I’ve been anticipating this review from you. I almost bought this exact bike. It’s truly a beautiful machine. And hand made in Italy at the same factory where Moto Guzzi have been made for a century or so. Glad you are enjoying it. Please keep the videos coming.
This reminds me of a conversation I had many, many years ago. I was asking a mate, who had a T3 at the time, about reliability. His response was that there was nothing major that you could identify as a common issue but "things happen". Seems nothing has changed over past 40 years.
Having been a Moto Guzzi owner for a while now and had three different models ranging from a 1999 Cali to a 2008 1200 sport , it's good to know that the new V7 has a few ( It's a Guzzi thing) bits as well . The Moto Guzzi GB club is a mind of info as are the forums , it's a funny thing to say but the Guzzi things have made the community and the bikes sort of special .
Have to agree, bought mine new last May & have covered 4500 miles, I can’t wait to hop on it whenever I can, people almost always come to have a look & a chat even at the petrol station
The starting issue is well known apparently, I had the starter switch changed under warranty during a service. The dealer said they they have changed a few on these and there was no issue from them to replace it. Needless to say problem solved. I have the V7 Special and reckon this is the best all rounder I have ever owned. BTW you should get around 250 miles out of that tank so not having a fuel gauge to me is not an issue.
Surely that's what motorcycling is all about i.e. how it makes you feel! that's why I ride a Moto Guzzi Bellagio and have owned it for over16 years. Certainly puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. Your bike is very good looking, I'm sure people will appreciate looking at it at Bike meets and Bike cafe's .
Thanks for the video. I got the V7 Special 2 weeks ago. Done 160 miles so far in the rain. Going out this morning (freezing !). I've ordered a centre stand and a front mudguard extension. Before buying, I looked at the Royal Enfield and the Bonneville but when I saw the Moto Guzzi, I was sold. 3 plusses: the looks, the 21L fuel tank and the shaft drive. Still getting used to it as I haven't ridden in 15 years.
Hi I bought the V7 850 special in Dec love the looks, sound and the fact you don’t see many guzzi’s around. If you want luggage take a look at Longride, I also bought a front mudguard extension and crash bars Caio for now 👍🏻
Comprehensively put, once again, Dave. You certainly are in possession of a real beauty there. Really looking forward to learning your full appraisals in future rides, once fully run-in. In 1980 my Dad had an 850 T3 and starts, particularly cold ones, we're always an event. Fitted with a car sized Bosch battery, Magneti Marelli starter motor, huge Dell'Orto carbs, that could suck in babies in passing prams, and an on/off choke, the whole bike would shake and wobble before bursting gloriously into life. Happy days. My, how times have moved on. 😄 Dad said it was the sweetest handling bike he'd ever owned. He later had a BMW R100RS and though excellent, always felt the Moto Guzzi's handling was noticeably superior. It also had linked brakes by a company called... um.. Brembo. Well, I never! The discs were cast iron that oxidized orange after a few days of non use but would always provide superlative braking, regardless of weather conditions. Your comment regarding warm legs is familiar. Once owned a Honda CX500 (remember the old 'Plastic Maggot'? 😄) in the early 80s and whilst the upper torso and fingers always felt frozen on winter days, I always had toasty kneecaps, for some reason. 😄 As always, nice one pal. You own a bike with fine heritage. 👍
I really like the V7, always have and your video’s really do wet my appetite for one. As for the clutch; my Honda CD175 clutch sticks a little when the bikes not been used in a bit. So, when you pull in the clutch to engage first the bike jumps forward and stalls. This is just the clutch plates sticking and is a common issue, the cable is not affected. Not saying this is the issue with your V7; Just the effects are similar. A superb video Dave; enjoyed the ride and banter too you’re a great ambassador for our lovely sport of motorcycling. Ride safe fella. Neil
Thanks Dave for taking me on your ride and review of your Moto Guzzi. All bikes have their little niggles depending on the seasons and temperatures. Ride safe. Cheers
Looks like you were headed out to Tadcaster/Church Fenton there Dave. This weather doesn't hold you back does it! Good to see you getting out......despite the weather! I couldn't believe the state of the roads around Boston Spa......they could catch you out! Anyhow, stunning bike that makes a stunning sound. Ride safe! Best Dave (N. Yorks)
Lovely balanced review, have just bought a 2023 V7 Special lovely to ride and a totally different bike to previous big four cylinder bikes and a Royal Enfield Interceptor.Keep up the reviews.
I very much admire Moto Guzzi for staying with tradition and making such wonderful machines available to us. I’d love a twin clock setup and the V85 power output but I’m just being picky I guess……awesome 👍
Wouldn't you guess, I've just asked where you'd bought the bike and two minutes later you mentioned it. Oh dear, I'll learn to add comment at the end. Regards the clutch, if it's old school it's likely to have stuck as we used to say on the old bikes due to standing. This was quite common on the older bikes as they ran a dry clutch. We used to put the bike in gear and rock it back and forth to free things off. Condensate inside the engine, particularly in the winter when parked up in cold weather, would create a light rust coating on the clutch plates. Nothing to worry about but you've mentioned in your earlier video how the condensate covered the bike's,😅 this also happens inside the engine. Probably loads of comments but the symptoms sound identical to me.
