Northern Marine 57 Test Video 2022 by BoatTEST.com
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- The Northern Marine 57 is in a size range that will make her appealing to owner/operators wanting to stretch their legs. She’s designed to offer the same seaworthiness as her larger siblings but is not so large that she's difficult to manage and afford. Her reputation precedes her and we’re happy to have finally gotten aboard for a test.
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She is almost literally the perfect owner operator vessel.
Great video is always Captain. 👊🏻👌🏻
Thanks for watching!
I lived near Anacortes in the 1990s...the heyday of Northern Marine. They were a hard working bunch of dedicated craftsmen. I remember when Sorcha was completed. I was aboard her in Vancouver. Magnificent falls short of describing her. I hope they are successful with their restart. A great American yard with a proud history.
This would be perfect. Excellent fuel economy. Beautifully built.
I'll admit - I'm not a fan of single engine boats...never have been since I was on one when the engine died 80 miles offshore. That said, with the generator option on this one, that is a thing of the past. Nick from Aquaholic puts it best; the is a proper little ship. I truly like this one!
I like the generator powered get home feature. Another main engine with separate fuel source and electrical components would be ideal in a "go anywhere" boat. Also, for an owner operated craft, a remote helm control would be handy.
Thanks again, Steve, for a fantastic review of a beautiful yacht!!
Thanks for watching!
‘It will only happen once’ Haha, so true. Some boats put in handles that stand out further
Beautiful trawler and as always perfectly presented by you.
Wonderful boat! Very nice look!
So this is my dream boat as of now. I know it will never happen, however I still dream. In this short video. I didn't see anything that made me turn and run. What a boat. I've never been jealous with people that can buy this kind of boat.
I envy a lot.
WOW what a yacht here 2 me looks like Top of the Line !! Good performance and Beautiful most important BRAND NEW !! Have Fun and B Safe !!
What a very good job explaining certain things on the boat. No wing
Engine. I also canceled my dream boat and would own this 57 sight on seen.
Almost the perfect boat for me. An anchor wash drain and emergency tiller can always be added. I would also add Some half doors in the pilot house to get a little air. Really the only issue for me personally is that I like little more power, preferably to get her up to at least 14 knots to outrun some storms or approaching weather.
What a beautiful boat.
There is a very similar yacht called “Seahorse” at Coal Harbour Marina in Vancouver. It’s a stunner in the flesh.
I found a Craigslist Ad for a 6.9 acre lot in North Vancouver in Indian Arm to the left of the Island. It's my dream to have this boat and that lot. 🙌😎
ATTENTION: Ladies, gentlemen, and children of all ages. What you are seeing in this beauty of a yacht is that she is more sea worthy than the Titanic! 😂😊
Wow , what a great looking yacht and very good range at a reasonable speed too. I hope you post the internal tour as well at some stage . I think this is my new favorite trawler yacht. On a side note , not having a second engine (but having a generator get you home in an emergency) would be a good cost saving as well as less maintance of second motor/transmission/seals /shaft and propeller and another through hull fitting that could go wrong. Thanks Captain Steve.
Beautiful.
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Again, thank you for this great advice Captain Steve.
The pain of that will hopefully get it to only happen once. But it is interesting how people can ignore safety things until it does cause an accident. Thank God that's just a minor thing though.
I remember in metalwork class in school, a few guys got away with got using eye protection at the bench drills...then it became a thing...then I felt a subconscious pressure to not wear the eye protection because who else was...then a kid had a peice of metal go into his eye and the teacher had just gotten back from the hospital or doctor, at the start of our class, and he told us the news...basically health and safety classes from my experience are just a list of does and dont's, followed by horror stories of what happened to men that ignored those rules. I agree with this. Some guys just needed a smack as a child, and didn't get it.
If you run generators why not use an electric motor on the shaft as a backup
It's an electric PTO ?
I love this boat. Living in California, this is my first choice to buy made so close to home.
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I love this alternative idea to a wing engine. Plus, I'm also thinking of the extra drag and engineering of installation of a secondary propeller shaft, and engine, as opposed to just one hole in the boat that needs to be completely water sealed, while also allowing the shift the spin as frictionless as possible...
...Which sounds like a contradiction in terms. As in water tight seal ruggedness verses as little friction as possible to reduce frictional losses.
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A very beautiful boat, but the lack of walking around is a big disadvantage. I'm willing to sacrifice the interior space, but give me a walk around!
