Lost "RNF Retro Fish" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep.70
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In this episode we have special guest Nate Yeomans join us to review the Lost RNF Retro Fish.
Nate and I enjoy good conversation around the attributes of the Retro Fish and our experiences riding this model in two different constructions with multiple fin set ups.
The Retro Fish is very versatile and goes GOOD in 1-4’ surf with multiple fin configurations. The PU construction gives it that classic retro fish vibe feeling solid on big carves and down the line speed.
Nate and I also talk about Lost’s new construction called C4 that has an EPS foam core with a thin layer of Cork covering the entire deck. This layer of cork acts as a dampener to reduce chatter, and strengthen the deck to extend the life of the board. The C4 construction has a livelier feel due to its EPS foam core. Nate and I both agree that it gives the Retro Fish a more performance feel compared to the PU adding a bit of flare or X Factor in every turn.
The Lost Retro Fish is a really fun board and I highly recommend it for surfers that range from beginners to the advanced levels.
Noel’s Height: 5’9”
Weight: 160 lbs or 72.57 kg
Stock Board DIMS: 5’2” x 19.75 x 2.32 Liters 27.25
Nate’s Height; 6’0
Weight: 180 lbs or 81.64 kg
Stock Board DIMS: 5’4” x 20.25 x 2.35 Liters 29.25 - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Man, you really know your stuff. It’s cool to see someone who can surf so well and explain what’s going on based on different boards and constructions and break that down in a way that is easy to understand.
Steven Shattuck Cheers for the kind words.
hands down the best reviews of surfboards on the internet.
Great to see you actually surf the board so we know what your talking about.
Keep up the good work in and out of the water 👍👍
thank you once again Señores Salas and Yeomans for a great sit-up review.
enjoyed it and also learned a whole lot...
cheers guys
Still one of my favorite boards from Matt!! So glad to see you review it!
Yeww! My boy Nate in da house! Good call, good review.
Super fun review and great as always!! And having NY was cool!! Superb!!!!😎🤘🤘🤙
Want to go surf now. You make that board look so fun. Great review as always 🤙
Excellent reviews of all shapes and sizes, Noel really goes in deep, to explain how and why it works. No bullshit, just true honest comments. Love your shows Noel 👍
Steve Allan Cheers
Noel I enjoy watching you surf more than the fellas on the WSL tour.
Epic board reviews too!!
This was so sick Noel. Loved hearing Nate's takes on the different techs too and why he liked them. I'm digging this board for some of the cruisy San Diego Spots.
Songs from the Classroom Epic!!! Super fun board!
Love Matt's boards. thats all i keep under my feet. loved ya review of the Psycho Killer. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew. another great review! thanx
Love how you put height, weight, and volume in the description.
Easily one of my favorite boards I have ever ridden. Very hard not to ride even when the waves solid. Super fun and versatile board
Really enjoyed this one! Twin fin options looked fun!
Great review! As always!
Such a sick board, awesome review as always
Excellent review!
The two man review is really nice. I liked the discussions you had.
Tim de Vries Epic... l liked it too.
Thank you so much for giving me an idea of what fins will fit better in to this board! The FCS Hayde Shape= performance.
The Split keels = speed and playful feeling!
Hope yo have an awesome week! Best regards from El Salvador!
Nelson Jr Fuentes Yewww
Epic review Noel! I have to try my retro with the large Hs front fins and see how that feels. I’ve been running mine with with the Futures Amt twin honeycomb and it feels really good.
danny alamina Excellent thanks for posting what fins you like in this board.
Hey Noel awesome review, I'm currently considering buying a fish for 2-6ft waves, I'm trying to choose between lost rnf retro and the chilli sugar. Also I'm 6'1" 200lbs, when it comes to sizing on fishes for a weekend warrior type like me😂
Interesting those AMK fins you loved are near identical to the Futures fiberglass twin fins that came with my old Xanadu Wave Rocket in the Tuflite construction by Surftech. As I've mentioned before, I've been surfing it in all kinds of conditions in the 2-6' range (Hawaiian scale) here on Oahu and it handles/holds really well without sliding out. I tried the Rastavich fins surfing some point breaks in Nicaragua and they were more for speed and cutbacks vs pivoting in the pocket like the AMK style fins. If you get a chance, reach out to Xanadu and do board reviews on the Wave Rocket 1 vs 2.
