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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- The Hippiearab Podcast --- S1 E11
Everyone is talking about Barbie, arguably the movie of the year- also known as a heavy feminist propaganda piece. The movie tries to tackle many issues within various interconnected plots. What did this movie do right and why is everyone talking about it?
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Um...maybe the scene in the beginning wasn't an attack on motherhood? Dolls before Barbie were always baby dolls. Then Barbie came along and changed the game i.e. dolls for girls weren't JUST restricted to motherhood after that. That was simply it. I don't know why people insist it was an attack on motherhood. It was an ironic, silly scene. I saw the film as a celebration of the relationship between mothers and daughters. My favourite scene was the one that resonated with you as well.
YESSSS EXACTLY!!! it WASN’T an attack on motherhood AT ALL. i mean, there are barbie dolls that are specifically created to be mothers??? i had some back when i was a child??
To be fair she did later admit the movie included themes appreciating motherhood and that scene may just be absurd for the sake of a comedy movie. But you can't help interpret it that way as a Muslim who values motherhood over everything else because frankly it is held honorably in Islam knowing how much woman have to go through for it (periods, pregnancy, giving birth, and the daily sacrifices for their children). It is said that Paradise lies under the mother's feet, as in to treat and respect her the most for it leads to Paradise. Not to forget that motherhood and family is the backbone of society to keep moving. Of course we as women can still have other passions and work but we priotise that first. So yeah :) I hope this shares a better perspective!
I think it’s seen as an attack because they literally attacked the baby dolls 😂 they could have made a different “silly” scene and that was the choice.
You can point everything out, but you should realise before watching the movie. She mentioned expecting it to be feminism propaganda, and as you know, for some reason feminists in the media appear to dislike motherhood a lot.
When you expect something to be their you'll see it.
Thats how you analyse it but its so obvious the film pushed the gay agenda and the agenda of ridiculing men to some silly beings if you did not see that its ok
Sis I'm a muslim too but I don't agree with the things that you've just said and it has nothing to do with religion. Being a feminist, at least for me, is being fair and stranding up for yourself/women when you need to. A woman can be a mother, a single person or a dominant person. It's their choice and their life and they should be able to choose that. We might find some people's choices not right for us or our religion but the important thing is we should let them choose even if we don't agree with it. A mother shouldn't be criticized for being a stay at home mom just like a single woman shouldn't be criticized for being single. It's simple as that for me.
No, most feminists want to be Men and take away the meaning of 2 different gender roles. Feminist stand strong that both men and women are the same when we are not!!! No Godly person should stand with feminism, this is a new modern blasphemous activism movement.
EXACTLY!!
YESSS!!
if being a feminist is haram, and Allah has already made the religion perfect and gave women rights, whats the point of being a feminist ?
@@huawyn feminism is needed in Afghanistan. the women there are muslims but are deprived of basic human rights so yeah we do need feminism. also, how does advocating access to education for women (feminism) haram when Allah Himself commands us to seek knowledge? feminism will never be haram and if people think otherwise, they are straight up misogynists.
Having equal rights and equal opportunities is not the same as being identical. This is not a logical argument.
@user-gi4qd4yz6x you don't understand and it shows so bad
@@p0lyblank Explain then
Explain then @user-gi4qd4yz6x
You don’t get it obviously. Listen, men and women CANNOT have equal right and opportunities.we’re different.It’s hard for you to accept it but it’s just facts.Peace
@bhangrafan4480
The thing is, the absolute equality in rights and opportunities that feminism wants is going to have different impacts on men and women (because they're not identical both psychologically and physically.. Think just about the example of the hormonal cycle that Farah talked about).. It would be better to see these rights and opportunities from a lense of *equity* (meaning each one would get suitable rights according to what they need and what they can handle) rather than *equality* and as a Muslim I think Islam comes more from a perspective of equity (I'm not here to tell you Islam is the best lifestyle btw, though I believe it is, I'm just trying to also explain why she says she can't be Muslim and feminist a the same time 😉). And btw, Islam has many women's rights and many rights for men as well.. Some are similar, some are different. Some make you think like "oh men are more priviliged at this" and some would make you think "oh wow women are more priviliged at this" (i.e: periods being considered as a state of illness on which we should EAT in Ramadan. If a man is just exhausted but not sick, he should still fast. Another example, a man's money being his wife's money too, as he's under obligation to provide but it is not an obligation on her to spend on the household even if she earns money...)
That's long enough 😅 I hope It helped clearing that perspective 😊👍
“Western feminism is not teenagers saying stuff on the internet, it's much more than that and very much needed here” - totally agree with this one. I live in Russia and feminism here help lots of women to get through tough things. Women in Russia aren’t protected: you can’t rely on the government; beating women is normalized here, stalking women and so on - for many-many people in Russia all of it is not considered like something inappropriate. You can see how raped women are blamed for it on TV, you can hear that women have to be incredibly beautiful all the time and so on. And you are right - feminism means different things to each person. And for me feminism means protecting women. There are feminists in Russia who create organizations that help women if they are being abused: suffering women can get free help from lawyers, doctors, psychologists; they also can stay in a safe shelter if they need to be hidden.
Patriarchy is also a thing. You know, I think the problem is that feminism is a movement, which means it involves lots of people, so, of course, there are going to be the crazy ones. I mean, when I see how some ecological activists destroy paintings in art-galleries and so on, I do not start to think that being an eco-activist is bad. There are going to be feminists that will say that men and women are totally the same, but it doesn’t mean that this what feminism is about. I just feel like saying that feminism is only about that kind of equality and about women having a great career is wrong, as feminists have done so much more than that.
Also, I don’t think that less children are born because of feminism. Firstly, people would bear more children in the past because there weren’t lots of ways to heal diseases, so many children would simply die, so if a child died, parents wanted to have another one. Secondly, I believe that less children are born nowadays because people are starting realize how hard it is to raise a child. So some people decide that they won’t be able to handle being a mother, some people feel like they will be able to raise only one child, and it all just because they feel the responsibility. Ig there are even more reasons, but, all in all, I don’t think that people would stop making children because feminists said it was bad or stupid.
Moreover, feminism doesn’t say that being a mother is something that keeps you in a cage. Lots of feminists, esp in Russia, say that it’s a wonderful thing and in Russia they even have to protect pregnant women. Even here patriarchy is insane: some men force their wives with children to work a lot, even though they spend lots of energy on raising a child. Some men make their wives have sex after giving birth just because they’re tired of waiting. Some men really underestimate what it feels like being a mother. And feminism tells us about how hard it is. And many feminists in Russia helped mothers to leave their abusive families and so on. That’s why I strongly believe that feminism protects mothers.
It's also hard to tell that being able to create children is a privilege. Reproductive abuse is a thing. Also, it might be hard to find a job for a woman because employers might be afraid that a woman will get pregnant and won’t be able to work. Privilege is supposed to make your life feels easier. And, in my opinion, it doesn’t work like this with pregnancy.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion! I didn’t watch the movie, but I saw that most people loved it, so I got curious when I saw the title of your video. It was really interesting to hear your point of view on these issues, as you’re from completely different culture and country. I love your videos! They really broaden my horizons and make me think. Sorry for my long comment, but these are thoughts that I felt I had to share.
Loved your thoughts on it, hearing other people's perspectives actually does help us look beyond our culture and country ✨️
Very beautiful thoughts and observations💜Partly agree with you.
i completely agree with you, being a ukrainian and western feminism being so miss-used, in a sense where it’s like a joke at that point and not something serious like protecting women, (which i know feminism is different to everyone) it still just fascinated me how westerns perceive feminism, and thank you for sharing your opinion, i didn’t watch the movie either but your lil speech really opened my eyes hahah
wow your comment was so well articulated, thank you for that! :)
Лучше и не скажешь!💗🤝
as a muslim, being a feminist (literal definition) means you believe both genders are equal…this shouldnt conflict with islam at all? allah sees us all as equal?
equal but not the same
men and women are two different things
Equal in piety. But our roles and responsibilities are different that contributes balance each other and understand each other.
Equal in value as humans, different in ability is how I see it.
@@Blackgreenwhiteredbest way to see it
@@Blackgreenwhiteredwhat abilities?
the most beautiful thing to hear " I'm a Muslim that's why I'm not a feminist" That is enough cause you are stating facts, and facts are not arguable.
Exactly, a muslim is all you need to say. Islam has the answer for all humanity
The Taliban in Afghanistan call themselves Muslim, yet they oppress women. Calling oneself a "feminist Muslim" would be more descriptive than just "Muslim" since some Muslims are opposed to the oppression of women, and some Muslims aren't.
well at least you are finally honest about the fact that islam is based on subjugation of women... if she doesn't like feminism, she shouldn't use the byproducts of it - the very platform that she uses to spread her opinions as a woman and get payed for it. go back to the kitchen and leave the talking and decision making to your husband since you're so muslim lmao
@spennyb89
Muslim and feminist they don't go together. A muslim is an honourable title.
The definition of a Muslim is one who submits his will to the will of Allah alone.
You can not be a muslim and also hold beliefs that go against or are in clear contradiction to Islam.
The taliban is a group of people, a government of sorts. They are not the legal authority on Islam, and their oppression of women comes from their own invention.
Islam brought rights and objective rights from Allah(swt), the one who created us, He alone has to right to command us on what is right or wrong.
The ultimate source of authority for muslims is the Holy Quran, the verbatim words of Allah(swt)
The rights Allah(swt) has given through the Quran that he has written:
Rights for slaves(war criminals since in islam you cannot grab anyone of the streets and claim they are your slave, it has to be from among a group that fought against you in war with the intent to kill).
Here's a link to a reliable source on what Slavery was in Islam
islamqa.info/en/answers/94840/slavery-in-islam
Right for Women, Rights for Men, rights of children, rights of orphans, rights of your parents, and rights of your neighbours, etc.
What is forbidden is clear.
Quran chapter 3: verse 36
"The male is not like the female"
Definition of feminism: the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.
Islam does not align with this. The sexes are not equal. They are equal, not in psychology, physiology,
Men = Women
Women are not > than men
Men are not > than women
Does a father have the same role as a mother?
Does a father have to breastfeed a child?
Does a man have to hold a baby for 9 months?
Does a man have periods?
How can a man claim to be equal to a woman? What evidence does he bring forth?
Does a mother have to provide for the family interms of food and clothing and money? Does a woman have to defend her husband in case of an attack upon the household?
How can a woman claim to be equal to a man? What evidence does she bring forth?
A womans money is her money, and her husbands money is her money.
A man has the responsibility to his family to protect them from physical harm, to provide for them, and to take care of their safety.
A womans responsibility is to her family, to her loving husband who takes care of her financially means she must be his peace to nurture the life in her belly, to love the child more than anything to raise the children to feed them to care for them.
Men are not like Women, they do not desire the same things. They do not have the same bodies. They were each created for one another.
