A very long time ago I made a wedge for this type of repair. My sister's violin teacher described what he wanted and I made it as a loose part which he could glue later. Good to see how it should be done!
Love your videos, can you explain why, if the neck is already loose, why not go ahead and take it off and reset it to the correct angle instead of the shim
The neck was already loose but only at the back side. The joint between the neck and the notch was still good. This joint is difficult to take off. Also when changing the angle of the neck also make the surface of the neck for this joint and after everything is glued in place there is chance the you have to remodel the notch or the neck and re-varnish. all this take much more time than the wedge I made. I will make a video in the future in the way you suggest and you will be able to see the difference.
Yes removing the whole neck is a more time consuming and labour intensive method and also more dangerous as it can breakoff the little horseshoe at the bottom/base of the violin. But wouldn’t an alternative method of making a wedge be be slotted into the gap between neck and body be a solution? Or would that make the neck drop again over time as compression takes place? Anyway you did an excellent job by using ebony wedge beneath the fingerboard.
Very Nice, Thank You! I have an old (1960's) violin with the same problem. I don't have any Ebony, but I have some very dense, and dark brown Granadillo. Is there any reason besides aesthetics why I can not use this material? the Violin is an inexpensive student model that I am repairing just for fun.
You could do (or let a violin maker do it for you) the opposite of whet I did by putting a wedge thicker close to the higher end of the fingerboard. But look out that the neck doesn't become to thick.
Great video for explaining both the problem and solution. I bought a used handmade violin with this problem, but I don't know if its high quality enough to justify fixing it. Can you give me some idea of how much do you estimate in cost of labor and materials for a luthier to fix it?
I found your video because my inherited violin has a low fingerboard. It is exactly 17mm in the middle and you've shown me the exact method and measurements to repair it. I don't have access to ebony though, what wood would you suggest as a substitute? Thank you so much for this video
Yes making a bridge is an art of it’s own. So many variables from choosing the right size (based on location of bassbar and soundpost) to carving out the hearts - i would love to see this as well.
I have to say that I have never seen an instrument with completely no purfling. Sometimes it is scratched (two thin lines next to each other) or drawn.
By resetting every angle I would lose some wood and the high would become to low. Also it was the join neck-block that was a bit loos but the joint neck-back was still OK ind that is the hardest joint to remove with the most risk of more damage on the instrument!
@@maestrokimon 1:39 Some pegs can be expensive, I would advise to be more gentle, especially since the customer is trusting you to care for their instrument
@@maestrokimon If the neck angle become lower due to humidity then do you think is it possible to make the neck angle back higher again by apply heat to the back of the violin ?? Thanks first
I would never apply heat to the instrument. You will dry it out and parts may fall apart, as there might be cracks. You will have to way for drier weather...
@@maestrokimon Am sorry one more question here. May i know what glue you use ?? Normally how long you wait to make sure those glue do it's job ?? Thanks again.
That bug is called a moth in English, but I think night butterfly has a better ring to it
A "colleague in my workshop". (Funny! This guy is so cool.)
I love your videos please keep them coming . Thank you.
I laughed out loud a couple of times! Thank you for being so silly and knowledgeable at the same time!
Thank you so much Joseph! As you see violinmaking is also fun!!!!
A very long time ago I made a wedge for this type of repair. My sister's violin teacher described what he wanted and I made it as a loose part which he could glue later. Good to see how it should be done!
I enjoy your presentation each time adoring your skills.
Thank you very much for your kind words!
Great video! Love how you use the strings to clamp the neck reset. 🍻
Work smart, not hard!!!
Thank you for sharing your videos, they are very helpful and enjoyable.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Your fingerboard clamp is very handy looking! I'm going to try to make one now.
That’s a moth!
You made everything look easy. I will certainly will not even consider an attempt as this is way beyond my ability.
Thank you! don't underestimate yourself. if you don't try, everything will look beyond your ability.
Very helpful, thank you!
You're welcome!
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Very nice video and informative video. I like all your videos.
Great
Kimonaki, I must say that your videos are getting better and better!!! :)
Thank you! doing my best!!!!!
Spotted Lantern fly
Love your videos, can you explain why, if the neck is already loose, why not go ahead and take it off and reset it to the correct angle instead of the shim
The neck was already loose but only at the back side. The joint between the neck and the notch was still good. This joint is difficult to take off. Also when changing the angle of the neck also make the surface of the neck for this joint and after everything is glued in place there is chance the you have to remodel the notch or the neck and re-varnish. all this take much more time than the wedge I made. I will make a video in the future in the way you suggest and you will be able to see the difference.
Yes removing the whole neck is a more time consuming and labour intensive method and also more dangerous as it can breakoff the little horseshoe at the bottom/base of the violin. But wouldn’t an alternative method of making a wedge be be slotted into the gap between neck and body be a solution? Or would that make the neck drop again over time as compression takes place? Anyway you did an excellent job by using ebony wedge beneath the fingerboard.
The insect is a moth.
Awesome video. Do the cello fingerboard repair, please 😊
Thank you! What do you mean with the cello fingerboard repair?