Cheers Noel for the continued solid board reviews
FREEDOMEDIA Sick comments... thanks for Posting.
I just started working with Xanadu on some board reviews. He sent me a couple boards for review and we’re dropping that review soon. Hopefully he will send more board models. Cheers
Looks Fun, Nasty Nate in da house.
G'day Noel, another class review mate!
I am heading into the West Aus summer and need a small wave/grovel board. I am tossing up between the RNF Retro and the Pyzel Gremlin. The fact you can surf the RNF Retro as a twin is also super appealing but not sure it would be as user friendly/versatile as the Gremlin? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Keep up the good work legend!
Check out the super siamese twin. Really fun performance fish and would love your take on it
Bringing you back Noel! But shows just how valuable and timeless your reviews are! How does this compare to the Seaside and what might be the key differences if you can remember? I bought one based on your recommendation a while back (and LOVE it!). Thank you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Seaside is faster and it can handle bigger surf.
Surf n Show Reviews thanks for the quick response! Last question. If I want to get a fish to complement my seaside, which would you recommend and why? Thanks again!
@@88jonpaul Akila Aipa Modern Fish... high performance shredding and silky smooth.
Surf n Show Reviews yewwww! 👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏻
Hi Noel! Thanks for the great review, so great that bought it! Can you kindly tell me the name of the CI checkered twin fin setup? Thank you
I colored those fins... they are called the Al Merrick Keels.
Next time i surf my quad fish im gunna throw in some keel fin twins. Looks so fun. I always wondered if it would go good and it looks like it does. Great surfing and review. 5/5
Nice review as always!
Just a question: when you used the twin setup, did you put those fins in the forward slots or in the back ones?
Bonner Figueiroa Forward boxes
Whaaaat never thought I'd see you doing a hang 5 in a review haha! Getting the groove on, love it!
Where you using the HS quad trailers with the HS large fronts, please?
Sick review as always, also cool to see guests on the show.
Felix Lux Yes, I had the Large HS1 Side fins and Medium HS Quad Rears.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks a lot Noel!
Good stuff, Noel. Think you can get a review of the new Bing Cypress, both as a quad and a 2+1?
Michael Duskus I will check it out.
Noel what fins would you choose if you can t get the haydenshapes generation? (another similar option to the HS)... Solid review cheers
Jaime Guzman I would get the L Jack Freestone Generation, and a Medium upright Quad Rear set.
Hi noel first of all thank you for the education you are providing, it's really helpfull :)
I was wondering if you had ever try the lost EZ up model?
I'm about to buy a second hand but i'm not finding reviews not sponsored by the brand and i wanted to know your thoughts about this shape? :) it's a 5.10 for 34 litters and i'm 1m88 for 82 kilos and i'm looking for a "one board quiver". I have an intermediate level
Also i wanted to know: when you choose a board, for the floatability you look up first the volume (i've read around 0.40 litters for each kilograms you weight if you are intermediate), but for the length is it only feeling/comfort matter or what?
I hope it wasnt too painfull for you to read this, english is not my native language
MrShmilblic Your English is fine... a good rule of thumb is take your weight and divide it by 6. Example my weight is 160lbs divide that by 6 and my liters are 26.6. That would be on the high side for me but it’s close enough. On another note I use the liters as a guide to board dims. I don’t like longer boards.., they make me feel like I am surfing in slow motion... hard to turn and make them fit in small pockets.
I have not tried that model sorry.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks
Awesome review …. Top..
I bought this board as a custom - based on your review (again!!). Can you please clarify which exact Hayden fins you spoke about in the video? Thank you!!
I rode the Haydenshapes HS1 with the Haydenshapes Quad Rears
Hi Noel, do you ever just take a fin and chop it up into a shape you think might give you the feel you’re going for? I wouldn’t feel comfortable shaping a surfboard but I’ve started modifying FCS glass flex (the cheap ones) fins and I’ve been surprisingly happy with some of my experiments. Any thoughts on this?