As salam alikum
islamqa.info/en/answers/70042/what-are-the-rights-of-women-in-islam
@@spennyb89 But feminism is not a monolithic term, either. Are you a Marxist feminist? A liberal feminist? Second wave or third wave feminist, etc.? In fact, there are many definitions and tenets of feminism that are constantly shifting and contradicting one another based on the era and region.
If you have a basic understanding of orthodox Islam, however, the definition of "Muslim" is much more cohesive and evident than feminism. Islam has an orthodox text and body of knowledge (by which the Taliban can objectively be criticized, for example). Feminism, being socially constructed, does not and cannot objectively maintain either a definition or basis for moral judgement. Therefore, adding "feminist" to "Muslim" is both unnecessary and far less descriptive than just saying "Muslim."
guys im not gonna lie i don't think she is a feminist
😂
Beg to differ, feminism and radical feminism are 2 different things. A muslim girl can definitely say that shes a feminist.
She covers her body bc of men. I don't think it's somehow related to feminism. As well as religion told you what to do and what not to do.
Covering oneself predates Islam and is literally present across all cultures/religions/time periods. Muslim women are not the only in the world to cover themselves. Morever, they cover themselves because it is a command from God as is in many religions. Muslim men too have restictions on how they can and cannot dress.
Feminism is here to support women and allow them to make choices for themselves. If Muslim women choose to follow the commandments of God feminism supports that because its about CHOICE@@poisonedh
Muslim means feminist period
@whispernow6639
Btw, one goal of feminism is women being able to wear whatever they want without feeling forced or being judged
@@YoB-pz1ybislam is more abt equity not equality tho which esswntially they are intersected in a way
I don't get why everyone's attacking Barbie as if it did anything other than tell the truth of society?? The issues that were presented such as unfair expectations of women, double standards and the domination of men in society etc. are extremely real things that women have to go through on a day to day basis and it about time it was spelled out for everyone (especially guys) through mainstream media.
PatRiaRcY
I’m a woman who’s never once experienced this “domination of men” and personally I think that constantly painting women as “victims of the system” is doing more harm than good in our world. Yes women have struggles, but men have plenty of their own as well, & all the movie’s talk of patriarchy didn’t make me feel represented or supported-it just made me feel nauseous tbh.
Overall I just don’t want my little brother to grow up in a world where men are vilified & this rising gender movement has me verrry stressed about the future
Do u truly believe that the kens in barbieland are equivalent to women in the real world. thats what the movie alluded to and im offended ngl. All is not doom and gloom the movie makes it seem like the world is a hell hole for women only, when rlly the world is bad for everyone. we have different stuggles to men and thats it.
Simply because you haven't experienced "this domination of men" doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm really glad that you haven't experienced anything of such a sort, but the world's far beyond your myopic view of it. We have historically been patriarchal making it so deeply ingrained in our society, that far more women experience it than you think. Also while both men and women face challenges, gender specific or personal challenges, recognising one does not imply dismissing the other. They aren't mutually exclusive. Also those movies create awareness, and I'm sure your only take on them cannot be that they say 'anti men'
@@mai.333 I fully acknowledge that in some countries-particularly of 3rd world or war torn nature, as well as in many extreme situations such as those of sex trafficking, female protection and advocacy are fully warranted and very much needed. I do believe there are millions upon millions of women treated unfairly or literally abused and that of course needs to change.
I just wrote my previous comment from a mainstream American perspective, where I’ve definitely witnessed girls getting special treatment and boys treated unfairly solely because of their gender-the rise of feminism in climates where feminism isn’t needed can cause unjust gender bias in the opposite direction is all I mean.
Economic forces make women enter the workforce. You can't not work if you don't have enough money coming in to the household. Women with rich husbands have the choice, but they are inevitably a minority.
women working meant financial independence. so many men used to take advantage of women who were financially dependent on them. it is and was such a important step for women towards equality. Farah‘s talking about an ideal islamic society, subhanallah all these islamic countries, wealthy or not, have the wisdom of Islam in their hands and hearts, yet in reality womens status is so low. this is a fact. and then slander the wests approach to improve the situation of women? feminism is not black and white, it means different things to different people. Islamic countries do not execute Islam the way it really should be in regards to women. Muslim people don‘t value women the way they should be. Feminism, to me, points out this fact and is the drive towards change. It gets diluted to terminology. You can call it something else, but what I’m talking about is the gap between ‚philosophy‘ and ‚reality‘. Feminism is just a word that is politically loaded, however interestingly Islam has the exact same problem (from a westeners eye)
“Yet in reality womens status is so low” - source?? Don’t spew feminist propaganda without your evidences. The west has some of the highest depression and unhappiness rates across the board. Yeah…Im sure the working women in the west is a lot happier than a woman in a nuclear family (muslim or non muslim)
That’s not actually true, we have so many luxuries today. iPhones, internet, cars, food that we could make ourselves, clothes we could make ourselves and repair, water that comes straight to our houses, electricity, and many things we think we need but we don’t. Women all over Muslim world and Africa manage without these things, because they make their own clothes and food and such and live with less. It’s very possible, but not if you want all of these luxurious things that have been invented in the last hundred years.
This is all part of the work they do. Poor people need to buy many things, not just luxuries but essentials like the foods they can't produce themselves, tools etc. Then there is education, healthcare etc. The idea of women not working is for the rich and upper middle classes. @@FayeGwenn
Btw I appreciate how much thought you put into this review of the movie. But it is kind of clear to me that you went in with a bias and that bias is colouring your views. I get it, we're all biased. No amount of thinking about the movie will just make it go away. But I think part of the reason you're so 'confused' about the film is because deep down, you don't want to acknowledge certain things because they clash with a preconceived worldview that you don't want challenged. You get so close to getting what's actually being said and then you take a hard left for some reason. Then you say you didn't like the movie. Which is absolutely fine. But also, it's clear you don't understand the movie because deep down, you don't want to. I'm sure you won't like this comment but believe me, I don't mean anything malicious by it. This is my genuine observation. It doesn't really have anything to do with our differing politics. It's just...human psychology, I guess. I think we're all prone to this kind of behaviour at times. I know I am. No hate.
100% agree with you
"You get so close to getting what's actually being said and then you take a hard left for some reason." This is how I felt throughout the whole video too
YOURE SOOO REAL FORTHIS!! EXACTLYY!!
I’m curious, what are the certain truths of this movie that she wasn’t acknowledging? (No hate just asking)
i came into the movie without any knowledge of it being a feminist movie, assuming it'd be a more psychological film as it's advertised. Even so, I was super uncomfortable at a lot of it, because I was confused on what message they were trying to push in one scene and the other. One scene there was a jab at how companies can be peformative with Will Ferrel defending the barbie company bc there was once a female ceo even though now it's all men, and saying they even have gender neutral bathrooms. which is funny sure, but still incredibly cringy?? then how the girls were getting out of being brainwashed to be how women used to be, by literally hearing the cringiest feminist sentence EVER - like.. was that satire? if it was then i can see how that's funny, but it's confusing to joke badly about your own movement? especially with how fast paced the movie is, you are constantly trying to understand their message is and that is pretty uncomfortable.
feminism is gender equality but nowadays ppl mistake it with misandry it's hilarious and sad
In Islam, we should strive for gender equity and not gender equality.
@@dascore90 sure, i just say that equality is important too with all that gender ware, i wish we could stop this rn, the world is getting worse and worse.. it's nonsense
@@imthepprotagonist absolutely. and yea the world is getting worse i hate it.
What we so often forget is that God has honored the woman by giving her value in relation to God-not in relation to men. But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left-except men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man.
-Yasmin Mogahed-
bcs sadly that's what modern day feminists make it look like undeniably. plus the term Muslim is enough for us Muslims. i feel so happy knowing that my religion gave me my rights before anything else did. for that i'm forever going to be thankful to my religion.
I was so surprised when you named the parralel to the women in the working force. Becuase for me, the choice for Barbie was about personal growth. If she would have stayed in Barbieland, she would not have the experiences that made her grow as a person. And that is the ´real ´ hard way.
I thought the same thing! I thought it was representative of the fact that no one can actually get the answers they want or need - knowingly or unknowingly - without having to struggle for them.
Barbie movie is extremely pro-motherhood, girlhood and self-love. i think you are just putting your rethoric (not universaly islamic as you seem to think, just yours and consequently not perfect) to fill the empty spaces for thoughts the movie gives you, when that postmodernist extremist feminism is not actually there. I also think you talk about not being a feminist with an elitist attitude which does no one a favor, not you, not other muslims. There are some points of feminism that agree with Islam, and a lot that dont. You don't have to identify with anything in particular entirely but you dont have to be extremely opposing it all the time neither, from a place of hate or superiority. Lets be kind with people that only want the world to be beter WITHOUT HURTNG OTHERS. I think projecting your own political ideology onto a contemporary movie (because yes that is you political ideology girl, that is not strictly islam even if you would like to portray so) and that is not bad, but lets not mock muslim girs that like some things about feminism and equality. It comes back to politics, you are not talking about Islam. No need to be extremist about others believes to be firm in yours, i say it from a place of love and much concern.
Hard truths
@@Idkwhatthisiz honest truth mate
It sounds like you don't take your own advice.
I am aware of my own political views! @@toni3607
REAL REAL REAL !!!! also this whole idea on oh you shouldn't be a feminist because you're a muslim and islam already gives you the rights doesnt work in the contemporary society. Okay, Islam and Allah see me equal to a man, but does the society and country I live in sees me as one? These are extremely regressive and ignorant perspectives. How could you so conveniently look over and past the 'cultural' changes that have seeped so much into our daily lives? Islam isn't helping me to get equal pay in my job as compared to my male counterpart or it isn't protecting me from the daily misogynistic remarks that time and again want to make us feel inferior. I know what's in my heart, what's my intention, Allah knows. Shaming muslim women who are trying to be take their very well deserved space in the household, in work places, inside or outside isn't very cool.
I watched the movie and it’s not that bad. Could’ve been better. It’s not anti men as most people say it is. Ken did that whole war thing and that’s when Barbie realized how unfair barbieland is to the Kens. It was pro-men showing that they can think about who they are instead of living under a Barbie’s shadow. The movie showed how it’s fine to look normal and not like Barbie. Idk why there’s so much hatred against it when it’s just a fun movie. Not for kids tho!
Wasn’t as pro men as pro women, ken is still just ken and can still only beach and still depends on impressing barbie when barbie can live without ken
I actually agree , i enjoyed the movie and didn’t feel anti-men ; the kens were actually treated unfairly (they didnt even have a home) and after seeing the real world were inspired to take charge.Barbieland was a matriarchy since the start but there wasn’t actual societal pressures and discrimination to the kens , they just liked to hang out with the barbies and were quite simple-minded.
@@kisumisakura9128 I agree but he's in Barbieland. When I was little, I didn't have a Ken doll and if I did, I'm sure he would only be known as Barbie's bf. They showed the reality of Barbieland and it's fine.
