Wireless In Ear Monitors | What You NEED To Know
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
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Can I get more of the caterers slapping the silverware in my mix please?
Hey! They have a gig too ya know.
With a little Plate Reverb and some delay, thanks.
Michael Thompson 😂
@@prillewitz Make sure that delay's tapped in right or you're fired!
So incredibly annoying.
"It makes FOH engineers very happy."
Damn right it does! I love the stage volume reduction it brings. I was able to mix a pop-country band with their own IEM at just above 85db for a dinner set while still maintaining a pretty punchy mix!
Being able to utilize my aux busses as instrument/vocal subgroups rather than monitor mixes is also a major plus as well. :D
they must have had a really quiet drummer, and guitar amps ;)
Dustin Thiessen it was outdoors and they kinda tucked the drummer away, but he also knew not to hit insanely hard during that part of the set. And there were no amps! Lead guitar was on a helix and bassist was on a sansamp.
It's good in situations when you have noise limitations or a small PA, but in the end, wedges always give you a better feel and I find musicians "get into the gig" more with loud wedges and a larger stage.
Sometimes a mix of IEM and wedges are even better, especially for drummers and bass players.
Matt Rehm 100% spot on!!
@@mattrehm8612 I agree. However, it is important to note that bands knowledgable enough in basic audio are using these monitor rigs because they're tired of shitty FOH/Monitor sound (for various reasons). These days more and more musicians I mix for are getting more and more savvy to what the want things to sound like and are taking matters into their own hands. I personally love it. The only time I hate this system is when you get a bunch of boomers that don't understand you can't have RF stay on the same frequency from city to city. Other than that you can achieve almost studio like mixes even in smaller rooms.
I was in a covers band for the past couple of years that used a very similar system. It was by far the best on-stage control I’ve ever had. We all had the app on our phones with our individual mixes set up. Any slight tweak we wanted to our mix was super easy to achieve. And as a plus for the shows for where we were responsible for our own FOH mix it was super easy to do out of the same console.
If anyone is on the fence with the setup costs involved in putting together such a rig, the payoff in ease of use, and just the comfort of having a consistent sound each show, is definitely worth it.
Great video Rhett, awesome nerd-out on what can be some fairly dry subject matter. Glad to hear it’s working for you guys!
you remember any name?
It's lovely to see you all have this set up your IEMs, but even greater that you seem to all get along so well.
My group is looking into getting a wireless monitor setup and this video was perfect timing!! Thanks man!
Thanks Rhett and Ian - appreciate the thorough and clear, informative overview of your in ear monitor system.
Our band was JUST talking about this. This is a FANTASTIC and clear explanation. Yes, the IEM video would be great. And add links to the equipment and hopefully you can get a referral rebate.
“Noah vocal, Ian’s vocal, whoever’s on bass vocal”
Sad bass noises :(
Davie504 I need bASS!
Wow !! This is mind blowing !! I play in a band in South América, and we have to cope every night with the worst case scenario because of the precarious situation of the venues in my country and the technology you use and show in this video is like a dream to us, but its great to learn all this stuff because maybe someday we could afford a system like this ! Ive been watching your videos and they have tons of great info ! Saludos !!
Rhett!! Im so glad I asked about the setup, looks really good and it gives me a lot of ideas of how my band mates and I can get started with wireless IEMS! Thanks!!!!
More explanation on the hardware behind the isolated split would be greatly appreciated!
i agree with you james! more of that please rhett
So, this rack is comprised of several pieces of gear mentioned here. As far as the isolated split, it's a rack-mounted snake (with some extras that I can't tell what they're used for), that is fed to FOH. All the mic inputs come from the patchbay (ART S8 Microphone Splitter) and from the Behringer SD8 snake box and then split off from there and they all go to the rack-mounted snake and the X32 Rack console.
@@beauherron4258 The drum mics are plugged directly to the SD8 (I imagine Ian splits those channels internally), the FOH snake consists of a multipin plug in type of snake. Best-Tronics does a similar multipin rack snake setup, and yes, the cables going to the drum mics, are already on the top of the rack ready to connect.
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I use pretty much the same set up for my band in the UK (also based around the Behringer X32). The consistency from gig to gig is amazing and you have the ability to save scenes which allows you to recall different settings if you have a different band set up or different room types.
It's particularly great for running my guitar (as well as keyboards, vocals, drums and horns) in stereo. Sound checks are much more streamlined and the only instruments that really need prepping are drums and vocals (due to them using microphones). I use a Helix for these gigs so my sound is the same each gig. Obviously the front of house engineering still needs to do his/her checks but we can get to that a lot quicker with this system.
Thanks for this!! The X32 and all its variants are just so incredibly useful. Some people don't like IEM's but I love them!
Love that pin cable to house. Nice setup guys, very professional and a must have for gigging bands. I am currently working with a sound production team in the Charlotte NC. Splawn Amplification, when bands show up with these in ear rigs it does make our life much easier.
I will say this for folks who are considering building this rig. You must provide your own connections to house. I know this seems like a duh, however it has happened. Thanks Rhett and Ian for showing us around your setup.
