Battle of the bend ep.1- 805lb/365kg on a deadlift bar vs Stiff bar (conventional)

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  • So this is Just one comparison of bar bending. This is a deadlift bar with competition plates vs a stiff bar with Gym plates(LB plates) There will be more comparisons like this one in the future. There are many examples to match up. This is just what I did for this video!
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  • @toxtv8161
    @toxtv8161 Před 5 lety +1476

    This man started talking to us while holding 700lbs

    • @cailerwoolam
      @cailerwoolam  Před 5 lety +229

      I literally did that just to be funny 😂 it wasn't even necessary

    • @goatofdeparture
      @goatofdeparture Před 5 lety +27

      when he did that bruh , I started dying

    • @counterculturecoaching2837
      @counterculturecoaching2837 Před 5 lety +32

      I was wondering if I was the only person who noticed that LOL.

    • @cailerwoolam
      @cailerwoolam  Před 5 lety +87

      I'm happy yall noticed it. 😂

    • @MrSocialish
      @MrSocialish Před 5 lety +6

      @@cailerwoolam Hahaha I noticed that! I was wondering if you were gonna say anything worth while, and you were just like, "I'm trying to see how it feels to make an observation". That was hilarious hahaha

  • @willmakk
    @willmakk Před 5 lety +1412

    *"You're not getting much out of a deadlift bar lifting under 600lbs."*
    Cool, won't have to worry about that one.

  • @hunterberrong3489
    @hunterberrong3489 Před 5 lety +843

    Can we get the comparison with 950 on each bar? Just so your average day to day viewer can better relate

    • @cailerwoolam
      @cailerwoolam  Před 5 lety +119

      Hell no. I ain't deadlifting 950 any time soon. It takes me awhile to build up to that lol.

    • @ewouthagdorn7872
      @ewouthagdorn7872 Před 5 lety +76

      may we can ask eddie hall to do a side by side comparions at 1102 lbs on each bar? that'd be something we could all relate to. ;)

    • @timheinlein7230
      @timheinlein7230 Před 5 lety +21

      Yeah. Probably need to see the 950 competition plates stiff bar comparison to 950 deadlift bar with bumper plates larry wheels style duct taped and resistance banded on to the ends after running out of bar space

    • @GR-uc1gq
      @GR-uc1gq Před 5 lety +14

      Lol I think he was being sarcastic

    • @benaquilina6640
      @benaquilina6640 Před 5 lety

      Ewout Hagdorn Eddie wouldn’t be able to do 1100 on stiff bar let alone with out straps and deadlift suit

  • @SkaptorZ
    @SkaptorZ Před 5 lety +491

    500lbs is about the average range... that kinda hurt my feelings man

    • @wolfspritzer9253
      @wolfspritzer9253 Před 5 lety +43

      yeah lol i felt like a beast after i pulled 470 for 5, guess i'm just your average casual lifter.

    • @wolfspritzer9253
      @wolfspritzer9253 Před 5 lety +10

      @@JustSomeGuy69420 yeah rippetoe annoys the shit out of me.

    • @killerDIRK1
      @killerDIRK1 Před 4 lety

      Truth Hurts When it Stabs Deep

    • @moustaphabalde7581
      @moustaphabalde7581 Před 4 lety +10

      @@wolfspritzer9253 your max is prolly 500 or more with 470 for 5

    • @zachnunya8749
      @zachnunya8749 Před 4 lety

      Brandon Hewitt well said.

  • @theamateurpowerlifter
    @theamateurpowerlifter Před 5 lety +217

    who pulls 600, 700, and 800 twice to demo bar whip....

  • @ryanstrohman7429
    @ryanstrohman7429 Před 5 lety +561

    3:48 500 lb average deadlift
    Dude have you stepped into a commercial gym hehe

    • @MrJosh6889
      @MrJosh6889 Před 5 lety +130

      He's not around us normies. That is pretty average with the people he's around.