I have clocked 22000km on mine and agree with the points you make. I dont mind the lack of a fuel guage as i find the fuel info the bike does give you in conjunction with the trip meter way more accurate than a guage is likely to be snd the fuel lught comes on when theres still a large reserve available. It also keeps track of how many ks youve done while on "reserve" A bit of math makes me feel more like a pilot than rider....lol. re hesitation in starting, glad you mentioned that. Thought it was just mine. Only issue i have had is random check engine lights which is also a known issue . Good review. Enjoy your oncoming spring. Autumn in my part of the world
TBW the Italian mistress is as raucous & passionate as its owner. A match made from the beauty of Mandello De Lario 🇮🇹. She can be high maintenance, but those curves, long legs & red heels make you forget your grievances. She takes your breath away…
I like Moto Guzzi because it doesn't blindly seek high power. He likes all the V7 series, but he especially likes the coloring of the V7 Stone Corsa. If you can afford to own one, V7 Stone Corsa is your #1 candidate to buy.
Dave!, I'm jealous, This could have been me, right now riding a Moto Guzzi Classic 750. The second hand bike l looked forward to riding in the hilly areas of Spain has been thwarted by bureaucracy and ageism. Hearing that soft heart beat of your bike is just so soothing...l bet you are really looking forward to riding the Guzzi in the summer months ...Greeting from España
Enjoying my V9 as well, no starter lag or issues but on the very first ride the gear linkage actuating rod decided it was leaving the ride! Nursed it home stuck in gear and quickly remedied with replacement rod under warrantly but hopefully never have that happen again. Otherwise a neat change of pace bike and love the character, like you though I shake my head as why a fuel gage wasn't included!
You are finally back on the V7! I see that you have not yet upgraded your wardrobe to be more suave and “Italian” as you said you would. I have a new Stone with the exact problem you describe with the starter! Instant panic for sure, especially when neither of us have a dealer nearby. I found many things loose on the new bike. I had to tighten the clutch up significantly as the cable was flopping around. The handlebar bolts were hardly tightened. I now have managed to adjust the clutch cable in the center of the adjustment zone on the top by the hand and the bottom by the engine. All good now. The bike feels like it could have a problem at any moment (not reliable feeling like the Japanese bikes). After the first service at 800 miles the valves were clattering severely and sounded like they were smacking against the cylinder heads-more so on the right side. I pulled over and called the dealer. I returned slowly to the shop. The mechanic said these sound like that and worse. He readjusted the right side and it was then much quieter … at least not sounding like it was going to break! First service was over $400!
Hiya - Mel from Lichfield (Staffs) here. I too have a guzzi V7 850 stone. Love the bike (2nd Guzzi)! - Good owners review - However your issue with the starter is deffo not my experience. Mine has no delay and starts instantly every time even when left after a fortnight (and i don't have in on a conditioner. I am also lucky enough the live by Arnolds Guzzi dealer (Burton on Tent) and get to ride several used guzzi bikes that come and not ever encountered this issue !. I have several bikes but both the Guzzi and the my Enfield classic bullet always make me smile. If you want a non starter then you should come and ride my 1966 BSA Spitfire! that really puts muscles on your right leg ! Agree with you - Never ever found and issue by not having a fuel gauge! and i ride on feel of the engine re changing gear and don't need the gear indicator (just as well as it is pretty useless! and the usb under the seat is err not to clever a move either!
Thoroughly enjoyed the ride along Dave. A Moto Guzzi will be in my garage soon, most probably a V85 Strada. Together with a Classic 350 I think that’s the perfect pairing. Keep the Guzzi videos coming…
The waiting seconds between pushing the start button and engine start is a non documented feature also on other Piaggio products, such as the Vespa GTS 300. It sometimes needs 2 seconds to come alive, especially when cold and standing long.
I had the forerunner of this bike a 750 Breva, bought secondhand with 8000 miles on the clock, by the time it 16000 it was much smoother and the gear change was better. Guzzis definitely get better with age, I had a SPADA 3 with over 100,000 on the clock and the engine was as sweet as a nut.
25:10 My Gen 3 KLR will do that (or something like that) if I leave it in gear overnight. It's not an adjustment issue, but the plates sticking. I learned quickly to always leave it in neutral.
I've owned the Griso 8v for 11 years and can't fault it. The motors are bulletproof (apart from the startus interruptus issue and early flat tappet dlc debacle).
I have a 2010 V7 Classic and considering moving in to a new Guzzi. Just not sure if I keep with the same style with a Special 850, or the modern look of the Stone Special 850. Surprisingly, here in the States Guzzi’s popularity seems to be growing immensely lately. I’ve been seeing A LOT of people purchasing the V7 Stone Special. I might just have to leave it to the flip of a coin to decide because I think both models are gorgeous in their own right. Great video and thanks for sharing with us!
They’re both great bikes and it’s all down to individual tastes. I nearly went for the Special but something about the Stone Special spoke to me. Either way you’ll love the bike. Thank you for your kind comments 😊👍🏻
sur le point d'avoir la même après avoir essayé la version 2021 et les sensations sont parfaites pour avoir la banane. La précédente une Harley dyna superglide custom de 2005 ((FXDCI) malgré un bon souvenir j'ai l'impression que je vais pas la regretter ...
Good morning Dave another good video. One thing that is very evident from your footage is the truly shocking state of the roads, how on earth are they deemed fit for purpose, there was a particularly terrible bit on the approach to one of the roundabouts,near Wetherby ?.
Good morning Dave, I really love your videos it’s as though you are taking us along with you to experience the sights and sounds along the way. As for the starting ‘problem’ my car has a one touch start button (like some Suzuki motorcycles) and it can be a few seconds before is does anything whilst it performs a self test procedure, maybe this is what is happening with your MG? Andy.