That's the interesting part to me to (cables to FOH). It would seem like you need another audio snake or ton of individual cables (6-8 drums mic's, bass di, E gtr cab, vocals, etc).
Wow this so interesting and so efficient. Thank you for posting this. You guys are awesome for doing the chairity gig for childrens cancer.
Thanks, Rhett! I've been bringing this up with my band, so this is GREAT having someone break it down and explain everything. We would love to see a follow-up video on IEMs! They're more commonplace now and I'd really like to hear your experiences with them before we make this investment.
This is really close to the same set up my band runs. Love the layout of the vid. Good job.
This may be your best vid yet. Thanks!
I have a very similar setup for my band but use the Soundcraft UI24. Difference is, sometimes at smaller gigs, we don't have a sound guy, so in that instance we can simply send a left and right mix to the front of house system. It works great!
This is one of the most useful video for me! Endlessly grateful.
Thanks for this one! My band has been thinking of going IEM. Great overview and look at a real working setup.
always wondered how those things worked….pretty cool thanks rhett
thanks for the helpful explanation! sharing some novice questions below -
* do the in ears cancel out all the sound behind you from the amp/drums/other instruments? or do you hear the sound from the in ears plus that stuff?
* what are some use cases for changing what you hear vs. what the audience hears (e.g. adding reverb)?
* what if the in ears go mid set for whatever reason? just play with the sound of room?
Great vid. Yes to a follow up on your IEMs.
Ah now I want to start a band just to set up the wireless monitoring system
lol fr
Just as always , Rhett does very informative videos !
I have been looking at these systems. So pumped to see your video!
Yes I definitely want to see you do IEM video! I'd like to pass it on to my church music director
Awesome video & explanation of the sound gear. I must admit that this video's sound was so good that I thought someone was in my kitchen making plate noise. Again, your videos are very well received here in Memphis
I appreciate this video, guys. I'm a sales employee at a major music retailer and I've been getting questions lately about wireless in ears. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that there's a super cost effective way to do it yet, but it doesn't seem like we're far off from this being the norm. For now I'll be sure to send customers to this video since this is the best explanation I've seen so far! Thanks again.
I've been using the Xvive monitoring system, and it's worked very well for me so far. Much more cost effective than the shure systems.
Good stuff Rhett! Really helps to see a working bands setup all the way through. Thank you!
Yes, would like a detail video on in ear monitors. Appreciate you & the guys explaining all this . Will probably watch this a couple more times ( still looks somewhat complicated to me) . Thanks for posting your "life as a working musician" - Betty
When the cover band I was in played (most every weekend in different venues), we had our own monitor rig and splitter snake.
I still use my old Shure PSM200 system, BUT... nice triple-driver (or better) custom molded buds make the biggest difference.
The better the seal, the better the sound.
this is the most advanced tech i have ever seen!....good video! thanks for sharing this.
This is such a great setup. I love it!
We use the M32c in a similar setup. You can adjust your own mix via an app on your phone if you want to. You don't have to ask one person to make the adjustments for you.
Very informative, Rhett cool stuff to know, since I play on a almost silent stage most Sundays
Great timing. I'm looking into building an IEM rig and the X32. Good to see I'm on the right path.
I was waiting for the flying guitars in the outro with the same fear that i saw it in the last vid.... Glad you didnt put that part xD
When I was gigging a few years ago, our 4 piece band was using a similar setup (Mackie). Each one of us was able to control our own monitor mix in our in-ears via our iPhones/iPads.
Guy Lannewehr you could do this with the x32 also. No iPhone app :-( but no limit on the number of iPad connections. Would be great if you had charts on iPads already, could just switch apps and adjust mix.
Awesome information guys!!
Absolutely would love for you to do a vid on in ear drivers! 😉
Thanks guys, I learned a ton. Now I know why your videos sound so good! Oh, and talent...
STOP READING MY MIND! When I was planning a pedal board you do a new pedal board set up I’m now looking in to IEM set ups and you upload this! 😂
Such a great informative video. I was interested in learning more about IEM's and man did this help out...thanks.
This is fantastic. Thanks for the video. I love my X32 mini in my home studio. Great way to do IEMs!
This was so interesting. I am an intermediate guitar player and started playing gigs a few years ago. I know very little about gear, so this was very helpful.
One of your best videos!!!!
We run a similar system with the even smaler Behringer XAir 18. The bassplayer and I even went one step further by using the PM16 which, in your case, might be redundant since you have the EQ, Comp and FX stuff done in the X32, though. Cool video!
Thanks for sharing your rig setup... very helpful 👍👍
Love this video! Do you put every piece of the drum kit into the iems or do you just have the toms bled into the overhead mics?
Great video as always man!
This is a great video and thank you for doing it. I'm looking at same thing on a smaller scale. For a reality check on costs, each musician must purchase 1 x transmitter, 1 x receiver, and 1 x in-ear monitors. Transmitter/receiver for each person must be paired and a unique frequency from the other members of the band. Cost impact is the quality of the in-ear piece (custom fit vs inserts, all flavors of each) and the brand/quality of the transmitter/receiver pair. On top of that, with your option, all the other hardware for mixing and such. A basic setup could use each aux send from FOH to tailor as many independent sends as the board can send to aux out and the transmitters would sit with the FOH board, correct? I do love your isolation setup is cost were not a factor for sure.