    • @jrmayun
      @jrmayun Před 5 lety

      hahaha shit man

    • @Ryan_2112
      @Ryan_2112 Před 5 lety +31

      More like 365 is average lol. From what i see.

    • @Dizzydawne
      @Dizzydawne Před 5 lety +14

      315 😂

    • @Dizzydawne
      @Dizzydawne Před 5 lety +15

      At my gym it’s typical to see 717 lbs deadlifted, but it’s a powerlifting gym so of course 😂

  • @bluesstinger1975
    @bluesstinger1975 Před 5 lety +263

    "Some people are dying to lift 500lbs and this guy is rowing it for reps" - i remember this quote coming from Mark Bell when you were over at his gym showing them your accessory exercises......as always good video and knowledge

    • @wolfspritzer9253
      @wolfspritzer9253 Před 5 lety +1

      lol he can probably row 500 lol.

    • @ziguy7883
      @ziguy7883 Před 5 lety +1

      Wolf Spritzer he did row 500 lol I think a little more then 500 for reps!

    • @teasippingguy9316
      @teasippingguy9316 Před 5 lety +2

      Larry Wheels could probably do 900 lbs for reps

    • @wolfspritzer9253
      @wolfspritzer9253 Před 5 lety +5

      @@teasippingguy9316 nah Cailer dead is more than larrys, sumo but it is still more.

    • @teasippingguy9316
      @teasippingguy9316 Před 5 lety +1

      @@wolfspritzer9253 Larry could do more... the speed is there, the strengh too. It's only his mind that doesn't really want to lift 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @hspwr3521
    @hspwr3521 Před 5 lety +253

    Cailer the type of dude to chalk up and use ammonia before he goes on a date.

  • @jackmacaulay
    @jackmacaulay Před 5 lety +65

    wow, today i learned that I have the exact same shaft length as an eleiko bar

  • @parkersullivan6372
    @parkersullivan6372 Před 5 lety +73

    Hilarious how you have to explain “this is my video, if you want to share a different opinion go make your own video” lmao!

  • @MrVOiDCreations
    @MrVOiDCreations Před 5 lety +106

    why am i watching this when i can only deadlift 365 lmao

  • @samivey8416
    @samivey8416 Před 5 lety +53

    I enjoyed this. Can see a huge difference in the higher weight. And good endurance to you Dr. DEADLIFT

  • @NickWright
    @NickWright Před 4 lety +19

    The Ohio deadlift bar is also the stiffest deadlift bar of deadlift bars. Awesome video!

  • @JSheetzArtwork
    @JSheetzArtwork Před 5 lety +24

    Cailer is not only a powerlifter but he is also a rapper. He droppin bars on us all day, deadlift bars, eleiko bars.
    (waiting on the cailer rap album)

  • @DrStevenHorwitz
    @DrStevenHorwitz Před 5 lety +10

    As an older (58) , smaller lifter (5'8", 170 lbs) I train with a stiff bar. At a meet, the deadlift bar is much easier for me to hold as the 1.5-2.0 mm makes a big grip difference. I really notice the flex in the bar over 315 and at 500 it "feels" easier than the stiff bar. Thank you for all your great videos!!

  • @chadcorber6399
    @chadcorber6399 Před 5 lety +66

    So much quality content lately :')

  • @cailerwoolam
    @cailerwoolam  Před 5 lety +27

    Guys. Just to clarify..This was strictly a comparison between the deadlift bar with calibrated plates vs a stiff bar with gym plates for a conventional deadlift only. Nothing else! I mention this in the video!

