Andrew Huberman on Dopamine Levels in People with ADHD
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- What’s going on with Dopamine Levels in the Brain of People with ADHD? And how does that relate to their ability to focus and pay attention? #AndrewHubermanADHD #ADHD #Dopamine
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Not diagnosed but entire weekends go by just staring at my phone. I get as far as my first cup of coffee and sit on couch to check news on phones and that's it. Stuck in a procrastination loop with a weird guilty feeling for the whole weekend.
i get this. I have found that awareness is the first step and then changing my environment helps a ton. I notice if i get into bed with my phone, im on reels for hours. if i go on youtube at the dinner table, i am here for hours. so now i try and minimize these combos as much as possible. so, dont bring your phone to the couch
😎 Dude....I know the feeling 😂
Jesus is your only hope!
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I literally go on dopamine hunts - it's not healthy. Shopping, sex, alcohol, cannabis, attention by annoying people, stimulus with intellectual arguments or challenges. Normal becomes excruciatingly boring and so painful. My brain works faster than other people's and flits quickly between topics and its frustratingif people are slow. I'm clever but always looking for stimulation. The life of an adult woman with adhd lol 😂 Medidation helps and high dosage CPD seems to help.
Seems to be a pretty common situation, I don't know a person who doesn't spend most of their waking life on dopamine hunts
When reading this I thought that you were a young man in his teens( as most adhd suffering from that) but no you're the opposire of that. Interesting to see that the dopamine issue transcends genders and age( there is this preconceived notion that dopamine issues are a young man's problem)
You know where I'm coming from when I say (out of the blue, not knowing you, just responding to perceived similarities) It would be a dream to spend a week or two with you.
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What’s funny is that ADHD can also have many of the same characteristics as unhealed childhood trauma as well. It can be hard to tell them apart.
Adult stress induced ADHD. At least I know by asking around that 3 other people in my street have ADHD up to a certain level. They take concerta. (Amphétamines- from pharmacological family of "speed/meth"..(I guess that unhealed childhood trauma can produce lasting bio-chemical changes, and for people with more autistic traits: selective mutism
Was reading “behave” from Robert Sopalsky and even in the womb,if the mother has stress(Sopalsky speaks of glucoccoroids),the growth of the fetus and Brian development are affected. Then you can also be a sensitive person,aka sensitive for stimulus,that in combination with early childhood adversity which makes the brain reduce the sensitivity,causing parts of the brain the shut down.less emotional control,impulsivity,going fast in a fight flight response.sounds and awefull a lot like ADHD.I believe a big portion of ADHD kids/people are early trauma event.
Equally having adhd can induce trauma.
You can't tell them apart. If you have ADHD you have experienced trauma.
@@frankbreuer8849
That's nonsense. it's known that ADHD has a genetic component and kids in perfectly happy families can get ADHD and often some siblings have it while others don't.
There is a supposed link between them, but ADHD does not require trauma.
Dude, Andrew thankyou heaps for this, sometimes it's hard to find people who really understand the causes and effects so living with adhd can feel like impossible or your closed off to help but the justification of things that make sense for me everyday is super comforting, would be incredible to properly conversate with you .
This is THE BEST video on this subject I have come across yet. Thank you 🙏🏻
Excellent information!!
Thank you, I'm learning all the time. This is added to my knowledge..🇬🇧👍🏻
Ik you don’t have a lot of subs but your content is amazing. Don’t ever stop, this content and the other stuff you do is enlightening. Thanks for posting !
This is Andrew huberman, he has a big youtube channel.
Excelently explained, it feels just as you describe it (by your references and ModerN literature)
...but I think one word needs correction and it is the “recreational” term for referring to illegal substances that boost dopamine, dough it is the official way they are classified and in some places permitted by that same concept of ‘recreational’ or maybe ‘medical’ pain killer use, let me tell you that in the vast majority of adhd/add cases and some other neurodiversities the use of very potent dopamine boosters, fast, accessible long acting anxiolytics, allucinogenics; in general psychoactives used for one or many of its effects is only to function, for example helping in develop of adulthood neuro plasticity or in my case I always been in the search for estimulants even from outside or inside of my body/mind, like the first 40 some years went undiagnosed but even then, for life, I knew that that! was what my brain needed only to be connected within itself and there is NOT any mindfulness or ‘just buckle up/commit enough’ philosophy that work as well as some dopamine/adrenaline running on synapses... it not always is available as needed in brains like mine, the only way to get it is just from outside, other wise my usual state is best case scenario on day dream (almost all the time, mean ALL), other big part of time is sensory/people/activity overwhelmed therefore seriously foggy 🌫 minded
I suggest for adhd calling them as a necessary use ❤
100 % true - i have it and its 100 % like that.