I can not agree with that when they showes that a dolt is smarter than any other men and that kens are just exciting only for Barbie ..
@@kisumisakura9128 well as a child, Ken was boring. We liked to play with Barbie's hair and clothes...we didn't think too deep as children.
The conversation about women in the 50s wanting or not to have careers and jobs outside the home and motherhood is an interesting one. I don't think they were forced into it, it's about choice.
If you look into depression rates before the women's liberation movement or listen to stories about how women felt in marriages they couldn't economically escape, you'll see that being able to have your own money did improve women's lives. When Barbie came out, it was scandalous because it went against the status-quo of little girls playing only with babies, because it taught kids they could have careers too.
And I don't see the movie as downplaying motherhood. America Ferrera's character is a mother and part of her journey is reconnecting with her daughter.
Okay I haven't watched the podcast yet, lol getting to it, but I just wanted to comment on how women were 'pushed' into the workforce. Essentially, when the western economy was rattled, women had no choice but to enter work to support themselves and their families or because men weren't there to do their own jobs (war, etc.). If they did not, their families would've been in physical and financial ruin. In much more recent times, the government has played a role too. Frankly, they don't care about your rights, they just want money. Now when half the population isn't working, that is half the population that you are not able to tax. The government has put and continues to put great emphasis on the working woman, and this has not only doubled their revenue but also most families today are not able to live off of a single income. Past events pushed women into work, then the government trapped women into work, and so whether choice is involved or not, the facts are that women were never introduced into the workplace for the sake of rights or our 'freedom' so to speak, it was to benefit the economy in one way or the other.
This is the hidden side to so called 'feminism' that nations are encouraging, and there is so much more to it than the surface of women choosing to work or not, we were always dolls being played with and still are even amidst the golden era of feminism because feminism itself is a guise for society to be in control of us.
This is why I answer to no other than god and is also why I'd encourage others to do the same.
Ok the pregnant barbie thing, the movie was definitely critiquing the fact that pregnant barbie was discontinued and used it as a commentary on how people view pregnant woman as weird because woman are expected to be perfect and skinny all the time. Like yes getting pregnant is a beautiful thing but the world is so shallow towards woman that people don't even think about the fact that the woman is growing a literal human being inside of her and instead focuses on how fat she is.
My dear sister. I really enjoy hearing your thoughts and really agree with everything. I am as well not a feminist, but want to point out that equality of the two genders does not imply, that both genders are the same. There is a clear distinction between identical and equal.
I also think, that in islam women and men (the two genders mentioned above) are equal in their obligations and will be rewarded or punished equally in relations to their deeds. But they are not identical to the point that a woman has the same advantages or disadvantages than a man has and vice versa.
Equality in feminist terms does not mean, that a woman wants the rights to be exactly like a man. She is not a man. The woman wants equal rights and be able to get the opportunities she would be able to acheive by her hard work and her intelligence. That is why some working fields are still more male dominated and others aren't. But cognitively and for everything else that is not defined by gender differences, feminists strive to have the same rights as man. Which is not bad in itself.
I totally agree with the fact, that a woman has an important role in society. She is able to birth children and nurture them like no man could.
And that motherhood is a privilege specific to women. But not all women find joy in only being a mother and not all women need to have a purpose outside the house. This is what the whole "Barbie can become anything" means.
I really enjoy your takes on everything. Thank you for being entertaining and also giving food for thoughts.
i agreed with everything you just said. I don't get why people are making the word "femminist" so complicated.
like it just means that women and men get equal choice and rights. It doesn't mean the women are saying "I WANNA be a MAN"
Like what rights? The only closest example you gave regarding this is some working fields being male dominated. How has that got to do with women’s lack of rights when really it actually stems from women’s choice. I genuinely don’t understand what rights you are fighting for that a man already has that you don’t?
@salehachowdhury3715 Women get paid less than men for the same job. They are far more likely to be victims of domestic abuse and sexual violence. They can't even go to school in some places. I mean...women do not have the same rights as men. Not practically speaking anyways. Sometimes gender discrimination is enshrined in law. Everyone on the face of the earth is aware of this. I don't know what you're trying to do with this comment, honestly.
@@salehachowdhury3715 pelade read carefully chat i wrote and chat point i pas making specifically.
@@ammanusman7485 I actually don’t understand what substance your paragraph had? Not a single evidence. Just copy paste opinions from media and such. Provide your evidence where women get paid less in the same job, with same qualifications DOING THE SAME HOURS. Let’s see. Also where is gender discrimination enshrined in law? Please give reference otherwise this is just nonsense.
I feel like you kinda missed the point of the movie 😭
I don't think you understood the point of the film. Without feminism this video wouldn't exist. Regardless of whether or not some feminist beliefs contradict your religion, you wouldn't be able to read and write, go to school, get a job or even give your opinion on the film without feminism. At its core feminism is about equal rights and I don't understand how a woman could be so against that. 🤷🏻♀
I didn’t loved Barbie either but I have to disagree with you on certain important points. You went seeing the movie with bias, so of course it was going to influence your interpretation. I think you really have a misconception of feminism, because you can be the best mom, love the motherhood, even being a stay-at-home mom and still be a feminist, and I really don’t understand why you separate those two things. I think you’re interpreting a little too much sometimes, for the majority of people from what I’ve read Barbie was just a fun movie, it was great to see this universe on a big screen and yes it conveys some messages but it could’ve been 10x times more radical, especially when you know Gerwig’s work. I really don’t like the path that this channel is taking so yeah I wish you well Farah.
She doesn’t have a misconception on feminism. Remember when we say feminism we talk about current feminism- fourth wave feminism (intersectional feminism). Which has completely destroyed women, it’s the downfall of women and it’s one of the worst movements to happen not only to society but also Muslims. You don’t even have to be Muslim to see this, you just have to be… sane and logical. Not go where the wind blows or what everyone’s following. There’s many women who are not Muslim and also not feminist for this reason.
In terms of actual feminism and giving women their rights, Islam did this before feminism did. Islam is the first feminist religion which is probably why the ratio of converts are 1 man to 4 women.
@@shaikya Why you consider it as the downfall of women? I agree with Farah when she says that it's very difficult nowadays to talk about feminism because everyone has a different definition of it. I'm not really a feminist either, but I don't understand why you're perceiving it as something so negative. If you're thinking about misandrists, about women who hate motherhood and those kinds of people full of hatred then yeah I agree with you it's one of the worst movement. But in my opinion, those people are not feminists, they're just angry towards men and society in general. Real feminists are trying to find solutions, are aware of the contradictions (like in every movement), and are just trying to improve the place of women in society (especially and only in western societies but that's another topic).
@@se_5433 No not even, I’m talking about real feminists because they uphold everything that empowers a man.. not a woman. They want women to be empowered meanwhile everything they stand for is nothing that empowers a woman. They say “go work, go earn money, grind, start a business” this is literally so unhealthy for a woman; and we can see this of the basics of a woman’s hormonal cycle & periods. We are not men and we don’t function like men. The average 9-5 is very inclined to a man’s biology since for a man pretty much every day as the same and then compare this to women we have different phases each week, where we are better off doing something else each week. Sometimes we need to rest, sometimes we need to be active, sometimes sociable and sometimes creative. A 9-5 job doesn’t allow that, which is why many women are struggling emotionally and are literally exhausted because working a job as a woman is hard work and mentally exhausting. Women entering the workforce was never a healthy thing for us to do as women, we’re not biologically inclined to do this. In terms of the other things feminists in the west fight for… what are they even fighting for? We have equal rights, we actually have more advantages than men right now, we’re sought out for, we literally hold the power. There is no such thing as a patriarchy in the west and it’s not a better time to be a woman in the west then now. In other countries feminism is crucial and needed but in the west? Hell no. It’s gone too far and it’s harming women and harming society.
@@shaikyaOk but what about women who are living with abusive husbands and can’t get away because they’re financially dependent on him ? What about single moms ? I honestly agree with you on some parts but I think it has more to do with the liberal/capitalistic issues of societies than feminism. Why did women enter the workplace in the first place ? Because they needed more productivity. And yeah you’re right about feminism in the west, that’s precisely why I don’t consider myself a feminist. Also if we’re talking about harassment, domestic violence etc it’s just common sense and it has nothing to do with feminism in my opinion. But I guess some people need to feel like they belong to a movement, and a lot of them choose feminism.
@@se_5433 That’s the thing though, those are just bad men and bad men have always existed. That’s not because of the “patriarchy” or because “men are above women”. This isn’t the 1950’s where beating your wife is a common occurrence or normalised, it’s a disgusting thing to do and no decent man even thinks of such things. If working a long day means getting away from your abusive husband then of course that is the way to go but that’s a rare occurrence and isn’t normalised. In terms of single mothers I question why are they single, if they’ve had premarital sex then the answer is to simply not do that. Wait until marriage and marriage with a decent/ good man. There are things offered to single mothers and if they need to work then they need to work but we shouldn’t normalise single mothers being a thing. Instead teach the importance of family, of a healthy marriage and things like that.
Women entered the workforce in the first place because feminism preached that’s how women can be empowered but infact it’s the complete opposite, it’s not empowering it’s damaging. Feminism should of gone a complete different direction and taught women how to be empowered within what’s natural to them rather than what’s natural to men.
Why are people impulsively commenting without hearing the whole thing?
You speak a lot for someone who hasn't even bothered to do their research on what feminism is. Feminism stands for equal rights for both men and women and its not against islam at all. If you are going to make a whole video complaining about a lighthearted movie that made countless woman happy and complain at least do your research first and then sit down with your mic. Islam didn't give women rights just for you to sit here and say "I'm a Muslim hence not a feminist"
The word is "Evocation", the ability of an artwork to evoke feelings, memories, thoughts etc. in others, makes it powerful.
i think you need to watch more movies bro. you have trouble identifying elements and themes and call it dumb when you’re the one that can’t understand it even with it being surface level. (plus you went into it already with your mind half made up)
One of those uncomfortable people lol
@@monzeradil1699 but… she’s the one uncomfortable with the barbie movie?…
@@monzeradil1699this girl literally made a 40 min video whining about barbie of all things
im sorry but i find it so sad that you place so much value on motherhood. like, im so disappointed lol. i cant believe you really believe that a woman cant be satisfied from having a career and being successful in it. i truly look forward to being in the workforce and getting my dream job (its a job many people love) and i also dont want kids ever.
its so dangerous putting motherhood and having kids on this pedestal, because it inevitably will always backfire on women. dont get me wrong, it is a beautiful thing that we can create life, but at the same time, it backfires on us because putting it on a pedestal puts women who choose not to have kids have "diminished" value. literally.
i agree, i think motherhood is beautiful and it's badass that women are able to give life, but it can be very dangerous to be dependent on a man, and having kids on top of that is worse. if you do not have an education or career to fall back on then....you're doomed.
