Several political parties abandon Progressive Caucus and join the GNU
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- Political analyst Dr Levi Ndou says some political parties might join the GNU to strengthen it, but others might join for their personal interest and not those of the voters. Three parties have announced that they will join the GNU this weekend: the UDM, Rise Mzansi and Al Jama-ah.
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😂their funders are calling them one by one,😂 they'll all going to join, now voters know who funds their political parties.
And the DA is saying nothing about them jumping in late 😂
I sadly agree with you, because it's clearer that those who pull strings are giving orders
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Vbs
MK is seen as the party of the devil. The Zumbi demons are falling
There should perhaps have been a cut-off date for parties to join the GNU. It is disrupting the negotiations & delaying the finalising of Cabinet.
Talking rubbish
@@MjikssooDladla No need to be so insulting. Voice your opinion with respect or keep your opinions to yourself.
true it would be better if there is a cut off date
...Levy Ndou always looks sober but his mind is intoxicated he is the very same man who has been defending Ramaphosa through thick and thin...Ndou has deceived millions of pple...he's untrustworthy period!!!
How many "political analysts " does South Africa have? 😂
Lol. Almost as many as the people who didn't vote!
Loooool. My question is, how do one qualify to be called a political analyst?
😂
@@Josephalive101
Ask the political analysts
If you go to school and become qualified
There is no GNU, but a coalition of ANC & DA, rest are 1 member MPs parties.
its shows hw deceptive most ignorant political parties are they only thinking of the money
Black power doesn't pay the bills
@@kamps492 This is the power of the 1% stupid even DA BOWS TO THEM.
Eff and Mk are in a good stand as they complement each other, in NGU their mission will be infiltrated
What might that mission be as both parties are formed around a single person out for revenge against the ANC? They have no interest in serving the people of South Africa, they only say that and the gullible people in SA believe them. 🤦♀️ What has either one of them done to improve YOUR life specifically??????
@@marieslabbert6009That's your opinion and I respect that, but we can't speak against the facts. EFF and MK cannot join the GNU because it's not what those who voted for them wanted for south Africa. It's not even philosophical, it's one thing to run a city together, but DA will never do anything to improve the lives of black people. It's just a fact,we just have to acknowledge and accept that. But we can through emotional tantrums speak about EFF,but we have not given them an opportunity to rule south Africa and hence anything anyone says is simply empty words and empty assumptions.
@@marieslabbert6009well Zuma did a lot in Kzn developing infrastructure n helping a lot of small businesses n so many students under Zuma foundation. CIC MALEMA has built houses n school n church n many students he's payed for their studies. So tell us about GNU leaders on their capacity not as government.
I think these two parties will stay put in the opposition while working hard on the ground for a huge comeback in the next elections. I believe these are the parties that will stay together. Maybe let's add the ATM there, I might be wrong because I didn't see the PAC departure coming 😅.
2026 the EFF and MK party will struggle to get votes.
I see what ANC is doing welcoming all parties so that the DA doesn't have a power on them,but I see a collapse because of disagreements that is goin to take place.
Agree.
They are running for the position, and if they don't get it, then titanic will disappear.
They are hoping for possiton nothing else
Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Business(Funders) are calling one by one
Bosa and Action SA should also join the GNU. This is all politics of the stomach.
The hand that is feeding is very much strong. Take it or leave it.
Kunzima mfoka Nzama. Kulelizwe kudlange ipolotiki yesisu. Imigulukudu yonke le esemandleni.
Or they can start singing,,,,,,Goodbye Gravy Train,,,,,,
Gayton Mackenzie said he also wants his share of the Gravy.Aah hee haa.🤣🤣🤣👍👍💯
@@user-pv7cc9yo9x Yes, all political crooks want their hands in the cookie jar. Its no wonder the racist DA is fighting so hard to be given a " fair " share of cabinet posts.
Most of them will dropout. Smaller parties have little to no influence on policy, executive and legislative decision/positions. They do not have the social capital nor the bargaining power
Correct me if I misunderstand. Is it not better for them to be in the room and have a voice, however small, rather than have no knowledge of what is going on as total outsiders, without any voice?