  • @mikalokasso
    @mikalokasso Před 5 lety +3

    It's great content, and it's also the best rant I've seen in a long while haha

  • @mconcepcion752
    @mconcepcion752 Před 5 lety +3

    You and SsjBob inspired me to surpass what I thought was possible for myself. My original goal when I started out was 315. I didn't think my small frame and "weak genetics" would allow me to do much more than that. It seemed surreal, and nearly out of my potential. Thanks to you guys I don't let my 'weak genetics' hold me back anymore. Did 385Ibs on deadlift and 405 is on the horizon. When I hit 500Ibs I'll make a video to show ya! Any other small guys out there, just keep going. You will be surprised how far you can actually go.

  • @FRYSMASH
    @FRYSMASH Před 3 lety +6

    I remember my first powerlifting meet. My max deadlift at home that I felt like I could hit any day of the week was 405 with my super thick, super stiff budget barbell so I made that my opener. Comp used an ohio deadlift bar and 405 felt like 350. My third attempt was successful with 455 and I still felt like I had lots in the tank and regretted not going heavier.

  • @drip369
    @drip369 Před 5 lety

    Highly highly appreciated, and intense to watch! Very informative and science is always worth the extra clean up ;)

  • @Mutilatedteddybear
    @Mutilatedteddybear Před 5 lety

    I had really been wondering about this! amazing video dude keep it up!

  • @MrBollox79
    @MrBollox79 Před 5 lety +6

    Thank you Doctor!

  • @roselelouch3038
    @roselelouch3038 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoyed this video and loved how you did the comparison on the same day and stuff

  • @Rocket4ce
    @Rocket4ce Před 3 lety

    Bro your form is perfect. Hell yeah! Freakn beast mode.

  • @a.f-body1vids655
    @a.f-body1vids655 Před 2 lety

    BEAST! Great video!

  • @SNOWBOARDZ
    @SNOWBOARDZ Před 5 lety +6

    Great vid! Another cool idea would be to try to find the way to get the most whip possible. Like bumpers with 100s on the outside.

  • @jasonmerritt4931
    @jasonmerritt4931 Před 5 lety

    Greatly appreciated. Tough work bro but you answered a question I’m sure a lot of us have had

  • @jmac6973
    @jmac6973 Před 5 lety +2

    dude, you're the man. thanks for this awesome video.

    • @cailerwoolam
      @cailerwoolam  Před 5 lety

      Thanks dude! I had a lot of fun making it

  • @Chedda3000music
    @Chedda3000music Před 5 lety

    I do appreciate you for doing this video

  • @ferna2294
    @ferna2294 Před 4 lety

    Cailer, every time I watch a new video of you, you look more and more like an ever-growing wardrobe. Keep it up, and I wish to see that 400KG deadlift at a competition in the future. Love from Argentina.

  • @rmt430
    @rmt430 Před 5 lety +1

    Honestly, this is awesome. People love to argue with me that stiffy feels harder than a deadlift bar when I say they feel pretty much the same where I'm pulling now in the mid-upper six hundreds. The width of the bar with hook grip I think really is the most compelling difference I've heard from smaller people, since they sometimes can't grab a stiff bar securely but can a deadlift bar.

  • @brickpick
    @brickpick Před 5 lety

    Great comparison, thank you sir 🙌🏽

  • @roninstrength1883
    @roninstrength1883 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this content! This is a great comparison

  • @666BIGBLOCK
    @666BIGBLOCK Před rokem

    Thanks for doing this.
    Very interesting. I’d been wondering.

  • @banditdawgs
    @banditdawgs Před 5 lety +26

    Next up elephant bar video lol

  • @emarquez8604
    @emarquez8604 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for this breakdown. I appreciate it

  • @omgitskentyt18
    @omgitskentyt18 Před 5 lety +1

    This guy deserve more subscription

  • @soren8196
    @soren8196 Před 4 lety

    Cailer your shoulders r unreal! Great video!

  • @jamesshort779
    @jamesshort779 Před 5 lety

    Cailer, a great video man! I like the topic. I don't actually think I've seen a video like this over the bend. At least, not with that much weight in the same workout by the same guy. Keep it up my friend!