Morning Dave great looking bike but I am bias as you know 😉 I purchased a V7 850 special in December and love it😊 for the people below commenting about twin clocks the special comes with twin clocks and chrome exhausts & spoked wheels it’s a keeper and I’ve fitted a fenda extenda, crashbars, one pannier with panniers rails and getting some extra lights fitted soon. Carry on that man Caio for now 👍🏻
I've had a V9 Bobber for six months and, believe me, that IS a marmite bike even by Guzzi standards. I love it but it definately has some idiosyncrasies. It requires a totally different riding style to my other bike, a Honda CB400SS, it hates the bumpy back lanes but get on an open road and its glorious. It has a piece of tape on the speedo glass to cover the high beam indicator which is so bright its better to be on low beam. I fitted a piece of rubber to cover the gap between the rear mudguard and the swingarm to stop crap getting onto the clutch arm (don't know if the V7 is the same) and a small screen so I can hold on !
Hi Dave Great video…re the clutch, this could have been something so simple as a little dirt off of the winter roads getting into the cable casing. This would explain why it was resolved by adjusting slightly to loosen it all away. Could literally happen to any motorcycle ridden this time of year in the UK. Sometimes my own Interceptor takes 2 or 3 seconds to fire up after pressing start so also not as uncommon and confined to the Moto Guzzi.
One of the reasons I preferred the old school carb fed engined motorcycles ,was the reserve tap on the fuel cock . The amount in reserve was usually plenty to get you to several petrol stations ,so there was no excuse for running out of fuel . I find the fuel gauges are often very inaccurate ,especially the ones on Italian bikes & scooters ,some say half empty when full . Regards the clutch cable issues I always work the clutch lever in & out in neutral whist the bike is warming up on tick over ,when bike has been standing for good while . This helps to free off clutch plates, actuators & cables ,on bikes that have been standing for a good while . Italian bikes tend to have character ,but you have to be prepared to accept the fact ,that they can be as temperamental as an Italian wife who has caught her husband with another women in their marriage bed . It’s all good fun 😎👍
I had a similar situation with the clutch on a kawasaki klr650 after it stood for a while over winter. It was in a heated storage. Pulled clutch in and started it up and it lurched forward. Did that twice. On the third try it was fine All i can think is that the clutch pressure plate fused together with the flywheel slightly. I change my oil religiously and there was nothing wrong with the oil. Some suggest it could be the resin in the clutch pads or rust. Maybe galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals in the clutch.
Hi Dave Just a quick message to let you know that Via Moto in Sheffield are a Moto Guzzi dealership along with Aprillia and Piaggio, probably further from you than Leeds but nearer than Nottingham i m sure, gives you another option if needed, keep up with the great content.
The V7 is a lovely retro with real character, I often wish (hope) MG would take a look at their back catalogue and produce a V7 derived 850 T3 California, if they did I would be first in the queue. On the dealer/service side , have you considered Teasdale Motorcycles in Thirsk ?old school dealer that's good to deal with and not a million miles from Bingley.
Morning, it's a great bike regarding the points you made, the fuel range is in excess of 250 miles, happy days. The switch gear definitely needs a squirt of acf50 or gt85 into it for us Brits and our rainy weather to protect it. We were in Wales, the heavens opened and the main beam switch went in to silly mode re how it would function. Since we occasionally give it acf50 it's all good regardless of weather. The clutch and gear mechanisms are not that well protected from the grime as the rear wheel flings loads at it. Again well worth, getting behind the rear wheel and rinsing down all the linkage and again acf50/gt85 always being reapplied. Other than that, 13000 miles in a year, zero other issues.
On my V7 I put a piece of rubber mudflap from the bottom of the rear mudguard to the swinging arm ...it stops all the crud going on the clutch actuating arm ...it works really well .
Nice report! I think calling this bike "retro" is a bit of a disservice. Moto Guzzi has been producing bikes like this since 1921. For me, retro is something meant to harken back to the old days. This bike never left. Which is why I like it!
Being a GoldStar owner i obviously go for bikes with character and if I was to swop it in I'd go for the W800 or the Guzzi but for me it must have wire wheels, twin clocks and a chrome or stainless exhaust i don't like blacked out exhaust's on any bike and that includes the GoldStar and the V 7, just a personal choice.
They are good bikes. Can see one being my future. But while i'm still able, the grunt of the big bore Guzzi's is hard to leave behind. No need for near by dealers. Easy home maintenance.
Hi, I am looking at trading in my Ducati Scrambler 1100 for something a little easier to maintain long term. Comfort is everything to me. I'm looking at KTM 790, Honda Hornet, GSX8S, Speed Twin 900 and Guzzi V7 850. I'm not looking for speed. Kent roads are absolutely terrible so soft and easy suspension is my first consideration. Which of the above bikes would you rule out/ test ride with that in mind.
I have my eye on one, low mileage with a few comfort extras. I found out the other day that it does not have a fuel gauge on a 2022 model. So how panicky should one get when the fuel light comes on? Wishing you well & safe on your rides out.
Dave. I have a BMW Urban GS that also only has a fuel light. A little trick I learned was to fill the tank, set the trip meter to zero and then make a mental note of when the light came on. On my Bike it's about 170 miles.( But you have to remember this!).Now everytime I fill up I set the trip meter to zero and I know that as it approaches 170 miles the light will soon be coming on. It almost acts like a fuel guage and removes the panic of the light coming on suddenly and catching you off guard. So I will often top up when it's reading 160 miles to beat the light!!😂
I have an 2018 V7iii Milano that I purchased several months ago with only 673 miles on it. Also have that start button issue as does a friend of mine with his recently-purchased 2021 model with only 1500 miles on it! He's having his switch replaced by the dealer (+/-$400!). I'm waiting to see if that solves his problem, then might do the same. In the mean time, it only happens now and then so I'm tolerating it. I did notice that, if you hold the start button in for a few seconds, it usually engages. I'm just disappointed that Moto Guzzi doesn't test these things well enough before they go into production to make sure everything works and is reliable. I'm sure they source these switches from another company, and it's that company that should step and fix this issue if multiple owners have the problem.