I see you made the video short for us with that short attention span 😁
Most of this checks out anecdotally but sugar is a no go for my children who have ADHD, it definitely puts them on an emotional roller coaster. Quite the opposite with food actually, we found that our children are more focused and adhd symptoms seem to subside more with sustained blood sugar levels (ie, no processed/refined carbs).
Were they potentially misdiagnosed due to running around wild because of the sugar and nothing to actually do with ADHD.
This is a very common issue now. ADHD sells drugs and there is a lot of evidence that medical facilities are over diagnosing the issue to just sell drugs.
I agree; I don't see how sugar is any good. Adhd kids AND non adhd kids are hoocked on sugar. I always had a tendency for adhd and was addicted to sugar untill lately. It's possible that i might have been addicted to it but in retrospect ans with what we know now; sugar is almost as dangerous as any other drug if not more.
Don't let kids become addicted to manufactured sugar; instead keep it for rare occasions or indulge in natural sugars( fruits).
@@onthearth1 Also, the research here is VERY mixed, despite what Huberman is saying, if you actually go and look up the research yourself. I would go as far to say that what Huberman is saying here is controversial and quite frankly, dangerous.
@@ryta1203 Absolutely! He makes wild and dogmatic takes based on questionable studies( and most importantly theories). Adhd is a wild beast and one shouldn't jump on conclusions because we still don't even know what it is exactly. It's like depression( linked to serotonin), all we know is that adhd is linked to dopamine( same as psychosis and addiction). Most of current experts are in reality controversial at best and only have anecdotal knowledge or knowledge based on dubious theoriesn
lmao I have adhd and I don't like sugar..?
I always asked my why then they don't just give somebody who is suspicious having adhd not just give a adreall and see if he or she is calmer afterwards.
Especially because a lot of psychological test do not dedect adhd although somebody has this disorder.
Is dopamine only responsible for stopping the functioning of some neural circuits in the prefrontal cortex, or does it also increase the activity of other neural circuits in the prefrontal cortex ??
Yup.
imho it should be renamed to something like low dopamine syndom. so it makes it more clear and it sounds like something people would take more serious. with adhd people are just like "oh so you are a hyperactive kid who cant focus"
I heard dopamine is too easy to access nowadays in 2022 and that is the problem. I think and heard that dopamine is ok to go for if you are doing work or effort to get it...example...you get dopamine after finishing a project or if you are doing exercise and burning fuel...then dopamine rush is fine. I like to get my adrenaline rush and dopamine from downhill mountain biking...when you get to the bottom of the mountain with your body intact and the bike is ok....what a feeling but that is because you accomplished something while moving your body so that part can't be so bad.
Hasn't research shown that eating sugar does not increase hyperactivity but just eating pleasurable foods make people excited and happy? It's not the sugar it's the reward or novelty.
No, research is very mixed on sugar and other substances when it comes to inattention and hyperactivity. From personal experience (and everyone I've ever met with ADHD and their children, which is a lot) sugar makes ADHD worse, not better.
@@ryta1203What kind of sugar are we talking about, fruit sugar or processed sugar?
the not becoming hyperactive after consuming high levels of sugar makes more sense now
Imagine the mental anguish this causes a diabetic with ADHD
Cold shower is het answer for dopamine. The dopamine rush is 2,5 above baseline. The same als cocaine. But the major different is that you have that rush for 3 hours ❤
Tell me you haven't done cocaine without telling me
In another video AH says rats forced to achieve had adverse health effects. If I don’t want a cold shower but force myself to do it, what are the long term consequences?
There are two types of I dont want to take the shower. In your head you never want to do it. But after training you know what is possible for yourself. Is not about being strong en broke yourself. It also the same for rats when you drop them blind in cold water. It all about balance. If you not like how your doing now. Give a slowly build up shower a chance to refocus your mind. You didn’t mind during a cold shower what you are to do with al the work what you have to do. So you have a fresh start
@@GlorifiedGremlin what ever you want. Are you the cool guy because you tried something that i never did?
You Mean if i do Cold Shower in Morning my Dopamine will be in the appropriate level for 3 hours in morning if i have adhd ?
"In today's video, I learned I need to be on crack."👍
Seriously, though, what do we do about this?
Huberman Lab is the best podcast around
So much of it is garbage and probably dangerous for the general population. He cites a lot of recent research as if it's fact. Just because something is published, even peer reviewed, does not make it fact. He also rarely talks about the pitfalls of a lot of the research and how so much of it is done poorly.