David Valdes Sounds fun... I have not tried anything like that before. No thoughts about it at this time....
I just thought I’d throw it out there since you liked the Rasta twins but felt like you needed a bit more stability. I haven’t been riding quads that long but love the AM large fronts as well as the FireWire fronts but I had to make my own rears that would keep the board playful because the stock rears of those sets just didn’t to the trick & the glass flex is pretty easy to cut, file and sand. Not knocking the R&D and tech of the factory product, I just couldn’t find a set of four that I liked. Thanks for your awesome reviews!!!
Another great review Noel! Are you able to get your hands on the new CI Fish as well? Would be a great comparison!
Karl Jakobsson I hope so!!
@surfnshowreviews7777, another great review; I can't wait to hear what you think about their new Pisces and how it compares to both this and, maybe more importantly, the ring 96. The new Lost Picses has a 5-fin setup, which gives you a ton more flexibility from a fin perspective, but it looks like the tail is a cross between the retro and 96. Can't wait to hear what you think about it
I can’t wait to ride mine!!!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 any idea when a review may becoming?
Hey, hyd? Would you recomend this fish over the RNF 96 for a one board quiver. Currently on a 6'0 foamie with 47l, from which i've learned (i think i slready commented this in other video of yourd), but i dont know if i should upgrade yet, and to which one. I am starting to get walls and consistent wave carching. Definitely more attracted to this one on style, but that isnt the point isnt it? Thanks in advance!
I highly recommend the RNF 96. It’s easier to shred and offers way more performance
Good day. If you could only surf one board for a year and your two choices were, puddle fish or rnf retro what would you choose? 👍🏼
Tony Whitridge Tough one... I would go Retro. I want to learn how to surf fish type boards better. The Retro has a classic feel to it compared to the PF.
Hey Great Video man. I’m a beginner/intermediate and was wondering how you would compare this to the FireWire Seaside? I’m leaning more towards this but wanted someone else opinion who actually knows what there talking about. Thank you!
The Seaside is easier to shred. It paddles better, it’s faster, and has a bigger sweet spot so it’s more forgiving. I suggest the Seaside
Noel how do you think captain fin co npj quartet fins would go with this board??
J0llygiant They look pretty good. For me it’s all about fin depth for more control on these wide tail boards. A fin with a bit more rake will help with that too.
Hey Noel thanks for the great review. I’m looking at this board and the Machado Go Fish and was wondering if you could give any feedback on noticeable differences in the way they surf and wave range/type?
Nick Siebenmorgen The GO Fish was a tough surf for me... my first Twin Fin ever. I had a hard time getting traction on my turns but if your used to surfing Twin Fins I am sure you will Shred it.
The Retro Fish as a Quad is epic... fast, responsive, and good traction. I could push hard on my turns as a Quad. Using the Keel fins as a Twin Fin was next level fun for me. Good traction and really fun.
The Retro Fish is really versatile and easier to surf and you can run all kinds of fin set ups too. Cheers
Noel in your opinion which of all the RNF line is the best high performance oriented?
Gonna custom one asap.
ThePokerSurfer I’ve only tried this one and it was a blast!!! Custom one of these.
Noel great review as always! Loving the fact you rode it as a twinny. I'm not a quad surfer but love the twin. Was nearly going to pass this board by based on the quad fin emphasis. It's now on my can I sell a few things and get one list thanks jon
Jon Kennard Epic... dell some stuff and get one. Let me know how it goes for you.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 incidentally quick question please about volume. I've increased the volume in my boards the past year. Whilst I can surf less my boards are between 29 - 31 litres. Would you recommend similar or a touch more 5 6 @ 32 for added paddling power not to mention all the winter neoprene thanks Jon
Jon Kennard If 31 liters feels good then you might be ok. 1 liter more foam will float an extra 10 lbs and a wet 4/3 might be 6 lbs.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 ok thanks winter here is a 5/4 affair. I'm kinda trying to work out whether although litres might be the same the board is a lot smaller in length so therefore does it feel more boaty. Anyway thanks I'll work it out harder to get lost boards over here. 5 6 seems to be the smallest stock available
Hi Noel! Would you say that the PU construction has more of a corky feel compared to the C4 construction? Also, how do you feel about CI’s spine tek?