Hi David I've watched all your videos and I don't seem to have heard you mention where you bought the bike. The only dealer I've sourced is at Sheffield, can you enlighten your subscribers please.
Good morning Dave, I’ve been awaiting this video. As we bought ours at the same time I’m near enough at the same point as you. For my viewpoint I would ask, is the Guzzi retro ? I think unlike many of the competition that have gone back to earlier years and tried to modernise what was an old design. The Guzzi has merely morphed into its present state and not looked back at all. Yes the Guzzi has far more noticeable poke than the Enfields and the engine is a dream. There’s no doubt that it will move and handle great especially when it’s fully run in. At present mine is getting around 70mpg and a 250 mile range is easily achieved. I haven’t had the starter issue you raise but that may be just good luck. The horn is pitiful and has been changed for something more meaty. I also got a centre stand fitted as it makes things so much easier. ( They should be standard on all bikes in my opinion ) I would love to have a longer fitting front mudguard as even with the fender extender fitted it throws up some right crap onto the engine. My chrome headers have already begun to discolour but that doesn’t worry me at all. The only problem I’ve had was a puncture in the rear tyre, what I discovered then was the traction control realises there is a problem and the engine almost shuts down. I’ve never experienced that before on a bike but with hindsight it could be a good idea. Overall I love the bike so far there’s just something about that rock and roll feeling that I love. Finally the big winner is that shaft drive, I just can’t be bothered with chain maintenance anymore. But I am a lazy ar*e
Morning Pal yes I agree that the V7 is more a product of evolution than creation perhaps it’s just a classic full stop. I’m on the case for a horn upgrade. Worth knowing that the ecu can detect a puncture not heard of that before…clever stuff
I love the sum of this bikes parts but still couldnt buy. Have you ever seen channel CG rides and his love and hatred of the bike, his patience and awful MG service. All centred on the ECU. For that reason I could not buy one. On his vlog he is not the only one with faults. I can see your excellent relationship with dealers so hope you will be looked after should you encounter a problem but hopefully like so many other MG lovers you will not. I know this is probably rubbish advice but… I had a hyundai car that did exactly the same with the starter, turn the key and 5s later started. In the end it was an electric switch related to the clutch( which was cable operated clutch) Hyundai fixed it but cant remember what it was. You did have to depress the clutch to start it, not sure that applied to your MG?
I’ve been anticipating this review from you. I almost bought this exact bike. It’s truly a beautiful machine. And hand made in Italy at the same factory where Moto Guzzi have been made for a century or so. Glad you are enjoying it. Please keep the videos coming.
Cheers Clint will do 👍🏻
This reminds me of a conversation I had many, many years ago. I was asking a mate, who had a T3 at the time, about reliability. His response was that there was nothing major that you could identify as a common issue but "things happen". Seems nothing has changed over past 40 years.
Having been a Moto Guzzi owner for a while now and had three different models ranging from a 1999 Cali to a 2008 1200 sport , it's good to know that the new V7 has a few ( It's a Guzzi thing) bits as well . The Moto Guzzi GB club is a mind of info as are the forums , it's a funny thing to say but the Guzzi things have made the community and the bikes sort of special .
Have to agree, bought mine new last May & have covered 4500 miles, I can’t wait to hop on it whenever I can, people almost always come to have a look & a chat even at the petrol station
9:25 This is probably the best-looking bike I've ever seen. Nick
The starting issue is well known apparently, I had the starter switch changed under warranty during a service. The dealer said they they have changed a few on these and there was no issue from them to replace it. Needless to say problem solved. I have the V7 Special and reckon this is the best all rounder I have ever owned. BTW you should get around 250 miles out of that tank so not having a fuel gauge to me is not an issue.
Surely that's what motorcycling is all about i.e. how it makes you feel! that's why I ride a Moto Guzzi Bellagio and have owned it for over16 years. Certainly puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. Your bike is very good looking, I'm sure people will appreciate looking at it at Bike meets and Bike cafe's .
Cracking looking and sounding bike enjoy
Thanks for the video. I got the V7 Special 2 weeks ago. Done 160 miles so far in the rain. Going out this morning (freezing !). I've ordered a centre stand and a front mudguard extension. Before buying, I looked at the Royal Enfield and the Bonneville but when I saw the Moto Guzzi, I was sold. 3 plusses: the looks, the 21L fuel tank and the shaft drive.
Still getting used to it as I haven't ridden in 15 years.
Hi I bought the V7 850 special in Dec love the looks, sound and the fact you don’t see many guzzi’s around. If you want luggage take a look at Longride, I also bought a front mudguard extension and crash bars Caio for now 👍🏻
Comprehensively put, once again, Dave. You certainly are in possession of a real beauty there. Really looking forward to learning your full appraisals in future rides, once fully run-in.
In 1980 my Dad had an 850 T3 and starts, particularly cold ones, we're always an event. Fitted with a car sized Bosch battery, Magneti Marelli starter motor, huge Dell'Orto carbs, that could suck in babies in passing prams, and an on/off choke, the whole bike would shake and wobble before bursting gloriously into life. Happy days. My, how times have moved on. 😄 Dad said it was the sweetest handling bike he'd ever owned. He later had a BMW R100RS and though excellent, always felt the Moto Guzzi's handling was noticeably superior. It also had linked brakes by a company called... um.. Brembo. Well, I never! The discs were cast iron that oxidized orange after a few days of non use but would always provide superlative braking, regardless of weather conditions.