A good review. As you state - quite often the 'get you home' wing engine may not have the capacity to get you to your destination, depending on the prevailing conditions. BUT- as for the 'availability/start on demand' - that is something that the sensible owner can assure (with significant load tests, not just start and stop). The ultimate redundancy for a 57ft would be twin engine, and suffer the slight reduction in propulsion efficiency on one engine. BUT - you know you can continue with the same cruising speed, with an (almost) total redundancy.
BOAT TEST AND CAPTAIN STEVE KEEP YOU THE GREat WORK IM LEARNING AND LIKE THIS SOW MUCH thanks sorry caps having eye trouble . keep them coming. thanks
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This is a beautiful boat. Also, thanks for the docking information Captain Steve.
This particular video of warm weather boating reminds me of the computer game Raft. It's recently had I think it's final chapter of the game, and this boat looks like it would fit right into that fun, family friendly type of cartoon-ish computer game adventure on the topical high seas.
Would have been curious to hear your opinions on wet exhaust vs dry stack.
Why 22% fuel and 30% water? should be 12% water and 40% fuel = A range of 6300nm at 8.3knots "My Dream boat"
Great boat!
You forgot that a wing engine has its own prop so that if the main prop is damaged or a shaft bearing fails , one will get home. A wing engine gives full redundancy. This doesn’t. You seem to forget you’ve tested nordhavns
I love the range on this thing. We are getting closer to deciding on a long range cruiser with true blue water capability. Thank you as always for the great detail on these videos, Capt. Steve!
If you buy a steel hull boat ask for eoncoat primer.
Antimicrobial and fire resistant plus no rust for 30 years
Handy crane. I'm also guess that it would be useful for loading heavier items like full sized natural gas bottles for a fly bridge grill and maybe divers breathing tanks, or whatever else you might want. I wonder about hauling in really big fish, like the more well know species of sharks?
Natural Gas bottles? you mean Propane (LPG)
@@paulvanvliet1289 I know that propane bottles exist, but I don't know if that's the same a natural gas. But you're probably right.
I think I have seen "Irish natural gas" bottles in the yard years ago. Presumably propane or I misremembered what I read. I don't really know. Sorry.
Wing engines usually run the hydraulic stern and bow drives and are used every time you take the boat out.
Exactly.
This video was trying to make this vessel outshine the Nordhaven but knowledgeable people like yourself find the errors/bias in the video.
Actually that could mean just a 15-30 min or less run on the wing every week so is liable to be damp and not fully warmed through when you shut it down. Far better to use the generator for the get you home.
@@simonmackie3481 Actually no.
As an engineer, I can assure you the thought process during the design phase thoughtfully considered the amount of engine runtime the wing engine was in operation. Nordhavn is a vessel designed Solely for ventures abroad in environments considered Hostile where pleasure or traditionally designed motor yachts would never entertain.
As such, Everything is designed with security /redundancy as their hallmark.
The wing engine is a Wholly separate means of propulsion that share No systems with the primary engine (fuel/electronics/prop-shaft or prop) such that any aforementioned components when fouled Would leave the “other” vessels stranded.
As to your comment about the generator being a preferred recovery option.
Imagine having to rely on a Generator and its ancillary systems (e.g. switchgear) with approximately 41 HP driving a hydraulically coupled shaft as your sole means of safety. Immediately there are several points of failure that could render you immobile. The other option is a 110HP engine and systems dedicated Solely to propulsion.
The latter is “my” preference.
Great review as usual Captain! I've been following Northern Marine ever since Spirit of Zopilote came on the scene, and wow, are they ever amazing vessels! The 64 was always my favourite until they refreshed the 57 and just wow! The "get somewhere" approach that NM uses is a very good option, as are others mentioned here; depending on the issue encountered, one option will be better or worse than the others.
One disappointment though was your slide by of the exhaust system; yes, the exhaust does get wet before it leaves the vessel, but it has a dry muffler, is keel cooled, and the water is mixed with the exhaust just before it leaves. Innovative system!
Having said that, I'm a bit disappointed with the sloppiness of the paint on the foredeck around the foot controls and the rough underside of the anchor locker hatch area.
By far my favorite trawler. Please do a Bering next so I can make it my definitive favorite lol
I like the Blue hull and grey hull.
Excellent video and awesome exploration boat
5:30 beautiful looking helm seat.
Where I only to win the lotto. This would be perfect!