@@michellelewis1090 while that is true, I do foresee most of them being unsatisfied with tje arrangements. Cabinet will most likely be filled by the ANC, DA and IFP. It’s also quite evident that the DA has a lot more bargaining power than the rest hence I don’t think their voices will be heard
@@mandzisim6886 Sometimes the littlest voice has a different perspective, although you are probably correct.
Great interview.
Anyone who continues to celebrate the Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and the Putinification of Russia is on the wrong side of the South African recovery.
My best wishes for the people of South Africa.🇿🇦
Excellent, objective interview.
If everyone joins who will oppose the government if they do something against the people?🤷🏽Its important for every country to have a functional opposition...trust me, one party state is a horrible situation.
Its easier to negotiate and assist with correct decisions from the inside than on the outside !
It seems emmerging parties formed for jobs and funds it's the best way to say our people are suffering just 4 words takes them through, please 🙏 serve the country and the people of SA in the best interest of the people
I call this GNU aka RAMAZILE😂😂
It's more like Zilleposa
™️ that
Who pays Anc staff salaries,who pays Da Staff salaries, who pays Pa staff salaries, who pays Ifp staff salaries...there just fins out who the funders are ...then U will know who is at drivers seat and pulling the strings...this has nothing to do with poor people this jas everything to do with power and 💰
Did you give us a similar headline when parties abandoned the multi party charter?
Go cry elsewhere wena Satan
😂😂😂
The Multi Party Charter thing had no relevance & no impact on the political direction of the country. The DA was premature in forming something like that before knowing election results.
Glad GNU expanding.
Please join BOSA.
We need service delivery.
six months no more.
Service delivery from who?
They are now having 60%, any party that will want to join must get approved by all those 10 parties, that's clause 24, misunderstood by Clement and Helen Zille.
@@nomalungelongcete5875true by who maimane wahluleka njeh he went back home and come back with Bosa look what happened to mk only six months but massive followers all these parties are playing
@@nomalungelongcete5875🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eff and MK party are in good hands.
they are going in for personal interests
The gravy train
Eff , mk are in big trouble no numbers , say in parliament. Every party is going for GNU
only time will tell bt my money is on the greed of the politicians
They will be opposition parties
Eff is safe. They have already sworn in.
You should be saying South African people are in big trouble
What is happening with the Gupta
mk
Puppet show party
Only those who has backbone who will stick there for the truth
ANC wants to remain in power and appoint ANC cabinet members. Lets say it as it is.
A Sly move. Leopard does not change it spots!
Thus the narrative you're trying to portray as media houses However you know that those are insignificant parties that are in their way into the ICU as a result of their action😂
Please help us to know about our president and the new G N U because MrZuma is trying to create war
Thank you.Well said.
Progressive alliance knows very well that those who left hve no spine at all and also to be associated with Zuma is closely monitored
It seems like those who are happy and supporting that causus don't have a clue what to do, their focus is on the GNU, hoping that it will fail.
Is not for all, EFF and MK are not welcomed listen to ANC and DA speeches DA doesn't want both ANC doesn't want MK
These professors are talking rubbish. Every democracy needs strong opposition party or parties
Do not insult people because you don't agree with them
Pointing out rubbish is not an insult. @@nomalungelongcete5875
@nomalungelongcete5875 It's the truth, though.
Those small parties were going to weaken the progressive forces anyway.
MK and EFF alliance will be powerful.
I completely agree with you
Most definitely im sure they joined the Gnu for positions coz I don't see them influencing policy the big problem will arise when policies that affect their constituents negatively are made and they can't influence any outcome with their 1 seat
Powerful where? 14% plus 9% is a complete Joke. 😂 This progressive nton nton was a waste of time. That's why all the parties are jumping ship to join the Gravy train. 😂😂😂
Why are you laughing like you don't understand how parliament works? Was it not the opposition that pushed for the state capture enquiry that led to the exposure of corruption within the state?
Also, Constitutional Ammendments need a 75% majority, if EFF + MK have 20% together, that's already an influencial number if such a need arises
Everyone is an analyst 😂
Oppenheimers told them to join or pay back the money they took🤣🤣🤣
What im cool with is that this gnu will show us the real DA
... As well as Anc
Nope. They are not voluntarily leaving progressive parties. All the Oppenheimer sponsored parties have been summoned to join the "gnu"...😅
Best from them than Russia.