Your comment regarding warm legs is familiar. Once owned a Honda CX500 (remember the old 'Plastic Maggot'? 😄) in the early 80s and whilst the upper torso and fingers always felt frozen on winter days, I always had toasty kneecaps, for some reason. 😄
As always, nice one pal. You own a bike with fine heritage. 👍
Cheers Mark…..yes the CX 500 and the old Silverwing…..both with the transverse V
I really like the V7, always have and your video’s really do wet my appetite for one. As for the clutch; my Honda CD175 clutch sticks a little when the bikes not been used in a bit. So, when you pull in the clutch to engage first the bike jumps forward and stalls. This is just the clutch plates sticking and is a common issue, the cable is not affected. Not saying this is the issue with your V7; Just the effects are similar.
A superb video Dave; enjoyed the ride and banter too you’re a great ambassador for our lovely sport of motorcycling.
Ride safe fella.
Neil
Love to ride out and listen to you 🎉.. keep them coming 😅❤
Will do Martine I was born to suffer for my art 😂 x❤️
I've heard through the grape vine ,theNevada850 is coming back,what a piece,can't wait ❤
That clutch thing happened on a bike I took for a test ride yesterday. It sorted it's self out after a couple of start attempts.
Thanks Dave for taking me on your ride and review of your Moto Guzzi. All bikes have their little niggles depending on the seasons and temperatures. Ride safe. Cheers
Thank you Rick you too buddy 👍🏻
Looks like you were headed out to Tadcaster/Church Fenton there Dave. This weather doesn't hold you back does it! Good to see you getting out......despite the weather! I couldn't believe the state of the roads around Boston Spa......they could catch you out! Anyhow, stunning bike that makes a stunning sound. Ride safe!
Best
Dave (N. Yorks)
Cheers Dave yes it was quite sketchy around Boston on those roads
She's a really lovely bike Dave 🤓 Absolutely love our old California, nowhere near perfect, but more than good enough for us 😁
Lovely balanced review, have just bought a 2023 V7 Special lovely to ride and a totally different bike to previous big four cylinder bikes and a Royal Enfield Interceptor.Keep up the reviews.
I very much admire Moto Guzzi for staying with tradition and making such wonderful machines available to us. I’d love a twin clock setup and the V85 power output but I’m just being picky I guess……awesome 👍
You can get a twin clock set up and wire wheels with the V7 850 special 👍🏻
No petrol gauge on a modern motorcycle ( well I never! ) 😮 As always a most informative and entertaining episode. Keep up the excellent work Dave.
Cheers Martin all the best 👍🏻
Wouldn't you guess, I've just asked where you'd bought the bike and two minutes later you mentioned it. Oh dear, I'll learn to add comment at the end.
Regards the clutch, if it's old school it's likely to have stuck as we used to say on the old bikes due to standing. This was quite common on the older bikes as they ran a dry clutch. We used to put the bike in gear and rock it back and forth to free things off. Condensate inside the engine, particularly in the winter when parked up in cold weather, would create a light rust coating on the clutch plates.
Nothing to worry about but you've mentioned in your earlier video how the condensate covered the bike's,😅 this also happens inside the engine.
Probably loads of comments but the symptoms sound identical to me.
Yes the clutch issue common on dry clutches on stood up bikes. And the rocking advice always cleared it. Comment brought back old memories😅
Cheers Gents I never gave that a thought but it makes perfect sense now….dry clutch and condensation!
I think your right re the clutch
I have clocked 22000km on mine and agree with the points you make. I dont mind the lack of a fuel guage as i find the fuel info the bike does give you in conjunction with the trip meter way more accurate than a guage is likely to be snd the fuel lught comes on when theres still a large reserve available. It also keeps track of how many ks youve done while on "reserve" A bit of math makes me feel more like a pilot than rider....lol. re hesitation in starting, glad you mentioned that. Thought it was just mine. Only issue i have had is random check engine lights which is also a known issue . Good review. Enjoy your oncoming spring. Autumn in my part of the world
Why do so many manufacturers offset the clock,im an engineer and i like to see symmetry.Maybe im just old fashioned.🤔
TBW the Italian mistress is as raucous & passionate as its owner. A match made from the beauty of Mandello De Lario 🇮🇹. She can be high maintenance, but those curves, long legs & red heels make you forget your grievances. She takes your breath away…
Perfectly put Steve! 😎👍🏻
I like Moto Guzzi because it doesn't blindly seek high power.
He likes all the V7 series, but he especially likes the coloring of the V7 Stone Corsa.
If you can afford to own one, V7 Stone Corsa is your #1 candidate to buy.
Dave!, I'm jealous, This could have been me, right now riding a Moto Guzzi Classic 750. The second hand bike l looked forward to riding in the hilly areas of Spain has been thwarted by bureaucracy and ageism. Hearing that soft heart beat of your bike is just so soothing...l bet you are really looking forward to riding the Guzzi in the summer months ...Greeting from España
Hi Brian yes she has a soulful thrum about her 👍🏻
They are a handsome bike Dave , always liked them , but still haven't got one ! 😆
Enjoying my V9 as well, no starter lag or issues but on the very first ride the gear linkage actuating rod decided it was leaving the ride! Nursed it home stuck in gear and quickly remedied with replacement rod under warrantly but hopefully never have that happen again. Otherwise a neat change of pace bike and love the character, like you though I shake my head as why a fuel gage wasn't included!
You are finally back on the V7! I see that you have not yet upgraded your wardrobe to be more suave and “Italian” as you said you would.
I have a new Stone with the exact problem you describe with the starter! Instant panic for sure, especially when neither of us have a dealer nearby.
I found many things loose on the new bike. I had to tighten the clutch up significantly as the cable was flopping around. The handlebar bolts were hardly tightened.