She was saying that it won’t satisfy everything. Perhaps in general, not talking about the minority ish women that it will completely satisfy. Not that every woman has to have kids, either. You’ve assumed that completely. She never mentioned it diminishing a woman’s value. Just that the women that choose to should be honoured because it’s such a lifelong, irreversible, task that keeps humanity going.
Not all women can give birth due to biological reasons or otherwise. Ayesha(RA) was childless but that didn't make her any less of a woman. Motherhood is beautiful and not appreciated enough in today's world but let's not reduce a woman's worth to motherhood. Her worth can only be defined by how close she is to God.
Beautiful way to put it!
You're so right sis!
i won't ever understand how a woman can't be a feminist. why would you not want equal rights and free choices, i don't get it
For my part I think that feminism is immoral (abortion,sexual liberation) and equal rights means equal responsibility and I personally don't want the same responsibility as a man , and as a Muslim women I have all the rights that I want alhamdulillah and I can choose whether I Obey god Allah or I desobey him it's like hijab I've chosen to obey Allah ( Hijab is an obligation by god btw but people are tested , are they gonna choose to obey or not ) , I don't get why a woman would be a feminist?
@@theflux8222well for the immoral part - sexual liberation is not immoral. you might not be on board with it because of your religion, but i’m sure you accept other people‘s belief systems or lack thereof? it‘s exactly about that. a choice.
no one is forcing you to abort, you can do whatever you want. but feminism is about letting EVERYONE do what they want with their lives and their bodies.
a woman is a feminist because she believes that every woman deserves the freedom to make her own decisions. the freedom to her body. it‘s not about you having to have a career or you having to abort a kid or you having to wear your hair freely. it‘s about letting every woman choose. and respecting women. and their choices.
it‘s great if you‘re happy with your life and your situation.
why would you want to stand in the way of other women having that happiness and content in their own way?
@@theflux8222 yeah but the point is you should have choice and ability to use those opportunities. All people should have those opportunities but if you don’t want to use and you don’t have to use them. What happens if someone does want the responsibility of a “man”. I mean you don’t want them, but what if someone else does, why should you stop them from having them if they want them just cause you don’t? Why should your decision to not take up that responsibility affect anyone else other than yourself?
I don’t understand why the fact that you don’t want to use or have opportunities gives you a reason to prevent other people from using them. If you don’t wanna use them, just don’t bother those who do.
@@rj-hg1kq I don't know where you come from "sexual liberation is not immoral " because it is and not only in my religion but in almost every religion Islam , Christianity, Judaism ... And please if you're atheist based on what you can say that this or that thing is moral or not
@@rj-hg1kq in what extent do you mean : "feminism is about letting EVERYONE do what they want with their lives and their bodies" ? if a feminist wants to kill herself because it's her life and her body would you let her ? If she wants to kill her baby aka abortion would you let her because it's her body ? or kill others because it's her life ? ( I would guess that you will say that they are free as long as they don't harm anybody but then what about abortion isn't a baby a human )
So I think that you know and I know that there is some boundaries to what you said earlier that's why there's rules to follow . A woman even in the most liberal counties cannot walk half naked as men do . A woman in my opinion have the choice in certain boundaries, she can't do whatever she wants . If she wants to kill others ? If she wants to take her life off ? If she wants to wear nothing ? If she wants to insult people ? Should we respect their choices in these specific situations ?
I think that there's this common misconception in people who aren't feminist that feminism disregards the fact that men and women are different. As a feminist myself, I don't believe that complete equality can be achieved, but I do believe that women can carry some of the roles traditionally asigned to men as well as them and viceversa, as well as sharing equal rights.
Also, about the beginning scene of Barbie, I saw a different meaning to it; I saw that the scene wanted to portray the big change that Barbie meant for little girls, due to the fact that they previously only played with baby dolls and were assigned with the role of motherhood even at such a young age. I think that the fact that the little girls threw the baby dolls away in such a dramatic way was an exaggeration (the whole movie is a comedy), but didn't mean to disregard the value of motherhood by any means.
The problem is that Barbie was great in terms of production. The story line was utter shambles and didn’t make sense. They did downplay motherhood quite boldly where they totally disregarded pregnant barbie and shoved her to the side
they didnt downplay motherhood. pregnant barbie didnt have a lot of screen time because she was discontinued 😭😭 thats all @@salehachowdhury3715
The opening was an homage to 2001: A Space Odyssey. It’s the beginning of the film where the apes find the obelisk and start losing their minds.
you dont understand the history of pregnant barbie because it got canceled years ago and that was the joke, and they didnt down play anything, one of the main characters was a mother, played by america ferrera and that character helped barbie find out her true self. and if anything the barbie movie is the biggest thank you to mothers
@@salehachowdhury3715
@luvikhun5614 Where did I say it was against pregnancy and that pregnancy was wrong? I said they disregarded pregnant barbie and downplayed motherhood because they couldn’t get their script straight and fooled people with the productions.
The storyline was confusing for people to accurately judge what was comedic and what was not OR what should have been comedic and what should have not because not everything in a comedy is comedic.
And no I didn’t see any reconnecting with the child. It was very rushed with no buildup. Instead of wasting screen time with the men in black they could definitely have expanded on their relationship better
also the whole doll scene at the start was to show how dolls before barbie were all baby dolls and barbie did something different because she was a grown women so she was a reflection of what girls wanted to be when they grew up , hence the whole "you can be anything!" that barbie represents, it just showed that before barbie , women's ONLY role was considered motherhood and hence the dolls before were barbies while barbie wanted girls to know they were MORE than that. Also barbie has an amazing representation of womenhood that me and my mother both cried over- the ending scene with America's character with her daughter was so beautiful also the scene where the old lady who created barbie holds her hand and pushes her toward a future, its literally so beautiful and just an appreciation for all women and perhaps you saw it differently because you already had all these distorted ideas about the film and you didn't go in with an open mind like you should with these films. Besides its not even that deep... at the end its just a doll movie so I don't get why people were so mad at barbieland when its literally the opposite of what real world is like , and THEY are like "FEMENIST WANT BARBIELAND" which makes me laugh so hard , its really funny.
I don't think you understand feminism. Maybe next time you talk about feminism, you should research about it. Considering the Barbie movie was talking about the basics of feminism, and the fact that you found it intricate should say something. Also, your brain is meant to handle more than one perspective. The Barbie movie wasn't criticizing motherhood, it was criticizing the idea that young girls are being forced into these caring and motherly roles exclusively, with no other choice. The whole idea about feminism is about agency and choice, not about hating men. Also thanks for the water reminder, deffo stayed hydrated! xxx
I want to note that you start by saying that you think that feminism and Islam are incompatible, but then you immediately move on to say that there are so many different types of feminism that it's hard to discuss.
But if feminism is so diverse that you can't discuss it by just saying "feminism," why would you think that feminism (all feminisms?) is incompatible with Islam?
All feminisms will agree in opposing the oppression of women. I know you believe that Islam doesnt oppress women, so why is feminism opposed to Islam? What kind of feminism are you talking about? It's possible for Islam to, in practice, oppress women. Consider, if judges, political figures, religious leaders, etc., are mostly men, then it's plausible that they would fail to fully understand or appreciate the experience of a woman in their society. If that lack of understanding can lead to unfair laws or pronouncements, then it is worthwhile to have a movement to counteract this. A Muslim woman dedicated to the non-oppression of women could quite consistently (and I think usefully) call herself a feminist Muslim.
Because the foundation is the same between all the types of feminism which is the equality between the two genders and not the equity between them that's why Islam and all types of feminism aren't compatible
Her point is that there are CORE contradictions between islam and feminism
Exhibit A:
Feminism: men and women are equal in worth and action and *should be treated the same*
Islam: men and women are equal in worth *but have different roles in society and are treated differently in every aspect*
This imo is the biggest difference.
hope u get what im saying
I don’t think we mean the same thing when we say feminism. Because being a Muslim I can say I am a femisnist and that only means I strongly believe women should stand up for their rights and for their place in society and I don’t see how that is contradicting to Islam. I understand what kind of « feminism » you are talking about when you say it doesn’t align with Islam, but what you are talking about is not feminism it’s just the deviation people nowadays have made in the name of feminism. Feminism itself though, the way that I understand and see it ( woman have rights and should speak up when injustice against them is being done)should be a battle that every woman stands for
Islam doesn't correlate with feminism since we have different obligations, rights depending on our gender. Men dont have the right to wear silk. Being for feminism (= equal rights) means wanting us to have the same rights and obligations meaning women and men should have the same obligations and rights meaning men should have the right to wear hijab, women should have the right to go make djihad leaving husband and kids, men should have the right to wear silk and gold necklace.
These obligations and rights I just quoted DEPEND they fully rely on our gender. Being a feminist is throwing all of this out (quick reminder these are ﷲ ta'ala 's orders.)
Being for women to have rights, stand for themselves, have an opinion isn't being feminist, it's being normal.
We're against women's oppression following the Quran and Sunnah. We want women to have the rights and the obligations they are supposed to have in OUR RELIGION not in their view of society. This isn't being a feminist, this is being normal and not being misogynistic.
if you find Ben Shapiro logical, you're truly out of your mind. Subhanallah, get help fr.
I'm sayinggg 😭
for real, how can she say that a zionist is logical i don't get it
How can you get into this conclusion? Like are we even watching the same movie?
I’m so happy to see that the majority of the comment section is open minded. I really expected everyone to agree with this creator. Don’t get me wrong she has great points on some of her videos, like the “learn to be bored” video. But when it comes topics that’s align themselves with conservatism, it ain’t for me chief. People are complex human beings, and our value should not be dictated and/or measured by religious views. It keeps us from moving forward. Just my personal opinion.
so how do we measure/dictate our value then?🤔 if you said by anything that's not religious, how are you right and how are they wrong? or vice versa?🤔
in the end, it'll be exactly that. our personal opinion. 🤷 which have zero value (ironically) for anybody else but ourselves 🤷
24:00 maybe economics pushed women into the workforce, but we shouldn't ignore the fact that women, even before then, were domestic laborers, unpaid and underappreciated, with no rights or financial freedom. This led to women thinking, 'domestic labor is not real work? Okay we are leaving it and doing the real work '
By entering the workforce, they were doing the same things but with a paycheck instead of ungrateful families .
Before then woman didn’t have a chance and its not only in America its all over the world even in muslim countries we are just recently allowed to attend universities and participate in the work culture. now that we have the choice we won’t tolerate under appropriation
I think the misunderstanding is thinking equality means ‘same’.
women working meant financial independence. so many men used to take advantage of women who were financially dependent on them. it is and was such a important step for women towards equality. Farah‘s talking about an ideal islamic society, subhanallah all these islamic countries, wealthy or not, have the wisdom of Islam in their hands and hearts, yet in reality womens status is so low. this is a fact. and then slander the wests approach to improve the situation of women? feminism is not black and white, it means different things to different people. Islamic countries do not execute Islam the way it really should be in regards to women. Muslim people don‘t value women the way they should be. Feminism, to me, points out this fact and is the drive towards change. It gets diluted to terminology. You can call it something else, but what I’m talking about is the gap between ‚philosophy‘ and ‚reality‘. Feminism is just a word that is politically loaded, however interestingly Islam has the exact same problem (from a westeners eye).