  • @rebelmaderighteous
    @rebelmaderighteous Před 5 lety

    Good video my dude. Editing was good.

  • @harelperry4271
    @harelperry4271 Před 5 lety

    i love every video cailer make

  • @AxelPRC
    @AxelPRC Před 5 lety

    Great video! I always wondered what difference it made. Thank you 😊

  • @Sweetmawmaw
    @Sweetmawmaw Před 5 lety +19

    Jason Blaha will probably make a 10 minute video talking about this

  • @joseortiz6292
    @joseortiz6292 Před 5 lety

    I just liked it for 2 reasons, great video and for loading and the removal of all those plates lol.

  • @rickyspanish5316
    @rickyspanish5316 Před 5 lety +17

    Dr D, please write me prescription for sick shoulder gains.

  • @LaKeRsOvErCeLtIcS
    @LaKeRsOvErCeLtIcS Před 4 lety +1

    Dr. Deadlift did it so we dont have to! Thank you for your sacrifice sir'

  • @stevesedgwick5789
    @stevesedgwick5789 Před 5 lety +7

    Amazing strength Cailer, messing about with 800lbs, like it is warm up 😀👍

  • @diycaveman2166
    @diycaveman2166 Před 5 lety

    This was badass!!!

  • @gavinolivas7826
    @gavinolivas7826 Před 5 lety

    Dude sick vivos!

  • @jcsworld801
    @jcsworld801 Před 5 lety

    Perdy much perfect form well done

  • @gymintuition9232
    @gymintuition9232 Před 5 lety

    Damn!! Can't believe this is the first time I'm watching this one!

  • @MattePurple1
    @MattePurple1 Před 5 lety +8

    Homie looks waaayy too slender to pull 700+. That's crazy, mad respect.

    • @Nachos4Bros
      @Nachos4Bros Před 5 lety +1

      He does 900+, best deadlifter in the world man

    • @allenroy9250
      @allenroy9250 Před 4 lety

      Matt you see how lumpy rippled and wide his back is without his shirt on ?

    • @Lordoftheswollen
      @Lordoftheswollen Před 4 lety +2

      What's crazy is he still benches mid 400s with those long ass arms.

  • @kutayatalc2138
    @kutayatalc2138 Před 5 lety

    I appreciate the effort

  • @simpleh8885
    @simpleh8885 Před 5 lety +5

    Great video as always. Hope seeing you pull 1000 lbs sumo and 900 conventional one day.

  • @michaelschwartz812
    @michaelschwartz812 Před 5 lety +41

    500lb average after sarmageddon happened in the USA.

    • @amadohc
      @amadohc Před 4 lety

      true true sarms are easy to get now

  • @GIboy1990
    @GIboy1990 Před 5 lety +6

    I feel a difference between the two for anything after 4 plates.

  • @harrisashraff
    @harrisashraff Před 2 lety

    Pulling the lifetime Goal of many Deadlifter's just for a demonstration purpose tells how savage he is. Really an inspiration.

  • @ModernNeandertal
    @ModernNeandertal Před 5 lety

    Great video. No BS.

  • @user-nu7zc8il8h
    @user-nu7zc8il8h Před 4 lety

    Really good video. Thanks)

  • @Viralclown
    @Viralclown Před 5 lety

    Impressive deadlift mate

  • @randyle4520
    @randyle4520 Před 5 lety +3

    Savage beast ! Plz do 1000 lb pull +

  • @josephpaige3614
    @josephpaige3614 Před 4 lety +1

    Interesting comparisson. I'll bet a lot of lifters have wondered about this.

  • @ululy
    @ululy Před 2 lety

    Cailer, one really cool comparison would be calibrated plates on the elieko (IPF style) with conventional vs bumpers ( or big pound plates) on the DL bar with sumo. Since your strength on the two variations being so close it would be interesting to see how big of a difference these variables can make. Obviously, none of this matters as long as it's consistent in the same comp imo.