@@maestrokimon I mean, can you make a video of you repairing a cello's fingerboard?
Hello how much would it cost to repair the finger board...cause mine just broked A little bit.
It depends how it's broken. You can send me a couple of pictures so I can see it and tell you more. info@maestrokimon.com
Very Nice, Thank You! I have an old (1960's) violin with the same problem. I don't have any Ebony, but I have some very dense, and dark brown Granadillo. Is there any reason besides aesthetics why I can not use this material? the Violin is an inexpensive student model that I am repairing just for fun.
I think that it will do the job perfectly!
@@maestrokimon Thank You!
Hello, would you please tell me what is the right angle of a fingerboard to a viola16
hi, why didn't you use blue take to mask of the neck so that you wouldn't scrap of the surface as you filed down the ebony fingerboard?
1:33 that face lol
The pegs where so stiff and cracking!!!!
I have a violin with the opposite problem. The neck angle is too great. Needing a very high bridge. Would be better to lower the angle some.
You could do (or let a violin maker do it for you) the opposite of whet I did by putting a wedge thicker close to the higher end of the fingerboard. But look out that the neck doesn't become to thick.
It could be the violin is in too dry a climate - make sure you humidify - over time it should drop - may take 6 months to a year
What type of glue are you using in the join of the neck? Thank you so much appreciate the videos!
Hot hide glue.
Great video for explaining both the problem and solution. I bought a used handmade violin with this problem, but I don't know if its high quality enough to justify fixing it. Can you give me some idea of how much do you estimate in cost of labor and materials for a luthier to fix it?
Will you be doing another violin showing the alternative method of raising the fingerboard angle?
I don't know if it is so interesting. You just have to put the wedge in the opposite direction.
hi maestro kimon ... very successful... can you say fingerboard clamp where is the buy ?
I made the clamp on my own. You can see my video about it here: czcams.com/video/Yae8Igvy3cU/video.html
I found your video because my inherited violin has a low fingerboard. It is exactly 17mm in the middle and you've shown me the exact method and measurements to repair it. I don't have access to ebony though, what wood would you suggest as a substitute? Thank you so much for this video
You could use a piece of maple.
@@maestrokimon ok thank you 🙂
What solvent did you use to take the glue off the fingerboard please? Thank you
@@johnbat6743 If it's glued with warm glue then you can use warm water. If it's glued with synthetic white glue then you have a problem...
@@maestrokimon I guess we'll find out in the process then 😅
what type of glue did you use to fix the neck??
thanks,
Just normal hide glue.
Olá! Quantos centímetros você falou no min 7:14? Obrigado!
Hello! How many centimeters did you say at 7:14 min? Thank you!
21mm ;)
Why all this work, when you can replace the fingerboard with a correct one?
Can you please show use how to make a new bridge. Thank you .
Thank you. This maybe a topic for the future! Stay tuned!
Yes making a bridge is an art of it’s own. So many variables from choosing the right size (based on location of bassbar and soundpost) to carving out the hearts - i would love to see this as well.
Is it normal for violins to not have purfling?
I have to say that I have never seen an instrument with completely no purfling. Sometimes it is scratched (two thin lines next to each other) or drawn.
@@maestrokimon thank you!
I noticed that too, I wonder who made it, I suppose we'll never know.
It is moth
As neck was found to be loose why not just reset angles?
By resetting every angle I would lose some wood and the high would become to low. Also it was the join neck-block that was a bit loos but the joint neck-back was still OK ind that is the hardest joint to remove with the most risk of more damage on the instrument!
What kind of glue did you use to secure the loose neck? -Thanks!
Just hide glue us usual.
Ah, yes. The applicator you used had me fooled. Thanks.
What glue y use
Hot hide glue.
Cool vid video how much $ was the neck block.. Repair ?.? Thx
Thanks but it would have been better to say which way or both ways you will use at the beginning. No offense meant!
Hello Patrick. Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean.
Pretty aggressive with the filing at the end, no? It looked like you were changing the width of the neck.
I had to take some wood away but didn't touch the neck! You have to know when to stop!!!
Night butterfly: moth
Thank you!!
Yeah... tossing every piece into a box....
Sorry? I don't understand what you mean...
@@maestrokimon
1:39
Some pegs can be expensive, I would advise to be more gentle, especially since the customer is trusting you to care for their instrument
Did you watch the video till the end?
Job like this must be very costly right ??
You need some €€€ to do it indeed!!!
@@maestrokimon If the neck angle become lower due to humidity then do you think is it possible to make the neck angle
back higher again by apply heat to the back of the violin ?? Thanks first
I would never apply heat to the instrument. You will dry it out and parts may fall apart, as there might be cracks. You will have to way for drier weather...
@@maestrokimon Am sorry one more question here. May i know what glue you use ?? Normally how long you wait to
make sure those glue do it's job ?? Thanks again.
I use hot hide glue. I mostly wait one night. 6 to 8 hours are enough if you don't put tension, 24 hours to put tension.
Het is volgensmij een moth in het engels
Het kan best zo zijn inderdaad! Ik kwam niet op het woord op dat moment!
oh shit that's chinese cicada. that's hazardous