C4 will feel more corky compared to PU. The Spinetek construction is legit. Excellent pop and projection through turns and very consistent too
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Noel, your input is extremely appreciated and as always the final and last verdict! I’ve bought quite a few boards and fin setups based on your thorough reviews. Going to drop a special note to CI “Referred by Noel.”
Don't forget Kelly and
Al Merrick had a Huge part of progressive surfing for where it is today....🤔👍🏻
Thanks for another great review. You had the DHD Twin & Mini Twin a while ago with the intention of reviewing them, I have been waiting. Are they still coming? Would love to see your review of them. Would like to know how they compare to the RNF as a twin as well?
Ken Kohncke The Folks at DHD changed their minds on giving me those two boards for review. I had them on order and they said sorry not sending them. Bummer... those boards look so fun. Cheers
Thinking the same about the js monsta8. Been waiting......... Cheers for detailed reviews.
EN d I am working on the Monsta 8 review right now. Hang tight guys...
Hey Noel, awesome review! I'm looking at getting one but I've never ridden fishes! I currently ride a 6'4 shortboard and I'm 6'3 and weigh around 180. What size of the RNF Retro would you recommend me? Cheers and keep the reviews coming!!
Barmat I would go maybe 1 liter more than your short board.
Surf n Show Reviews okay great, what about the size?? I was thinking on a 5’11 maybe
Barmat If that’s the liters you like... is your normal HPSB roughly 38 liters?
Mate, how come the right tail piece is much lower than the left one (left board on the wall) ?
Mathieu Revel there pretty close when I put them on.
So lucky to have consistent swells to rip in.
bodhi tree Epic waves for the whole Summer!!! Now Fall is going off too. Were hoping for an epic winter. Cheers
Would you recommend this board over the FireWire seaside for a lower end intermediate surfer?
I like the Seaside better
Really fun board
hi, is that creature pad is normal size? or a wide version?
It’s been a while since this review so it’s hard for me to remember. I believe it’s a wider pad.
Another nice review! Did you prefer this board or the Puddle fish?
Jean-Simon Lamarre This Board has a more classic feel compared to the Puddle Fish. The Puddle Fish has a bit more performance feel to it.
Do you think a lower intermediate could ride it? 5’8 160 pounds. Maybe a stock 5’11?
Charles Hawk Absolutely
Love the review. If you could only get one, would you go rnf retro or firewire seaside?
Kevin McMinn RNF has a more classic vibe to it. Seaside offers a little more speed and performance
Surf n Show Reviews Appreciate the response and insight. Would you recommend one over the other for someone with a skill set of sub-intermediate and looking to step into their first short board from riding 7ft mini mals? Looking for something that can provide some forgiveness as I learn and the range to have fun in east coast summer slop but also confidence venturing into 5-6 ft waves when it picks up. Any other boards you’d recommend over these two? Thanks again, and as a new comer to your channel, I can’t get enough!
Kevin McMinn A lot of good Boards to choose from for you. Have a look at the LOST/MR CA Twin, CI Ultra Joe, Pyzel Astro Pop, and Machado Seaside. All of these boards will go good.... remember foam is your friend as you step down to a shorter board. Cheers
Do you plan to test Tomo’s Hydronaut?
Nice review! I’d love for you to do a review part 2 of this with the Catch Surf version of the Lost RNF Odysea.
yeah you should do a couple softops
They are too much fun, it would ruin Noel forever ;) Have one myself and love it for shorebreak kind of stuff, but foamies can't beat a real board...yet.
Felix Lux I agree that nothing will beat a custom, my brother in law shapes for CI. What I’m wondering about is soft tops for beating around when the waves are trash here on the mainland. Not into the big wavestorms, so the RNF Odysea caught my attention
Whats up Noel! Hey do you think The new fcs Britt Merrick TWIN FINS works on that rnf retro?