  • @user-cm9ef4fw7m
    @user-cm9ef4fw7m Před 5 lety +2

    thank you

  • @jasongiroux6367
    @jasongiroux6367 Před 5 lety +3

    If you do a similar video you could do the work outs on separate days for (approximately) equal rest and less clean up

  • @mattd5619
    @mattd5619 Před 5 lety +25

    If 500 lbs range is average, then I am wayyyyy behind lol. Looks like I have back day for the next few years

    • @bluesstinger1975
      @bluesstinger1975 Před 5 lety +5

      You and me both

    • @alessio7375
      @alessio7375 Před 5 lety +1

      c mon 500lbs are warm up i do that for over 12reps

    • @Xilladan093
      @Xilladan093 Před 3 lety

      @@alessio7375 more like 440 and its touch n go lol.. not deadstop

    • @alessio7375
      @alessio7375 Před 3 lety

      @@Xilladan093 it's 440, with dead stop u need glasses tho, do even know what touch n go is?

  • @louis.s5801
    @louis.s5801 Před 5 lety

    great video

  • @eduardm228
    @eduardm228 Před 5 lety +17

    He said average weight is 500! Lol what gym do you go to ? I can barely do 300 lol

  • @abnrangerjapo
    @abnrangerjapo Před 5 lety

    Freaking legit video!!

  • @c510sony1
    @c510sony1 Před 5 lety +1

    I think for sumo, when you can go wider on a deadlift bar than stiff (max width), the differences gonna be a lot larger than in conventional.

  • @buzzyranker8289
    @buzzyranker8289 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks, as I can barely lift 400 lbs I have nothing to worry about.

  • @LaszloBencze
    @LaszloBencze Před 5 lety +3

    This was darned impressive lifting. Just looking at him, you'd never guess he could deadlift 600 much less 800. Clearly he is a superb athlete.

  • @natejenny6561
    @natejenny6561 Před 5 lety +4

    I did this exact same thing for my physics final not even a week ago 😂

  • @alanbetancourt8989
    @alanbetancourt8989 Před 4 lety

    Imagine handshaking this mans HE WOULD DESTROY YOUR HANDS

  • @eatingcontestchamp20
    @eatingcontestchamp20 Před 5 lety +10

    4:45 Is that mixed grip? Cailer, I’m shook.

    • @A1M8E7
      @A1M8E7 Před 5 lety

      Angela Chang good catch

  • @viceshark
    @viceshark Před 5 lety

    Bro I literally sat through every ad on this video. Tryna represent tho

  • @ibenchyoursquat7700
    @ibenchyoursquat7700 Před 5 lety

    Thank you

  • @martinhalsall8629
    @martinhalsall8629 Před 5 lety

    Very interesting

  • @pabloreyes7774
    @pabloreyes7774 Před 5 lety

    It was interesting to hear it from u

  • @GIboy1990
    @GIboy1990 Před 5 lety

    I think the most accurate way to represent the bar bend would to strap it to a wench with a scale using 2 straps to emulate hand placement. measure the center of the bar from the floor (11 at rest") and note how much distance the bar travels before the weight leaves the ground as well as noting the weight-in-hand at the various heights of bar travel.

  • @heavyribassmaiden4924
    @heavyribassmaiden4924 Před 5 lety

    Very awsome!!!!!!

  • @svmuscle7677
    @svmuscle7677 Před 5 lety

    I feel that it's just mainly a comfort thing, between the thickness and the slight length difference in the bar... I am only in the 500 range but I can definitely feel like using a good dead lift bar helps out a good amount

  • @ahmedmagdy-qg3tb
    @ahmedmagdy-qg3tb Před 5 lety

    good content keep it up buddy
    also i would like to say i like conventional more than sumo keep posting more conventional please
    thanks

  • @Roars270
    @Roars270 Před 5 lety

    Belt vs beltless pulling? You may or may have not made a video about this. I’m interested in your opinion!