They still do even with us working.
2:28 in a previous episode of this podcast u stated that there is feminism in Islam but then u also say you are not a feminist because you're a muslim. As someone who knows about Islam, i understand what you mean but most people will view this as contradictory.
3:28 the core belief of feminism is "belief in and advocacy of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes". What you're against is the extreme feminists who advocate for equality for weird things like being topless. But that is not what people mean when they say they are feminists. The same way when you say you're muslim we don't all assume you mean that you are an extreme muslim like ISIS.
3:26 Funny thing is Islam also "means so many different things to so many people" that is why you have moderate muslims and extreme muslims but both identify as muslim.
4:24 this statement i dislike very much. Everyone has opinions even yourself. You have a channel dedicated to sharing your opinions and even a podcast called uncomfortable truths where you share the most opinionated videos. So my friend please do not brush aside a whole group of people for the same "sin" which you bear yourself
4:50 this point was hard to follow so I'm pretty sure your message here might have been miscontrued but from what i can understand this is a very dangerous view of life. Imagine someone said that they have no opinion on issues regarding the muslim community (e.g. active hate towards muslims by others)
15:07 I've commented before that you seem to see the world in extremes, like an all or nothing mentality. And here is another example of this. Most people are not "hard core" anything. You keep equating "hard core" with being right/following what they believe correctly when that is not necessarily the truth (i.e. a hard core feminist does not always align with the core values of feminism and a hard core Muslim does not mean they are following Islam correctly). Moderation is key in life when you practice anything extremely, you are not able to see anything outside your box.
17:32 see here is an example of your "hard core" mentality clouding your view of something. The children throwing the baby dolls does not mean it was saying that motherhood was bad. I have not watched this movie but even I can tell that the commentary here was that the little girls had enough of only playing mother they wanted to aspire to be more than that which Barbie gave them as Barbie, I believe, was the first company to provide female dolls which were not babies and were in professions such as doctor/teacher/etc. And what is wrong with that? Why would you want little girls to play as "child mothers"? I always found that concept weird even as a child
18:55 majority of the world's societies are patriarchal. The meaning of patriarchy from Google is:
1) "a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is reckoned through the male line."
2) "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it."
So that means that the most patriarchal societies are conservative societies such as islamic/Christian/etc. societies. So why do you hate that word when Islam advocates this and when you are not a feminist? You should love this word no? The people who should hate this word are the ones against patriarchy. Or do you hate the idea of people calling something what it is? You hate the ugly truth of what you stand for being blatantly shown to you via one single word? What is the core of your hate towards this word which you, from your beliefs and things you share in these videos, should be wearing as a badge?
19:05 a matriarchy is not a feminist eutopia. A feminist eutopia is equal rights for both sexes. This here is another example of only thinking in extremes. This is like saying the ISIS government is every Muslims dream. Why don't you do a simple Google research on what the core feminist ideology is? No, because it is easy to bash something you don't understand/want to understand right? Because it doesn't align with your islamic beliefs right? I understand that you are trying to justify your religious viewpoint and why it is the way it is but forcing the thing your religion is at odds with to be evil and extreme when it is not is not the right way to do it and, dare I say it, very untruthful of you the host of uncomfortable truths podcast
21:37 you could have tried to use actual arguments to say why you don't agree with men and women being equal in social/economical/etc. aspects of society but instead u bring up a dumb reason that doesn't even encapsulate feminism. Is ridiculing an ideology and refusing to truly understand it the hill you want to die on? Some anti-islam people do this where they bring up something irrelevant and nothing really to do with the religion and here you are doing the same to another ideology. Please be fair in your arguments
22:18 man this statement does not make you look good at all. A person should never believe their opinions are always facts because in this world we are here to learn. If every person believed they knew everything where would that leave the future generation? Also believing that everything that comes out of your mouth is the truth just further shows that a "hard core" mentality makes you disregard everything else even something as simple as equal right for all
23:07 women have always worked. Where there were poor families, there were poor women that were working. This misconception that prior to the 21st/20th century women never worked is bs. You think poor women had the luxury to not work? If you do then you are very grossly misled. The only thing that changed was that women were now allowed to work in different sectors like become doctors etc. This whole change in the career of the working women is a whole topic in itself so please do your research before you present your opinions as facts. Regardless, working is not a minus for women as they earn money for themselves, what is wrong with a person wanting to earn for themselves and be financially independent. Most issues for most people regardless of gender stem from being dependent on other people (i.e. people choosing to stay with abusive partners, people not having a say in decisions that will affect their lives, etc.)
24:02 not every woman wants to stay at home and "cuddle a baby" and not every man wants to work. I hate the concept of only seeing people as genders. Most humans in this world do not enjoy working, it is not something that only one gender feels and the other does not. No one, regardless of gender, chooses to work, every human being has to work to survive which is something we have been doing for centuries. Women have been working for centuries the "government" did not push women into the workforce lol. Please do research my friend because you sound very naive.
26:30 I think it is very weird for a child to play with an impregnated doll. You're forgetting how children play with dolls, children make story lines and have their dolls re-enact them. What storyline does a pregnant Barbie have? What are you telling the child here with this doll? That it is ok for them to get pregnant??!! I don't understand why you want a pregnant doll to still exist when a child can just play with a baby doll if you're so hung up on a child aspiring to be a mother (which to me is such a weird thing to want for a child)
26:46 isn't it funny that it takes 2 people to create a child but apparently only 1 of them is expected to raise them and is rewarded for it by God
27:11 ... Are you saying that women make tiny little humans alone? Have we forgotten that a sperm is needed to fertilize the egg? Also making tiny little humans is harder than being employee of the month and getting bonuses???!!! That's right, sex is harder than work guys 😂 anyway putting the jokes aside the thinking that raising children/having children is only a women's burden or duty is just sad. That's why many Muslims have not so wonderful relationships with their fathers and many Muslims mothers end up tired and depressed. Also this "feature" of being able to make a child is not such an amazing or profound thing for a human. It's like saying "wow I can shit/ wow I can breath" isn't that weird to say? Being able to reproduce is just another function of the human being. To say that the most mindless thing all animals and insects can do (having sex and creating babies) is the most amazing part of the human is just weird. Also, where does that leave infertile people? They are naturally unable to procreate so does that make them less amazing than their fertile counterparts? Why have we reduced all other efforts of the human race such as science, architecture, technology, etc. to nothing but a simple function of all beings including insects is the most profound? Also reducing work to nothing is a back handed slap to all conservative fathers.
28:06 that is an opinion, your opinion, which a lot of people do not share. Also, what about fatherhood? Is that not a "privilege" as well? They made the kid together no, so why is the father left out from this "privilege"?
28:09 so what you're essentially saying is that a woman is nothing but a womb and if the womb is not used (i.e. the woman does not have sex to make a baby) then the woman is left unfulfilled because she has no other purpose in life. That is so disgusting and I actually feel sorry for you if you think of yourself like this. Also where does that leave infertile women? Is their life just meaningless to you? If we lived by your ideals then the infertile woman is the same as a walking corpse who has nothing to give the world
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i agree
Bro is commenting on every minute
Also about your comment on 27th minute: tbh I do think raising a child is harder then doing work, I don't think she meant exclusively making one
i second this…
@@sophialyudova7647the 27th minute was talking about making tiny little humans not raising them. I see what you're getting at, if she had phrased it like that then I would agree with you somewhat but she did not. Instead she said that the efforts of the human race in science, technology, architecture or whatever other field of work is nothing but the simple "feature" which all animals including insects have is the most profound thing of the human being.
Also to further clarify, I actually don't think raising a child is harder than certain jobs like surgeons, firefighters who risk their lives, rocket scientists, etc. The fact that there are people out there who raise children and also work shows that raising a child is not the hardest thing in the world. Not everyone can become a surgeon/doctor/etc. but nearly everyone can become parents and raise a child successfully (I.e. they feed, cloth them, etc.). I am not diminishing the effort it takes to raise children but truly we cannot say that it is the hardest job in the world
Thank you ❤️
I dont think you understood the meaning of the movie. Theres a lot of points you mad that had nothing to do with the movie. The pregnant barbie got discontinued not bc Barbie hate motherhood it’s actually the opposite. People found it as weird and thats what the movie wanted to highlight. That you have a choice to be anything and thats also being a mother.
this is pure bs
The thing is that when you're Muslim you have the priviledge of not needing feminism. Islam is a protection for women, when it's missing it's another story...
@CherryDollish it is not the hijab only
If the men a round you fear Allah they will never
Hurt you, And thanking care of a woman is a way to heaven
And as a Muslim women can demand what rights Allah
has given you
Like education
Work
Having your own money
And so many more
Some will say that they are simple human rights
But most women don’t get them if the don’t fight for it 💔
@CherryDollishit makes it harder for them. That’s protection. Some predators have admitted they target women with less clothes, as it’s easier for them to be harmed. We wear it for God only, not protection or what not. Allah has ordered it for us and that’s all we need as justification to wear it.
I strongly disagree with you.
so interesting seeing how people took this movie. all i took from it was the love i had for my mother and the mothers before her. and i’m perfectly fine with that conclusion
An interesting video, but i was disappointed because there are moments when you're about to touch onto something interesting, only to then conclude with a shallow analysis of your own. But one thing that probably needs mentioning, is that this is also a movie produced by Mattel - it's supposed to be a movie "for everyone", and it's a shame that so many reviews are decrying Barbie for being "feminist propaganda' when its engagement with feminist history and theory is pretty much non-existent. I disagree that feminism is an 'ideology' in the sense that at a very basic, historical level, feminism is an intellectual movement that pertains to social relations, and the ways in which it has affected women spatially and temporally. You can argue that it's not compatible with Islam because the Islamic world view is imbued with its own theory of social relations (again, contested) but I think it's a false premise to suggest that the two are at odds, when religion and feminism describe different sets of relationships, the latter also being a relationship to capital.
With that in mind, perhaps the issue with Barbie is that it's not really feminist enough to be radical. Understanding it through Greta Gerwig's previous movies, which are really explorations of mother-daughter dynamics, and the disappointment mothers have, projected onto their daughters, Barbie might be a way of looking at how these plastic dolls, that have been instrumental to myth-making Americana, are also totems in which this generational disappointment have been ascribed onto, and monetised, and that American capitalism, with all its economic demands informing social relations, is dependent on this generational guilt in order to sustain itself. Barbie is necessary for America to exist, and vice-versa. Greta recognises this, subtley at least, and is perhaps suggesting that if girls can't escape the system their in, they can at least work on the human relationships necessary to survive within it.
Great comment! Agreed!!
I never comment but this is IT!
And why isn’t this analysis of yours shallow?
Why should we listen to what this Greta person has to say? Does she hold the objective truth about reality?