Thanks for this video. The wife and I wanted to retire on the water. I have been looking for this boat for close to 7 years. We has almost given up because it appears we were going to have to build our own but can't afford that.
Another great review of a beautiful boat! Just curious, how would you say this NM compares to a Nordhavn as they both are targeting the same buyers?
I'm sold! I'll take one with a navy blue hull!
Attractive boat,it just looks right.
Super
Lovely boat
I guess a secondary way to drive the main shaft as a "get home" feature is good as long as the problem is not with the main shaft or propeller. I wonder if a hydraulic driven wing shaft option might be a better choice from a redundancy perspective.
You could maybe get an outboard motor mount? Take the engine from dingy and limp.
Point of contention for me is that after watching a video of an untended 50ft fibreglass Leopard Cat catch fire while docked in Florida , I would rather get a Behring instead of either this or Nordhavn…..
Great test and a fantastic vessel, any idea of the noise levels?
I always like the gen sutuon
I'm not a big fan of asymmetric superstructure, there are several marinas in the area where you must dock as directed by staff so you could be forced to tie up where your superstructure is not allowing you to do so safely.
The big flaw with the main propeller for the emergency drive is: what if the problem is the propeller itself rather than the engine?
The last point is an automatic out: touch screens do not respond reliably enough to my touch, so nothing with a touch screen is acceptable.
He was biggin up a Nordhavn a while back with a wing engine and now he is dissin em !! Make ya mind up mate......
Did I miss the interior video for this, or is that not out yet?
*WOW* about sums it up for me.
I'm pretty sure I was ogling this exact boat in Anacortes a few weeks ago!
Does northern marine offer twin engines layout
Those large windows in the hull would scare the hell out of me. The sea is very unforgiving and two props are a must to get home when the peanut butter hits the fan. Even protected props can receive damage.
What about the rest of the boat ?
Does passage making mean that this can traverse the big oceans and go on big journeys?
That's the theory. To put that to the Literal Test this Vessel should be a long term loaner for Captain Steve and the rest of us to review and comment as that's the only way of knowing especially if serious about competing with Bering and Nordhavn. Great review but no way is this sufficient if you're actually trying to sell this Brand. Still might be starting to see some Tesla influences in the Expedition Yacht segment. An interesting warship view of this matter you can research the US Marine Corps "Makin Island" which as a one off Hybrid Drive Platform later became and is now the "America Class" *LCS?* i think they're known as.
Huge fan of single engine diesels.
I thought these guys went out of business after they sunk a new build/design on initial launch?
Why would this not be considered a ocean crossing boat ? Keel displacement? Rating ?
Are there some extra storage freezers onboard?
What a boat
Beautiful engine and specs but what does it look like inside?
please watch out features video to see more details inside. We usually split up the videos in two parts.
On the cooling system on the main engine I prefer a enclosed cooling system, I dont like the thought of salt water being pumped through my engine
This model engine has a heat exchanger so only coolant goes through the engine. Seawater is only used to cool the coolant in the exchanger.
What a nice boat!
Only Problem with having that one prop solution I see is with debris like a ghostnet cloging the shaft and prop.
A separat Engine with a folding prop would be Great redundancy but at a cost ofcourse.
That Argument your pointing out at been able to start that engine that isn’t been used a lot I don’t understand to be honest. After all ihr is a second Engine and ofcourse before going to remote places you check tec and Not just Jump on and off you go 🤷♂️ Meaning it sure is redundancy Even though ofcourse there is a Little Chance of two broken engines all the time Same as two broken/cloged props.
Secondly I don’t know about your 3kn flat out Wing engine Argument. In our marina hast been a Nordhavn using that tec that we „speed“ up to 5.2kn ok Wingengine (Testing tec for a Client Leasing for a Trip to tromsø, Norway)
Never the less: I love that boat! Hope we geht to See one around here some day 🥰
Do we finally have a couple's passage maker yacht in this class with full latitude capabilities?
Another wonderful video of a beautiful vessel.
Would it also be practical as a week long cruiser or more suited for super long range
How about the inside? Galley??
That's the features video, this is the function video.
Is this the company that didn't listen to the engineer, and they launched a boat the immediately tipped over 90 degrees?
I want this 😘
I need this 😘
It would make for an awesome Live a Board 🥰
It sure looks nice, but every time I see a Northern Marine boat I think of the launch failure in 2014.Was the boat prevented from rolling upright because of the trailer?
The capsize issue on launch was caused by a massive miscalculation in the amount of ballast fitted/needed on board...