I now have managed to adjust the clutch cable in the center of the adjustment zone on the top by the hand and the bottom by the engine. All good now.
The bike feels like it could have a problem at any moment (not reliable feeling like the Japanese bikes).
After the first service at 800 miles the valves were clattering severely and sounded like they were smacking against the cylinder heads-more so on the right side. I pulled over and called the dealer. I returned slowly to the shop. The mechanic said these sound like that and worse. He readjusted the right side and it was then much quieter … at least not sounding like it was going to break!
First service was over $400!
Sounds like you’ve been a bit unlucky with yours
Hiya - Mel from Lichfield (Staffs) here. I too have a guzzi V7 850 stone. Love the bike (2nd Guzzi)! - Good owners review - However your issue with the starter is deffo not my experience. Mine has no delay and starts instantly every time even when left after a fortnight (and i don't have in on a conditioner. I am also lucky enough the live by Arnolds Guzzi dealer (Burton on Tent) and get to ride several used guzzi bikes that come and not ever encountered this issue !. I have several bikes but both the Guzzi and the my Enfield classic bullet always make me smile. If you want a non starter then you should come and ride my 1966 BSA Spitfire! that really puts muscles on your right leg !
Agree with you - Never ever found and issue by not having a fuel gauge! and i ride on feel of the engine re changing gear and don't need the gear indicator (just as well as it is pretty useless! and the usb under the seat is err not to clever a move either!
I sat on a v85tt the other week and just grinned! My wife said o'h no!!!
Thoroughly enjoyed the ride along Dave. A Moto Guzzi will be in my garage soon, most probably a V85 Strada. Together with a Classic 350 I think that’s the perfect pairing. Keep the Guzzi videos coming…
Cheers buddy and will do 👍🏻
The waiting seconds between pushing the start button and engine start is a non documented feature also on other Piaggio products, such as the Vespa GTS 300. It sometimes needs 2 seconds to come alive, especially when cold and standing long.
I had the forerunner of this bike a 750 Breva, bought secondhand with 8000 miles on the clock, by the time it 16000 it was much smoother and the gear change was better. Guzzis definitely get better with age, I had a SPADA 3 with over 100,000 on the clock and the engine was as sweet as a nut.
25:10 My Gen 3 KLR will do that (or something like that) if I leave it in gear overnight. It's not an adjustment issue, but the plates sticking. I learned quickly to always leave it in neutral.
I would be interested to hear your views on the 850 vs the new Mandello.
I've owned the Griso 8v for 11 years and can't fault it. The motors are bulletproof (apart from the startus interruptus issue and early flat tappet dlc debacle).
Dave, it looks bloody lovely 👍
😊😊😊
I have a 2010 V7 Classic and considering moving in to a new Guzzi. Just not sure if I keep with the same style with a Special 850, or the modern look of the Stone Special 850. Surprisingly, here in the States Guzzi’s popularity seems to be growing immensely lately. I’ve been seeing A LOT of people purchasing the V7 Stone Special. I might just have to leave it to the flip of a coin to decide because I think both models are gorgeous in their own right. Great video and thanks for sharing with us!
They’re both great bikes and it’s all down to individual tastes. I nearly went for the Special but something about the Stone Special spoke to me. Either way you’ll love the bike. Thank you for your kind comments 😊👍🏻
I bought the V85TT last year and I think Moto Guzzi have nailed the V twin. Also gets a lot of attention because it is not very common.
J'ai acheté cette machine il y a trois mois... Très facile à piloter, j'ai hâte d'arriver aux beaux jours
Moi aussi mon ami 👍🏻
@@thebingleywheeler
Bonne route avec Guzzi ✌️
sur le point d'avoir la même après avoir essayé la version 2021 et les sensations sont parfaites pour avoir la banane. La précédente une Harley dyna superglide custom de 2005 ((FXDCI) malgré un bon souvenir j'ai l'impression que je vais pas la regretter ...
Good morning Dave another good video. One thing that is very evident from your footage is the truly shocking state of the roads, how on earth are they deemed fit for purpose, there was a particularly terrible bit on the approach to one of the roundabouts,near Wetherby ?.
Think that goes for most areas these days, here in Lancashire so many of the country roads are very poor indeed.
Here in the US as well!
Yes Stuart the A1 junction at Boston Spa bloody shocking 😮
@thebingleywheeler Yeah,meant to say Boston Spa, saw the lads at the weighbridge.
Had the same play appear on the clutch, you need 2 x 13mm spanners to adjust it.
Sounds a cice smoothly bike dave
Good morning Dave, I really love your videos it’s as though you are taking us along with you to experience the sights and sounds along the way.
As for the starting ‘problem’ my car has a one touch start button (like some Suzuki motorcycles) and it can be a few seconds before is does anything whilst it performs a self test procedure, maybe this is what is happening with your MG?
Andy.
Thank you Andy really appreciate that buddy 😊👍🏻
I think these issues will be resolved after the first service. The oil is a mineral oil & will benefit from semi or full synthetic oil.
Morning Dave great looking bike but I am bias as you know 😉 I purchased a V7 850 special in December and love it😊 for the people below commenting about twin clocks the special comes with twin clocks and chrome exhausts & spoked wheels it’s a keeper and I’ve fitted a fenda extenda, crashbars, one pannier with panniers rails and getting some extra lights fitted soon. Carry on that man Caio for now 👍🏻
Cheers which pannier frames did you get?