And are you serious? Barbie is necessary for America to exist and vice-versa? Necessary? You may call Farah’s analysis shallow but yours is certainly delusional
@@salehachowdhury3715 Lol, if you are looking for 'objective truth' in contemporary art, then you aren't going to find anything in art. You dont have to listen to Greta Gerwig, or any artist. But if someone is going to engage in a critique of their art, on a public platform that invites engagement, then they should also expect their analysis to be commented on and critiqued. I engaged with Farah because in the past she's been thoughtful and astute about pop culture, so i was disappointed that some of the very obvious commentary made in Barbie was largely being dismissed as feminist propagdanda - when the film barely engages with feminism at all. A point that anyone who actually can analyse films beyond their marketing value should have been able to determine.
@@Aeneid182 I am not trying to find objective truth in Barbie and contemporary art. It is OP that is trying to do so unknowingly when OP states ‘Barbie is necessary for America to exist’. I am critiquing OP’s understanding of Barbie and Greta not Greta or Barbie. My main contention is not with barbie but feminism. One will not find objective truth in FEMINISM. There is therefore no point to prop yourself to be a feminist because you may believe subjective truths that are false. This is a topic of discussion I am engaging in because feminism is being debated by the audience whether or not Barbie engages with feminism.
The feminist propaganda that Barbie engages with is its depiction of patriarchy. Also this is not so much to do with the Barbie movie but rather the people who were doing the casting. There was subtle propaganda in promoting trans women in biological women spaces. But that was if you did some external research.
That uncomfortable feeling is so interesting. You should explore it
I'll just start by saying that I'm an art person. And I love the way that art is not about being right or wrong but a reflection. You just reflected. You don't seem to come from a world where women have perspectives and a respected opinion.
Barbie was a good movie with a good point that women shouldn't be forced into motherhood/being wives, but instead do whatever they want. Especially even nowadays where actual children as old as 9 are being sold to old men, not having any chances of gaining education and/or pursuing what they want.
Aw ur very smooth brained
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Im stealing this🤣
Can you please explain how feminism contradicts Islam? I’m a young Muslim girl and I haven’t heard this before so I wanted to learn more.
There r two youtube channels called Ali Dawah & Mohammed Hijab. They make dawah and have many videos dissecting feminism and why it is not compatible with Islam.
Pease do not losten to Ali Dawah and Mohammad Hijab, they seem to have a very radical view on islam and they seem to look at women as objects.. But they might be correct in islam, as woman is worth half of a man. 🤮
Definitely do not recommend Ali dawah and Mohammed hijab. Listen to Islamic scholars instead
feminism is fundamentally against islam because it advocates for equality between men and women while in Islam, men and women don't have the same duties and rights (men can have up to 4 wives and they have to provide for them, the division of inheritance is not the same, the testimony of a men before the judge equals to the testimony of 2 women etc). of course, our good deeds will be rewarded equally but the islamic legislation tends to not treat women and men equally but rather with equity wich is against feminist view
islam gave us a lot of rights too and I really think u should inform urself so you could know when someone wrongs you because sadly they are not always respected
we have to be 100% aware that Allah knows what's best for humanity so the fact that women and men don't always have the same rights is for the better and that Allah's legislation is above all the human created ideologies
I'm not a scholar and my english is very bad so my sister I really advise u (and myself) to go study this topic from scholars who explain the qur'an and the Sounnah and you'll see how against our beliefs feminism actually is
may Allah guide us all and have a good day
Well you see, feminism encourages you to value your rights and happiness and that could get in the way when you start looking for a husband. You will be too difficult. For example some men will want to control all your movements and hit you if you disobey. But because of the influence of feminism you might refuse that. This is why feminism is terribly dangerous.
it's sad to think that women having fun and being allowed to do whatever the fuck they want without men telling them to shut it is seen as "propaganda". well, I suppose this channel is not for me after all. hold well farah
It's sad to think how delusions have taken a hold on people such as you
feminism is a lie it does not truly give you your rights it just makes you think you have them while being used, a delusion to "feel free" when you're actually imprisoned
you clearly didn't watch the movie or this video. just because you don't see the propaganda behind it doesn't mean others aren't affected by it. learn to see things from other perspectives, oh so-called open-minded people.
same. tbh i love her previous podcast episodes. i'm a muslim through and through and even quit listening to music bc what she said resonated with me so much. but yeah i do disagree on a lot of her opinions and i do think that she misses the marks on a lot of things.
It's so insane to me that people who subscribe to a subjective lens on morality have the audacity to go and tell other people what they think is right or wrong. You cant even tell me with conviction that you exist, let alone that there is such a thing as morality or what fun is. please go sort out the objectivity of your existence before you start talking about anything.
@@biobaza9926 @emperor8716
I objectively watched her explain lots of her decisions about her life as a muslim and I understood and even tried to practice some stuff for my mental health, but when I see anybody saying that feminism in Barbie is blatant propaganda is just sad. What next? Saying that sex education makes kids sexual earlier? Getting to know that you're allowed to be whoever you want to be is very important, and in the movie it is clearly stated that whether you want to be a femme, traditional women or a masc woman who will never have children and work at the factory because that's what she's comfortable with - it's all okay. Why? Because you have a choice. While we are not equal in nature, obviously, we should always be equal in rights and opportunities. There is no debate. That's what's fair and moral. What path you choose to achieve your goal, however, depends on you. And some assholes might say "well a female won't be as good at physical job as a guy", as if all physical jobs depended on strength, really. Ffs, how are some people still in medieval times with their minds?
I'm really not upset with you, and I believe you are super intelligent and produce incredible content. However, I think the way you approach feminism in your videos, by being against it, undermines the efforts of all the strong women who have fought for intelligent young women like you to be recognized and have a voice.
idk about SUPER intelligent, anybody who pushes such a dogmatic religious agenda lacks critical thinking skills or any thinking skills at all. I do agree she's well articulated though.
i think you’re a very wise person but i feel the need to point out the hypocrisy in your view on feminism and equality. it’s important to recognize what feminism stands for, and that’s equality. without feminism you wouldn’t be able to drive a car, participate in politics (voting), etc. so if you’re shitting on feminism while also benefiting from the rights that it gave you then i think you need to reconsider. if you’re against feminism then don’t drive your car. i will admit that some sects of modern feminism has evolved to be ridiculous, but in your own words, it can have many different definitions. and even still after all the definitions and beliefs out there you still choose to deny all of them
the thing is, in islam our Lord has given us all our rights and privileges centuries before feminism 😭 although feminism helps with modern stuff and our roles in society, we've been given all our rights and dont really need to be looking for alternatives
I liked the movie. It had its dumb moments...alot of it but overall it was good. For me, it displayed the beauty of motherhood and living life as it is. I cried my heart out at the last scene ngl. About the old lady sitting in the bench next to Barbie, it was kinda emotional cause I thought they brought Barbara. so like barbie was telling her future self that she's beautiful even if she's a wrinkled old lady. There was alot of hidden message that you can conclude to, I try not to watch or read reviews before watching any movie so I can come to a conclusion on my own.
Farah, I like you and like watching your videos. I am a Muslim too, and I don't call myself a feminist. I support the idea that women and men should be equal in aspects of life, having equal rights etc. I don't think that men and women are the same, there are many big differences about our natures. So I agree with you on this one. What I mean by equality is having equal rights and opportunities in work field etc. you know like human rights. But I don't like to call myself a feminist because of other things it can be associated with.
The thing that I don't agree with you is that you talk like when people say they are a feminist you instantly think of extremist feminists. A person being a feminist doesn't necessarily mean they don't value motherhood or they see men and women the same. You are very biased about this whole thing, and it was exhausting to watch this video because you obviously came to conclusions mostly based on your feelings and your bias. And you act like you know the best. I really like your opinions on things generally. But you shouldn't act like you know the best, you never know when you're gonna learn something.
I haven't watched the movie and I am not planning to watch it but based on the comments I've seen, even I can say that this movie wasn't really devaluing motherhood. I think you interpret the scenes in a wrong way because of all of that opinions you had before watching the movie. That's why you were so confused when you finished watching the movie.
I want to be a mother one day too and I think motherhood is a very honored thing, and I also want to work without my work being my priority. But opposite of this is fine too, there are many people in this world and everybody has a life of their own.
May Allah be with you❤
bro omg i havent watched the movie either and maybe wont get to in the future either but i feel like its bringing a lot of black and white biased thinking to the surface.. chances are i might watch the movie and not like it but not because i instantly assume its propaganda. neither am i someone who outwardly calls myself a feminist simply because ik the movement has already been appropriated by an islamophobic liberalism/U.S. imperialism so i can anticipate preconceived notions and ik where im not welcome. that doesnt mean the offshoots of the ideology itself isnt capable of producing positive results and productive conversations now as it has in the past. or that no part of the feminist spectrum is incompatible with islam. i was looking for a response like this.. you covered all the important points - like it really is that simple LMAO
beautiful hope she opens her mind
Hi saying that you are not a feminist is saying you don’t want to have the right to vote, to have your bank account and to get the ability to work :) just saying
I am sorry but saying that a human being should have less rights bc of their gender is not ok nor a vibe nor cool in Islam you give a bad name to our religion that way
Oh yeah and you would not be able to talk rn unless your husband gives u the permission ❤
Go back under your bridge troll
@ninaxxx9707 No because Islam gave these rights to women long ago, way before the occidental world. So it's fair to say you are Muslim and not feminist
@@mia6044😅 بس من قال ان النساء ف السعوديه اخذت كل شيء مره وحده التعليم جا بعد سنين من توحيد المملكه لنساء وحتى السواقه حتى ان تطلعين لك بطاقه احوال كان ف عوائل مو عاجبهم الوضع ان بناتهم بيحطون صورهم بابطاقه حتى لبس العبايه او الحجاب والنقاب في كثير اول يلبسونها فقط عشان المجتمع خاصتا موضوع النقاب ولو احد اول شاف فرح كذا طالعه بيقطون عليها كلام وحتى الحين تلاقين في ناس يشوفنها غير محترمه لانها فقط مححجبه الرجال طبعا 😅
The movie is a joke and is intentionally dumb. I don’t know why everyone’s making a big deal. I mean it’s a movies called Barbie about the pink Barbie world! Don’t take it seriously and you’ll enjoy it.
Yes until it make u think that every propaganda about the lgbtq and whatever bad messages it gave indirectly is “uncalled for” and you don’t have to care about it so it just becomes something normal to you whereas you should not! Kids should not watch stuff like those because it unconsciously makes them fit into those holes the movie directors want them to , and you may not realize it but it does effect you and your deen… sorry it came out harsh well just read it in a calm tone I promise it wasn’t meant to be 😭
What a lovely day to unsubscribe.
idk but the way you delivered this is not itttt
I watched so many commentaries about the movie (mostly the ones that hated it passionately) and then I got curious so I watched it myself. Like you, I was confused at first too because I saw the way looot of people hated it and the meanings behind all gestures and bunch of subliminals that people were talking about. It's been a week since and when I think about it now for me it wasn't that bad at all. I'm a very rational person so I find some of the movies dumb in various ways. I'm kind of person that says that doesn't make sense at all during movies. But like, we watch movies with 'dumb' plots all the time. I've never seen people this passionately hate something and I don't even feel like they're criticizing the movie anymore. They're just talking about ideologies that weren't even in the movie. There are other movies that went far than this about what they're talking about but they're fixated on hating barbie. I don't know it's not that deep people should chill. It is an okay movie I think except the musical parts. I hate musicals.
