can you still be found drunk in charge of a bicycle?
There's such offence. If the police pursue this line of enquiry say nothing, they can't make you take a breath or blood test either.
@@mrjoneseastend thank you. Just curious.
Yes, i know someone who was charged with such an offence on the 70s!
@Protista protista My (now deceased) friend decided to cycle home from the pub in Dingwall, Scotland, late one evening in 1974. He had no lights on, was veering all over the road, and a police car pulled up alongside him at the traffic lights - he then keeled over and landed against their car. I have a copy of the paperwork he was issued with, after he was charged. It says something like "drunk in charge of a pedal cycle" and he was fined around ÂŁ2. I remember him telling me that the cops said it was the firrst such charge in the county for many decades, and he was rather proud of that, and displayed the paperwork on his wall until he died.
Yes most definitely. I got a night in the cells and charged with it. I was very very pi$$ed though
What constitutes a mobile communications device, a mobile phone is what most people think of but what about a CB radio or a PMR (private mobile radio) as used by taxis and police or for that matter armature radio operators. As I understand it as a licensed radio operator I am allowed to use the radio whilst driving. But if using it distracts from my driving the police could pull me over and charge me with driving without due care and attention, something they would have to prove. I don't use radio mobile as most PC's cannot tell a radio from a mobile phone despite them having them and using them in their cars. Just saying mobile communication device in a law leaves it rather open for abuse by officials after all they could find two flags on the seat next to you and charge you with having a mobile communication device name semaphore flags, I often wonder if some laws are deliberately vague in order to allow for use in such a way that a person can be charged with an offence when there is not one in order get an inconvenient person convicted. MI6 certainly did that with Richard Tomlinson .
You will find there specific frequencies in the law, all of which are in the mobile phone bands. PMR, marine and amature radio are certainly not in the listed frequencies
@@dessilverson161 I know that,I have converted police radios in the past to use myself they are still a PMR style radio and I used PMR just to save typing etc.
very helpful thanks!