@@chrisfs150 Very scary considering what could have happened offshore. It's amazing that a company that builds global cruising explorer yachts could have made that kind of mistake. Hopefully, they have gone through their past builds since that happened to verify the correct internal ballasting was added.
What is exaclty a get home drive
Hi, Capitán 🇵🇷🇵🇷✅✅👍👍
I wonder what range you would get down around 3 knots. If I remember correctly on the 60 they were claiming around 6k miles of range at that speed.
it would take two days to go 100 miles. LOL
Who cares? No one in their right mind would be traveling long distance at 3 knots.
A very far range that's for sure.
If you buy 2,600 gallons of fuel do you get a volume discount? 😇
pity only the mechanics was shown. In a wardrobe in the master suite was something, but never actually showed the suite at all. I dont remember a galley, or bathroom.
please don't forget to watch the feature review of the boat. We usually split our review in two videos -- boattest.com/boats/northern-marine/57-raised-pilothouse-2022
Weird how John Deer's fuel burn and range were DRASTICALLY improved in their own test. The only way to explain it is that they were going with a strong current or outright lying.
vhf layout is a bit underwhelming for a decent enough boat
Steve, how are you going to say other get drives do 2.5-3knts the nordhavn 60 get home you tested did 6 plus ? Anyway very nice boat
I thought the same thing. Captain Steve kind of put his credibility in question with that one.
No wing engine is one less thing to deal with
At 4:25 "wing engine typically pushing 2.5 knots...". Not so, let's take a typical Nordhavn 64 with 475 hp main and 160 hp wing. At leisurely and economical 7.5 knots the main engine delivers about 160 hp, same as wing engine max hp. In tests the wing engine alone pushes the boat 5-6 knots, which is good considering the smaller less efficient propeller set at the side. Where does your "2.5 knots" come from? Out of a hat?
A single main propeller can be damaged also, by the way, with a wing engine there is true redundancy. If it is used to run docking hydraulics (thrusters, anchor etc) also it also gets used often enough to keep ie alive, like in Nordhavns.
Main engine in the N64 is 425hp. Wing engine will push it 4-5 knots in normal conditions, less if rough weather.
@@Timinwa My friend's N64 achieved 6 knots with the 160 hp Lugger, like I said, main engine running at about 160 hp pushed the boat 7.5 knots using 25 liters per hour (1200 rpm) , 87 liters ar full throttle (1870 rpm).
nord psycho. at no point did he speak of your god. he made a general statement that is true.
you're worse than the bmw or mercedes people.
YOU NEED A BETTER CAMERA, EVERTHING IS BLURED.
Looks similar to Norhavn and Bering yachts. 👍
That's what I was thinking. Nordhavn
It’s a wanna’ be Nordhavn lacking the finish and detail.
@@callmewheels4806 Have you owned either? I've owned a Northwest 45 built by the same people and I can tell you they build an excellent boat. I love Nordhavns but they are not superior to Northern Marine. Both brands build an excellent passage maker with a slightly different take on how to strike the best balance. The most annoying thing about Nordhavns is their blind cult following. You seem to be in that cult.
@@andrewkhilyuk6841 I HAVE NEVER OWNED A NORDHAVN to answer the question.
That said, I have lived in and around boatyards and marinas in San Diego and Newport Beach my Entire Life.
I talk to owners, the service, sales and brokerage professionals more than casually.
You are correct, both manufacturers create vessels wholly designed with “passage making” in remote locations both with respectable pedigrees.
But…the “CULT” as you address me is borne of all above I just cited.
Should you choose to further disparage the “CULTIST”, proffer wisdom to the contrary. Find a Nordhavn owner that *REGRETS* the choice, Nordhavn over vessels from Northern Marine.
@@andrewkhilyuk6841 amen.
I wonder if they are as seaworthy as the Nordhavn are? Anyway it is a wonderful trawler. As usual if you have to ask the price you can’t afford it 😂.
As an owner of a Northern Marine, I can assure you these are incredibly seaworthy vessels. Not only have many NM's circumnavigated the world, but they're right in their element when taking green water over the bow or half filling the dingy on the boat deck! I wouldn't want to be in any other boat in rough conditions.
Im just not convinced by the "get home" engine option...
Id prefer a wing engine with separate shaft, aren't a lot of engine stoppages caused by entanglements?
Mind you my dreamboat would be a northern marine or nordhavn fitted with twin gardener non turbo engines.