The twilight fan base comes to mind reading this. There are some who love the movies and others who respectfully love to jokingly hate on the movies - with love.
It’s an odd space but it sure is a lot of fun.
Do you think Barbie is worth seeing?
@@LunaKushG I get what you mean I actually love watching bad movies and laugh about them 😂 I think it's not logical to get offensive about a movie because it's basically a story and a rough opinion about which perspective the people who made it looks at the storyline. Same as books, I've read lot of offensive books, I didn't enjoy some of them but they gave me a perspective. It's all about how your perspective is in life, human mind is amazing you can connect the most unconnected dots and give them a meaning of yourself. Or just chill and enjoy things when people are crazy deep thinking about the same things. Soo I was crocheting when I was watching the movie so it was definitely enjoyable for me and margot robbie is definitely beautiful to look at so it's your choice to watch it or not It's not that deep :)
Just immediately after saying that you are not a feminist due to the lack of compatibility between feminism and Islam, you throw a sexual hint as if this what solves your problem with (compatibility). I admire your view in general but this is extremely disgusting.
disgusting?💀 it was truly a 5th level joke. and a double meaning as well. the points was still that its two different worlds
I just have a few thoughts- so besides the fact that I completely disagree with you (which is fine of course we all have different opinions) I felt like a lot of people have this idea that barbieland was a "feminists utopia" even though the whole point of barbieland was showcasing a world where barbie lived , as in the doll, and of course barbie would be more important then ken in that scenario because barbie was a doll line directed toward young girls, and the whole point of showing barbieland the way it was shown was to make barbie's fears and confusion when she goes to the real world more apparent , the fact that some people are outward made at barbieland is so stupid because all it did was showcase only a snippet of what the real world is like for women by reversing the roles, and in barbieland ken's weren't objectified or treated as lesser, they just weren't seen as important- which barbie apologized for and the end where they are like "maybe you can have some authority" is solely for comedic purposes because that's what happened to women in real world ! its so obvious that my 14 year old sister could understand it and its just weird to me that grown ups like you and ben shapiro (who I wouldn't even consider relevant because all his takes make like zero sense) don't understand those simple concepts. Also as a muslim what you said about Islam not coordinating with what feminism, it just seems to me that our ideas of feminism have been so distorted over the years that we think its something "hostile" or "against" Islam when all it means is "equality" which also doesn't mean that men and women are the same but rather says that even if they have their differences they deserve to be treated equal, which I know is a very important message in Islam.
“You’re in Mars and they’re in…Uranus…😶” I gackaled! 😭😭
Isn’t the opening scene of Barbie just a reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey..?
your making Islam look bad subhanallah
LMAO
It's sad when you see Muslims in western countries support concepts like feminism, praising barbie, i hope they would work on extending their knowledge on islam and really understand it and how beautiful it is, and know that the devil wants to destroy "fitrah" like family, loving babies, marriage, dignity, haya, ext and ofc he's doing it with his alliance
This is brilliant. At first the title triggered me but within 10 minutes of the video you helped gain a unique perspective about the definition of 'feminist' by not generalising it's meaning in the first place. I also love how you correlated various moments from the movie to real life phenomena, something most of the audience could've overseen.
I haven’t watched it, but from what your saying it’s basically against feminism. That a “matriarchy” society isn’t really any better. That grass isnt greener on the other side.
Farah just discovered you but can I say you’re the most relatable funniest coolest down to earth girl! I love it! ❤ youd make an amazing friend. Glad you’re on CZcams.
I love that you honour motherhood. One is lucky to find a partner who honours the importance of the mothers role. I always feel like my dad and brothers (possibly because they are male) dont realise how much the four of us owe to our mother
Feminism is more womens' choice and rights than beating men and trying to show that we are equal. We are not. But we have right to be equally payed for same perfomence at work as men. We have a choise to choose to work or to stay at home. Feminism doesn't forse women to work or wear certain things or whatever. Like u wanna be mama and raise children, we r fine; or u wanna go work and it makes u happy, we r fine. First religion that promoted femenism was Islam. Before women werent considered as a human being, rather as a slavery or animals, after Islam, girls could choose a man to marry or reject anybody for marriage, like before it wasnt considered at all, who payed the most would marry that woman and all those terrible thing like you have to serve the men otherwise they beat you to death and even the women didnt have rights to live. If men didnt like smth they could kill or bury alive. Islam came and everything changed, this is why Islam world was much more powerful in the beginning than Wester countries(u can read it in history books). And only few centuries later after Islam came, women in Western countries were officially declared as an actual human being just like men. Well, now in western culture feminism is overdrawn and dramatized, they adding whatever they want to femenism or what they think it is to humiliate Islam rules which are the perfection by the way and take control( this is why im not femenist for 100%, but i am and i can't tell for how extend coz they r changing the term "femenism" everyday, adding and changing and I am a muslim woman who constantly practices Islam) When i was younger, i would think only men can give me a life i want, only a man gives food and money and its all on him and if you piss him off so thats over, you dont have anything to survive, he doesn't give money when you want or ask or need coz not every men is same nice and mega provider, you have to agree, you have to serve even though u dont want u have to do that and this and everything like a slave otherwise you cant survive. And marry the richest option as soon as you turned 16 coz you are suffering from guilt that your father is paying for you and you just can't even dare ask smth u really crave coz again not every fathers are the same as fine and nice. Well, life forced me to be a femenist, to work and have money and power and choise and freedom and opinion on my own rather then be a slave and do whatever they wish. After I could say NO to abuse and insults. Well, in my culture or society if you arent a femenist, u r less likely to marry carrying, loving, providing man who respects women, if not, well, you get knocked out until you bleed by your own husband or get devorced just because you accidentally burned your husband's shirt while ironing( those are real stories). Well, being a femenist in certain level is good and healthy. And when it comes to movie, people who run this world, people of power who we know and dont know(mostly Jewish men), just manipulate and control the folks by those kind of movies and songs. And try to think the vice-versa, like rewatch the movie and think Barbies as men and Kens as women, and that guy who isnt Ken( i forgot his name) as a gay or lesbian, people who run the Barbieland as those people of power, then you would see some familiar pictures and scenarios. Well, I cant just type everything here, coz there numerous hiden messages and meanings from Barbie's breakfast and feet to the CREATOR of the Barbie. Think about it, the movie which is that simple and dump from the first glance cant be that highly promoted. There is smth about it
i dont care will anyone read this message or not, this comment is firstly for me, for me that became strong and powerful woman after knowing my worth as a woman and respecting my gender.
girl bye
yo sis you shoudl read this comment section again you might change your mind
“When ur in Mars and there in Uranus”😂
For me I honestly got the idea just after watching it bc I kept myself from seeing any commentaries before it so for me it was a positive experience I saw them honoring every role a women could have
So yeah
Be aware to not use insult like « wtf »
well i guess i'm not a muslim then, since i believe in feminism
Shes just saying that feminism is a movement for womens rights, but in islam you already have rights, why would u fight for something you already have,,,
@@gumballingrealistically not all women get those rights so you fight for that...
Woman and Men are Equal to Allah in Islam. But Allah has depicted different roles for them. That’s what she means guys. 🤷🏻♀️
24:38 the thing she said about women being pushed into this whole workforce thing and I kinda agree to that BUT also let's say hypothetically i time travel to 90s where I am given a choice i think i would still choose working and earning my own money over just cuddling and taking care of my kid because i personally think that financial independence is very important, i wanna be able to live for myself by paying for myself rather than asking for money from someone else and having to explain what I want to do with it , but ik that she is not generalizing and she is just stating her opinion and so am i
I think it’s that women don’t have a choice now. You can’t be a stay at home mum UNLESS you’re rich. The common person isn’t rich. This forces work onto the women that do want to stay at home, which is sad. That’s what she meant about them being keyword: PUSHED into the workforce. It wasn’t a choice, it was forced. Many mothers can’t stay with their little kids because they’re going to lose the house, because they won’t have food, and that’s dangerous to the child’s future.
The beginning scene is just a quote on the movie “2001: a space odissey”
hi farah! i would love to know why you think feminism, by definition of women being equal to men, is so unaligned to islam
feminism says women are equal to men in the sense that we can do all the things men can. that's just not true, it's biologically not possible.
Islam says women are equal to men in status, both genders have their own respectable roles to play that the other cannot perform, and thus we cannot be without each other.
The definition of feminism is not quite that simple.
Feminism is an ideology that emerged from a Western historical context. This is important because:
1) Feminism developed alongside/as a result of a monumental intellectual shift in the West: The Enlightenment. Enlightenment thinkers **rejected God and religion** and elevated reason above all else, making **human beings** the arbiter of all affairs and the liberation of the individual their primary goal. Feminism applied this thesis to the circumstances of women, promoting the "liberation of women" from restrictions in all forms, i.e. religion, marriage, politics, economics, and even biology (see: Simone de Beauvoir).
While this is a little simplified, it's not difficult to see how feminism's premises alone contradict even the most basic of Islamic principles.
2) Feminism addresses problems within and creates solutions for the Western historic-cultural context specifically. The ideology, for other societies, thereby becomes unnecessary and/or meaningless. For example, while English women could not keep their own property or money until 1882, Islam guaranteed women this right during the Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) lifetime (in the 7th century).
3) Also, Islam has no need to "fight for equality" in the same way that feminists do. You'll find that Islam has always regarded men and women fundamentally and necessarily equal on the spiritual level, which every Muslim knows is the most important aspect of human existence. If you reject God, or if your "religion" is manmade, then everything is reduced to the material, which can *NEVER* be equal. That's why I think Islam is superior and without need of any "add-ons." A man/woman-made ideology such as feminism could never achieve the objectivity, consistency, justice, wisdom, and/or success when compared with the very dictates of God Himself.
this is what bothered me too
If you make a video about your opinion on something you should explain it so other people can understand why you have this opinion. All you did was using your religious belief as an explanation for everything which is why most people who aren’t a follower of Islam can’t understand your point of view. Watching this is seriously a waste of time because all you do is hating on the movie (I thought the Islam is against hating??!) This had your Religion looking real bad not gonna lie. Don’t let the ideology you are following stop your individual thinking process.
21:38 Sexualising the female breasts🤦♀️ the female breast is the gender characteristic of women, beard is the one for men. Who has to hide their gender characteristic? Women. That is what the Islam is doing in a lot of countries: Sexualising the female anatomy. Women aren’t even allowed to have a face, to have a body because it gets sexualised by men who never get to see the body of women besides in a sexual context.