  • @shreddedvarun
    @shreddedvarun Před 5 lety +6

    stiffbar is tougher wrt to dl bar as it lacks the whip. I have experienced a 10kg difference

  • @nickg4258
    @nickg4258 Před 5 lety +2

    I think it's person to person as well. Being short and pulling hook grip, I feel like I get more than 20lbs out of the deadlift bar but not from the whip mostly from the ease of gripping the bar.

  • @sverigeforsberg4843
    @sverigeforsberg4843 Před 4 lety +1

    the stiff bar makes my back a lot more sore and makes the lift almost painful, and I find its much more difficult to get speed of the floor, the deadlift bar really makes my back feel really good during and after 600+ lifts, in short love the powerbar, hate the stiff bar. Great video BTW, the only video on internet that adresses this issue.

  • @afterburneriii2096
    @afterburneriii2096 Před 5 lety

    VERY COOL VIDEO🤸🥂

  • @spredator100
    @spredator100 Před 5 lety

    thanks man

  • @nsxmatt
    @nsxmatt Před 5 lety

    The difference I feel is the initial shock from no bend and all the weight. Even if there isn’t much bend it still takes the “shock” out of the initial pull and mentally you don’t feel all the weight at once. Plus the bend on regular gym plates pulls them off the ground one by one compared to a stiff bar. 99% of my lifts are on a stiff bar but it’s much easier for me to do the same weight on a deadlift bar.

  • @pwepwe2378
    @pwepwe2378 Před 5 lety

    nice one bruv

  • @someyoungguy8389
    @someyoungguy8389 Před 5 lety +3

    Nice Video really motivated me to deadlift more

  • @Jmack7861
    @Jmack7861 Před 5 lety

    I’ve noticed that you will get a lot more out of a deadlift bar than a stiff bar if it’s what you primarily train with. If you do a good mix or use a stiff bar for most of your training it will be less of a gap

  • @martinhoff98
    @martinhoff98 Před 5 lety

    You should go in one day, do the 700-800 deadlift with comp plates on a stiff bar, then another day do it on the deadlift bar, that way you can have an effective training day and still compare the two scenarios with identical load and plates used

  • @JSheetzArtwork
    @JSheetzArtwork Před 5 lety +2

    8:16 When lifting session is over and i cant stop thinking about eating when i get home.

  • @lilbabygoated
    @lilbabygoated Před 5 lety +2

    I'm assuming the deadlift bar is more useful for sumo? Conventional pullers usually struggle with lockout, the lockout is still technically the same with a deadlift bar except you get more speed at the start to make the lockout easier. For sumo it's mostly about getting the weight off the ground so the more efficient start position with the deadlift bar should be more helpful compared to conventional where all you get is a little more speed to lock out. Also closer hand position from sumo will make it bend more.

  • @ddomaster87
    @ddomaster87 Před 5 lety +1

    Nest time: Please put the same plates for both bars: one calibrated and one non-calibrated on each!

  • @lastactionhero7541
    @lastactionhero7541 Před 5 lety +12

    The knurling on the Eleiko bar is crazy. How did that feel with a hook grip?

    • @jaredjackson3257
      @jaredjackson3257 Před 5 lety

      Have you ever lifted with a deadlift bar? Lol

    • @dionisiuskusuma1462
      @dionisiuskusuma1462 Před 5 lety +1

      Lol, deadlift bar has even more aggressive knurling compared to eleiko stiff bar

    • @lastactionhero7541
      @lastactionhero7541 Před 5 lety

      Dionisius Kusuma must have been a different bar than my training partner has because yes of course I’ve used both.

    • @lastactionhero7541
      @lastactionhero7541 Před 5 lety

      Dionisius Kusuma actually it was an Ivanko bar not eleiko. Ever used one of those?

  • @Nasosdag
    @Nasosdag Před 5 lety

    Jesus, that speed...