But im just weird i suppose
The same Northern Marine brand that rolls over and does not right itself?
Where’s the video of similar brands righting themselves? The chances that would ever happen at sea are basically zero.
@@barryholiday8998 You should try and search YT for "10 million dollar yacht capsizes while being launched for new owner" - and you can see a Northern Marine roll over on its side at launch. Unrecoverable wreck and written off at launch. Lots of excuses and finger pointing and it wasnt me, look at the other guy etc....
A number of boat builders build self righting power boats, Seahorse Marine, the designs based on the XPM range, the Watson range, and another UK builder just off the top of my head, there are many more, actually build explorer power yachts that if they get knocked down, they have a better than good/almost always, chance to right themselves.
The move towards high freeboard, shallow draft and (Lord forbid) depending upon stabilzers (of all things!) to contribute to stability and sea worthiness is a crime in my book. A perfect example is the failed launch of the Northern Marine yacht as i pointed out above, the only good thing is that it fell over in front of the owner at launch and not in the middle of the Pacific.
@@Leosarebetter you listed a couple of builders and I only recognized one and they aren’t known for larger vessels. You failed to name one competitor with NM like Nordhavn, Bering, etc.. I’ll assume that’s because those aren’t self righting either. If you want a self righting vessel get a sailboat.
@@barryholiday8998 Geez Barry get an education, go and teach yourself something instead of rambling off YT figures. Who cares if you only recognised just one builder? your ignorance to deal with. If you knew anything you would have recognised that two of the builders I mentioned have ranges that exceed Nordhavn, Bering and build same lengths. You totally fail to recognise the problem. Must be all your "sea time" LOL.
@@Leosarebetter There is an NTSB report on the cause of the accident. There apparently was a miscalculation on the amount of ballast needed and the amount of ballast onboard that caused the stability issue, caused by project management problems, as well as mistakes made during the stern-first launch.
Не последовательный обзор !
If a Bering or Nordhavn are from Bloomingdale's then this boat is from a Higgly Piggly ! .
Now do Bering!
Lekker man lekker 🇿🇦
wat is nou so lekke Gerhard?
Kind of looks like a Nordhvan externally, but it's not even close to one ,like a slow cousin.
A 57ft with a single engine? It's recommended to have 2 engines to go to the islands off of LA, and that's for a much smaller boat. Are you suuure? This looks more like a great lakes machine, than something meant for the ocean.
A lot of Trawler-type long-range boats have one engine. This one has a PTO that runs off of a generator. That's your backup.
Northern Marine's heritage comes from hard working Alaskan commercial fishing vessels. This is built off an Alaska limit seiner proven hull.
For the man whom longs for a Nordhavn.
Taking subtle jabs at the Nordhavn doesn’t make this a better vessel. The Nordhavn is a far more polished vessel and DOES have the wing engine you suggest is a negative.
The wing engine is a system WHOLEY independent of the primary power and drive. It IS USED OFTEN for the thrusters and other ancillary hydraulics.
The wing engine has a separate fuel supply, shaft and prop creating a Genuinely redundant system to return to port. As for speeds using the wing engine, you cite 3 or 4 knots. Take a look at ANY Nordhavn spec and 5 to 6 knots are the norm.
Lastly, this vessels “back-up” drive system is a Generator (approx. 41 HP) coupled hydraulically to the main shaft. What would you do if the prop is fouled? If you find comfort in this being your LAST SHOT to return to port, by all means, write the check.
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Very disappointing. Didn't show any of the living,dining or cabin quarters. Could've done a lot better.
We for years have broken up our reviews into two videos when they are bigger boats - 1 is the operational which is this one and then the 2nd is a features review which as all the living details. Please check it out when you can. If you don't see it on youtube you can always visit boattest.com - boattest.com/boats/northern-marine/57-raised-pilothouse-2022
Geez I wish Americans converted to metric measurement like everyone else
inch....feet....inch....feet....hmmm
John Deer farm tractor when one sensor goes bad the whole tractor shuts down. The farmer has to have the tractor transported sometimes hundreds of miles to get it fixed costing a small fortune in towing charges. What a waste.
Huge lack of actually cartography...you're already lost..
Oh ? What if something happens to the main propeller , drive shaft , or fuel system ?? On Nordhavn they take all this into account plus Nordhavn can install the same hydrolic system on this boat and still have a wing engine with its own driveshaft, propeller , and isolated fuel system !! So basically you are talking out of your ass !!!