Don't say abandoned Progressive Caucus. And your visitor shouldn't say we must be carefully. Careful for what!
Let us hope that parties will grow in the GNU and less polarization among parties will pave the way for a strong GNU.
Maybe is a good thing for them to be in power to represent their voters, so that next time it will be corrections 😂😂😂😂 of past wrongs
This is becoming a mess. Parties are tail coat riding.
Politics of the stomach. Voters will be needed at election time. After elections it is one man for himself. South Africans will regret what they did. Why didnt they just vote ANC after all because they are going back to the ANC
Voters voted and IEC manipulated.
This eff presentre needs to go, south africa is first now , not people like this presentre, get rid of him
awesome
IFP leader for Deputy President !!
Kahle wazini uhlabisa
Deputy president from 9 seat?
They will raise Progressive Voice there. Don't be ignorant and naive. You know they are still Progressive
I voted for the DA, but think that it is not a good idea to have John Steenhuizen as deputy president. However, I do nit think Paul Mashitile is a good candidate. A much better person will be David Makhura. He is a level headed person with no known scandals, I stand to be corrected. I think he is a 1000% better candidate for vise president.
He must appoint Zille. Not these featherweights
...i wish he does not. Otherwise he will be accountable for bad decisions by ministers and Prez. 1994 -2024 nearly bankrupt state.
The DA will compel the ANC to honour the agreement made before the Speaker and President was elected. The DA gave their support on the basis of the 13th June document. If they now reneg, they show they can't be trusted and I can see how the DA withdraws 😕
I think the DA should be more humble and less demanding. Get the basics in place, get started and sort out the niggles in due course. This is like a marriage, you must work on it each day in good faith.
There's no compelling that is going to happen. The DA has been trashing the ANC for 30 years. They can't now turn around and claim that they expected the ANC to be trustworthy. Secondly, the DA should stop making demands that they are not entitled to. Most importantly, the DA must stop making condescending and derogatory remarks about the ANC and other parties. No one wants to work with people like that.
proportional representation is required to have good faith. ANC has also been trashing SA for 30 years.
@@marieslabbert6009 I believe the coalition partners should get what is proportionally represented by their votes. Without that the DA is just there to prop up an ANC that don't except they lost the majority and the DA will achieve nothing.
One should not enter into an unequally joked marriage. But we'll see what happens.
Stop treating us like little kids. All these parties are willing to join. Mk & EFF aren't joining because they didn't get their unreasonable demands. The EFF wanted the finance portfolio with 9%. Imagine!!!! 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Don't lie!. We have to have people inside and outside to hold balance in what we want
Stability and Service delivery was not reveived by Zuma. Eff much to radical!
Siyabonga aba joyinile ningafani ngomalema no zuma
If DA withdraws, there others don't make 50+1, government can be collapsed any time
DA is 21%. It is nothing in the GNU. If it withdraws, it is business as usual.
@@shopekassie if DA with draws that means MK + EFF + DA can vote for no confidence for Cyril and he will be out the job. ANC has already cut bridges with EFF MK, can't have DA do the same.
@@mackyj7801 Why you are so obsessed with 21%? Or you did not do arithmetic at school?
Good they're not with us as their the product of WMC 😊
Several? Does this mean we don't know the actual number or we are doing what SA media does well.
"Progressive Caucus is losing members on a regular basis". What does this even mean. 😂😂
EFF and MK are a sinking ship.
You decide. In or out. Eff is safe for now,already sworn in.
How being sworn in guarantee any safety?safety from what exactly? Because on Tuesday the mk party is going to be sworn in as well@@tsekomofokeng182
Why? Because they are not sheep and refuse to join in with the crowd. This country still needs opposition in parliament. The only losers in this are South African citizens because it appears every party is now jostling for positions more than anything else. If the ANC's strategy is to weaken the power of the DA in the GNU, well, then maybe this is the way to go.
Jus say you don't understand how parliament works
Great analysis. Let the " non- progressive alliance" know the people desired that all parties work for SA. Not oppose unity
Is it GNU or Government Unity Of Confusion.GUC.Aah hee haa.👍👍💯
How many people I each parties 🙄
The SANCO community should come in
Why are they calling it a GNU???? Because it not.