Maybe… they might not offer enough hold backside. I suggest my HP Keels. They offer excellent performance, hold, and drive. Check them out here…
surfnshow.com/products/surf-n-show-hp-keels-twin-fins
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I just bought the Ci keel and Im loving it. What about the mayhem quad split keels? What's your opnion ?
@@brunoshadow Fast down the line but not much drive through turns
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for your attention bro.
A few of us were waiting for a review on this design. How does it compare to CI twin?
Has Chad at Patagonia in Encinitas asked u to review the Rasta Twin? He said he would. Ive also had my eye on that. Ithink it's called Torus
IzandEva Inmyheart This Board is a Quad first of all but it performed very well as a twin. I was shocked it went so well with no center fin too.
The CI Twin is a really fun board but it has small center fin so it has a little something to pivot off of and it has a bit more High Performance feeling because of it.
This Retro Fish goes really good as a Quad.... you can really push hard on your turns and it has incredible hold.
I have not heard from anyone on a request for the Rastavich Twin. Sounds fun to me... who shapes that board?
@@surfnshowreviews7777
Gary Mcneill
I believe he is David Rastovich's main shaper. There are a couple yt vids where he explains their partnership and unique designs using unique materials.
I've held the Torus in my hands a few times. It just has that incredible feel of craftsmanship and shredability. Inspired by George Greenough bottom I believe. Also Pategonia says they're selling like crazy. Mcneilinstagram.com/garymcneillconcepts/?hl=en
IzandEva Inmyheart Now that you mention it I do remember the introduction to McNeill. Sorry... I reached out to McNeill roughly a month ago... he didn’t seem to into our show. He also wants me to pay for boards. I don’t think a review on his boards is going to happen for a while. Sorry
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Oh well....plenty of other boards in the sea to review
That spiral grip wax stuff looks cool, what is it?
Peter Djordjevich wax trax
WAXTRAK.COM
Noel...Awesome review as always!!! For a groveler can you speak about this board vs Pyzel Gremlin? How would performance differ? Is one better for 1-3? Which did you prefer? Aloha
-Prem This Retro Fish will Grovel good but it’s not meant to be a performance Fish. It’s more of a classic design with made for speed and big carves.
The Gremlin is a high performance Groveler... pocket surfing, carves, airs, etc....
The Retro Fish has great maneuverability rail to rail but it’s not really designed for pocket surfing. Most fishes aren’t.
Thanks Noel! Really appreciate the reply.🤙🏽
Quality!
which one is better this board or the seaside?
b s I like the Seaside better
Hey Noel
Awesome review again have not missed one yet, not for this board but just wondering l don’t think l have seen you in a review with the Julian Wilson fin from FCS, any particular reason?
Keep up the great work my credit card provider loves you!
P.S. any chance of a review on the lost beach buggy 2?
Trevor Hocking I have not had a board with FCSII plugs in a while. I am starting to try them now in the new Air Core Tech. Hang tight.
How about the beach buggy 2? I have one n would like to see your thoughts?
Trevor Hocking That Board is not on our review list at this time. Lost has a few new models coming out for 2019 and we have those on order for review. Sorry
Are you going to do a review on the updated model?
I don’t think so… sorry
Careful, you may end up like shred show and get hired by one of these companies😉
Vaughan Heilman Chris Grow’s Shred Show is epic!!
Dude, I was thinking the same thing lol
*was epic 😔
Comparing the go fish and this board what the difference and what feels better
Xabier xabi Well the GO Fish is designed as a true Twin Fin and this Retro Fish is designed to be a Quad so there are two major differences right there.
For me this Retro Fish was very easy to surf and had excellent traction as a Quad. It also had great traction with the CI Keel fins but it was a bit out of control with the Rasta Twin set up.
The GO Fish was difficult for me to surf at first but front side I felt like I was starting to figure it out. Back side I couldn’t stop it from sliding out on my turns. I think if I spent more time on the GO Fish I would really enjoy surfing it.
Between these two boards as twin fins the Retro Fish was easier for me to surf.