@@thebingleywheeler same as the panniers from longride, fit specifically for moto guzzi v7 👍🏻
Good Morning Dave , There's no question its a beautiful bike mate , but for me i would have liked twin clocks tbh , so take care & ride safe
Cheers Steve you too buddy 👍🏻
I've had a V9 Bobber for six months and, believe me, that IS a marmite bike even by Guzzi standards. I love it but it definately has some idiosyncrasies. It requires a totally different riding style to my other bike, a Honda CB400SS, it hates the bumpy back lanes but get on an open road and its glorious. It has a piece of tape on the speedo glass to cover the high beam indicator which is so bright its better to be on low beam. I fitted a piece of rubber to cover the gap between the rear mudguard and the swingarm to stop crap getting onto the clutch arm (don't know if the V7 is the same) and a small screen so I can hold on !
Hi that flap is a great idea I’ve never known such a bike for attracting muck 😂
As to the starter delay, I wonder if it has to charge a capacitor for some weird reason. Just a thought... Them roads ain't half manky!
Hi Dave
Great video…re the clutch, this could have been something so simple as a little dirt off of the winter roads getting into the cable casing. This would explain why it was resolved by adjusting slightly to loosen it all away. Could literally happen to any motorcycle ridden this time of year in the UK.
Sometimes my own Interceptor takes 2 or 3 seconds to fire up after pressing start so also not as uncommon and confined to the Moto Guzzi.
Hi thank you yes I think that must have been the problem after all 😊👍🏻
One of the reasons I preferred the old school carb fed engined motorcycles ,was the reserve tap on the fuel cock . The amount in reserve was usually plenty to get you to several petrol stations ,so there was no excuse for running out of fuel . I find the fuel gauges are often very inaccurate ,especially the ones on Italian bikes & scooters ,some say half empty when full . Regards the clutch cable issues I always work the clutch lever in & out in neutral whist the bike is warming up on tick over ,when bike has been standing for good while . This helps to free off clutch plates, actuators & cables ,on bikes that have been standing for a good while . Italian bikes tend to have character ,but you have to be prepared to accept the fact ,that they can be as temperamental as an Italian wife who has caught her husband with another women in their marriage bed . It’s all good fun 😎👍
Great analogy there! 😂
I had a similar situation with the clutch on a kawasaki klr650 after it stood for a while over winter. It was in a heated storage. Pulled clutch in and started it up and it lurched forward. Did that twice. On the third try it was fine
All i can think is that the clutch pressure plate fused together with the flywheel slightly. I change my oil religiously and there was nothing wrong with the oil. Some suggest it could be the resin in the clutch pads or rust. Maybe galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals in the clutch.
Thank you that’s a very plausible explanation 👍🏻
Hi Dave
Just a quick message to let you know that Via Moto in Sheffield are a Moto Guzzi dealership along with Aprillia and Piaggio, probably further from you than Leeds but nearer than Nottingham i m sure, gives you another option if needed, keep up with the great content.
Cheers Nigel 😊👍🏻
Nice review. But, no fuel gauge?!! Why?!! What would that take to include?
Love your jacket what make is it owd luv
Merlin Edale wax cotton
So the obvious question is how does the V7 compare to the Super Meteor 650?
Red hair and black leather is my favorite colour scheme...
The V7 is a lovely retro with real character, I often wish (hope) MG would take a look at their back catalogue and produce a V7 derived 850 T3 California, if they did I would be first in the queue. On the dealer/service side , have you considered Teasdale Motorcycles in Thirsk ?old school dealer that's good to deal with and not a million miles from Bingley.
I didn’t have the best experience with Teasdale with my KTM sadly
I have heard others complain about Teasdales and their KTM operation, so no surprise on that front, my experience with them on MG side was excellent.
Morning, it's a great bike regarding the points you made, the fuel range is in excess of 250 miles, happy days. The switch gear definitely needs a squirt of acf50 or gt85 into it for us Brits and our rainy weather to protect it. We were in Wales, the heavens opened and the main beam switch went in to silly mode re how it would function. Since we occasionally give it acf50 it's all good regardless of weather. The clutch and gear mechanisms are not that well protected from the grime as the rear wheel flings loads at it. Again well worth, getting behind the rear wheel and rinsing down all the linkage and again acf50/gt85 always being reapplied. Other than that, 13000 miles in a year, zero other issues.
On my V7 I put a piece of rubber mudflap from the bottom of the rear mudguard to the swinging arm ...it stops all the crud going on the clutch actuating arm ...it works really well .
Cheers Paul some great tips for me there much appreciated 👍🏻
Great idea👍🏻
Nice report! I think calling this bike "retro" is a bit of a disservice. Moto Guzzi has been producing bikes like this since 1921. For me, retro is something meant to harken back to the old days. This bike never left. Which is why I like it!
Being a GoldStar owner i obviously go for bikes with character and if I was to swop it in I'd go for the W800 or the Guzzi but for me it must have wire wheels, twin clocks and a chrome or stainless exhaust i don't like blacked out exhaust's on any bike and that includes the GoldStar and the V 7, just a personal choice.
V7 Special will tick all those boxes 👍🏻
I've exactly the same bike. I've put 5500km on mine. I think it's had the starting issue 4 times. None to my recollection in the last 2500km or so.
I hate the EFI because it makes engines run hot 🔥🥵 as Hades. You can get gears to replace the cam chain. It 's not a retro , it is the real thing.
They are good bikes. Can see one being my future. But while i'm still able, the grunt of the big bore Guzzi's is hard to leave behind. No need for near by dealers. Easy home maintenance.
Would like to know your opinion regards to touring with it. Do you have any plans for going further a field with the Moto Guzzi ?
Yes just needs panniers and then perfect
Hi, I am looking at trading in my Ducati Scrambler 1100 for something a little easier to maintain long term. Comfort is everything to me. I'm looking at KTM 790, Honda Hornet, GSX8S, Speed Twin 900 and Guzzi V7 850. I'm not looking for speed. Kent roads are absolutely terrible so soft and easy suspension is my first consideration. Which of the above bikes would you rule out/ test ride with that in mind.