I’m not a hardcore feminist and I understood a few points of your ”Life without music“ video but this video is not it…
You already said it men sexualize women for showing skin isn’t that enough for one to want to cover up. I’m not saying that it’s not wrong that men sexualize women because it definitely is wrong, what I mean is that we can’t control someone else’s mind so the best we can do is protect ourselves from them by covering up. (But honestly that’s not enough either but it’s the best we can do)
That’s not what Islam is doing it’s the cultures in those countries making Islam seem bad. Both men and women have to modest and also lower their gaze, obviously we have to be modest in different ways because our bodies are different too.
@@onlywonlove I know what you mean but I don’t want to cover up because of some people being disgusting. Covering up my body won’t change men’s view on women’s body for the good because you make something special out of something that is super normal. It is straight up biology. We as women shouldn’t feel the need to hide our own biology out of fear. That makes the women invisible in our society even though we are half of the world population.
And also from my personal experience almost only muslim people were looking at me with a sexualised gaze when I was wearing a skirt in summer (I know that there are wonderful Muslims I’m not talking about all but I’m also a minor so I feel deep disgust by sexualisation of girls my age) Of course just covering my body up would be easier but I won’t do that because I want to make it easier for the women in the future and want to make at least a small positive change for them:) I also wonder why men are the ones that are able to wear less without getting sexualised by women in summer in muslim countries. Probably because women are getting told to cover up (as long as they are not a hooker that is meant to please a man)
Again I know that there are wonderful Muslims but I didn’t make the best experiences with the one’s that I met. This obviously doesn’t mean that every Muslim is like them I’m just talking about my experiences:)
Yea because women dont sexualise men for their beards dumbass 😭
i’ve been talking about this video with my brother for hours. I am very curious as to what specific rights women should not have that men have, in your opinion as a muslim. a deeper dive to your perspective would be very interesting to me
I would even love to have some sort of conversation! Theres lots of elements of what u said I wish I could discuss or hear from you!
I doubt that she would. She would have to acknowledge that women who fought for our rights are the reason she can have a podcast on CZcams. I far prefer Muslim feminists to ultra-conservative Muslims who blame women for everything.
Barbie was great! If you take away the controversy, it can take you back to the actual toy that we enjoyed without thinking about the politics behind it. I saw it with a man who said it was interesting to see some women's perspectives.
I respect ur review but I think u should research feminism more and understand its purpose. Barbie for me was more of healing my feminine self and how we don’t appreciate it enough.
I dont think being a muslim and being feminist are mutually exclusive. You can be pro equality in society, but still not chose that life for yourself. Just like being pro democracy also means being pro those who have completely different views than you. But thats my opinion.
nah bye
Sounds like you're ignorant about feminism--and almost misogynistic saying feminists are "too opinionated" be so fr.
I don't think Barbie was a good interpretation of feminism either imo
يعني في مسلمين اول يقولو سواقه المراءه حرام وتجيب العقم😅وشوفي من الحين يسوق وعنده سياره انتي وطبعا لاننسى ان في ذكور لسى بهذي العقليه ان البنت ماتسوق وعيب😅.
i read the sidenote in you description and now I am fully hydrated 😊😂
love the podcast but the way u talk abt feminism, and feminists in general, conveys clearly the untrue, right wing propaganda-like image u have of it lolol. it's just generalization atp because there's so many subcategories of feminism - some perfectly aligning with our islamic beliefs.
the way i see ur opinions on it is that you think that it's vulgar, promoting obscenity altogether (yk the whole freeing the nipple bs and everything) which i get completely. but women need a voice in this day and age especially. islam is perfect and will never be changed.
women and men are different and Allah has ordained specific rights upon them both Alhamdulillah, no arguing on that. feminism comes into play especially for women who are oppressed by religious folk - one simply just can't believe that muslims that despise women will let them know of their islamic due rights lol. feminism takes into account women of all creeds, casts and colours - it's not monochrome at all.
I think you might agree with more feminist standpoints than you realise. Feminism is not against motherhood or forcing women to work. Feminism is about giving women a choice. To have the same freedom of choice as men have. Without having to become a man. The world as it is know is designed by and for men. Feminism is about making room for the woman as well. It´s about having the freedom to live your life just like you want to (without harming others). To have the choice to be a sex worker or a nun. To wear a hijab or to walk around in bikini. And yes, also to empower mothers and raising a new generation that is kinder and more emotional equipped. Feminism is also for men. Because patriarchy harms men aswell. Feminism encourages men to create more space for their emotions, to embrace their more feminine traits. And off course feminism is also about creating more space in society for LGBTQIA+ people, for minority groups, POC´s and everyone who´s being left behind by the current system. We just want people to live their best life, no matter your religion or background. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
A woman has the same opportunity a man does today. Tell me one thing a man can do that a women can’t.
@@eddiekane2639 That´s a very broad question. There a lots of places in the world where women don´t have the same oppurtinties as men. Maybe you have heard of the current situation in Afghanistan and Iran?
@@iriskemper7989 I was mainly talking about America. What’s happening in Afghanistan and Iran is due to culture and not the religion.
I disagree with you, and if hate feminism as a Muslim, of course you will hate Barbie, it is obvious. By the way I know a lot of Muslims people and they are still feminists. best regard.
You leave in the Usa I guess. Travel to middle east...
thank you for making this video and opening discussion about this :) I find it all really interesting...and I apologize in advance for the lengthy response ahead, hahah.
It's especially interesting seeing how people's views differ on this movie, particularly between those who do know some of the background context and those who don't...although now I'm having trouble deciding whether knowing the origin of some of the characters/scenes is important to really understanding the movie. For example, the first scene is a reference to the first scene in an old movie called 2001: A Space Odyssey. It's an incredibly famous scene in the cinematic world, and I think, if I'm not mistaken, it generally represents the coming of a new age (definitely more to it if you look it up). Which is pretty much what it also represented in the Barbie movie, but I do believe many deeper interpretations can be made about it that are also valid, of course. I just think it gives clarity to know the origin of the scene.
Another little piece of context is that Ruth is the real name of the woman who created Barbie, and so I felt that her "superior" aura in the movie was more alluding to her truly knowing Barbie on an entirely different level than everyone else. It helps us actually delve deeper into what Barbie herself is going through...it helps us see that she's changing, and she has to go deep into her roots to do it...which is bound to be uncomfortable. Anyways, Ruth created her, and so she was able to ground her, to calm her down, and to pull out Barbie's true desire. This brings us to Barbie's answer: to be a real human being. Now, why would a plastic doll want to become real? Of all things, a real human being, with a lifespan, struggles, medical and mental problems...just, why??
In the beginning, Barbie never wondered about this...she never had to wonder about it. She never had to struggle, and therefore never learned the value in achieving personal growth. But by the end...that is what she truly wanted. She wanted to keep growing as a person and learning about the world. She wanted to keep struggling, keep hurting, keep loving and making memories, good and bad. Because she learned the value in it. She learned that there's beauty in it. There is beauty in being a human being, in developing cellulite, wrinkles, and scars. It's a priceless thing. There's an unforgettable beauty in the growing pains of life.
Anyways...that's what truly resonated with me when I watched the movie. I don't focus much on feminist ideas and whatnot. I just like to focus on things that resonate with me...dissect why they did...and that way, I learn more about myself and the world. And it's beautiful.
I wonder what feminism is to you. Because practically all the points that you mentioned is feminism to me.
no, we're not that biologically different lmao. a woman being in the workforce isn't going to destroy your world farah. yes, yes there will be the next generation. you're stretching facts to come to your conclusion that was made 1400 years ago by mysoginist men
im a male
Not many men think like you. You seem cool is there anything I can follow you on?😅
@@ilikecatsbutimallergictoth1856 wow thanks. I'm going to make a youtube channel soon!! :) drop your ig so I can contact u
I kinda agree with but not fully. I agree that it is important to think about the movie deeply after you watched it. I went to the movies with my sister to watch it. Before I went I saw many people saying that the movie is full with feminist propaganda. And that is somewhat true but I think many people don’t really get the plot of the movie. I imprete understood it like this: first there is the barbie world where women have the say. In the “real world” man have the say. And in the end they realise, that they need man and women to work together to create a better society.
And as a muslim I don’t fully agree with the movie but I think that the essence of the movie is true. Man and women shouldn’t fight with one another or with each other but they should use their advantages to work together.
this is my third comment I know- but I am commenting as I watch the video (because I can) so you said "patriarchy" really weirdly ?? like it doesn't exist? all your takes make no sense if thats what you believe cause thats just against literal real world facts... a patriarchal society is literally one that uplifts men at the expense of women and YES that is our real world and if you deny that it would be denying literal facts and statistics that are calculated but okay. Also you keep mentioning "feminist propaganda" but never once mention what it means to you- or what you mean by that and besides you already went into the movie thinking it was going to be "feminist propaganda" and by listening to people like ben shapiro? you seriously think you would have a valid opinion and comment on the movie after that?
Our society doesn't uplift men at the expense of women, please show me facts that indicate this. But i do have to admit that men do benefit to a certain extent. But it's less to do with putting women down but more that a man who's competent is more reliable no pregnancy, no period, no mood swing, etc. Men are more competitive, hard working, etc. Which is all based on facts and statistics. Not saying women can't be just as good, it's just more rare.
its does and always has. My only guess is that you aren't a women. Because as someone from the middle east, even my own family likes my brother more than me and my sisters and gives him more than they will ever give us. So yes its real@@s0ne01
and no men are not more "competitive" show me those statistics if they exist- but men tend to choose more competitive fields and thats different. Don't tell me you don't notice how women dominated jobs have a lower avg salary then men dominated jobs? i.e teaching, nursing , social workers etc even when those are more useful jobs in the industry. Also If what you said about being reliable is true then jobs would only refuse married women right? cause they are more likely to get pregnant ? also why do you think biological differences SHOULD effect someone getting hired ?? because thats also discriminating and completely based on a broad generalization of ALL women , so what makes you think thats right ? also if that is the case then you just proved my point ! the world relies on men because they stereotypically believe that MEN are more competitive simply because they are men- and more "hard working" etc That is definition of a patriarchal society. One that benefits men ! A proper society would benefit all genders unexclusively regardless stereotypes @@s0ne01
@user-uf3ex2xq3z men are just better in the workforce(overall/on average). But I do believe a meritocracy would be better. I don't know what yall feminist be talking about when you say men have it easier. No guy I've met has benefited from this so-called patriarchy.
you are a guy right ? that answers everything else you just said !@@s0ne01
I think in the beginning when the kids were smashing the baby dolls i dont think they did that to bash motherhood i think it was about how motherhood was kinda getting forced onto the girls or like the baby dolls were the only option for girls to play with..and then introducing barbie was like more of a here are more options if you’re bored of that or wanna try something new i guess in addition to their baby dolls