Nice, thanks.... waiting now to see the midas surf board
Noel got a 5 7 lined up managed to pick one up second hand. Actually think the extra foam will be fun. Anyway my question please is out of the keels you used which would you recommend the most? I personally thought you went best on the channel island but don't want to sway your thoughts. Thanks again Jon
P.s when you coming to surf in the UK is pumping currently 🤙
Jon Kennard I like the CI Keel fins for sure. The Rastavich fins felt a little too loose and hard to control.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Noel thank you very much I'll let you know how it goes 🤙
Last one I promise but can't seem to source any amk future keel fins anywhere. I have emailed CI but this look pretty similar without seeing the amk stats
www.surfsurfsurf.co.uk/futures-surfboard-fins-/koalition-keels-surfboard-fin-set-tropical-leaves-futures?gclid=CjwKCAiArK_fBRABEiwA0gOOc9cxmX1Y4A-JDQegNiXtuxF1e2ahp6E40zNbsYm1ARNW7mhqQxRIfhoCtuQQAvD_BwE
Jon Kennard CI has them in stock but they have them in True Ames. That’s what I used for this review, but Futures will be making them and they will be available This December on the Futures website.
If you want a True Ames set now give them a call.
Hey Noel how does it compare to the Channel Islands Fish?
The CI Fish is one of the hardest Twin Fins I’ve surfed to get two good turns in a row without the nose catching. My least favorite boards..
This RNF Retro Fish is fast and fun.... I recommend the RNF Retro.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel. That’s much appreciated. Can you use the Al Merrick keels on the Lost?
@@tieganmaixx yes
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Seaside OR CI Retro Fish? Thanks
marcos2305 Seaside is a bit more performance and the Retro Fish has a more classic vibe. The Retro will still do performance turns but it has a more classic outline.
Can’t help feeling like there’s a bit too much width in the nose compared to the sleek, double side cut back third of the board and that it gets hung up in the lip when going too vert. It looks like the tail + sidecuts pushes you to go high performance but then the nose + swing weight let’s you down. Just an observation. Otherwise great info on the different tech’s, fins and even tailpads!
Valdo van Zyl Not sure This Board is not designed to go vertical but I understand what your saying.
Valdo van Zyl That’s what gives it the glide and makes it a fish! If you think that’s a lot then look at a Lis.
867 5309 sorry but disagree, traditional Lis style fishes have a wider, more parallel bottom half and are meant for glide and horizontal surfing which is not so much the case for this board.
@@valdo9482 For sure, but you originally said this fish had too much width forward and my point was that's how a fish gets its glide and that the width forward on this Lost fish is minimal compared to a Steve Lis fish.
Valdo van Zyl My comment I said it was designed for vertical surfing... I meant it’s NOT designed for vertical surfing. Sorry for any confusion. I also fixed my comment.
Noel do you think this board in a legitimate twin fin configuration would go bananas?
Just so so… the 96 is way better as a Twin
None of this is 70's surfing LOL! I love fish. On that list for next year
monkeypawism I want more of that 70’s vibe in my surfing on boards like this. Cheers
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I meant to say "ripping" way more than 70's. I understand your comment now.
Hey man, whats the name of the intro song? loved it
Cold Tech The song is called Maybeline by Ron Artis II. I put the song name and Artist at the beginning of every review.....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Broo
What's a spiral V?
Eric Disque This re-curved area at the bottom edge of the rail begin to “spiral” as it move downward and inward toward the stringer, hence the name, “spiral vee.” Belly. Bellied, or rolled, bottoms are generally rounded convex features. They can be subtly rolled, or highly domed.
Can u review the Firewire Midas please.
Monty8eight Firewire said there not sure they want a review on that board at this time sorry.
Interesting. More telling then a review itself. Keep ripping.
Review the Channel Islands Semi-Pro 12!!!
Calvin Cameron That’s an older model... do you have one? Your the only surfer asking for that board to be reviewed.
Surf n Show Reviews hahaha yeah about to buy one
Can we have a rusty chupacabra review
That Kidd I have asked Rusty for boards and no solid answers yet. Sorry
Noel needs to do a average Joe show for boards that allow the average joe to up their game.
Not for beginners as it seems
Roi Rabinek Not really... check out the Hydra by Lost. I always suggest a longboard for beginners.
Surf n Show Reviews like I mean for people that comes from a long/soft board and looking for their first short