I've always wondered how you protect your hearing, so yeah more please! 👍
Very interesting. It would also be interesting to hear how a given song varies across each of the player's monitors (based on their preferences, of course).
Great stuff Rhett!
I too want to see a video on IEM with all the goodies about stage volume, volume of your monitors and how they compare to the good old days of wedges. Great things to have to protect the ears!
One of the best videos that I’ve seen on this topic. Question: since you are always setting up/break down, how long does it take on average to get a sound in your in-ears at each venue? Curious because of the mic placements, especially for the drums. Thanks for all the information!!!
That moment when he’s describing the various inputs on the splitter at 3:16- “and whoever’s on bass”. Story of my life!
Yeah buddy, IEMs deserve a video on their own. Big differences between a 3 driver universal fit and a 10 driver custom mold!
This helped so much, thank you!
Awesome video, Rhett! Thanks.
Awesome video thanks for the detail!
I'm now putting together my own IEM (and might even make a video of it myself) but I can't wait to use it for shows!
Pretty straight forward and good explanation.
Nice job
Would have been helpful to put the links for the shure wireless packs and ear wedges
It's cool to see you get more use out of the helix. Is it just to keep stage volume to a minimum for this gig?
Great video. Always wondered how that all came together. What type of IEM’s are those....as far as number of drivers. Some say more is better, others say that 3 or more is overkill.
Hello, I do love this video. Might there be a way to send a list of everything you use in that system. I would love to price point a decent wireless setup for our staff. Also, I would love figure out how everything is connected, all the way down to the splitter that goes to front of house. Thanks, even if there is no way to get that info. 👍
Thanks guys. Very educational
Nice overview guys. Do you set up ambient mics or do you just get bleed from the vocal mics? Also, was it difficult to convince anyone to go this route?
Very helpful explanation, thank you.
Yes, I would like to see a video about the IEM's please!
I second that, along with what kind you recommend. There’s so many companies out there and it’s hard to know who is legit.
Yes do a IEM video
Definitely should do
Count me in!
Please
When you run your amp modeling, do you send it to your in-ears like it was a microphone on your amp? If you are playing a house/stage where you are using someone else’s microphones, how do you get the mix?
hey Rhett!! thanks a lot for your video. Could you show us your actual personal live rig? since you don´t play anymore with the line 6 set up. Thanks!
Yes please, a video on the IEM!
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks for the information.
Can you share any scenes of your in ear mix setup maybe? Would love to check them out
hey Rhett, it would be great to get a video about the inear system... thx!
great guys, this is very helpful for me!! thanks!!!
Thanks Rhett....very helpful.
Hey man, you got a link to that isolated split snake? I've been searching for a good one for a while and can only seem to find passive ones... certainly don't want that. Thanks!
I know that for Shure Wireless units, they have different versions with different frequency ranges. Apparently you're meant to use different ones in different states due to some sort of regulation or use of frequencies in that area.
Do you guys just stick with one unit and have you ever noticed issues with interference?
Yes, I’m curious, too. What IEMs do you use?
When I was playing drums in my last band I did a basic version of this just for me using a Behringer RX1202FX EuroRack Pro Rackmount Mixer, a few Y cables to take feeds from the drum mics and then I’d take the speaker emulated line out/DI from the guitarist’s & bassists heads. This was all done for less than £150. It is possible to do this so cheap and it made a huge difference.
Hey that's a pretty solid setup there. Could you by chance tell me what ISO Split you are using? Thanks!
Dumb question but is that big cable out for FOH a universal size that you can plug into any festival rig? Do you have to bring a large cable snake for FOH for those or do you tap in at the stage?
Hey Rhett, do you ever do support slots with this band? How does it work in particular with a mic'd drum kit that may already be patched into the FOH for the main support?
Great video. I'm looking at setting up an IEM system for my band too and would love to do something like you guys do. I'm curious why you didn't use a Behringer P16-M (personal monitor mixer) for every band member to control their individual IEM mixes, connected to the X32 via ultranet? What is the advantage to doing it the way you do it as opposed to with the P16-Ms? Are you saying the X32 rack can already create individual IEM mixes, so no need for the individual personal monitor mixers for each band member?
I haven a question: When you're playing at different venues the volume of your amp also differs?
Helpful and much appreciated
Hey thanks for the video! Do you have a gear list breakdown list or a bit more detailed info on how you set this rig up? I am building a rig for my band and need some help understanding how to get a custom set up done. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO!!
Thanks for the video guys! I have a question. Do y’all use any processing FX in your ears (verb, compression, etc) and if so, how do you rout those into your ears?
Thanks Ian and Rhett.
What brand/model is the WiFi rack mount antenna in the rack. Couldn’t see in video. Thx.
Hey I built that rack! I’m glad it’s working well for y’all.
Nice vid guys, thanks!
That's awesome you did a charity gig.
Cool video! Very helpful for live show players. Could you please add links to the equipment you talked about in this video? That would be very helpful!
^ this is what everyone is thinking!