@@ryta1203 I’m not sure what you mean by “so much of it is garbage” because you can cross reference everything the guy talks about and see long standing science backing up the majority of what he talks about. What’s important to remember is that nothing in science is seen as “fact”, because scientists understand that the things we discover through testing and observation are always through the lens of a human eye & subject to human error or the limits of the tools used at the time. Current science is exciting because of new discoveries, refinements to old theories, and new capabilities with new technology. It makes zero sense to discount new theories and studied phenomena simply because it was recently uncovered. Huberman is very careful to always point out when he is making his own inferences, and when studies are new. The information he shares with the public is certainly diluted for consumption, but it is relevant and helpful to so many with limited knowledge of biology. I fail to see what your criticisms are actually based on.
@@saramulry Just because something is published doesn't mean it's good or impactful or meaningful or true in any way. Most of what he talks about isn't "long standing science". He's not really that good at it frankly. I'm sorry you failed.
So as an Adult eith ADHD what can I do?
Try wellbutrin
@@brianajaxwintor6023 shut up
I see where u are going with this, but i found it hard to follow. To much text, to much drawings and movements, it was hard to keer my focus. So maybe not the best video about ADHD for a person with ADHD :3
i felt the complete opposite. Because the there was movement and the drawings filled up with color it created stimulus AND helped with the mental “lag” for processing a larger amount of information in a short time.
Opiates has been a crutch and a savior for my ADHD. Only good in the short term for me though. In the long term i lose all positive benefits.
I totally have ADHD.
Non Drugs and then you name coffin and nicotine
the lack of proper sync between audio and visuals caused me ADHD
adult adhd lacking Oxytocin related to dopamine do you know much about this
So what you’re saying is I should take cocaine?
Pray 4 me I am getting the giggles again
Watching this drinking my 5th espresso and chain smoking….🥹💖🤌🏻
You say at the very end that kids without ADHD that have sugar tend to go wild and run around like crazy - Does that not then lead parents to think their kids now have ADHD and is driving misdiagnosis?
Why would it do that? A short burst of insanity is not ADHD. ADHD is not just about being hyper or being inattentive either, it's a large collection of symptoms that the general population simply doesn't understand. ADHD is more of an umbrella diagnosis.
just tried lemon drop shots this summer...had like four of them in a row...never felt so happy in my entire 31 years of life.... never felt more connected to people... if thats how people naturally feel...woww..... yes i discovered drinking at 31 lol... unfortunately wasted my twenties sober as a skunk lol
Well 💩 I can't even pay attention to this. I had it before it became a trend.
2:10 until 2:23, I'm in this picture and I dont like it!
This was hard to focus on watching 🥴
I get dopamine from talking about male celebs with other guys
Huberman is a smart guy, but I don't think he has much actual experience around people abusing cocaine.
ADHD people self-medicate. So do other people. A lot of club/rave people like coke. Of course they do! It's coke! But my ADD friends actually avoid cocaine more than the other party people. The coke comedown seems to be much more brutal for ADD people. You feel great for a few minutes, then you feel worse than you did to begin with for a few hours. That's not an effective way to self-medicate. Caffeine, nicotine, and Adderall all have a pretty smooth comedown that doesn't leave you feeling existentially depressed. A lot of ADD people use massive amounts of those stimulants. But I know several other ADD people who party really hard and have access to substances, and only one of them ever goes on coke binges. I know a couple people who have dealt with legit cocaine addiction and they're some of the least-ADD people I know. But molly/ecstasy ... that's a different story. Show me an ADD girl doing MDMA for the first time and I'll show you a girl crying because she's feeling the relief of being able to catch her breath and relax for the first time in her life.
I'm 90% percent I have adhd.
Maybe because the one I got was shit but cocain didn't do anything to me. I tried ritalin and dexamphetamine once, and they both silent my mind completely.
I dont know what to make of that
@@Limpass610 I'm prescribed dextroamphetamine and I legit cried when my brain went silent for the first time and I was able to just DO the thing I needed to do. Like a normal person. No procrastinating, no day dreaming, no anxiety or getting distracted. It changed my life.
First time doing mdma was incredible! That's when I knew I had add... haha 2 of the best nights of my life. Coke is ok not a big deal. But mdma is one of the best drugs for adhd people or maybe also for people with a history of trauma/anxiety/depression!
Yeah, that's how addicts are created.
@@ryta1203 absolutely, a drug is somethong that fills a massive void and gets you hooked or not. There's a certain level of genetic predisposition though.
That being said mdma brings a massive relief to people with a history of trauma/depression/anxiety( which many adhd people do tend to have in hindsight) so yeah Can't blame people. The only difference with mdma is that it will be used in some people therapeutically. I'm not sure if cocaine is used therapeutically yet... adhd meds are stimulants that being said ;) so who knows..
*me with my cup of choccy milk filled with sugar watching the last part* intresting... *gets 10 more spoons of sugar*
.."Useless" indeed.
Becoming a Christian was my answer
Boring. Video
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