Because everyone was invited
Money at play😂😂😂😂
Why they don't call EFF and MK? it mean all this small parties where ANC branches😂😂, ANC in SA want to make sure they hv others majorities of GNU2 of small parties if maybe there's some misunderstandings between the GNU1 then the GNU2 of all smal parties can cover ANC during impeachment vote in parliament of SA...
Mk it’s a disruption
Disrupting what
How?...by demanding justice for South Africans n Africa in particular?. Parties you claim have abandoned Progressive Caucus never said that. They know their role in the Government of National U-Turn
You mean you thieves who stole our votes you detracted everything look now this NGU can't even agree with anything
Please my president u da umbeke
Gijima Nangu Usathane
Hahahaaaaa GNU 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ingihlekisile leyo kasathane😂😂😂
Yo yo yo, you are calling the devil? 😳
Progressive Circus 😅
Amanga
The Power of Business. You can't run a political party without money 🤑💰
They will be chaos in decision making 🙈 lets gope they jumb in for serving the people not themselves 🥺
Akulona qiniso lelo akekho umuntu ongavotela ukuhlukumeza amanye amaqembu ukhuluma iphutha ke lomuntu
This thing won't last 🤞
Keep holding finger till they turn blue and fall off
I wonder who decides which analysts to call...these people are not saying anything 😂.There's a lot to be said about the sufficient consensus stalemate and they just ignore that completely. Ayyy the Media we have. DA is not stupid, they wouldn't vote for President unless they got some guarantees from ANC.
The only true political party in SA right now is the EFF and MK. Rather than that, the other one was created by the ANC 😅😅😅
Speak for yourself.
Mr Ndou can you please Analyse our Politics right now don't try to show us how GNU is important...Im a South African who Oppressed by Hellen Zille and Stellenbosch Botch Mafias so as SABC Employee please love your job ......South Africa is not about protecting Ramaphosa from his White Blood Brothers but to build Black South African Stability
Stop insulting the whites, are you a racist. The country belongs to all.! The whites paid lots of taxes to build a beautiful country for all races! Pity the collapse of Railways, escom power.poor service delivery, corruption, state capture etc etc in 30 years!
Bakhokhile abelungu
You wish you were white but you want to stay poor
Mr ntuli you are a lier just like mbalula
What, according to you, is the real truth?
EFF took a good stand, I hope MKP will be on the side of the EFF.
Yes, we need cool heads in the GNU.
MK is dragging its feet. EEF has already sworn in. Month end there will be notifications.
Fake news n propaganda!!
What is Constitunialsm analyst
You talking rubbish, SA has a coalition, not GNU.
What's the difference? I really wish to know
Joining what? Without the approval of Gogo Helen Zille??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 what an awful woman.
You are behind. I guess you are one of those who didn't understand clause 24, just like her.
It is only now, after the inclusion of Al Jama-Ah that the GNU has 60%,of the political parties in the N.A, from now on, any party that will want to join, will get an approval of those GNU members.
You call people gogos solely because you likened them with your grandmother there in the rural areas; a person who knows chickens, cattle, goats, 12:01 and sheep. In the sphere of government and its arms, and in politics as well, we refer to people as Mr, Ms, Mrs, honorable so and so because they worked hard for those titles. Brains, using Brains is a standard for respecting those people. Your grandmother is Mrs so and so too if you consider her marriage. But, locally, she's MaZulu depending on the clan name she is coming from. All I ask, respect people according to their achievements.
@Josephalive101 There's no way an experienced legal practitioner like uGogo would fail to interpret a clause while an unmetriculated Mr Mbalula does. At law when interpreting a clause you either approach the textual, orthodox or contextual way, bar precedent.
Ramaphosa Analyst 🙄
Why aren't you reporting on what is happening in Kenya?
Why?
???
Are you out of your mind 😂
Because your thus called progressive party are becoming useless as things stand 😂😂😂
Because Kenya has nothing to do with the structure of the South African government?
Like seriously...?😂
The progressive alliance will be weakened because they need money to run day to day events so those in government can donate to their respective parties. UDM for instance funds could the issue but the not necessarily selling out.
Courage and coweredness cannot co-exist,when your with Zuma you must know your story or you go and berg Gogo ZILLE for approval
another 'political analyst' talking nonsense...pure dull and boring blah blah blah