For suspension and bad roads it wouldn’t really be any of them unless you’re thinking KTM 790 adventure which would be the best to my mind
For an unknown reason lots of Harleys and Ducati's appear to hesitate before starting and its normal.
I have my eye on one, low mileage with a few comfort extras. I found out the other day that it does not have a fuel gauge on a 2022 model. So how panicky should one get when the fuel light comes on?
Wishing you well & safe on your rides out.
Light kicks in early. About 100 miles left so no need to panic!
@petemofi thank you, sir, for the reassuring reply 👍
Dave. I have a BMW Urban GS that also only has a fuel light. A little trick I learned was to fill the tank, set the trip meter to zero and then make a mental note of when the light came on. On my Bike it's about 170 miles.( But you have to remember this!).Now everytime I fill up I set the trip meter to zero and I know that as it approaches 170 miles the light will soon be coming on. It almost acts like a fuel guage and removes the panic of the light coming on suddenly and catching you off guard. So I will often top up when it's reading 160 miles to beat the light!!😂
@@ed.barker7069 all noted and goes a long way to convince me to buy the one I have seen before someone else does 👍😁
@ed.barker7069 yes I had an RnineT and remember a similar thing
I have the same exact clutch issue on my V7. Do you know if there is any online resource to teach me to fix it? Thank you for the fantastic content
Sticky clutch cable just needed oiling
I have an 2018 V7iii Milano that I purchased several months ago with only 673 miles on it. Also have that start button issue as does a friend of mine with his recently-purchased 2021 model with only 1500 miles on it! He's having his switch replaced by the dealer (+/-$400!). I'm waiting to see if that solves his problem, then might do the same. In the mean time, it only happens now and then so I'm tolerating it. I did notice that, if you hold the start button in for a few seconds, it usually engages. I'm just disappointed that Moto Guzzi doesn't test these things well enough before they go into production to make sure everything works and is reliable. I'm sure they source these switches from another company, and it's that company that should step and fix this issue if multiple owners have the problem.
Seems I only have the issue if it’s been stood a while 🤔
Looks great but it sounds exactly the same as standard?
Not quite. In person there is a slightly deeper rumble than standard, very pleasant. I’ve owned both versions.
How is this bike riding two up? Nice and comfy for you and your lady?
I don’t have a lady to ride two up 😌
When i met you at patley last year and i said i had a v7 you told me you had not riden a guzzi i said you don't know what you're missing you know😊
See how you influenced me there Phil 😂
Hi David I've watched all your videos and I don't seem to have heard you mention where you bought the bike. The only dealer I've sourced is at Sheffield, can you enlighten your subscribers please.
Bike bought from MSC Nottingham I think Dave mentioned 🤔
Yes MSC Nottingham it was
I'm selling my Ducati Hypermotard evo sp, and this is the next one!
Great choice! 👍🏻
Can you advise whether this bike will have me making payments for 216 months?
Not sure what you mean
@@thebingleywheeler 18 yrs of child support because chicks dig guys on Moto Guzzis.
Ah I see….thats some price to pay….glad I don’t have kids 😁
Ah I see….sorry to hear that….fortunately I don’t have kids and I’m too old to attract the attention of chicks 😂
Good morning Dave, I’ve been awaiting this video. As we bought ours at the same time I’m near enough at the same point as you. For my viewpoint I would ask, is the Guzzi retro ? I think unlike many of the competition that have gone back to earlier years and tried to modernise what was an old design. The Guzzi has merely morphed into its present state and not looked back at all.
Yes the Guzzi has far more noticeable poke than the Enfields and the engine is a dream. There’s no doubt that it will move and handle great especially when it’s fully run in.
At present mine is getting around 70mpg and a 250 mile range is easily achieved. I haven’t had the starter issue you raise but that may be just good luck. The horn is pitiful and has been changed for something more meaty. I also got a centre stand fitted as it makes things so much easier. ( They should be standard on all bikes in my opinion ) I would love to have a longer fitting front mudguard as even with the fender extender fitted it throws up some right crap onto the engine. My chrome headers have already begun to discolour but that doesn’t worry me at all.
The only problem I’ve had was a puncture in the rear tyre, what I discovered then was the traction control realises there is a problem and the engine almost shuts down. I’ve never experienced that before on a bike but with hindsight it could be a good idea. Overall I love the bike so far there’s just something about that rock and roll feeling that I love. Finally the big winner is that shaft drive, I just can’t be bothered with chain maintenance anymore. But I am a lazy ar*e
Morning Pal yes I agree that the V7 is more a product of evolution than creation perhaps it’s just a classic full stop. I’m on the case for a horn upgrade. Worth knowing that the ecu can detect a puncture not heard of that before…clever stuff
I love the sum of this bikes parts but still couldnt buy. Have you ever seen channel CG rides and his love and hatred of the bike, his patience and awful MG service. All centred on the ECU. For that reason I could not buy one. On his vlog he is not the only one with faults. I can see your excellent relationship with dealers so hope you will be looked after should you encounter a problem but hopefully like so many other MG lovers you will not.
I know this is probably rubbish advice but… I had a hyundai car that did exactly the same with the starter, turn the key and 5s later started. In the end it was an electric switch related to the clutch( which was cable operated clutch) Hyundai fixed it but cant remember what it was. You did have to depress the clutch to start it, not sure that applied to your MG?
Thank you yes my fingers are crossed but the supplying dealer seems very professional
Where ist the Sound? I think there are Arrows on it…
Correct
poke he he he !
Ps hartley toucher my cluch cable